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Re: Can I update W10 to W11 with the iso?

From "Bill Bradshaw" <bradshaw@gci.net>
Newsgroups alt.comp.os.windows-11
Subject Re: Can I update W10 to W11 with the iso?
Date 2025-05-27 10:13 -0800
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Paul wrote:
> On Tue, 5/27/2025 1:00 AM, ...winston wrote:
>> Paul wrote:
>>>
>>> When you do a clean install today, the reagentc is typically
>>> disabled. Maybe the file is on C: . Maybe the file isn't on C: at
>>> all. I don't track the issue. I only repair them here, as my own
>>> special kind of hobby.
>>>
>>
>> During a clean install winre.wim first resides on the installation
>> media(Sources\install.wim or install.esd) [1]
>> During setup, it is moved to C:\Windows\System32\Recovery, when
>> WinRe partition is created and recovery enabled it is moved to the
>> WinRE partition(normally Recovery\WindowsRE folder).
>>
>> cf.
>> <https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-hardware/manufacture/desktop/windows-recovery-environment--windows-re--technical-reference?view=windows-11>
>>
>> [1]
>> - Install.esd is normally on MCT created media(USB or ISO) and also
>> on some OEM media.
>> - Install.wim is normally on the ISO(from Win11 ISO download
>> page[don't need Linux - Win7 or Win10 os can download Win11 ISO -
>> multi-edition x64 editions] or Virtual Studio or similar Enterprise
>> or Partner plans providing access to the MSFT servers hosting the
>> different ISO editions).
>>
>
> Sure. Those are the materials used by the user, to manually reset it.
>
> *******
>
> There are some sample commands for checking the version number here.
>
> https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/topic/kb5055671-safe-os-dynamic-update-for-windows-11-version-24h2-and-server-2025-april-8-2025-80c632a5-adf9-4eef-991c-997ec2fa56c4#id0ebbh=dism_command
>
>   reagentc /info
>
>      Windows RE location:
> \\?\GLOBALROOT\device\harddisk0\partition4\Recovery\WindowsRE
>
>   Dism /Get-ImageInfo
> /ImageFile:\\?\GLOBALROOT\device\harddisk0\partition4\Recovery\WindowsRE\winre.wim
> /index:1
>
>      Version : 10.0.22621
>      ServicePack Build : 1
>
>   ( My current patch level on the Daily Driver is 23H2 22631.5335 )
>
>   *******
>   # This script appears to pull an EXE out of the winre.wim and check
>   # the version stamp of the file "winpeshl.exe".
>
>   GetWinReVersion.ps1 PowerShell script
>
>   ...
>   $filePath = "$mountedPath\Windows\System32\winpeshl.exe"
>   $WinREVersion = (Get-Item
> $filePath).VersionInfo.FileVersionRaw.Revision
>
>   # Using TestDisk and not even using the Powershell script gives
>
>   File version  10.0.22621.1             # The property of the
> winpeshl.exe file of the WinRE.wim
>
>   # and matches the determination of the other method.
>
> The one on the W11 installation (Partition 4), has never been patched.
> The one on the W10 installation (Partition 6), is 10.0.19041.5728 ,
> which
> means if I were to boot that W10, the Registry should be set.
>
> When I boot to the W10 and check, yes, the Registry is set. And it is
> set
> to the same value as the determination in the article. This means
> patching
> on the W10 partition is working, and Partition 6 is 1GB in size.
>
> Computer\HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows
>   NT\CurrentVersion WinREVersion   10.0.19041.5728
>
> It looks for my Windows 11, that I might profit from bumping up the
> Recovery Partition size. The W11 is not blocked by this setting, and
> this setting is OK for the preparation of a WinRE.wim .
>
>> fsutil behavior query disablecompression               # Disables
>> compression on all partitions at once.
> DisableCompression = 0  (Compression is ENABLED)           # If you
> change the setting, it requires a reboot to "take".
>
> Off to fix it... :-)
>
>   Paul

From Bill:

Dism /Get-ImageInfo 
/ImageFile:\\?\GLOBALROOT\device\harddisk0\partition3\Recovery\WindowsRE\winre.wim 
/index:1
Deployment Image Servicing and Management tool

Version: 10.0.19041.3636

Details for image : 
\\?\GLOBALROOT\device\harddisk0\partition3\Recovery\WindowsRE\winre.wim

Index : 1
Name : Microsoft Windows Recovery Environment (x64)
Description : Microsoft Windows Recovery Environment (x64)
Size : 2,207,028,650 bytes
WIM Bootable : No
Architecture : x64
Hal : <undefined>
Version : 10.0.19041
ServicePack Build : 1
ServicePack Level : 0
Edition : WindowsPE
Installation : WindowsPE
ProductType : WinNT
ProductSuite :
System Root : WINDOWS
Directories : 3624
Files : 16440
Created : 12/6/2019 - 11:11:48 PM
Modified : 11/9/2024 - 11:14:23 AM

The WIN file came from a very recent backup with Macrium.  I am pretty sure 
I created the recovery partition and not Windows which is 523 Mb with 441 Mb 
used.  So maybe I need to figure out how to increase the recovery partition 
size.

<Bill>

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  Re: Can I update W10 to W11 with the iso? "...winston" <winstonmvp@gmail.com> - 2025-05-24 10:14 -0400
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