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So ...... is this real, or imagined?

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  So ...... is this real, or imagined? David <BD@invalid.email> - 2025-02-16 10:25 +0000
    Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? FromTheRafters <FTR@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-02-16 06:34 -0500
      Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? David <BD@invalid.email> - 2025-02-16 13:45 +0000
        Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? % <pursent100@gmail.com> - 2025-02-16 06:46 -0700
        Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? FromTheRafters <FTR@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-02-16 10:37 -0500
          Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? David <BD@invalid.email> - 2025-02-16 17:26 +0000
            Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? FromTheRafters <FTR@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-02-16 14:55 -0500
              Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? David <BD@invalid.email> - 2025-02-16 20:44 +0000
                Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2025-02-16 20:46 +0000
                  Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? David <BD@invalid.email> - 2025-02-16 20:55 +0000
                    Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2025-02-16 21:07 +0000
                      Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? David <BD@invalid.email> - 2025-02-16 21:16 +0000
                        Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2025-02-16 21:17 +0000
                          Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? David <BD@invalid.email> - 2025-02-16 21:26 +0000
                            Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2025-02-16 22:08 +0000
                              Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? David <BD@invalid.email> - 2025-02-16 23:34 +0000
                                Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2025-02-16 23:38 +0000
                                  Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? David <BD@invalid.email> - 2025-02-16 23:54 +0000
                                    Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2025-02-17 00:21 +0000
                  Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? Gremlin <nobody@haph.org> - 2025-02-17 01:26 +0000
                    Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2025-02-17 01:45 +0000
                Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? Gremlin <nobody@haph.org> - 2025-02-17 01:26 +0000
                  Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2025-02-17 01:45 +0000
                    Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? Gremlin <nobody@haph.org> - 2025-02-17 04:41 +0000
                      Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2025-02-17 05:22 +0000
                        Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? Gremlin <nobody@haph.org> - 2025-02-22 05:27 +0000
                          Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2025-02-22 05:53 +0000
    Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2025-02-16 15:33 +0000
      Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? David <BD@invalid.email> - 2025-02-16 17:17 +0000
        Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2025-02-16 18:00 +0000
          Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? David <BD@invalid.email> - 2025-02-16 18:17 +0000
            Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2025-02-16 18:22 +0000
              Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? David <BD@invalid.email> - 2025-02-16 18:59 +0000
                Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2025-02-16 19:19 +0000
                  Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? David <BD@invalid.email> - 2025-02-16 19:36 +0000
                    Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2025-02-16 19:52 +0000
                      Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? David <BD@invalid.email> - 2025-02-16 20:49 +0000
                        Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2025-02-16 20:56 +0000
                          Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? David <BD@invalid.email> - 2025-02-16 21:20 +0000
                            Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2025-02-16 21:23 +0000
                              Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? David <BD@invalid.email> - 2025-02-16 23:45 +0000
                                Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2025-02-16 23:52 +0000
                                  Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? David <BD@invalid.email> - 2025-02-16 23:58 +0000
                                    Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2025-02-17 00:18 +0000
                                      Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? David <David.is@home.today> - 2025-02-26 12:34 +0000
                                        Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2025-02-26 14:11 +0000
                                          Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? David <David.is@home.today> - 2025-02-26 14:21 +0000
                                            Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? % <pursent100@gmail.com> - 2025-02-26 07:37 -0700
                                              Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2025-02-26 16:47 +0000
                                            Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2025-02-26 16:11 +0000
                                              Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? David <David.is@home.today> - 2025-02-26 16:44 +0000
                                                Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2025-02-26 16:51 +0000
                                  Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? John <Man@the.keyboard> - 2025-02-17 00:26 +0000
                                    Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? David <David.is@home.today> - 2025-03-08 08:48 +0000
              Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? Gremlin <nobody@haph.org> - 2025-02-17 01:26 +0000
                Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2025-02-17 01:41 +0000
                  Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? Gremlin <nobody@haph.org> - 2025-02-17 04:41 +0000
                    Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2025-02-17 05:25 +0000
                    Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2025-02-17 05:42 +0000
                      Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? Gremlin <nobody@haph.org> - 2025-02-22 05:27 +0000
                        Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2025-02-22 05:43 +0000
        Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? FromTheRafters <FTR@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-02-16 14:57 -0500
          Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? David <BD@invalid.email> - 2025-02-16 20:51 +0000
        Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? David <BD@invalid.email> - 2025-02-16 21:13 +0000
          Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2025-02-16 21:19 +0000
            Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? David <BD@invalid.email> - 2025-02-16 23:25 +0000
              Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2025-02-16 23:38 +0000
          Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? Kelly Phillips <KFile@podcasts.org> - 2025-02-16 16:19 -0600
            Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? David <BD@invalid.email> - 2025-02-16 23:49 +0000
              Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? Kelly Phillips <KFile@podcasts.org> - 2025-02-17 15:58 -0600
                Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? David <BD@invalid.email> - 2025-02-17 22:27 +0000
                  Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid> - 2025-02-17 15:08 -0800
                    Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? T i m <eternal@spaced.me.uk> - 2025-02-19 23:10 +0000
                      Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? David <David@home.today> - 2025-02-19 23:29 +0000
                        Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? Gremlin <nobody@haph.org> - 2025-02-22 05:27 +0000
                          Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2025-02-22 05:50 +0000
                          Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? David <David@home.today> - 2025-02-22 22:36 +0000
                            Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? % <pursent100@gmail.com> - 2025-02-22 15:42 -0700
                            Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2025-02-22 22:42 +0000
                              Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? David <David@home.today> - 2025-02-23 00:03 +0000
                                Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2025-02-23 02:22 +0000
                                  Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? David <David.is@home.today> - 2025-03-08 08:52 +0000
                                    Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? Snit <Brock.McNuggets@gmail.com> - 2025-03-08 14:16 +0000
                                      Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? David <David.is@home.today> - 2025-03-08 22:33 +0000
                                        Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2025-03-08 23:19 +0000
                      Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? Gremlin <nobody@haph.org> - 2025-02-22 05:27 +0000
                        Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2025-02-22 05:39 +0000
                  Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2025-02-17 23:30 +0000
                    Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? % <pursent100@gmail.com> - 2025-02-17 17:11 -0700
                      Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2025-02-18 00:18 +0000
                        Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? % <pursent100@gmail.com> - 2025-02-17 17:25 -0700
                          Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2025-02-18 00:58 +0000
                            Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? % <pursent100@gmail.com> - 2025-02-17 18:51 -0700
                              Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2025-02-18 01:55 +0000
                                Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? % <pursent100@gmail.com> - 2025-02-17 19:01 -0700
                                  Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2025-02-18 02:41 +0000
                  Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? Gremlin <nobody@haph.org> - 2025-02-22 05:27 +0000
                    Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2025-02-22 05:38 +0000
                    Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? David <David@home.today> - 2025-02-22 22:42 +0000
                      Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2025-02-22 23:08 +0000
                Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? Gremlin <nobody@haph.org> - 2025-02-22 05:27 +0000
                  Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2025-02-22 05:46 +0000
        Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? Gremlin <nobody@haph.org> - 2025-02-17 01:26 +0000
          Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2025-02-17 01:43 +0000
          Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> - 2025-02-17 15:07 +0000
            Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? Gremlin <nobody@haph.org> - 2025-02-22 05:27 +0000
    Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? Gremlin <nobody@haph.org> - 2025-02-17 01:26 +0000
      Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2025-02-17 01:45 +0000
        Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? Gremlin <nobody@haph.org> - 2025-02-17 04:41 +0000
          Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2025-02-17 05:21 +0000
            Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? Gremlin <nobody@haph.org> - 2025-02-22 05:27 +0000
              Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2025-02-22 05:54 +0000
      Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? David <David.is@home.today> - 2025-02-26 08:45 +0000
        Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2025-02-26 10:28 +0100
          Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? T i m <eternal@spaced.me.uk> - 2025-03-04 10:11 +0000
        Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? FromTheRafters <FTR@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-02-26 04:52 -0500
          Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? David <David.is@home.today> - 2025-02-26 12:46 +0000
            Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? FromTheRafters <FTR@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-02-26 08:04 -0500
              Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? David <David.is@home.today> - 2025-02-26 13:57 +0000
                Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? David <David.is@home.today> - 2025-02-26 14:01 +0000
                Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? FromTheRafters <FTR@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-02-26 09:47 -0500
                  Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? FromTheRafters <FTR@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-02-26 09:49 -0500
                    Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? David <David.is@home.today> - 2025-02-26 15:24 +0000
                  Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? David <David.is@home.today> - 2025-02-26 15:05 +0000
        Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2025-02-26 16:08 +0000
          Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? David <David.is@home.today> - 2025-02-26 16:42 +0000
            Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2025-02-26 16:51 +0000
              Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? David <David.is@home.today> - 2025-02-26 16:56 +0000
                Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2025-02-26 17:11 +0000
                  Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? David <David.is@home.today> - 2025-02-26 17:30 +0000
                    Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2025-02-26 19:36 +0000
                      Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? David <David.is@home.today> - 2025-02-26 19:57 +0000
    Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2025-02-26 08:35 +0100
      Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? David <David.is@home.today> - 2025-02-26 08:36 +0000
        Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2025-02-26 11:41 +0100
          Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? David <David.is@home.today> - 2025-02-26 14:02 +0000
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#180433

FromBrock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com>
Date2025-02-23 02:22 +0000
Message-ID<67ba865b$12$2754$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>
In reply to#180431
On Feb 22, 2025 at 5:03:30 PM MST, "David" wrote
<m1v6uiFkdllU2@mid.individual.net>:

> On 22/02/2025 22:42, Brock McNuggets wrote:
> [....]
>> Gremlin is, as he does, lying his ass off. Look at the recent coding Apd is
>> doing... with Carroll. THEY are showing skills. I see that even in quotes.
>> Gremlin has shown NO code I have seen on that. Nor on other challenges. He
>> posts code that might or might not even be his. I do not care.
> 
> You need to search out a poster called Pooh (the cat) - try the Freeware
> Usenet group. He might not admit, though, that Dustin Cook ran rings
> around him a few years ago.

I am not saying he has no skills... I just do not care what his skills are. I
do appreciate when people SHOW skills.

And clearly he makes a LOT of things up.
> 
> A start!
> https://groups.google.com/g/alt.comp.freeware/c/eMHVPa5AqWo/m/0Q65fT6oBQAJ

Looking briefly I do not see Gremlin's posts.

I do not pay much attention to what people say of others. I know many are
pulled in by arrogance and such... Trump has a of that. He is an authoritarian
fascist oligarch and a puppet but he has a cult following in the US.

-- 
Specialist in unnecessary details and overcomplicated solutions.

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#180609

FromDavid <David.is@home.today>
Date2025-03-08 08:52 +0000
Message-ID<m32epjFu6scU2@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#180433
On 23/02/2025 02:22, Brock McNuggets wrote:
[....]
> I do not pay much attention to what people say of others. I know many are
> pulled in by arrogance and such... Trump has a of that. He is an authoritarian
> fascist oligarch and a puppet but he has a cult following in the US.

Over the last couple of weeks he's shown the whole world that he is a 
bully-boy. :-(

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#180610

FromSnit <Brock.McNuggets@gmail.com>
Date2025-03-08 14:16 +0000
Message-ID<67cc5147$0$21$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>
In reply to#180609
David <David.is@home.today> wrote:
> On 23/02/2025 02:22, Brock McNuggets wrote:
> [....]
>> I do not pay much attention to what people say of others. I know many are
>> pulled in by arrogance and such... Trump has a of that. He is an authoritarian
>> fascist oligarch and a puppet but he has a cult following in the US.
> 
> Over the last couple of weeks he's shown the whole world that he is a 
> bully-boy. :-(
> 

He’s shown us for years — but he’s getting worse. 

It is good to see some of his past supporters start to see the light. Just
hope it’s not too late. You’re not in the US. The situation here is
appalling. Thousands being fired and then some begged to be rehired, lies
about how that promotes “efficiency” when the firings are tied to
investigations into Musk and other leaches on our economy, reduced safety
standards and a crumbling stock market. 

It really does seem Trump has been bought by Putin and Musk. 

-- 
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They
cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel
somehow superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

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#180612

FromDavid <David.is@home.today>
Date2025-03-08 22:33 +0000
Message-ID<m33uuiF6ogsU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#180610
On 08/03/2025 14:16, Snit wrote:
> David <David.is@home.today> wrote:
>> On 23/02/2025 02:22, Brock McNuggets wrote:
>> [....]
>>> I do not pay much attention to what people say of others. I know many are
>>> pulled in by arrogance and such... Trump has a of that. He is an authoritarian
>>> fascist oligarch and a puppet but he has a cult following in the US.
>>
>> Over the last couple of weeks he's shown the whole world that he is a
>> bully-boy. :-(
>>
> 
> He’s shown us for years — but he’s getting worse.
> 
> It is good to see some of his past supporters start to see the light. Just
> hope it’s not too late. You’re not in the US. The situation here is
> appalling. Thousands being fired and then some begged to be rehired, lies
> about how that promotes “efficiency” when the firings are tied to
> investigations into Musk and other leaches on our economy, reduced safety
> standards and a crumbling stock market.
> 
> It really does seem Trump has been bought by Putin and Musk.

Might it end up with civil war in the USA?

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#180613

FromBrock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com>
Date2025-03-08 23:19 +0000
Message-ID<67ccd074$9$22$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>
In reply to#180612
On Mar 8, 2025 at 3:33:54 PM MST, "David" wrote
<m33uuiF6ogsU1@mid.individual.net>:

> On 08/03/2025 14:16, Snit wrote:
>> David <David.is@home.today> wrote:
>>> On 23/02/2025 02:22, Brock McNuggets wrote:
>>> [....]
>>>> I do not pay much attention to what people say of others. I know many are
>>>> pulled in by arrogance and such... Trump has a of that. He is an authoritarian
>>>> fascist oligarch and a puppet but he has a cult following in the US.
>>> 
>>> Over the last couple of weeks he's shown the whole world that he is a
>>> bully-boy. :-(
>>> 
>> 
>> He’s shown us for years — but he’s getting worse.
>> 
>> It is good to see some of his past supporters start to see the light. Just
>> hope it’s not too late. You’re not in the US. The situation here is
>> appalling. Thousands being fired and then some begged to be rehired, lies
>> about how that promotes “efficiency” when the firings are tied to
>> investigations into Musk and other leaches on our economy, reduced safety
>> standards and a crumbling stock market.
>> 
>> It really does seem Trump has been bought by Putin and Musk.
> 
> Might it end up with civil war in the USA?

I think that is a chance, but more likely is that Russia and China will gain
power and push wars elsewhere that will grow to include more and more of the
world. This could lead to WWW III, which with modern weapons would be VERY
bad.

At the very least it is almost surely going to lead to world wide economic and
political instability. The US will lose power and respect on the world stage.

-- 
Specialist in unnecessary details and overcomplicated solutions.

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#180403

FromGremlin <nobody@haph.org>
Date2025-02-22 05:27 +0000
Message-ID<XnsB28E499E99DDHT1@cF04o3ON7k2lx05.lLC.9r5>
In reply to#180371
T i m <eternal@spaced.me.uk> news:vp5od6$2fooh$2@dont-email.me Wed, 19 Feb 
2025 23:10:29 GMT in alt.computer.workshop, wrote:

> On 17/02/2025 23:08, Mike Easter wrote:
>> BDB wrote:
>>> Malware *CAN* reside in places other than the main hard drive. Here 
>>> are a few examples:
>> 
>> In your world, there's a lot more 'magic' in your digital devices than 
>> need be.
>> 
>> If your 'perception' is that what you 'see' is smoke and mirrors, it 
>> must be pretty scary and/or confusing.
>> 
> 
> He is probably 'shell shocked' from when someone dropped a bowl behind 
> him when he was peeling potatoes in the RN and why he is petrified of 
> everything.

Tim,

You really shouldn't try to join in with the intention of mocking or 
otherwise belittling him as you're trying to do. Last time I checked, you 
couldn't figure out a text based configuration file on your own. And what 
little scripting was needed, wasn't done by you. You needed your hand held 
like a small child to program your own system. Yet you claimed you could 
read a data sheet for a specific component, understand everything on the 
datasheet, but 'coding' was beyond you. My total bullshit meter pegged the 
fuck out.

You could have done the work yourself, but, you choose not to. You chose 
to blame it on some learning issue. The issue is your fucking lazy and 
refuse to do it yourself. You *could* do it, you just don't want too. I'm 
surprised Apd has been willing to hold your hand for as long as he has. 
Nice touch btw trying to recruit him, even offering hardware so he could 
do it for you more efficiently as well as custom code things your local 
friends requested; or online forum for it. I don't specifically remember 
if the additional people seeking help were people you knew in irl or 
'forum friends'. I do remember Apd telling you he wasn't interested in 
doing that, and, I remember you offering to send him a rig so he could do 
it for you without tying up his hardware.

I found your comments concerning my ability to provide assistance very 
amusing. Apd and FTR (FTR's comment was a fucking riot, and it was clear 
that you didn't get it) both told you I'm also more than capable of 
assisting you. Like Snit though, you try the 'I'm just going by what 
you've shown'. As with Snit, you cherry pick the responses you like and 
openly disagree with them concerning the ones you don't.
You both accept what they tell you, until specifically they mention me. 
Then, as if by magic, there word has less value. It's funny you think I'm 
the only one here who's noticed this about you, Tim.

FWIW, I still think your a nutless coward. I consider you to be the same 
as Snit. 

> "If you finish that lot by the end of your shift we will give you a ride 
> in an aeroplane".

As I said, those who live in glass houses probably shouldn't be throwing 
stones. I hope this sentence is dumbed down enough for you to comprehend, 
as I'm sure you and Snit will have trouble parsing my long reply; Mostly 
due to you both having the attention span of a fucking squirrel.


-- 
I don't need no Dr. All I need...is my lawyer.
 

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#180407

FromBrock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com>
Date2025-02-22 05:39 +0000
Message-ID<67b962fa$21$2786$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>
In reply to#180403
On Feb 21, 2025 at 10:27:08 PM MST, "Gremlin" wrote
<XnsB28E499E99DDHT1@cF04o3ON7k2lx05.lLC.9r5>:

> T i m <eternal@spaced.me.uk> news:vp5od6$2fooh$2@dont-email.me Wed, 19 Feb
> 2025 23:10:29 GMT in alt.computer.workshop, wrote:
> 
>> On 17/02/2025 23:08, Mike Easter wrote:
>>> BDB wrote:
>>>> Malware *CAN* reside in places other than the main hard drive. Here
>>>> are a few examples:
>>> 
>>> In your world, there's a lot more 'magic' in your digital devices than
>>> need be.
>>> 
>>> If your 'perception' is that what you 'see' is smoke and mirrors, it
>>> must be pretty scary and/or confusing.
>>> 
>> 
>> He is probably 'shell shocked' from when someone dropped a bowl behind
>> him when he was peeling potatoes in the RN and why he is petrified of
>> everything.
> 
> Tim,
> 
> You really shouldn't try to join in with the intention of mocking or
> otherwise belittling him as you're trying to do. Last time I checked, you
> couldn't figure out a text based configuration file on your own. And what
> little scripting was needed, wasn't done by you. You needed your hand held
> like a small child to program your own system. Yet you claimed you could
> read a data sheet for a specific component, understand everything on the
> datasheet, but 'coding' was beyond you. My total bullshit meter pegged the
> fuck out.
> 
> You could have done the work yourself, but, you choose not to. You chose
> to blame it on some learning issue. The issue is your fucking lazy and
> refuse to do it yourself. You *could* do it, you just don't want too. I'm
> surprised Apd has been willing to hold your hand for as long as he has.
> Nice touch btw trying to recruit him, even offering hardware so he could
> do it for you more efficiently as well as custom code things your local
> friends requested; or online forum for it. I don't specifically remember
> if the additional people seeking help were people you knew in irl or
> 'forum friends'. I do remember Apd telling you he wasn't interested in
> doing that, and, I remember you offering to send him a rig so he could do
> it for you without tying up his hardware.
> 
> I found your comments concerning my ability to provide assistance very
> amusing. Apd and FTR (FTR's comment was a fucking riot, and it was clear
> that you didn't get it) both told you I'm also more than capable of
> assisting you. Like Snit though, you try the 'I'm just going by what
> you've shown'. As with Snit, you cherry pick the responses you like and
> openly disagree with them concerning the ones you don't.
> You both accept what they tell you, until specifically they mention me.
> Then, as if by magic, there word has less value. It's funny you think I'm
> the only one here who's noticed this about you, Tim.
> 
> FWIW, I still think your a nutless coward. I consider you to be the same
> as Snit.
> 
>> "If you finish that lot by the end of your shift we will give you a ride
>> in an aeroplane".
> 
> As I said, those who live in glass houses probably shouldn't be throwing
> stones. I hope this sentence is dumbed down enough for you to comprehend,
> as I'm sure you and Snit will have trouble parsing my long reply; Mostly
> due to you both having the attention span of a fucking squirrel.

Your message is a masterclass in projection and insecurity. You start by
admonishing Tim for mocking someone, only to launch into an unhinged tirade
filled with condescension, name-calling, and unwarranted hostility. It’s
almost impressive how quickly you abandon your own advice.

You clearly fancy yourself an expert, but your tone screams more about your
fragile ego than your actual knowledge. You claim Tim is lazy and
blame-shifting, yet the only thing evident here is your desperate need to feel
superior. You toss around phrases like “hand-holding” and “nutless coward” as
if belittling others will elevate you. Spoiler: it doesn’t.

Your disdain for those who don’t immediately bow to your supposed expertise is
palpable. You’re upset that Tim, and apparently I, don’t view you as the
almighty oracle you imagine yourself to be. Instead of providing helpful
information or guiding others constructively, you resort to immature insults
and baseless assumptions about their capabilities.

And speaking of assumptions, your claim that Tim’s learning issues are just an
excuse is not only ignorant but downright cruel. Not everyone learns the same
way, and the fact that you interpret his struggles as laziness says more about
your lack of empathy than his work ethic. Not everyone’s journey to
understanding tech is a straight line, and your impatience with that reality
only highlights your own shortcomings as a teacher—or, frankly, as a decent
human being.

You also accuse Tim and I of cherry-picking responses and disregarding your
input when others vouch for you. Maybe instead of blaming them, you should ask
yourself why people might hesitate to take your advice. Could it be because
your advice often comes wrapped in a thick layer of arrogance and scorn? Or
perhaps it’s because your credibility is undermined by your behavior and the
need to bash others to feel important.

If you truly want respect, try earning it through genuine contributions,
patience, and a bit of humility. Because right now, the only thing your
message accomplishes is showing everyone just how deeply your insecurities
run.

-- 
Specialist in unnecessary details and overcomplicated solutions.

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#180306

FromBrock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com>
Date2025-02-17 23:30 +0000
Message-ID<67b3c698$0$2759$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>
In reply to#180302
On Feb 17, 2025 at 3:27:33 PM MST, "David" wrote
<m1hrelFjft2U2@mid.individual.net>:

> On 17/02/2025 21:58, Kelly Phillips wrote:
>> On Sun, 16 Feb 2025 23:49:39 +0000, David <BD@invalid.email> wrote:
>> 
>>> On 16/02/2025 22:19, Kelly Phillips wrote:
>>>> On Sun, 16 Feb 2025 21:13:27 +0000, David <BD@invalid.email> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> On 16/02/2025 19:44, Mike Easter wrote:
>>>>>> AND...
>>>>> 
>>>>>> ... your most frequently used anti-malware tactic is to 'regularly'
>>>>>> erase your hdd and reinstall from scratch.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I'm aware that you don't agree with my methodology - but it works! :-D
>>>> 
>>>> But does it REALLY work? Remember when you used to be extremely fearful
>>>> that wiping your drive didn't actually wipe every nook and cranny, and
>>>> that your malware could possibly "lurk" or "hide" (your words) in some
>>>> dark area of the drive, only to spring back to life at some time in the
>>>> future?
>>> 
>>> I did *NOT* specify *DRIVE* in that regard.
>> 
>> I don't think you have any idea what you've said. It's all good, though.
>> 
>>> I was suggesting that malware can reside elsewhere within the physical
>>> machine.
>> 
>> Yes, I saw that, as well.
> 
> Malware *CAN* reside in places other than the main hard drive. Here are
> a few examples:
> 
> 1. **USB Drives and External Storage**: Malware can infect USB drives,
> external hard drives, and SD cards. When these devices are plugged into
> a computer, the malware can execute or copy itself onto the system.
> 
> 2. **Firmware**: Some sophisticated malware targets the firmware of
> devices like the BIOS or UEFI (Unified Extensible Firmware Interface).
> It can persist through reboots and even OS reinstalls, making it harder
> to remove.
> 
> 3. **Network Devices**: Certain malware can be embedded in devices like
> routers, network-attached storage (NAS) devices, or printers. These
> devices may have weak security and can serve as entry points for the
> malware to infect connected computers.
> 
> 4. **RAM**: Some malware operates purely in the system's memory (RAM),
> leaving no trace on the hard drive. This type of malware is often more
> challenging to detect, as it can vanish after a reboot.
> 
> 5. **Cloud Storage or Network Shares**: Malware can infect cloud storage
> services or network shares. Once a device accesses these locations, it
> may download or spread the infection to other systems.
> 
> 6. **Bootable Media**: In some cases, malware can reside on bootable
> media, such as CDs, DVDs, or even within boot sector code, and can
> execute before the operating system even loads.
> 
> These types of malware often require different approaches to detection
> and removal since traditional antivirus tools mainly focus on scanning
> hard drives.

Oh, you think malware only hides in boring old files and shady downloads? Oh
no, my friend. If malware were truly devious, it would lurk in places no one
would ever suspect…

1. Inside That One Sock That Always Disappears in the Laundry

You thought it was eaten by the washing machine? Nope. That sock was recruited
by a cybercriminal to store malicious code in a fabric-based botnet. Every
missing sock? Part of the same dark web conspiracy.

2. The Unread Terms & Conditions of Every Website Ever

Malware hides in the fine print, knowing full well that no one is actually
reading it. Clause 47.8b clearly states: “By clicking ‘I agree,’ you grant
this malware permission to reorganize your desktop icons into an unholy mess.”

3. The Space Between Your Keyboard Keys

You ever drop a crumb between your keyboard keys and never find it again?
Yeah. It didn’t just fall—it was taken by malware that lives down there. At
night, it whispers “click here for free Bitcoin.”

4. That USB Drive You Found in a Parking Lot

“Oh cool, free USB drive!” WRONG. That thing is stuffed with malware so
malicious, even your toaster would get infected if you plugged it in. In fact,
the USB drive itself is sentient—and it wants to be plugged in.

5. The Extra 0.01% on Every Battery Percentage

Ever notice your phone stays at 100% for a suspiciously long time? Yeah,
that’s malware hoarding that last sliver of battery life for itself, using it
to mine crypto and play Minesweeper when you’re not looking.

6. In Your Grandma’s Chain Emails

If your grandma ever forwarded you an email that said “SEND THIS TO 10 PEOPLE
OR YOUR DOG WILL LEARN TO TYPE”—congratulations! That email contained ancient
malware so old, it runs on MS-DOS but still manages to steal your passwords.

7. The Digital Equivalent of ‘Under the Couch’

Just like lost TV remotes and potato chips, malware hides in the digital void
of your hard drive, chilling in unused sectors and occasionally emerging to
whisper “your warranty is expired.”

8. Your Smart Fridge’s Ice Dispenser

“Why does the ice taste funny?” Because your smart fridge has been hacked and
is now sending encrypted spam emails through its crushed ice function. Also,
it keeps ordering way too much mayonnaise for no reason.

9. Inside Your Printer’s Ink Cartridges

Your printer refuses to work even though there’s plenty of ink left? That’s
malware, siphoning off microscopic droplets of ink to fund its underground
operation. Every paper jam is just it trying to assert dominance.

10. The “Close” Button on Fake Ads

You think you’re escaping, but nope—that fake “X” button is actually a portal
to malware town. Clicking it installs a toolbar that won’t go away and starts
calling you by your first name, which is unsettling.

11. The Unused ‘Caps Lock’ Key

No one ever presses it on purpose. So malware just lives there, rent-free,
waiting for the moment you accidentally hit it so it can shout: BUY A VPN OR
ELSE in all caps.

12. Your Wi-Fi Router’s Mysterious Extra Guest Network

Why does your Wi-Fi have an extra network called “ClickHereForFreeInternet”?
Because malware is now running its own side business selling stolen bandwidth
to confused neighbors and pigeons with internet access.

13. In Your Own Reflection on Your Screen

That’s not you. That’s malware impersonating you, making you question reality
while it quietly drains your PayPal account and makes all your emails end with
“Sent from my iPhone” even when you don’t have one.

Moral of the story? Malware is everywhere. Even in places you wouldn’t
suspect. Stay safe out there, and if your fridge starts demanding ransom
payments… just unplug it.


-- 
Specialist in unnecessary details and overcomplicated solutions.

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#180307

From% <pursent100@gmail.com>
Date2025-02-17 17:11 -0700
Message-ID<lqOcnWQGh7CqTS76nZ2dnZfqn_idnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#180306
Brock McNuggets wrote:
> On Feb 17, 2025 at 3:27:33 PM MST, "David" wrote
> <m1hrelFjft2U2@mid.individual.net>:
> 
>> On 17/02/2025 21:58, Kelly Phillips wrote:
>>> On Sun, 16 Feb 2025 23:49:39 +0000, David <BD@invalid.email> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 16/02/2025 22:19, Kelly Phillips wrote:
>>>>> On Sun, 16 Feb 2025 21:13:27 +0000, David <BD@invalid.email> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 16/02/2025 19:44, Mike Easter wrote:
>>>>>>> AND...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ... your most frequently used anti-malware tactic is to 'regularly'
>>>>>>> erase your hdd and reinstall from scratch.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm aware that you don't agree with my methodology - but it works! :-D
>>>>>
>>>>> But does it REALLY work? Remember when you used to be extremely fearful
>>>>> that wiping your drive didn't actually wipe every nook and cranny, and
>>>>> that your malware could possibly "lurk" or "hide" (your words) in some
>>>>> dark area of the drive, only to spring back to life at some time in the
>>>>> future?
>>>>
>>>> I did *NOT* specify *DRIVE* in that regard.
>>>
>>> I don't think you have any idea what you've said. It's all good, though.
>>>
>>>> I was suggesting that malware can reside elsewhere within the physical
>>>> machine.
>>>
>>> Yes, I saw that, as well.
>>
>> Malware *CAN* reside in places other than the main hard drive. Here are
>> a few examples:
>>
>> 1. **USB Drives and External Storage**: Malware can infect USB drives,
>> external hard drives, and SD cards. When these devices are plugged into
>> a computer, the malware can execute or copy itself onto the system.
>>
>> 2. **Firmware**: Some sophisticated malware targets the firmware of
>> devices like the BIOS or UEFI (Unified Extensible Firmware Interface).
>> It can persist through reboots and even OS reinstalls, making it harder
>> to remove.
>>
>> 3. **Network Devices**: Certain malware can be embedded in devices like
>> routers, network-attached storage (NAS) devices, or printers. These
>> devices may have weak security and can serve as entry points for the
>> malware to infect connected computers.
>>
>> 4. **RAM**: Some malware operates purely in the system's memory (RAM),
>> leaving no trace on the hard drive. This type of malware is often more
>> challenging to detect, as it can vanish after a reboot.
>>
>> 5. **Cloud Storage or Network Shares**: Malware can infect cloud storage
>> services or network shares. Once a device accesses these locations, it
>> may download or spread the infection to other systems.
>>
>> 6. **Bootable Media**: In some cases, malware can reside on bootable
>> media, such as CDs, DVDs, or even within boot sector code, and can
>> execute before the operating system even loads.
>>
>> These types of malware often require different approaches to detection
>> and removal since traditional antivirus tools mainly focus on scanning
>> hard drives.
> 
> Oh, you think malware only hides in boring old files and shady downloads? Oh
> no, my friend. If malware were truly devious, it would lurk in places no one
> would ever suspect…
> 
> 1. Inside That One Sock That Always Disappears in the Laundry
> 
> You thought it was eaten by the washing machine? Nope. That sock was recruited
> by a cybercriminal to store malicious code in a fabric-based botnet. Every
> missing sock? Part of the same dark web conspiracy.
> 
> 2. The Unread Terms & Conditions of Every Website Ever
> 
> Malware hides in the fine print, knowing full well that no one is actually
> reading it. Clause 47.8b clearly states: “By clicking ‘I agree,’ you grant
> this malware permission to reorganize your desktop icons into an unholy mess.”
> 
> 3. The Space Between Your Keyboard Keys
> 
> You ever drop a crumb between your keyboard keys and never find it again?
> Yeah. It didn’t just fall—it was taken by malware that lives down there. At
> night, it whispers “click here for free Bitcoin.”
> 
> 4. That USB Drive You Found in a Parking Lot
> 
> “Oh cool, free USB drive!” WRONG. That thing is stuffed with malware so
> malicious, even your toaster would get infected if you plugged it in. In fact,
> the USB drive itself is sentient—and it wants to be plugged in.
> 
> 5. The Extra 0.01% on Every Battery Percentage
> 
> Ever notice your phone stays at 100% for a suspiciously long time? Yeah,
> that’s malware hoarding that last sliver of battery life for itself, using it
> to mine crypto and play Minesweeper when you’re not looking.
> 
> 6. In Your Grandma’s Chain Emails
> 
> If your grandma ever forwarded you an email that said “SEND THIS TO 10 PEOPLE
> OR YOUR DOG WILL LEARN TO TYPE”—congratulations! That email contained ancient
> malware so old, it runs on MS-DOS but still manages to steal your passwords.
> 
> 7. The Digital Equivalent of ‘Under the Couch’
> 
> Just like lost TV remotes and potato chips, malware hides in the digital void
> of your hard drive, chilling in unused sectors and occasionally emerging to
> whisper “your warranty is expired.”
> 
> 8. Your Smart Fridge’s Ice Dispenser
> 
> “Why does the ice taste funny?” Because your smart fridge has been hacked and
> is now sending encrypted spam emails through its crushed ice function. Also,
> it keeps ordering way too much mayonnaise for no reason.
> 
> 9. Inside Your Printer’s Ink Cartridges
> 
> Your printer refuses to work even though there’s plenty of ink left? That’s
> malware, siphoning off microscopic droplets of ink to fund its underground
> operation. Every paper jam is just it trying to assert dominance.
> 
> 10. The “Close” Button on Fake Ads
> 
> You think you’re escaping, but nope—that fake “X” button is actually a portal
> to malware town. Clicking it installs a toolbar that won’t go away and starts
> calling you by your first name, which is unsettling.
> 
> 11. The Unused ‘Caps Lock’ Key
> 
> No one ever presses it on purpose. So malware just lives there, rent-free,
> waiting for the moment you accidentally hit it so it can shout: BUY A VPN OR
> ELSE in all caps.
> 
> 12. Your Wi-Fi Router’s Mysterious Extra Guest Network
> 
> Why does your Wi-Fi have an extra network called “ClickHereForFreeInternet”?
> Because malware is now running its own side business selling stolen bandwidth
> to confused neighbors and pigeons with internet access.
> 
> 13. In Your Own Reflection on Your Screen
> 
> That’s not you. That’s malware impersonating you, making you question reality
> while it quietly drains your PayPal account and makes all your emails end with
> “Sent from my iPhone” even when you don’t have one.
> 
> Moral of the story? Malware is everywhere. Even in places you wouldn’t
> suspect. Stay safe out there, and if your fridge starts demanding ransom
> payments… just unplug it.
> 
> 
that's the box on the porch , right

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#180309

FromBrock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com>
Date2025-02-18 00:18 +0000
Message-ID<67b3d1ec$1$16$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>
In reply to#180307
On Feb 17, 2025 at 5:11:35 PM MST, "%" wrote
<lqOcnWQGh7CqTS76nZ2dnZfqn_idnZ2d@giganews.com>:

> Brock McNuggets wrote:
>> On Feb 17, 2025 at 3:27:33 PM MST, "David" wrote
>> <m1hrelFjft2U2@mid.individual.net>:
>> 
>>> On 17/02/2025 21:58, Kelly Phillips wrote:
>>>> On Sun, 16 Feb 2025 23:49:39 +0000, David <BD@invalid.email> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> On 16/02/2025 22:19, Kelly Phillips wrote:
>>>>>> On Sun, 16 Feb 2025 21:13:27 +0000, David <BD@invalid.email> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 16/02/2025 19:44, Mike Easter wrote:
>>>>>>>> AND...
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> ... your most frequently used anti-malware tactic is to 'regularly'
>>>>>>>> erase your hdd and reinstall from scratch.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I'm aware that you don't agree with my methodology - but it works! :-D
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> But does it REALLY work? Remember when you used to be extremely fearful
>>>>>> that wiping your drive didn't actually wipe every nook and cranny, and
>>>>>> that your malware could possibly "lurk" or "hide" (your words) in some
>>>>>> dark area of the drive, only to spring back to life at some time in the
>>>>>> future?
>>>>> 
>>>>> I did *NOT* specify *DRIVE* in that regard.
>>>> 
>>>> I don't think you have any idea what you've said. It's all good, though.
>>>> 
>>>>> I was suggesting that malware can reside elsewhere within the physical
>>>>> machine.
>>>> 
>>>> Yes, I saw that, as well.
>>> 
>>> Malware *CAN* reside in places other than the main hard drive. Here are
>>> a few examples:
>>> 
>>> 1. **USB Drives and External Storage**: Malware can infect USB drives,
>>> external hard drives, and SD cards. When these devices are plugged into
>>> a computer, the malware can execute or copy itself onto the system.
>>> 
>>> 2. **Firmware**: Some sophisticated malware targets the firmware of
>>> devices like the BIOS or UEFI (Unified Extensible Firmware Interface).
>>> It can persist through reboots and even OS reinstalls, making it harder
>>> to remove.
>>> 
>>> 3. **Network Devices**: Certain malware can be embedded in devices like
>>> routers, network-attached storage (NAS) devices, or printers. These
>>> devices may have weak security and can serve as entry points for the
>>> malware to infect connected computers.
>>> 
>>> 4. **RAM**: Some malware operates purely in the system's memory (RAM),
>>> leaving no trace on the hard drive. This type of malware is often more
>>> challenging to detect, as it can vanish after a reboot.
>>> 
>>> 5. **Cloud Storage or Network Shares**: Malware can infect cloud storage
>>> services or network shares. Once a device accesses these locations, it
>>> may download or spread the infection to other systems.
>>> 
>>> 6. **Bootable Media**: In some cases, malware can reside on bootable
>>> media, such as CDs, DVDs, or even within boot sector code, and can
>>> execute before the operating system even loads.
>>> 
>>> These types of malware often require different approaches to detection
>>> and removal since traditional antivirus tools mainly focus on scanning
>>> hard drives.
>> 
>> Oh, you think malware only hides in boring old files and shady downloads? Oh
>> no, my friend. If malware were truly devious, it would lurk in places no one
>> would ever suspect…
>> 
>> 1. Inside That One Sock That Always Disappears in the Laundry
>> 
>> You thought it was eaten by the washing machine? Nope. That sock was recruited
>> by a cybercriminal to store malicious code in a fabric-based botnet. Every
>> missing sock? Part of the same dark web conspiracy.
>> 
>> 2. The Unread Terms & Conditions of Every Website Ever
>> 
>> Malware hides in the fine print, knowing full well that no one is actually
>> reading it. Clause 47.8b clearly states: “By clicking ‘I agree,’ you grant
>> this malware permission to reorganize your desktop icons into an unholy mess.”
>> 
>> 3. The Space Between Your Keyboard Keys
>> 
>> You ever drop a crumb between your keyboard keys and never find it again?
>> Yeah. It didn’t just fall—it was taken by malware that lives down there. At
>> night, it whispers “click here for free Bitcoin.”
>> 
>> 4. That USB Drive You Found in a Parking Lot
>> 
>> “Oh cool, free USB drive!” WRONG. That thing is stuffed with malware so
>> malicious, even your toaster would get infected if you plugged it in. In fact,
>> the USB drive itself is sentient—and it wants to be plugged in.
>> 
>> 5. The Extra 0.01% on Every Battery Percentage
>> 
>> Ever notice your phone stays at 100% for a suspiciously long time? Yeah,
>> that’s malware hoarding that last sliver of battery life for itself, using it
>> to mine crypto and play Minesweeper when you’re not looking.
>> 
>> 6. In Your Grandma’s Chain Emails
>> 
>> If your grandma ever forwarded you an email that said “SEND THIS TO 10 PEOPLE
>> OR YOUR DOG WILL LEARN TO TYPE”—congratulations! That email contained ancient
>> malware so old, it runs on MS-DOS but still manages to steal your passwords.
>> 
>> 7. The Digital Equivalent of ‘Under the Couch’
>> 
>> Just like lost TV remotes and potato chips, malware hides in the digital void
>> of your hard drive, chilling in unused sectors and occasionally emerging to
>> whisper “your warranty is expired.”
>> 
>> 8. Your Smart Fridge’s Ice Dispenser
>> 
>> “Why does the ice taste funny?” Because your smart fridge has been hacked and
>> is now sending encrypted spam emails through its crushed ice function. Also,
>> it keeps ordering way too much mayonnaise for no reason.
>> 
>> 9. Inside Your Printer’s Ink Cartridges
>> 
>> Your printer refuses to work even though there’s plenty of ink left? That’s
>> malware, siphoning off microscopic droplets of ink to fund its underground
>> operation. Every paper jam is just it trying to assert dominance.
>> 
>> 10. The “Close” Button on Fake Ads
>> 
>> You think you’re escaping, but nope—that fake “X” button is actually a portal
>> to malware town. Clicking it installs a toolbar that won’t go away and starts
>> calling you by your first name, which is unsettling.
>> 
>> 11. The Unused ‘Caps Lock’ Key
>> 
>> No one ever presses it on purpose. So malware just lives there, rent-free,
>> waiting for the moment you accidentally hit it so it can shout: BUY A VPN OR
>> ELSE in all caps.
>> 
>> 12. Your Wi-Fi Router’s Mysterious Extra Guest Network
>> 
>> Why does your Wi-Fi have an extra network called “ClickHereForFreeInternet”?
>> Because malware is now running its own side business selling stolen bandwidth
>> to confused neighbors and pigeons with internet access.
>> 
>> 13. In Your Own Reflection on Your Screen
>> 
>> That’s not you. That’s malware impersonating you, making you question reality
>> while it quietly drains your PayPal account and makes all your emails end with
>> “Sent from my iPhone” even when you don’t have one.
>> 
>> Moral of the story? Malware is everywhere. Even in places you wouldn’t
>> suspect. Stay safe out there, and if your fridge starts demanding ransom
>> payments… just unplug it.
>> 
>> 
> that's the box on the porch , right

Yes. Glad you understand.

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#180310

From% <pursent100@gmail.com>
Date2025-02-17 17:25 -0700
Message-ID<H0OdnRoqqpz6Ti76nZ2dnZfqnPadnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#180309
Brock McNuggets wrote:
> On Feb 17, 2025 at 5:11:35 PM MST, "%" wrote
> <lqOcnWQGh7CqTS76nZ2dnZfqn_idnZ2d@giganews.com>:
> 
>> Brock McNuggets wrote:
>>> On Feb 17, 2025 at 3:27:33 PM MST, "David" wrote
>>> <m1hrelFjft2U2@mid.individual.net>:
>>>
>>>> On 17/02/2025 21:58, Kelly Phillips wrote:
>>>>> On Sun, 16 Feb 2025 23:49:39 +0000, David <BD@invalid.email> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 16/02/2025 22:19, Kelly Phillips wrote:
>>>>>>> On Sun, 16 Feb 2025 21:13:27 +0000, David <BD@invalid.email> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 16/02/2025 19:44, Mike Easter wrote:
>>>>>>>>> AND...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ... your most frequently used anti-malware tactic is to 'regularly'
>>>>>>>>> erase your hdd and reinstall from scratch.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I'm aware that you don't agree with my methodology - but it works! :-D
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> But does it REALLY work? Remember when you used to be extremely fearful
>>>>>>> that wiping your drive didn't actually wipe every nook and cranny, and
>>>>>>> that your malware could possibly "lurk" or "hide" (your words) in some
>>>>>>> dark area of the drive, only to spring back to life at some time in the
>>>>>>> future?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I did *NOT* specify *DRIVE* in that regard.
>>>>>
>>>>> I don't think you have any idea what you've said. It's all good, though.
>>>>>
>>>>>> I was suggesting that malware can reside elsewhere within the physical
>>>>>> machine.
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes, I saw that, as well.
>>>>
>>>> Malware *CAN* reside in places other than the main hard drive. Here are
>>>> a few examples:
>>>>
>>>> 1. **USB Drives and External Storage**: Malware can infect USB drives,
>>>> external hard drives, and SD cards. When these devices are plugged into
>>>> a computer, the malware can execute or copy itself onto the system.
>>>>
>>>> 2. **Firmware**: Some sophisticated malware targets the firmware of
>>>> devices like the BIOS or UEFI (Unified Extensible Firmware Interface).
>>>> It can persist through reboots and even OS reinstalls, making it harder
>>>> to remove.
>>>>
>>>> 3. **Network Devices**: Certain malware can be embedded in devices like
>>>> routers, network-attached storage (NAS) devices, or printers. These
>>>> devices may have weak security and can serve as entry points for the
>>>> malware to infect connected computers.
>>>>
>>>> 4. **RAM**: Some malware operates purely in the system's memory (RAM),
>>>> leaving no trace on the hard drive. This type of malware is often more
>>>> challenging to detect, as it can vanish after a reboot.
>>>>
>>>> 5. **Cloud Storage or Network Shares**: Malware can infect cloud storage
>>>> services or network shares. Once a device accesses these locations, it
>>>> may download or spread the infection to other systems.
>>>>
>>>> 6. **Bootable Media**: In some cases, malware can reside on bootable
>>>> media, such as CDs, DVDs, or even within boot sector code, and can
>>>> execute before the operating system even loads.
>>>>
>>>> These types of malware often require different approaches to detection
>>>> and removal since traditional antivirus tools mainly focus on scanning
>>>> hard drives.
>>>
>>> Oh, you think malware only hides in boring old files and shady downloads? Oh
>>> no, my friend. If malware were truly devious, it would lurk in places no one
>>> would ever suspect…
>>>
>>> 1. Inside That One Sock That Always Disappears in the Laundry
>>>
>>> You thought it was eaten by the washing machine? Nope. That sock was recruited
>>> by a cybercriminal to store malicious code in a fabric-based botnet. Every
>>> missing sock? Part of the same dark web conspiracy.
>>>
>>> 2. The Unread Terms & Conditions of Every Website Ever
>>>
>>> Malware hides in the fine print, knowing full well that no one is actually
>>> reading it. Clause 47.8b clearly states: “By clicking ‘I agree,’ you grant
>>> this malware permission to reorganize your desktop icons into an unholy mess.”
>>>
>>> 3. The Space Between Your Keyboard Keys
>>>
>>> You ever drop a crumb between your keyboard keys and never find it again?
>>> Yeah. It didn’t just fall—it was taken by malware that lives down there. At
>>> night, it whispers “click here for free Bitcoin.”
>>>
>>> 4. That USB Drive You Found in a Parking Lot
>>>
>>> “Oh cool, free USB drive!” WRONG. That thing is stuffed with malware so
>>> malicious, even your toaster would get infected if you plugged it in. In fact,
>>> the USB drive itself is sentient—and it wants to be plugged in.
>>>
>>> 5. The Extra 0.01% on Every Battery Percentage
>>>
>>> Ever notice your phone stays at 100% for a suspiciously long time? Yeah,
>>> that’s malware hoarding that last sliver of battery life for itself, using it
>>> to mine crypto and play Minesweeper when you’re not looking.
>>>
>>> 6. In Your Grandma’s Chain Emails
>>>
>>> If your grandma ever forwarded you an email that said “SEND THIS TO 10 PEOPLE
>>> OR YOUR DOG WILL LEARN TO TYPE”—congratulations! That email contained ancient
>>> malware so old, it runs on MS-DOS but still manages to steal your passwords.
>>>
>>> 7. The Digital Equivalent of ‘Under the Couch’
>>>
>>> Just like lost TV remotes and potato chips, malware hides in the digital void
>>> of your hard drive, chilling in unused sectors and occasionally emerging to
>>> whisper “your warranty is expired.”
>>>
>>> 8. Your Smart Fridge’s Ice Dispenser
>>>
>>> “Why does the ice taste funny?” Because your smart fridge has been hacked and
>>> is now sending encrypted spam emails through its crushed ice function. Also,
>>> it keeps ordering way too much mayonnaise for no reason.
>>>
>>> 9. Inside Your Printer’s Ink Cartridges
>>>
>>> Your printer refuses to work even though there’s plenty of ink left? That’s
>>> malware, siphoning off microscopic droplets of ink to fund its underground
>>> operation. Every paper jam is just it trying to assert dominance.
>>>
>>> 10. The “Close” Button on Fake Ads
>>>
>>> You think you’re escaping, but nope—that fake “X” button is actually a portal
>>> to malware town. Clicking it installs a toolbar that won’t go away and starts
>>> calling you by your first name, which is unsettling.
>>>
>>> 11. The Unused ‘Caps Lock’ Key
>>>
>>> No one ever presses it on purpose. So malware just lives there, rent-free,
>>> waiting for the moment you accidentally hit it so it can shout: BUY A VPN OR
>>> ELSE in all caps.
>>>
>>> 12. Your Wi-Fi Router’s Mysterious Extra Guest Network
>>>
>>> Why does your Wi-Fi have an extra network called “ClickHereForFreeInternet”?
>>> Because malware is now running its own side business selling stolen bandwidth
>>> to confused neighbors and pigeons with internet access.
>>>
>>> 13. In Your Own Reflection on Your Screen
>>>
>>> That’s not you. That’s malware impersonating you, making you question reality
>>> while it quietly drains your PayPal account and makes all your emails end with
>>> “Sent from my iPhone” even when you don’t have one.
>>>
>>> Moral of the story? Malware is everywhere. Even in places you wouldn’t
>>> suspect. Stay safe out there, and if your fridge starts demanding ransom
>>> payments… just unplug it.
>>>
>>>
>> that's the box on the porch , right
> 
> Yes. Glad you understand.
> 
its a trick there's no plug

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#180312

FromBrock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com>
Date2025-02-18 00:58 +0000
Message-ID<67b3db26$8$20$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>
In reply to#180310
On Feb 17, 2025 at 5:25:11 PM MST, "%" wrote
<H0OdnRoqqpz6Ti76nZ2dnZfqnPadnZ2d@giganews.com>:

> Brock McNuggets wrote:
>> On Feb 17, 2025 at 5:11:35 PM MST, "%" wrote
>> <lqOcnWQGh7CqTS76nZ2dnZfqn_idnZ2d@giganews.com>:
>> 
>>> Brock McNuggets wrote:
>>>> On Feb 17, 2025 at 3:27:33 PM MST, "David" wrote
>>>> <m1hrelFjft2U2@mid.individual.net>:
>>>> 
>>>>> On 17/02/2025 21:58, Kelly Phillips wrote:
>>>>>> On Sun, 16 Feb 2025 23:49:39 +0000, David <BD@invalid.email> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 16/02/2025 22:19, Kelly Phillips wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Sun, 16 Feb 2025 21:13:27 +0000, David <BD@invalid.email> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On 16/02/2025 19:44, Mike Easter wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> AND...
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> ... your most frequently used anti-malware tactic is to 'regularly'
>>>>>>>>>> erase your hdd and reinstall from scratch.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> I'm aware that you don't agree with my methodology - but it works! :-D
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> But does it REALLY work? Remember when you used to be extremely fearful
>>>>>>>> that wiping your drive didn't actually wipe every nook and cranny, and
>>>>>>>> that your malware could possibly "lurk" or "hide" (your words) in some
>>>>>>>> dark area of the drive, only to spring back to life at some time in the
>>>>>>>> future?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I did *NOT* specify *DRIVE* in that regard.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I don't think you have any idea what you've said. It's all good, though.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I was suggesting that malware can reside elsewhere within the physical
>>>>>>> machine.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Yes, I saw that, as well.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Malware *CAN* reside in places other than the main hard drive. Here are
>>>>> a few examples:
>>>>> 
>>>>> 1. **USB Drives and External Storage**: Malware can infect USB drives,
>>>>> external hard drives, and SD cards. When these devices are plugged into
>>>>> a computer, the malware can execute or copy itself onto the system.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 2. **Firmware**: Some sophisticated malware targets the firmware of
>>>>> devices like the BIOS or UEFI (Unified Extensible Firmware Interface).
>>>>> It can persist through reboots and even OS reinstalls, making it harder
>>>>> to remove.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 3. **Network Devices**: Certain malware can be embedded in devices like
>>>>> routers, network-attached storage (NAS) devices, or printers. These
>>>>> devices may have weak security and can serve as entry points for the
>>>>> malware to infect connected computers.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 4. **RAM**: Some malware operates purely in the system's memory (RAM),
>>>>> leaving no trace on the hard drive. This type of malware is often more
>>>>> challenging to detect, as it can vanish after a reboot.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 5. **Cloud Storage or Network Shares**: Malware can infect cloud storage
>>>>> services or network shares. Once a device accesses these locations, it
>>>>> may download or spread the infection to other systems.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 6. **Bootable Media**: In some cases, malware can reside on bootable
>>>>> media, such as CDs, DVDs, or even within boot sector code, and can
>>>>> execute before the operating system even loads.
>>>>> 
>>>>> These types of malware often require different approaches to detection
>>>>> and removal since traditional antivirus tools mainly focus on scanning
>>>>> hard drives.
>>>> 
>>>> Oh, you think malware only hides in boring old files and shady downloads? Oh
>>>> no, my friend. If malware were truly devious, it would lurk in places no one
>>>> would ever suspect…
>>>> 
>>>> 1. Inside That One Sock That Always Disappears in the Laundry
>>>> 
>>>> You thought it was eaten by the washing machine? Nope. That sock was recruited
>>>> by a cybercriminal to store malicious code in a fabric-based botnet. Every
>>>> missing sock? Part of the same dark web conspiracy.
>>>> 
>>>> 2. The Unread Terms & Conditions of Every Website Ever
>>>> 
>>>> Malware hides in the fine print, knowing full well that no one is actually
>>>> reading it. Clause 47.8b clearly states: “By clicking ‘I agree,’ you grant
>>>> this malware permission to reorganize your desktop icons into an unholy mess.”
>>>> 
>>>> 3. The Space Between Your Keyboard Keys
>>>> 
>>>> You ever drop a crumb between your keyboard keys and never find it again?
>>>> Yeah. It didn’t just fall—it was taken by malware that lives down there. At
>>>> night, it whispers “click here for free Bitcoin.”
>>>> 
>>>> 4. That USB Drive You Found in a Parking Lot
>>>> 
>>>> “Oh cool, free USB drive!” WRONG. That thing is stuffed with malware so
>>>> malicious, even your toaster would get infected if you plugged it in. In fact,
>>>> the USB drive itself is sentient—and it wants to be plugged in.
>>>> 
>>>> 5. The Extra 0.01% on Every Battery Percentage
>>>> 
>>>> Ever notice your phone stays at 100% for a suspiciously long time? Yeah,
>>>> that’s malware hoarding that last sliver of battery life for itself, using it
>>>> to mine crypto and play Minesweeper when you’re not looking.
>>>> 
>>>> 6. In Your Grandma’s Chain Emails
>>>> 
>>>> If your grandma ever forwarded you an email that said “SEND THIS TO 10 PEOPLE
>>>> OR YOUR DOG WILL LEARN TO TYPE”—congratulations! That email contained ancient
>>>> malware so old, it runs on MS-DOS but still manages to steal your passwords.
>>>> 
>>>> 7. The Digital Equivalent of ‘Under the Couch’
>>>> 
>>>> Just like lost TV remotes and potato chips, malware hides in the digital void
>>>> of your hard drive, chilling in unused sectors and occasionally emerging to
>>>> whisper “your warranty is expired.”
>>>> 
>>>> 8. Your Smart Fridge’s Ice Dispenser
>>>> 
>>>> “Why does the ice taste funny?” Because your smart fridge has been hacked and
>>>> is now sending encrypted spam emails through its crushed ice function. Also,
>>>> it keeps ordering way too much mayonnaise for no reason.
>>>> 
>>>> 9. Inside Your Printer’s Ink Cartridges
>>>> 
>>>> Your printer refuses to work even though there’s plenty of ink left? That’s
>>>> malware, siphoning off microscopic droplets of ink to fund its underground
>>>> operation. Every paper jam is just it trying to assert dominance.
>>>> 
>>>> 10. The “Close” Button on Fake Ads
>>>> 
>>>> You think you’re escaping, but nope—that fake “X” button is actually a portal
>>>> to malware town. Clicking it installs a toolbar that won’t go away and starts
>>>> calling you by your first name, which is unsettling.
>>>> 
>>>> 11. The Unused ‘Caps Lock’ Key
>>>> 
>>>> No one ever presses it on purpose. So malware just lives there, rent-free,
>>>> waiting for the moment you accidentally hit it so it can shout: BUY A VPN OR
>>>> ELSE in all caps.
>>>> 
>>>> 12. Your Wi-Fi Router’s Mysterious Extra Guest Network
>>>> 
>>>> Why does your Wi-Fi have an extra network called “ClickHereForFreeInternet”?
>>>> Because malware is now running its own side business selling stolen bandwidth
>>>> to confused neighbors and pigeons with internet access.
>>>> 
>>>> 13. In Your Own Reflection on Your Screen
>>>> 
>>>> That’s not you. That’s malware impersonating you, making you question reality
>>>> while it quietly drains your PayPal account and makes all your emails end with
>>>> “Sent from my iPhone” even when you don’t have one.
>>>> 
>>>> Moral of the story? Malware is everywhere. Even in places you wouldn’t
>>>> suspect. Stay safe out there, and if your fridge starts demanding ransom
>>>> payments… just unplug it.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>> that's the box on the porch , right
>> 
>> Yes. Glad you understand.
>> 
> its a trick there's no plug

I live on a street that says no outlets anyway.

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#180313

From% <pursent100@gmail.com>
Date2025-02-17 18:51 -0700
Message-ID<CO2cnY0gSfM5ei76nZ2dnZfqn_QAAAAA@giganews.com>
In reply to#180312
Brock McNuggets wrote:
> On Feb 17, 2025 at 5:25:11 PM MST, "%" wrote
> <H0OdnRoqqpz6Ti76nZ2dnZfqnPadnZ2d@giganews.com>:
> 
>> Brock McNuggets wrote:
>>> On Feb 17, 2025 at 5:11:35 PM MST, "%" wrote
>>> <lqOcnWQGh7CqTS76nZ2dnZfqn_idnZ2d@giganews.com>:
>>>
>>>> Brock McNuggets wrote:
>>>>> On Feb 17, 2025 at 3:27:33 PM MST, "David" wrote
>>>>> <m1hrelFjft2U2@mid.individual.net>:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 17/02/2025 21:58, Kelly Phillips wrote:
>>>>>>> On Sun, 16 Feb 2025 23:49:39 +0000, David <BD@invalid.email> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 16/02/2025 22:19, Kelly Phillips wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 16 Feb 2025 21:13:27 +0000, David <BD@invalid.email> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 16/02/2025 19:44, Mike Easter wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> AND...
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> ... your most frequently used anti-malware tactic is to 'regularly'
>>>>>>>>>>> erase your hdd and reinstall from scratch.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I'm aware that you don't agree with my methodology - but it works! :-D
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> But does it REALLY work? Remember when you used to be extremely fearful
>>>>>>>>> that wiping your drive didn't actually wipe every nook and cranny, and
>>>>>>>>> that your malware could possibly "lurk" or "hide" (your words) in some
>>>>>>>>> dark area of the drive, only to spring back to life at some time in the
>>>>>>>>> future?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I did *NOT* specify *DRIVE* in that regard.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I don't think you have any idea what you've said. It's all good, though.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I was suggesting that malware can reside elsewhere within the physical
>>>>>>>> machine.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yes, I saw that, as well.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Malware *CAN* reside in places other than the main hard drive. Here are
>>>>>> a few examples:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 1. **USB Drives and External Storage**: Malware can infect USB drives,
>>>>>> external hard drives, and SD cards. When these devices are plugged into
>>>>>> a computer, the malware can execute or copy itself onto the system.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2. **Firmware**: Some sophisticated malware targets the firmware of
>>>>>> devices like the BIOS or UEFI (Unified Extensible Firmware Interface).
>>>>>> It can persist through reboots and even OS reinstalls, making it harder
>>>>>> to remove.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 3. **Network Devices**: Certain malware can be embedded in devices like
>>>>>> routers, network-attached storage (NAS) devices, or printers. These
>>>>>> devices may have weak security and can serve as entry points for the
>>>>>> malware to infect connected computers.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 4. **RAM**: Some malware operates purely in the system's memory (RAM),
>>>>>> leaving no trace on the hard drive. This type of malware is often more
>>>>>> challenging to detect, as it can vanish after a reboot.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 5. **Cloud Storage or Network Shares**: Malware can infect cloud storage
>>>>>> services or network shares. Once a device accesses these locations, it
>>>>>> may download or spread the infection to other systems.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 6. **Bootable Media**: In some cases, malware can reside on bootable
>>>>>> media, such as CDs, DVDs, or even within boot sector code, and can
>>>>>> execute before the operating system even loads.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> These types of malware often require different approaches to detection
>>>>>> and removal since traditional antivirus tools mainly focus on scanning
>>>>>> hard drives.
>>>>>
>>>>> Oh, you think malware only hides in boring old files and shady downloads? Oh
>>>>> no, my friend. If malware were truly devious, it would lurk in places no one
>>>>> would ever suspect…
>>>>>
>>>>> 1. Inside That One Sock That Always Disappears in the Laundry
>>>>>
>>>>> You thought it was eaten by the washing machine? Nope. That sock was recruited
>>>>> by a cybercriminal to store malicious code in a fabric-based botnet. Every
>>>>> missing sock? Part of the same dark web conspiracy.
>>>>>
>>>>> 2. The Unread Terms & Conditions of Every Website Ever
>>>>>
>>>>> Malware hides in the fine print, knowing full well that no one is actually
>>>>> reading it. Clause 47.8b clearly states: “By clicking ‘I agree,’ you grant
>>>>> this malware permission to reorganize your desktop icons into an unholy mess.”
>>>>>
>>>>> 3. The Space Between Your Keyboard Keys
>>>>>
>>>>> You ever drop a crumb between your keyboard keys and never find it again?
>>>>> Yeah. It didn’t just fall—it was taken by malware that lives down there. At
>>>>> night, it whispers “click here for free Bitcoin.”
>>>>>
>>>>> 4. That USB Drive You Found in a Parking Lot
>>>>>
>>>>> “Oh cool, free USB drive!” WRONG. That thing is stuffed with malware so
>>>>> malicious, even your toaster would get infected if you plugged it in. In fact,
>>>>> the USB drive itself is sentient—and it wants to be plugged in.
>>>>>
>>>>> 5. The Extra 0.01% on Every Battery Percentage
>>>>>
>>>>> Ever notice your phone stays at 100% for a suspiciously long time? Yeah,
>>>>> that’s malware hoarding that last sliver of battery life for itself, using it
>>>>> to mine crypto and play Minesweeper when you’re not looking.
>>>>>
>>>>> 6. In Your Grandma’s Chain Emails
>>>>>
>>>>> If your grandma ever forwarded you an email that said “SEND THIS TO 10 PEOPLE
>>>>> OR YOUR DOG WILL LEARN TO TYPE”—congratulations! That email contained ancient
>>>>> malware so old, it runs on MS-DOS but still manages to steal your passwords.
>>>>>
>>>>> 7. The Digital Equivalent of ‘Under the Couch’
>>>>>
>>>>> Just like lost TV remotes and potato chips, malware hides in the digital void
>>>>> of your hard drive, chilling in unused sectors and occasionally emerging to
>>>>> whisper “your warranty is expired.”
>>>>>
>>>>> 8. Your Smart Fridge’s Ice Dispenser
>>>>>
>>>>> “Why does the ice taste funny?” Because your smart fridge has been hacked and
>>>>> is now sending encrypted spam emails through its crushed ice function. Also,
>>>>> it keeps ordering way too much mayonnaise for no reason.
>>>>>
>>>>> 9. Inside Your Printer’s Ink Cartridges
>>>>>
>>>>> Your printer refuses to work even though there’s plenty of ink left? That’s
>>>>> malware, siphoning off microscopic droplets of ink to fund its underground
>>>>> operation. Every paper jam is just it trying to assert dominance.
>>>>>
>>>>> 10. The “Close” Button on Fake Ads
>>>>>
>>>>> You think you’re escaping, but nope—that fake “X” button is actually a portal
>>>>> to malware town. Clicking it installs a toolbar that won’t go away and starts
>>>>> calling you by your first name, which is unsettling.
>>>>>
>>>>> 11. The Unused ‘Caps Lock’ Key
>>>>>
>>>>> No one ever presses it on purpose. So malware just lives there, rent-free,
>>>>> waiting for the moment you accidentally hit it so it can shout: BUY A VPN OR
>>>>> ELSE in all caps.
>>>>>
>>>>> 12. Your Wi-Fi Router’s Mysterious Extra Guest Network
>>>>>
>>>>> Why does your Wi-Fi have an extra network called “ClickHereForFreeInternet”?
>>>>> Because malware is now running its own side business selling stolen bandwidth
>>>>> to confused neighbors and pigeons with internet access.
>>>>>
>>>>> 13. In Your Own Reflection on Your Screen
>>>>>
>>>>> That’s not you. That’s malware impersonating you, making you question reality
>>>>> while it quietly drains your PayPal account and makes all your emails end with
>>>>> “Sent from my iPhone” even when you don’t have one.
>>>>>
>>>>> Moral of the story? Malware is everywhere. Even in places you wouldn’t
>>>>> suspect. Stay safe out there, and if your fridge starts demanding ransom
>>>>> payments… just unplug it.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> that's the box on the porch , right
>>>
>>> Yes. Glad you understand.
>>>
>> its a trick there's no plug
> 
> I live on a street that says no outlets anyway.
> 
i saw where you live on tv a few days ago

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#180314

FromBrock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com>
Date2025-02-18 01:55 +0000
Message-ID<67b3e8a4$16$14$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>
In reply to#180313
On Feb 17, 2025 at 6:51:31 PM MST, "%" wrote
<CO2cnY0gSfM5ei76nZ2dnZfqn_QAAAAA@giganews.com>:

> Brock McNuggets wrote:
>> On Feb 17, 2025 at 5:25:11 PM MST, "%" wrote
>> <H0OdnRoqqpz6Ti76nZ2dnZfqnPadnZ2d@giganews.com>:
>> 
>>> Brock McNuggets wrote:
>>>> On Feb 17, 2025 at 5:11:35 PM MST, "%" wrote
>>>> <lqOcnWQGh7CqTS76nZ2dnZfqn_idnZ2d@giganews.com>:
>>>> 
>>>>> Brock McNuggets wrote:
>>>>>> On Feb 17, 2025 at 3:27:33 PM MST, "David" wrote
>>>>>> <m1hrelFjft2U2@mid.individual.net>:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 17/02/2025 21:58, Kelly Phillips wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Sun, 16 Feb 2025 23:49:39 +0000, David <BD@invalid.email> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On 16/02/2025 22:19, Kelly Phillips wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 16 Feb 2025 21:13:27 +0000, David <BD@invalid.email> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> On 16/02/2025 19:44, Mike Easter wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> AND...
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> ... your most frequently used anti-malware tactic is to 'regularly'
>>>>>>>>>>>> erase your hdd and reinstall from scratch.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> I'm aware that you don't agree with my methodology - but it works! :-D
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> But does it REALLY work? Remember when you used to be extremely fearful
>>>>>>>>>> that wiping your drive didn't actually wipe every nook and cranny, and
>>>>>>>>>> that your malware could possibly "lurk" or "hide" (your words) in some
>>>>>>>>>> dark area of the drive, only to spring back to life at some time in the
>>>>>>>>>> future?
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> I did *NOT* specify *DRIVE* in that regard.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I don't think you have any idea what you've said. It's all good, though.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> I was suggesting that malware can reside elsewhere within the physical
>>>>>>>>> machine.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Yes, I saw that, as well.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Malware *CAN* reside in places other than the main hard drive. Here are
>>>>>>> a few examples:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 1. **USB Drives and External Storage**: Malware can infect USB drives,
>>>>>>> external hard drives, and SD cards. When these devices are plugged into
>>>>>>> a computer, the malware can execute or copy itself onto the system.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 2. **Firmware**: Some sophisticated malware targets the firmware of
>>>>>>> devices like the BIOS or UEFI (Unified Extensible Firmware Interface).
>>>>>>> It can persist through reboots and even OS reinstalls, making it harder
>>>>>>> to remove.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 3. **Network Devices**: Certain malware can be embedded in devices like
>>>>>>> routers, network-attached storage (NAS) devices, or printers. These
>>>>>>> devices may have weak security and can serve as entry points for the
>>>>>>> malware to infect connected computers.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 4. **RAM**: Some malware operates purely in the system's memory (RAM),
>>>>>>> leaving no trace on the hard drive. This type of malware is often more
>>>>>>> challenging to detect, as it can vanish after a reboot.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 5. **Cloud Storage or Network Shares**: Malware can infect cloud storage
>>>>>>> services or network shares. Once a device accesses these locations, it
>>>>>>> may download or spread the infection to other systems.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 6. **Bootable Media**: In some cases, malware can reside on bootable
>>>>>>> media, such as CDs, DVDs, or even within boot sector code, and can
>>>>>>> execute before the operating system even loads.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> These types of malware often require different approaches to detection
>>>>>>> and removal since traditional antivirus tools mainly focus on scanning
>>>>>>> hard drives.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Oh, you think malware only hides in boring old files and shady downloads? Oh
>>>>>> no, my friend. If malware were truly devious, it would lurk in places no one
>>>>>> would ever suspect…
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 1. Inside That One Sock That Always Disappears in the Laundry
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> You thought it was eaten by the washing machine? Nope. That sock was recruited
>>>>>> by a cybercriminal to store malicious code in a fabric-based botnet. Every
>>>>>> missing sock? Part of the same dark web conspiracy.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 2. The Unread Terms & Conditions of Every Website Ever
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Malware hides in the fine print, knowing full well that no one is actually
>>>>>> reading it. Clause 47.8b clearly states: “By clicking ‘I agree,’ you grant
>>>>>> this malware permission to reorganize your desktop icons into an unholy mess.”
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 3. The Space Between Your Keyboard Keys
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> You ever drop a crumb between your keyboard keys and never find it again?
>>>>>> Yeah. It didn’t just fall—it was taken by malware that lives down there. At
>>>>>> night, it whispers “click here for free Bitcoin.”
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 4. That USB Drive You Found in a Parking Lot
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> “Oh cool, free USB drive!” WRONG. That thing is stuffed with malware so
>>>>>> malicious, even your toaster would get infected if you plugged it in. In fact,
>>>>>> the USB drive itself is sentient—and it wants to be plugged in.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 5. The Extra 0.01% on Every Battery Percentage
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Ever notice your phone stays at 100% for a suspiciously long time? Yeah,
>>>>>> that’s malware hoarding that last sliver of battery life for itself, using it
>>>>>> to mine crypto and play Minesweeper when you’re not looking.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 6. In Your Grandma’s Chain Emails
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> If your grandma ever forwarded you an email that said “SEND THIS TO 10 PEOPLE
>>>>>> OR YOUR DOG WILL LEARN TO TYPE”—congratulations! That email contained ancient
>>>>>> malware so old, it runs on MS-DOS but still manages to steal your passwords.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 7. The Digital Equivalent of ‘Under the Couch’
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Just like lost TV remotes and potato chips, malware hides in the digital void
>>>>>> of your hard drive, chilling in unused sectors and occasionally emerging to
>>>>>> whisper “your warranty is expired.”
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 8. Your Smart Fridge’s Ice Dispenser
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> “Why does the ice taste funny?” Because your smart fridge has been hacked and
>>>>>> is now sending encrypted spam emails through its crushed ice function. Also,
>>>>>> it keeps ordering way too much mayonnaise for no reason.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 9. Inside Your Printer’s Ink Cartridges
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Your printer refuses to work even though there’s plenty of ink left? That’s
>>>>>> malware, siphoning off microscopic droplets of ink to fund its underground
>>>>>> operation. Every paper jam is just it trying to assert dominance.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 10. The “Close” Button on Fake Ads
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> You think you’re escaping, but nope—that fake “X” button is actually a portal
>>>>>> to malware town. Clicking it installs a toolbar that won’t go away and starts
>>>>>> calling you by your first name, which is unsettling.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 11. The Unused ‘Caps Lock’ Key
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> No one ever presses it on purpose. So malware just lives there, rent-free,
>>>>>> waiting for the moment you accidentally hit it so it can shout: BUY A VPN OR
>>>>>> ELSE in all caps.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 12. Your Wi-Fi Router’s Mysterious Extra Guest Network
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Why does your Wi-Fi have an extra network called “ClickHereForFreeInternet”?
>>>>>> Because malware is now running its own side business selling stolen bandwidth
>>>>>> to confused neighbors and pigeons with internet access.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 13. In Your Own Reflection on Your Screen
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> That’s not you. That’s malware impersonating you, making you question reality
>>>>>> while it quietly drains your PayPal account and makes all your emails end with
>>>>>> “Sent from my iPhone” even when you don’t have one.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Moral of the story? Malware is everywhere. Even in places you wouldn’t
>>>>>> suspect. Stay safe out there, and if your fridge starts demanding ransom
>>>>>> payments… just unplug it.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>> that's the box on the porch , right
>>>> 
>>>> Yes. Glad you understand.
>>>> 
>>> its a trick there's no plug
>> 
>> I live on a street that says no outlets anyway.
>> 
> i saw where you live on tv a few days ago

I live on TV.

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#180315

From% <pursent100@gmail.com>
Date2025-02-17 19:01 -0700
Message-ID<CbSdnTH5u_5kdC76nZ2dnZfqnPUAAAAA@giganews.com>
In reply to#180314
Brock McNuggets wrote:
> On Feb 17, 2025 at 6:51:31 PM MST, "%" wrote
> <CO2cnY0gSfM5ei76nZ2dnZfqn_QAAAAA@giganews.com>:
> 
>> Brock McNuggets wrote:
>>> On Feb 17, 2025 at 5:25:11 PM MST, "%" wrote
>>> <H0OdnRoqqpz6Ti76nZ2dnZfqnPadnZ2d@giganews.com>:
>>>
>>>> Brock McNuggets wrote:
>>>>> On Feb 17, 2025 at 5:11:35 PM MST, "%" wrote
>>>>> <lqOcnWQGh7CqTS76nZ2dnZfqn_idnZ2d@giganews.com>:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Brock McNuggets wrote:
>>>>>>> On Feb 17, 2025 at 3:27:33 PM MST, "David" wrote
>>>>>>> <m1hrelFjft2U2@mid.individual.net>:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 17/02/2025 21:58, Kelly Phillips wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 16 Feb 2025 23:49:39 +0000, David <BD@invalid.email> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 16/02/2025 22:19, Kelly Phillips wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 16 Feb 2025 21:13:27 +0000, David <BD@invalid.email> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 16/02/2025 19:44, Mike Easter wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> AND...
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ... your most frequently used anti-malware tactic is to 'regularly'
>>>>>>>>>>>>> erase your hdd and reinstall from scratch.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm aware that you don't agree with my methodology - but it works! :-D
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> But does it REALLY work? Remember when you used to be extremely fearful
>>>>>>>>>>> that wiping your drive didn't actually wipe every nook and cranny, and
>>>>>>>>>>> that your malware could possibly "lurk" or "hide" (your words) in some
>>>>>>>>>>> dark area of the drive, only to spring back to life at some time in the
>>>>>>>>>>> future?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I did *NOT* specify *DRIVE* in that regard.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I don't think you have any idea what you've said. It's all good, though.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I was suggesting that malware can reside elsewhere within the physical
>>>>>>>>>> machine.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Yes, I saw that, as well.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Malware *CAN* reside in places other than the main hard drive. Here are
>>>>>>>> a few examples:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 1. **USB Drives and External Storage**: Malware can infect USB drives,
>>>>>>>> external hard drives, and SD cards. When these devices are plugged into
>>>>>>>> a computer, the malware can execute or copy itself onto the system.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 2. **Firmware**: Some sophisticated malware targets the firmware of
>>>>>>>> devices like the BIOS or UEFI (Unified Extensible Firmware Interface).
>>>>>>>> It can persist through reboots and even OS reinstalls, making it harder
>>>>>>>> to remove.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 3. **Network Devices**: Certain malware can be embedded in devices like
>>>>>>>> routers, network-attached storage (NAS) devices, or printers. These
>>>>>>>> devices may have weak security and can serve as entry points for the
>>>>>>>> malware to infect connected computers.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 4. **RAM**: Some malware operates purely in the system's memory (RAM),
>>>>>>>> leaving no trace on the hard drive. This type of malware is often more
>>>>>>>> challenging to detect, as it can vanish after a reboot.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 5. **Cloud Storage or Network Shares**: Malware can infect cloud storage
>>>>>>>> services or network shares. Once a device accesses these locations, it
>>>>>>>> may download or spread the infection to other systems.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 6. **Bootable Media**: In some cases, malware can reside on bootable
>>>>>>>> media, such as CDs, DVDs, or even within boot sector code, and can
>>>>>>>> execute before the operating system even loads.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> These types of malware often require different approaches to detection
>>>>>>>> and removal since traditional antivirus tools mainly focus on scanning
>>>>>>>> hard drives.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Oh, you think malware only hides in boring old files and shady downloads? Oh
>>>>>>> no, my friend. If malware were truly devious, it would lurk in places no one
>>>>>>> would ever suspect…
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 1. Inside That One Sock That Always Disappears in the Laundry
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You thought it was eaten by the washing machine? Nope. That sock was recruited
>>>>>>> by a cybercriminal to store malicious code in a fabric-based botnet. Every
>>>>>>> missing sock? Part of the same dark web conspiracy.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 2. The Unread Terms & Conditions of Every Website Ever
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Malware hides in the fine print, knowing full well that no one is actually
>>>>>>> reading it. Clause 47.8b clearly states: “By clicking ‘I agree,’ you grant
>>>>>>> this malware permission to reorganize your desktop icons into an unholy mess.”
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 3. The Space Between Your Keyboard Keys
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You ever drop a crumb between your keyboard keys and never find it again?
>>>>>>> Yeah. It didn’t just fall—it was taken by malware that lives down there. At
>>>>>>> night, it whispers “click here for free Bitcoin.”
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 4. That USB Drive You Found in a Parking Lot
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> “Oh cool, free USB drive!” WRONG. That thing is stuffed with malware so
>>>>>>> malicious, even your toaster would get infected if you plugged it in. In fact,
>>>>>>> the USB drive itself is sentient—and it wants to be plugged in.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 5. The Extra 0.01% on Every Battery Percentage
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Ever notice your phone stays at 100% for a suspiciously long time? Yeah,
>>>>>>> that’s malware hoarding that last sliver of battery life for itself, using it
>>>>>>> to mine crypto and play Minesweeper when you’re not looking.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 6. In Your Grandma’s Chain Emails
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If your grandma ever forwarded you an email that said “SEND THIS TO 10 PEOPLE
>>>>>>> OR YOUR DOG WILL LEARN TO TYPE”—congratulations! That email contained ancient
>>>>>>> malware so old, it runs on MS-DOS but still manages to steal your passwords.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 7. The Digital Equivalent of ‘Under the Couch’
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Just like lost TV remotes and potato chips, malware hides in the digital void
>>>>>>> of your hard drive, chilling in unused sectors and occasionally emerging to
>>>>>>> whisper “your warranty is expired.”
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 8. Your Smart Fridge’s Ice Dispenser
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> “Why does the ice taste funny?” Because your smart fridge has been hacked and
>>>>>>> is now sending encrypted spam emails through its crushed ice function. Also,
>>>>>>> it keeps ordering way too much mayonnaise for no reason.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 9. Inside Your Printer’s Ink Cartridges
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Your printer refuses to work even though there’s plenty of ink left? That’s
>>>>>>> malware, siphoning off microscopic droplets of ink to fund its underground
>>>>>>> operation. Every paper jam is just it trying to assert dominance.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 10. The “Close” Button on Fake Ads
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You think you’re escaping, but nope—that fake “X” button is actually a portal
>>>>>>> to malware town. Clicking it installs a toolbar that won’t go away and starts
>>>>>>> calling you by your first name, which is unsettling.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 11. The Unused ‘Caps Lock’ Key
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> No one ever presses it on purpose. So malware just lives there, rent-free,
>>>>>>> waiting for the moment you accidentally hit it so it can shout: BUY A VPN OR
>>>>>>> ELSE in all caps.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 12. Your Wi-Fi Router’s Mysterious Extra Guest Network
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Why does your Wi-Fi have an extra network called “ClickHereForFreeInternet”?
>>>>>>> Because malware is now running its own side business selling stolen bandwidth
>>>>>>> to confused neighbors and pigeons with internet access.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 13. In Your Own Reflection on Your Screen
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> That’s not you. That’s malware impersonating you, making you question reality
>>>>>>> while it quietly drains your PayPal account and makes all your emails end with
>>>>>>> “Sent from my iPhone” even when you don’t have one.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Moral of the story? Malware is everywhere. Even in places you wouldn’t
>>>>>>> suspect. Stay safe out there, and if your fridge starts demanding ransom
>>>>>>> payments… just unplug it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> that's the box on the porch , right
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes. Glad you understand.
>>>>>
>>>> its a trick there's no plug
>>>
>>> I live on a street that says no outlets anyway.
>>>
>> i saw where you live on tv a few days ago
> 
> I live on TV.
> 
i waved at you

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#180316

FromBrock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com>
Date2025-02-18 02:41 +0000
Message-ID<67b3f36f$6$22$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>
In reply to#180315
On Feb 17, 2025 at 7:01:29 PM MST, "%" wrote
<CbSdnTH5u_5kdC76nZ2dnZfqnPUAAAAA@giganews.com>:

> Brock McNuggets wrote:
>> On Feb 17, 2025 at 6:51:31 PM MST, "%" wrote
>> <CO2cnY0gSfM5ei76nZ2dnZfqn_QAAAAA@giganews.com>:
>> 
>>> Brock McNuggets wrote:
>>>> On Feb 17, 2025 at 5:25:11 PM MST, "%" wrote
>>>> <H0OdnRoqqpz6Ti76nZ2dnZfqnPadnZ2d@giganews.com>:
>>>> 
>>>>> Brock McNuggets wrote:
>>>>>> On Feb 17, 2025 at 5:11:35 PM MST, "%" wrote
>>>>>> <lqOcnWQGh7CqTS76nZ2dnZfqn_idnZ2d@giganews.com>:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Brock McNuggets wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Feb 17, 2025 at 3:27:33 PM MST, "David" wrote
>>>>>>>> <m1hrelFjft2U2@mid.individual.net>:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On 17/02/2025 21:58, Kelly Phillips wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 16 Feb 2025 23:49:39 +0000, David <BD@invalid.email> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> On 16/02/2025 22:19, Kelly Phillips wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 16 Feb 2025 21:13:27 +0000, David <BD@invalid.email> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 16/02/2025 19:44, Mike Easter wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> AND...
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ... your most frequently used anti-malware tactic is to 'regularly'
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> erase your hdd and reinstall from scratch.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm aware that you don't agree with my methodology - but it works! :-D
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> But does it REALLY work? Remember when you used to be extremely fearful
>>>>>>>>>>>> that wiping your drive didn't actually wipe every nook and cranny, and
>>>>>>>>>>>> that your malware could possibly "lurk" or "hide" (your words) in some
>>>>>>>>>>>> dark area of the drive, only to spring back to life at some time in the
>>>>>>>>>>>> future?
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> I did *NOT* specify *DRIVE* in that regard.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> I don't think you have any idea what you've said. It's all good, though.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> I was suggesting that malware can reside elsewhere within the physical
>>>>>>>>>>> machine.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Yes, I saw that, as well.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Malware *CAN* reside in places other than the main hard drive. Here are
>>>>>>>>> a few examples:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 1. **USB Drives and External Storage**: Malware can infect USB drives,
>>>>>>>>> external hard drives, and SD cards. When these devices are plugged into
>>>>>>>>> a computer, the malware can execute or copy itself onto the system.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 2. **Firmware**: Some sophisticated malware targets the firmware of
>>>>>>>>> devices like the BIOS or UEFI (Unified Extensible Firmware Interface).
>>>>>>>>> It can persist through reboots and even OS reinstalls, making it harder
>>>>>>>>> to remove.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 3. **Network Devices**: Certain malware can be embedded in devices like
>>>>>>>>> routers, network-attached storage (NAS) devices, or printers. These
>>>>>>>>> devices may have weak security and can serve as entry points for the
>>>>>>>>> malware to infect connected computers.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 4. **RAM**: Some malware operates purely in the system's memory (RAM),
>>>>>>>>> leaving no trace on the hard drive. This type of malware is often more
>>>>>>>>> challenging to detect, as it can vanish after a reboot.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 5. **Cloud Storage or Network Shares**: Malware can infect cloud storage
>>>>>>>>> services or network shares. Once a device accesses these locations, it
>>>>>>>>> may download or spread the infection to other systems.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 6. **Bootable Media**: In some cases, malware can reside on bootable
>>>>>>>>> media, such as CDs, DVDs, or even within boot sector code, and can
>>>>>>>>> execute before the operating system even loads.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> These types of malware often require different approaches to detection
>>>>>>>>> and removal since traditional antivirus tools mainly focus on scanning
>>>>>>>>> hard drives.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Oh, you think malware only hides in boring old files and shady downloads? Oh
>>>>>>>> no, my friend. If malware were truly devious, it would lurk in places no one
>>>>>>>> would ever suspect…
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 1. Inside That One Sock That Always Disappears in the Laundry
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> You thought it was eaten by the washing machine? Nope. That sock was recruited
>>>>>>>> by a cybercriminal to store malicious code in a fabric-based botnet. Every
>>>>>>>> missing sock? Part of the same dark web conspiracy.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 2. The Unread Terms & Conditions of Every Website Ever
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Malware hides in the fine print, knowing full well that no one is actually
>>>>>>>> reading it. Clause 47.8b clearly states: “By clicking ‘I agree,’ you grant
>>>>>>>> this malware permission to reorganize your desktop icons into an unholy mess.”
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 3. The Space Between Your Keyboard Keys
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> You ever drop a crumb between your keyboard keys and never find it again?
>>>>>>>> Yeah. It didn’t just fall—it was taken by malware that lives down there. At
>>>>>>>> night, it whispers “click here for free Bitcoin.”
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 4. That USB Drive You Found in a Parking Lot
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> “Oh cool, free USB drive!” WRONG. That thing is stuffed with malware so
>>>>>>>> malicious, even your toaster would get infected if you plugged it in. In fact,
>>>>>>>> the USB drive itself is sentient—and it wants to be plugged in.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 5. The Extra 0.01% on Every Battery Percentage
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Ever notice your phone stays at 100% for a suspiciously long time? Yeah,
>>>>>>>> that’s malware hoarding that last sliver of battery life for itself, using it
>>>>>>>> to mine crypto and play Minesweeper when you’re not looking.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 6. In Your Grandma’s Chain Emails
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> If your grandma ever forwarded you an email that said “SEND THIS TO 10 PEOPLE
>>>>>>>> OR YOUR DOG WILL LEARN TO TYPE”—congratulations! That email contained ancient
>>>>>>>> malware so old, it runs on MS-DOS but still manages to steal your passwords.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 7. The Digital Equivalent of ‘Under the Couch’
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Just like lost TV remotes and potato chips, malware hides in the digital void
>>>>>>>> of your hard drive, chilling in unused sectors and occasionally emerging to
>>>>>>>> whisper “your warranty is expired.”
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 8. Your Smart Fridge’s Ice Dispenser
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> “Why does the ice taste funny?” Because your smart fridge has been hacked and
>>>>>>>> is now sending encrypted spam emails through its crushed ice function. Also,
>>>>>>>> it keeps ordering way too much mayonnaise for no reason.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 9. Inside Your Printer’s Ink Cartridges
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Your printer refuses to work even though there’s plenty of ink left? That’s
>>>>>>>> malware, siphoning off microscopic droplets of ink to fund its underground
>>>>>>>> operation. Every paper jam is just it trying to assert dominance.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 10. The “Close” Button on Fake Ads
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> You think you’re escaping, but nope—that fake “X” button is actually a portal
>>>>>>>> to malware town. Clicking it installs a toolbar that won’t go away and starts
>>>>>>>> calling you by your first name, which is unsettling.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 11. The Unused ‘Caps Lock’ Key
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> No one ever presses it on purpose. So malware just lives there, rent-free,
>>>>>>>> waiting for the moment you accidentally hit it so it can shout: BUY A VPN OR
>>>>>>>> ELSE in all caps.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 12. Your Wi-Fi Router’s Mysterious Extra Guest Network
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Why does your Wi-Fi have an extra network called “ClickHereForFreeInternet”?
>>>>>>>> Because malware is now running its own side business selling stolen bandwidth
>>>>>>>> to confused neighbors and pigeons with internet access.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 13. In Your Own Reflection on Your Screen
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> That’s not you. That’s malware impersonating you, making you question reality
>>>>>>>> while it quietly drains your PayPal account and makes all your emails end with
>>>>>>>> “Sent from my iPhone” even when you don’t have one.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Moral of the story? Malware is everywhere. Even in places you wouldn’t
>>>>>>>> suspect. Stay safe out there, and if your fridge starts demanding ransom
>>>>>>>> payments… just unplug it.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> that's the box on the porch , right
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Yes. Glad you understand.
>>>>>> 
>>>>> its a trick there's no plug
>>>> 
>>>> I live on a street that says no outlets anyway.
>>>> 
>>> i saw where you live on tv a few days ago
>> 
>> I live on TV.
>> 
> i waved at you

That's the microwave.

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#180402

FromGremlin <nobody@haph.org>
Date2025-02-22 05:27 +0000
Message-ID<XnsB28E498F1958HT1@cF04o3ON7k2lx05.lLC.9r5>
In reply to#180302
David <BD@invalid.email> news:m1hrelFjft2U2@mid.individual.net Mon, 17 Feb 
2025 22:27:33 GMT in alt.computer.workshop, wrote:

> Malware *CAN* reside in places other than the main hard drive. Here are 
> a few examples:

I'm sure he's well aware of the methods you shared. You actually duplicated 
atleast one...You did this because you don't actually understand things 
concerning these machines on a technical level. For you, some of what can be 
done with them appears to be black magic or something. At some point, you 
assumed that some malware cannot be removed; once you have it, you have it 
it's a done deal. That's not actually true, and I've tried to explain this 
to you several times. You ignore me though and continue on with it. It is 
somewhat annoying, but, I've learned to look over it.

> 1. **USB Drives and External Storage**: Malware can infect USB drives, 
> external hard drives, and SD cards. When these devices are plugged into 
> a computer, the malware can execute or copy itself onto the system.

Via auto run exploits if inserted into a windows based rig, otherwise 
firmware modification; but again, it'll be OS specific. And with Linux, it 
could even be distro specific. IE: works fine on say Linux Mint, but won't 
work on MXLinux. They're based on different bases and this does sometimes 
cause issues.

> 2. **Firmware**: Some sophisticated malware targets the firmware of 
> devices like the BIOS or UEFI (Unified Extensible Firmware Interface). 
> It can persist through reboots and even OS reinstalls, making it harder 
> to remove.

It doesn't have to be sophisticated to go that route, but, most of the time 
when they do firmware exploits, it's pretty advanced code with several 
payloads. That's been my experience anyway.

> 3. **Network Devices**: Certain malware can be embedded in devices like 
> routers, network-attached storage (NAS) devices, or printers. These 
> devices may have weak security and can serve as entry points for the 
> malware to infect connected computers.

This is one place where you duplicated yourself. It's firmware, bro. Instead 
of doing a copy/paste, why don't you actually read the material and do what 
we were taught to do as children? Acquire more details; research the matter 
so that you have a solid understanding of what's being discussed.  We used 
to use actual books for that, but the internet made that task much easier. 
You still have to actually do it tho. :)

> 4. **RAM**: Some malware operates purely in the system's memory (RAM), 
> leaving no trace on the hard drive. This type of malware is often more 
> challenging to detect, as it can vanish after a reboot.

It still has to be loaded from a solid point to get into the RAM. And while 
it's in solid form, if you don't use the host OS, you can hunt it down. All 
Malware technically resides in RAM anyhow, they're programs like any other. 
They just do things that they shouldn't be doing. But, at the end of the day 
they are still programs, and can be treated the same as any other program. 

It's not possible to make truely undetectable malware David, is the point, 
i'm trying to make here. It's quite possible to make it very difficult and 
not possible with certain tools; but as I'm sure you understand, there's 
more than one kind of tool.

> 5. **Cloud Storage or Network Shares**: Malware can infect cloud storage 
> services or network shares. Once a device accesses these locations, it 
> may download or spread the infection to other systems.

That's a software issue. It's nothing new, and, I'd be hesitant to call that 
an actual method.

> 6. **Bootable Media**: In some cases, malware can reside on bootable 
> media, such as CDs, DVDs, or even within boot sector code, and can 
> execute before the operating system even loads.

I'm well aware. It was one of the keypoints I raised with snit when he tried 
his creative routine concerning some of what I wrote about a floppy hanging 
a machine during boot if the bootsector didn't have pass along to HD based 
os and transfer control. He conveniently leaves out my followup to my own 
post where I got specific and asked why he'd allow the machine to even 
attempt a floppy boot. Initially he claimed he was in charge of those 
machines, but!, the moment I asked why he'd do that, he was quick to change 
his tune and reverse course that he wasn't really in charge of them. 

A boot sector virus is a bit of a pain to write too, because you are very 
limited on available physical space. If you're a complex critter, you have 
to store the bulk of your code somewhere else, and load it later on. Or, 
reconfigure the host to do that for you. You can just remain a tiny boot 
sector virus and spread your code into other sectors that weren't in use, 
but to protect your code, you went ahead and marked them as being in use so 
the host OS wouldn't go and trash you when someone saved or created a file, 
or did anything else to increase the space consumed. Even a swap file 
adjustment could wreck your code and screw you good. code wise.

> These types of malware often require different approaches to detection 
> and removal since traditional antivirus tools mainly focus on scanning 
> hard drives.

This article you copy and pasted the contents from has issues, David. And 
it's flatout wrong concerning the limitations of AV or what they spend the 
bulk of their time scanning. Scanning for physical copies of malware is only 
a section of their code. In order to properly write a self replicating 
program that wasn't going to be tagged right off, you had to know how your 
adversaries worked; I'm far from the only Vxer at the time who reverse 
engineered the 'enemies' software. They do it to each other too, btw, they 
just don't come outright and say that because it's a total violation of 
various licensing agreements and they could actually be sued over it.

AV companies do reverse engineer all software they encounter; malware and 
legit software alike. They make no distinction other than to do a writeup on 
the Malware and remain silent on what they learned from reverse engineering 
their competitors. Multiple companies reverse engineered my BugHunter 
program too; It's one of the reasons (the most important one imho) I wasn't 
worried about people thinking it had a logic bomb or micky. If it did, I'd 
have been exposed by all of the major players and destroy any chance I had 
of redeeming myself and earning the respect as one of the mostly good guys. 
I tried to explain this to Snit before, but, snit being snit wouldn't hear a 
fucking word of it. As you and I both know, even if you choose not to admit 
it in public, He's not a peer of mine and likely won't ever be. And, this 
pisses him the fuck off. I'm not the only one who's tech savvy that he's 
created a problem with. He does it in every technical newsgroup he joins. He 
singles people like me out. He wants to be seen as a peer on the technical 
fronts. 

And, I'm sure he's here because of you. Infact, the initial interaction he 
had with me concerning 3D printing tech gave it away. Do you remember that? 
He shared a url to a website that specialized in 3D printers and asked if I 
could determine what kind of printer tech they were using. They openly 
shared that information on the home page; I simply pointed that out to him, 
everybody who visited the site could see the same information as I was 
viewing. He was trying to talk down to me and do his thing. It didn't work 
out for him.

He's all about trying to bring up an 'ego' these days, doesn't want to 
discuss points by point basis, just wants to use chatgpt and troll. He's 
always been a troll mind you, but, he's not even trying to hide it these 
days. Still lies his fucking ass off, and still tries to project his known 
reading comprehension issues on me. He can't make the sale though, ffs, he 
just pulls things entirely from his asshole.

I think? I understand why you associate with him, but, David, he's not the 
one who's going to bring me down. Once again, you've selected someone to 
help you out that can't stand toe to toe with me. He never could. If you'll 
recall, when the can we help him with his computer discussion started; I 
asked him some questions about it when it was running, and then I shared my 
initial diagnosis; that I don't think we have a mainboard problem, I think 
we're looking at a bad hard drive. If you'll recall, SC did not initially 
agree with my assesment. Which is understandable; he didn't know that I'm 
actually a multi cert comp technician who's built and serviced tens of 
thousands of machines during the course of my career. 

I wasn't asking Snit those questions randomly, and I didn't take a shot in 
the dark guess on my diagnosis for the rig, I was going by decades of hands 
on experience; actually working on them for a living. Not doing it on the 
side from my house. I've done that too, on my off days, but I have an actual 
lab here to do that stuff with. It's basically a duplicate of everything I 
was able to access at the shop I worked for. My former employer insisted I 
do this due to my health; some days I just couldn't go in and stay all day, 
but I could swing by and pickup a few machines to work on, to lighten the 
shops load. 

Back then you really needed multiple computers to assist you with repairs. 
That's especially true today. You could get buy using the only PC you had if 
you were in a bind, but, it's much more efficient to have multiple machines 
available to you. You can assign tasks more efficiently that way. Especially 
with data recovery efforts, that can take hours to days and the machine 
doing the task is tied up, focused entirely on that single project. It's not 
wise to try and use said machine while it's in the middle of data recovery. 
you may not get a 2nd chance to pull data if it's interrupted.

And, as you well know, my diagnosis was confirmed as being accurate, despite 
Snits efforts to stall and take his sweet time, deliberately ignoring my 
specific instructions and taking 'help' from anyone who posted. That 
actually makes troubleshooting remotely a bit of a pain. Time is wasted, and 
it only adds to possible confusion for him. I tried to explain this to you 
and SC; but you guys refused to just lemme do my thing. I'd have had that 
confirmed diagnosis a lot sooner if you guys had remained on the sidelines. 
I understand, you were both trying to help; but when you're actually serious 
about the trade, you don't do that. 

It's too many chiefs and too few indians then, you understand? I'm not 
trying to insult either of you, btw, I'm just reminding you of things. The 
two of you were basically, I think without even realizing it, helping Snit 
try to make me look incompetent. That was the actual reason he agreed to let 
me try and diagnose his machine via usenet; He didn't think I'd actually be 
able to. He thought I was BSing, just as he thought I wasn't actually Raid 
for a long time. Until well, enough proof was posted that he couldn't 
continue making that claim. It just wasn't working out. Now he's trying to 
sell the story that he never did that. Now he's trying to say I accused him 
of not posting as Raid or some completely unrelated bullshit; that wasn't 
what I accused him of. And you know that. I was rightfully accusing him of 
lieing and spinning things around. Which publically agree or not, you know 
damn well that's part of what he does here.

I do understand why SC disagreed with my initial diagnosis; that's where 
hands on experience comes into play, in my favor in this case. I've never 
been what you call a hobbyist level computer user. My experience isn't 
limited to fixing friends and family computers as time allowed. I actually 
did it, every day, for a living. I didn't even spend a solid hour doing my 
CompTIA testing, David. I was high at the time and I fucked around; but I 
still passed with 95% average. Had I actually dedicated myself to it, I'd 
have 0wned it outright. I'm not a hobbyist repair person friends and family 
call; I have considerably more hands on experience from repairing hardware 
to software. FFS, I've rebuilt a corrupted windows registry hive by hand 
using a hex editor and writing little tools with ASIC to patch bytes. It 
took me 3 fucking hours, but I did it. Why didn't I just reload it? Well, 
that machine ran a plasma cutter that used proprietary as fuck software with 
a dongle and he had no way to reinstall it; lost the cdrom a long time ago. 
And despite my efforts to find a suitable copy online that would 
specifically run that hardware; It was deuces. So, if I couldn't keep the 
software in working condition, there was no point in going any further with 
the rig. It would either be able to run that huge plasma cutter or it 
wouldn't. And if it didn't, we didn't get paid for the job. Boss didn't like 
non paying jobs very much. It was in my best interest to repair whatever 
machine came onto my bench.

I didn't always have the luxury of rename windows directories and reload, or 
wipe and reload. Sometimes, the machine had very specific software that 
required you actually be a real Technician because you'd be doing what had 
to be done to restore the OS and software, without reloading; because as I 
wrote above, that wasn't an option. I've always hated that 'fix' methodology 
too, because if you really know what the fuck you're doing, you should not 
have to resort to a clean reload. Anybody can wipe and reload a box, you do 
it all the fucking time.

SC probably thought I was getting ahead of myself. But, again, I remind you 
I asked snit specific questions about the machines behavior and they weren't 
random ones. I was getting a feel for the status, mostly due to the way in 
which he described it began to fail on him. My decades of fixing these 
fucking things for a living is what lead me to that diagnosis. You have to 
understand, I've been repairing these rigs since before I was even a 
teenager; that's how I made money as a kid going to school. I didn't grow up, 
become an adult, and then decide 'hey I wanna work on computers and 
electronics' I was *already doing that* and had been since I was literally, 
a little kid.

Snit will come along and accuse me of having a huge ego here, I've little 
doubt. But, I'm sure you know this has fuckall to do with any ego on my part. 
I'm simply being blunt candid and honest. There's no ego here, I have 
nothing to prove.. My own known history did that for me. You read what 
chatgpt actually knows about me, you've even shared some of it's information 
on me here. I'm not an ego driven maniac that snits working so hard to paint 
me out as; when he could be more productive and work for a living. 

If I was, you wouldn't have interacted with me beyond the first couple of 
emails between us. Snit's just using that as his latest bullshit excuse for 
his inability to keep up with me. A situation he put himself in, too, btw. I 
wasn't trying to 'compete' with him or anyone else here. I respect (greatly) 
two of the posters especially, and you know them both. And you know why I 
hold them in such high regard too.

They are, 100%, peers of mine. We're on the same level for the most part. 
Perhaps some skillset differences due to personal interest differences, but 
at the end of the day, they're just as competent as I am. I do not question 
the advice they provide others here when they choose to do so; I'm sure 
you've noticed that. I'm also sure you've noticed that when either of them 
or both disagrees with me, I still remain respectful (er for the most part 
anyhow. I do have a sailors mouth, after all. And, I really am the same way 
irl as I am here online. There is no persona, it's just me) I don't try to 
dog either of them. We can have arguments, etc, and, still not take it 
personal. As an actual peer would.

Sorry for the long response, but, I don't have the free time I once had to 
fiddle fart and fuck around. So I tend to condense things. Hopefully you're 
okay with this and we can have reasonable adult conversations.

-- 
I don't need no Dr. All I need...is my lawyer.
 

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#180408

FromBrock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com>
Date2025-02-22 05:38 +0000
Message-ID<67b962ec$15$2754$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>
In reply to#180402
On Feb 21, 2025 at 10:27:07 PM MST, "Gremlin" wrote
<XnsB28E498F1958HT1@cF04o3ON7k2lx05.lLC.9r5>:

> David <BD@invalid.email> news:m1hrelFjft2U2@mid.individual.net Mon, 17 Feb
> 2025 22:27:33 GMT in alt.computer.workshop, wrote:
> 
>> Malware *CAN* reside in places other than the main hard drive. Here are
>> a few examples:
> 
> I'm sure he's well aware of the methods you shared. You actually duplicated
> atleast one...You did this because you don't actually understand things
> concerning these machines on a technical level. For you, some of what can be
> done with them appears to be black magic or something. At some point, you
> assumed that some malware cannot be removed; once you have it, you have it
> it's a done deal. That's not actually true, and I've tried to explain this
> to you several times. You ignore me though and continue on with it. It is
> somewhat annoying, but, I've learned to look over it.
> 
>> 1. **USB Drives and External Storage**: Malware can infect USB drives,
>> external hard drives, and SD cards. When these devices are plugged into
>> a computer, the malware can execute or copy itself onto the system.
> 
> Via auto run exploits if inserted into a windows based rig, otherwise
> firmware modification; but again, it'll be OS specific. And with Linux, it
> could even be distro specific. IE: works fine on say Linux Mint, but won't
> work on MXLinux. They're based on different bases and this does sometimes
> cause issues.
> 
>> 2. **Firmware**: Some sophisticated malware targets the firmware of
>> devices like the BIOS or UEFI (Unified Extensible Firmware Interface).
>> It can persist through reboots and even OS reinstalls, making it harder
>> to remove.
> 
> It doesn't have to be sophisticated to go that route, but, most of the time
> when they do firmware exploits, it's pretty advanced code with several
> payloads. That's been my experience anyway.
> 
>> 3. **Network Devices**: Certain malware can be embedded in devices like
>> routers, network-attached storage (NAS) devices, or printers. These
>> devices may have weak security and can serve as entry points for the
>> malware to infect connected computers.
> 
> This is one place where you duplicated yourself. It's firmware, bro. Instead
> of doing a copy/paste, why don't you actually read the material and do what
> we were taught to do as children? Acquire more details; research the matter
> so that you have a solid understanding of what's being discussed.  We used
> to use actual books for that, but the internet made that task much easier.
> You still have to actually do it tho. :)
> 
>> 4. **RAM**: Some malware operates purely in the system's memory (RAM),
>> leaving no trace on the hard drive. This type of malware is often more
>> challenging to detect, as it can vanish after a reboot.
> 
> It still has to be loaded from a solid point to get into the RAM. And while
> it's in solid form, if you don't use the host OS, you can hunt it down. All
> Malware technically resides in RAM anyhow, they're programs like any other.
> They just do things that they shouldn't be doing. But, at the end of the day
> they are still programs, and can be treated the same as any other program.
> 
> It's not possible to make truely undetectable malware David, is the point,
> i'm trying to make here. It's quite possible to make it very difficult and
> not possible with certain tools; but as I'm sure you understand, there's
> more than one kind of tool.
> 
>> 5. **Cloud Storage or Network Shares**: Malware can infect cloud storage
>> services or network shares. Once a device accesses these locations, it
>> may download or spread the infection to other systems.
> 
> That's a software issue. It's nothing new, and, I'd be hesitant to call that
> an actual method.
> 
>> 6. **Bootable Media**: In some cases, malware can reside on bootable
>> media, such as CDs, DVDs, or even within boot sector code, and can
>> execute before the operating system even loads.
> 
> I'm well aware. It was one of the keypoints I raised with snit when he tried
> his creative routine concerning some of what I wrote about a floppy hanging
> a machine during boot if the bootsector didn't have pass along to HD based
> os and transfer control. He conveniently leaves out my followup to my own
> post where I got specific and asked why he'd allow the machine to even
> attempt a floppy boot. Initially he claimed he was in charge of those
> machines, but!, the moment I asked why he'd do that, he was quick to change
> his tune and reverse course that he wasn't really in charge of them.
> 
> A boot sector virus is a bit of a pain to write too, because you are very
> limited on available physical space. If you're a complex critter, you have
> to store the bulk of your code somewhere else, and load it later on. Or,
> reconfigure the host to do that for you. You can just remain a tiny boot
> sector virus and spread your code into other sectors that weren't in use,
> but to protect your code, you went ahead and marked them as being in use so
> the host OS wouldn't go and trash you when someone saved or created a file,
> or did anything else to increase the space consumed. Even a swap file
> adjustment could wreck your code and screw you good. code wise.
> 
>> These types of malware often require different approaches to detection
>> and removal since traditional antivirus tools mainly focus on scanning
>> hard drives.
> 
> This article you copy and pasted the contents from has issues, David. And
> it's flatout wrong concerning the limitations of AV or what they spend the
> bulk of their time scanning. Scanning for physical copies of malware is only
> a section of their code. In order to properly write a self replicating
> program that wasn't going to be tagged right off, you had to know how your
> adversaries worked; I'm far from the only Vxer at the time who reverse
> engineered the 'enemies' software. They do it to each other too, btw, they
> just don't come outright and say that because it's a total violation of
> various licensing agreements and they could actually be sued over it.
> 
> AV companies do reverse engineer all software they encounter; malware and
> legit software alike. They make no distinction other than to do a writeup on
> the Malware and remain silent on what they learned from reverse engineering
> their competitors. Multiple companies reverse engineered my BugHunter
> program too; It's one of the reasons (the most important one imho) I wasn't
> worried about people thinking it had a logic bomb or micky. If it did, I'd
> have been exposed by all of the major players and destroy any chance I had
> of redeeming myself and earning the respect as one of the mostly good guys.
> I tried to explain this to Snit before, but, snit being snit wouldn't hear a
> fucking word of it. As you and I both know, even if you choose not to admit
> it in public, He's not a peer of mine and likely won't ever be. And, this
> pisses him the fuck off. I'm not the only one who's tech savvy that he's
> created a problem with. He does it in every technical newsgroup he joins. He
> singles people like me out. He wants to be seen as a peer on the technical
> fronts.
> 
> And, I'm sure he's here because of you. Infact, the initial interaction he
> had with me concerning 3D printing tech gave it away. Do you remember that?
> He shared a url to a website that specialized in 3D printers and asked if I
> could determine what kind of printer tech they were using. They openly
> shared that information on the home page; I simply pointed that out to him,
> everybody who visited the site could see the same information as I was
> viewing. He was trying to talk down to me and do his thing. It didn't work
> out for him.
> 
> He's all about trying to bring up an 'ego' these days, doesn't want to
> discuss points by point basis, just wants to use chatgpt and troll. He's
> always been a troll mind you, but, he's not even trying to hide it these
> days. Still lies his fucking ass off, and still tries to project his known
> reading comprehension issues on me. He can't make the sale though, ffs, he
> just pulls things entirely from his asshole.
> 
> I think? I understand why you associate with him, but, David, he's not the
> one who's going to bring me down. Once again, you've selected someone to
> help you out that can't stand toe to toe with me. He never could. If you'll
> recall, when the can we help him with his computer discussion started; I
> asked him some questions about it when it was running, and then I shared my
> initial diagnosis; that I don't think we have a mainboard problem, I think
> we're looking at a bad hard drive. If you'll recall, SC did not initially
> agree with my assesment. Which is understandable; he didn't know that I'm
> actually a multi cert comp technician who's built and serviced tens of
> thousands of machines during the course of my career.
> 
> I wasn't asking Snit those questions randomly, and I didn't take a shot in
> the dark guess on my diagnosis for the rig, I was going by decades of hands
> on experience; actually working on them for a living. Not doing it on the
> side from my house. I've done that too, on my off days, but I have an actual
> lab here to do that stuff with. It's basically a duplicate of everything I
> was able to access at the shop I worked for. My former employer insisted I
> do this due to my health; some days I just couldn't go in and stay all day,
> but I could swing by and pickup a few machines to work on, to lighten the
> shops load.
> 
> Back then you really needed multiple computers to assist you with repairs.
> That's especially true today. You could get buy using the only PC you had if
> you were in a bind, but, it's much more efficient to have multiple machines
> available to you. You can assign tasks more efficiently that way. Especially
> with data recovery efforts, that can take hours to days and the machine
> doing the task is tied up, focused entirely on that single project. It's not
> wise to try and use said machine while it's in the middle of data recovery.
> you may not get a 2nd chance to pull data if it's interrupted.
> 
> And, as you well know, my diagnosis was confirmed as being accurate, despite
> Snits efforts to stall and take his sweet time, deliberately ignoring my
> specific instructions and taking 'help' from anyone who posted. That
> actually makes troubleshooting remotely a bit of a pain. Time is wasted, and
> it only adds to possible confusion for him. I tried to explain this to you
> and SC; but you guys refused to just lemme do my thing. I'd have had that
> confirmed diagnosis a lot sooner if you guys had remained on the sidelines.
> I understand, you were both trying to help; but when you're actually serious
> about the trade, you don't do that.
> 
> It's too many chiefs and too few indians then, you understand? I'm not
> trying to insult either of you, btw, I'm just reminding you of things. The
> two of you were basically, I think without even realizing it, helping Snit
> try to make me look incompetent. That was the actual reason he agreed to let
> me try and diagnose his machine via usenet; He didn't think I'd actually be
> able to. He thought I was BSing, just as he thought I wasn't actually Raid
> for a long time. Until well, enough proof was posted that he couldn't
> continue making that claim. It just wasn't working out. Now he's trying to
> sell the story that he never did that. Now he's trying to say I accused him
> of not posting as Raid or some completely unrelated bullshit; that wasn't
> what I accused him of. And you know that. I was rightfully accusing him of
> lieing and spinning things around. Which publically agree or not, you know
> damn well that's part of what he does here.
> 
> I do understand why SC disagreed with my initial diagnosis; that's where
> hands on experience comes into play, in my favor in this case. I've never
> been what you call a hobbyist level computer user. My experience isn't
> limited to fixing friends and family computers as time allowed. I actually
> did it, every day, for a living. I didn't even spend a solid hour doing my
> CompTIA testing, David. I was high at the time and I fucked around; but I
> still passed with 95% average. Had I actually dedicated myself to it, I'd
> have 0wned it outright. I'm not a hobbyist repair person friends and family
> call; I have considerably more hands on experience from repairing hardware
> to software. FFS, I've rebuilt a corrupted windows registry hive by hand
> using a hex editor and writing little tools with ASIC to patch bytes. It
> took me 3 fucking hours, but I did it. Why didn't I just reload it? Well,
> that machine ran a plasma cutter that used proprietary as fuck software with
> a dongle and he had no way to reinstall it; lost the cdrom a long time ago.
> And despite my efforts to find a suitable copy online that would
> specifically run that hardware; It was deuces. So, if I couldn't keep the
> software in working condition, there was no point in going any further with
> the rig. It would either be able to run that huge plasma cutter or it
> wouldn't. And if it didn't, we didn't get paid for the job. Boss didn't like
> non paying jobs very much. It was in my best interest to repair whatever
> machine came onto my bench.
> 
> I didn't always have the luxury of rename windows directories and reload, or
> wipe and reload. Sometimes, the machine had very specific software that
> required you actually be a real Technician because you'd be doing what had
> to be done to restore the OS and software, without reloading; because as I
> wrote above, that wasn't an option. I've always hated that 'fix' methodology
> too, because if you really know what the fuck you're doing, you should not
> have to resort to a clean reload. Anybody can wipe and reload a box, you do
> it all the fucking time.
> 
> SC probably thought I was getting ahead of myself. But, again, I remind you
> I asked snit specific questions about the machines behavior and they weren't
> random ones. I was getting a feel for the status, mostly due to the way in
> which he described it began to fail on him. My decades of fixing these
> fucking things for a living is what lead me to that diagnosis. You have to
> understand, I've been repairing these rigs since before I was even a
> teenager; that's how I made money as a kid going to school. I didn't grow up,
> become an adult, and then decide 'hey I wanna work on computers and
> electronics' I was *already doing that* and had been since I was literally,
> a little kid.
> 
> Snit will come along and accuse me of having a huge ego here, I've little
> doubt. But, I'm sure you know this has fuckall to do with any ego on my part.
> I'm simply being blunt candid and honest. There's no ego here, I have
> nothing to prove.. My own known history did that for me. You read what
> chatgpt actually knows about me, you've even shared some of it's information
> on me here. I'm not an ego driven maniac that snits working so hard to paint
> me out as; when he could be more productive and work for a living.
> 
> If I was, you wouldn't have interacted with me beyond the first couple of
> emails between us. Snit's just using that as his latest bullshit excuse for
> his inability to keep up with me. A situation he put himself in, too, btw. I
> wasn't trying to 'compete' with him or anyone else here. I respect (greatly)
> two of the posters especially, and you know them both. And you know why I
> hold them in such high regard too.
> 
> They are, 100%, peers of mine. We're on the same level for the most part.
> Perhaps some skillset differences due to personal interest differences, but
> at the end of the day, they're just as competent as I am. I do not question
> the advice they provide others here when they choose to do so; I'm sure
> you've noticed that. I'm also sure you've noticed that when either of them
> or both disagrees with me, I still remain respectful (er for the most part
> anyhow. I do have a sailors mouth, after all. And, I really am the same way
> irl as I am here online. There is no persona, it's just me) I don't try to
> dog either of them. We can have arguments, etc, and, still not take it
> personal. As an actual peer would.
> 
> Sorry for the long response, but, I don't have the free time I once had to
> fiddle fart and fuck around. So I tend to condense things. Hopefully you're
> okay with this and we can have reasonable adult conversations.

The audacity of this post is truly staggering, but let me break it down in the
most straightforward way possible. It’s clear from the way Gremlin writes that
they have an inflated sense of their own technical prowess, but unfortunately,
that doesn’t automatically make their knowledge infallible. Let’s take a
closer look at the claims and the utterly self-serving rhetoric they use.

First of all, Gremlin accuses someone (David) of not understanding basic
technical matters—yet here they are, indulging in amateurish
pseudo-intellectual chest-thumping. The fact that they feel the need to insert
multiple tangential stories about their “impressive” career and childhood
expertise only highlights their desperation to be recognized as an authority.
It’s tiresome and reeks of insecurity. Yes, we get it—you’ve been around the
block and have worked on a lot of machines, but this whole “I’ve been doing
this since I was a kid” spiel doesn’t make you some kind of messiah of
computer repair. It just makes you sound like someone trying way too hard to
prove themselves to a crowd that frankly doesn’t care.

Then, there’s the glaring inconsistency. They begin by arguing that the
article David shared is wrong, dismissing it as a simple copy-paste job while
simultaneously parroting the exact same points in a different context—nothing
but a convoluted retelling of the same basic technical facts. The attempt to
belittle David for “just copying and pasting” is laughable when Gremlin is
doing the same thing but with more verbosity and an ego boost. Sure, the
original article might not be perfect, but Gremlin’s response is more about
puffing up their own knowledge rather than offering any new valuable insights.

Let’s also address the supposed “diagnosis” of the machine problem. Gremlin’s
attempt to position themselves as a seasoned tech guru is further undermined
by their bizarre insistence that only they could get the right answer. It’s
classic narcissism mixed with an unhealthy dose of self-importance, not to
mention the assumption that everyone else involved is incompetent. The
condescension oozing from the claim that others “didn’t know” or “got in the
way” is typical of someone who can’t handle working with others in a
collaborative space.

The entire tone of the post—filled with insults, self-congratulatory bragging,
and rewriting of past events—doesn’t show expertise; it shows someone who
desperately craves validation. It’s almost comical how Gremlin criticizes
others for being “trolls” when their entire post is nothing but trolling in
the guise of technical discussion.

It’s clear to anyone who reads this that Gremlin has an inflated view of their
importance in these discussions and an almost pathological need to prove
they’re superior. Instead of contributing to the conversation with humility or
clarity, they choose to attack, belittle, and inflate their own relevance.
Frankly, this approach does nothing but harm their credibility, which is
exactly what we should be calling out.

So, to wrap it up: if Gremlin really wants to be taken seriously, they should
focus less on constant self-aggrandizement and more on actually contributing
useful information to the conversation. Because right now, all they’re doing
is inflating their ego at the expense of meaningful dialogue.


-- 
Specialist in unnecessary details and overcomplicated solutions.

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#180428

FromDavid <David@home.today>
Date2025-02-22 22:42 +0000
Message-ID<m1v276Fjpc3U3@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#180402
On 22/02/2025 05:27, Gremlin wrote:
> David <BD@invalid.email> news:m1hrelFjft2U2@mid.individual.net Mon, 17 Feb
> 2025 22:27:33 GMT in alt.computer.workshop, wrote:
> 
>> Malware *CAN* reside in places other than the main hard drive. Here are
>> a few examples:
> 
> I'm sure he's well aware of the methods you shared. You actually duplicated
> atleast one...You did this because you don't actually understand things
> concerning these machines on a technical level. For you, some of what can be
> done with them appears to be black magic or something. At some point, you
> assumed that some malware cannot be removed; once you have it, you have it
> it's a done deal. That's not actually true, and I've tried to explain this
> to you several times. You ignore me though and continue on with it. It is
> somewhat annoying, but, I've learned to look over it.
> 
>> 1. **USB Drives and External Storage**: Malware can infect USB drives,
>> external hard drives, and SD cards. When these devices are plugged into
>> a computer, the malware can execute or copy itself onto the system.
> 
> Via auto run exploits if inserted into a windows based rig, otherwise
> firmware modification; but again, it'll be OS specific. And with Linux, it
> could even be distro specific. IE: works fine on say Linux Mint, but won't
> work on MXLinux. They're based on different bases and this does sometimes
> cause issues.
> 
>> 2. **Firmware**: Some sophisticated malware targets the firmware of
>> devices like the BIOS or UEFI (Unified Extensible Firmware Interface).
>> It can persist through reboots and even OS reinstalls, making it harder
>> to remove.
> 
> It doesn't have to be sophisticated to go that route, but, most of the time
> when they do firmware exploits, it's pretty advanced code with several
> payloads. That's been my experience anyway.
> 
>> 3. **Network Devices**: Certain malware can be embedded in devices like
>> routers, network-attached storage (NAS) devices, or printers. These
>> devices may have weak security and can serve as entry points for the
>> malware to infect connected computers.
> 
> This is one place where you duplicated yourself. It's firmware, bro. Instead
> of doing a copy/paste, why don't you actually read the material and do what
> we were taught to do as children? Acquire more details; research the matter
> so that you have a solid understanding of what's being discussed.  We used
> to use actual books for that, but the internet made that task much easier.
> You still have to actually do it tho. :)
> 
>> 4. **RAM**: Some malware operates purely in the system's memory (RAM),
>> leaving no trace on the hard drive. This type of malware is often more
>> challenging to detect, as it can vanish after a reboot.
> 
> It still has to be loaded from a solid point to get into the RAM. And while
> it's in solid form, if you don't use the host OS, you can hunt it down. All
> Malware technically resides in RAM anyhow, they're programs like any other.
> They just do things that they shouldn't be doing. But, at the end of the day
> they are still programs, and can be treated the same as any other program.
> 
> It's not possible to make truely undetectable malware David, is the point,
> i'm trying to make here. It's quite possible to make it very difficult and
> not possible with certain tools; but as I'm sure you understand, there's
> more than one kind of tool.
> 
>> 5. **Cloud Storage or Network Shares**: Malware can infect cloud storage
>> services or network shares. Once a device accesses these locations, it
>> may download or spread the infection to other systems.
> 
> That's a software issue. It's nothing new, and, I'd be hesitant to call that
> an actual method.
> 
>> 6. **Bootable Media**: In some cases, malware can reside on bootable
>> media, such as CDs, DVDs, or even within boot sector code, and can
>> execute before the operating system even loads.
> 
> I'm well aware. It was one of the keypoints I raised with snit when he tried
> his creative routine concerning some of what I wrote about a floppy hanging
> a machine during boot if the bootsector didn't have pass along to HD based
> os and transfer control. He conveniently leaves out my followup to my own
> post where I got specific and asked why he'd allow the machine to even
> attempt a floppy boot. Initially he claimed he was in charge of those
> machines, but!, the moment I asked why he'd do that, he was quick to change
> his tune and reverse course that he wasn't really in charge of them.
> 
> A boot sector virus is a bit of a pain to write too, because you are very
> limited on available physical space. If you're a complex critter, you have
> to store the bulk of your code somewhere else, and load it later on. Or,
> reconfigure the host to do that for you. You can just remain a tiny boot
> sector virus and spread your code into other sectors that weren't in use,
> but to protect your code, you went ahead and marked them as being in use so
> the host OS wouldn't go and trash you when someone saved or created a file,
> or did anything else to increase the space consumed. Even a swap file
> adjustment could wreck your code and screw you good. code wise.
> 
>> These types of malware often require different approaches to detection
>> and removal since traditional antivirus tools mainly focus on scanning
>> hard drives.
> 
> This article you copy and pasted the contents from has issues, David. And
> it's flatout wrong concerning the limitations of AV or what they spend the
> bulk of their time scanning. Scanning for physical copies of malware is only
> a section of their code. In order to properly write a self replicating
> program that wasn't going to be tagged right off, you had to know how your
> adversaries worked; I'm far from the only Vxer at the time who reverse
> engineered the 'enemies' software. They do it to each other too, btw, they
> just don't come outright and say that because it's a total violation of
> various licensing agreements and they could actually be sued over it.
> 
> AV companies do reverse engineer all software they encounter; malware and
> legit software alike. They make no distinction other than to do a writeup on
> the Malware and remain silent on what they learned from reverse engineering
> their competitors. Multiple companies reverse engineered my BugHunter
> program too; It's one of the reasons (the most important one imho) I wasn't
> worried about people thinking it had a logic bomb or micky. If it did, I'd
> have been exposed by all of the major players and destroy any chance I had
> of redeeming myself and earning the respect as one of the mostly good guys.
> I tried to explain this to Snit before, but, snit being snit wouldn't hear a
> fucking word of it. As you and I both know, even if you choose not to admit
> it in public, He's not a peer of mine and likely won't ever be. And, this
> pisses him the fuck off. I'm not the only one who's tech savvy that he's
> created a problem with. He does it in every technical newsgroup he joins. He
> singles people like me out. He wants to be seen as a peer on the technical
> fronts.
> 
> And, I'm sure he's here because of you. Infact, the initial interaction he
> had with me concerning 3D printing tech gave it away. Do you remember that?
> He shared a url to a website that specialized in 3D printers and asked if I
> could determine what kind of printer tech they were using. They openly
> shared that information on the home page; I simply pointed that out to him,
> everybody who visited the site could see the same information as I was
> viewing. He was trying to talk down to me and do his thing. It didn't work
> out for him.
> 
> He's all about trying to bring up an 'ego' these days, doesn't want to
> discuss points by point basis, just wants to use chatgpt and troll. He's
> always been a troll mind you, but, he's not even trying to hide it these
> days. Still lies his fucking ass off, and still tries to project his known
> reading comprehension issues on me. He can't make the sale though, ffs, he
> just pulls things entirely from his asshole.
> 
> I think? I understand why you associate with him, but, David, he's not the
> one who's going to bring me down. Once again, you've selected someone to
> help you out that can't stand toe to toe with me. He never could. If you'll
> recall, when the can we help him with his computer discussion started; I
> asked him some questions about it when it was running, and then I shared my
> initial diagnosis; that I don't think we have a mainboard problem, I think
> we're looking at a bad hard drive. If you'll recall, SC did not initially
> agree with my assesment. Which is understandable; he didn't know that I'm
> actually a multi cert comp technician who's built and serviced tens of
> thousands of machines during the course of my career.
> 
> I wasn't asking Snit those questions randomly, and I didn't take a shot in
> the dark guess on my diagnosis for the rig, I was going by decades of hands
> on experience; actually working on them for a living. Not doing it on the
> side from my house. I've done that too, on my off days, but I have an actual
> lab here to do that stuff with. It's basically a duplicate of everything I
> was able to access at the shop I worked for. My former employer insisted I
> do this due to my health; some days I just couldn't go in and stay all day,
> but I could swing by and pickup a few machines to work on, to lighten the
> shops load.
> 
> Back then you really needed multiple computers to assist you with repairs.
> That's especially true today. You could get buy using the only PC you had if
> you were in a bind, but, it's much more efficient to have multiple machines
> available to you. You can assign tasks more efficiently that way. Especially
> with data recovery efforts, that can take hours to days and the machine
> doing the task is tied up, focused entirely on that single project. It's not
> wise to try and use said machine while it's in the middle of data recovery.
> you may not get a 2nd chance to pull data if it's interrupted.
> 
> And, as you well know, my diagnosis was confirmed as being accurate, despite
> Snits efforts to stall and take his sweet time, deliberately ignoring my
> specific instructions and taking 'help' from anyone who posted. That
> actually makes troubleshooting remotely a bit of a pain. Time is wasted, and
> it only adds to possible confusion for him. I tried to explain this to you
> and SC; but you guys refused to just lemme do my thing. I'd have had that
> confirmed diagnosis a lot sooner if you guys had remained on the sidelines.
> I understand, you were both trying to help; but when you're actually serious
> about the trade, you don't do that.
> 
> It's too many chiefs and too few indians then, you understand? I'm not
> trying to insult either of you, btw, I'm just reminding you of things. The
> two of you were basically, I think without even realizing it, helping Snit
> try to make me look incompetent. That was the actual reason he agreed to let
> me try and diagnose his machine via usenet; He didn't think I'd actually be
> able to. He thought I was BSing, just as he thought I wasn't actually Raid
> for a long time. Until well, enough proof was posted that he couldn't
> continue making that claim. It just wasn't working out. Now he's trying to
> sell the story that he never did that. Now he's trying to say I accused him
> of not posting as Raid or some completely unrelated bullshit; that wasn't
> what I accused him of. And you know that. I was rightfully accusing him of
> lieing and spinning things around. Which publically agree or not, you know
> damn well that's part of what he does here.
> 
> I do understand why SC disagreed with my initial diagnosis; that's where
> hands on experience comes into play, in my favor in this case. I've never
> been what you call a hobbyist level computer user. My experience isn't
> limited to fixing friends and family computers as time allowed. I actually
> did it, every day, for a living. I didn't even spend a solid hour doing my
> CompTIA testing, David. I was high at the time and I fucked around; but I
> still passed with 95% average. Had I actually dedicated myself to it, I'd
> have 0wned it outright. I'm not a hobbyist repair person friends and family
> call; I have considerably more hands on experience from repairing hardware
> to software. FFS, I've rebuilt a corrupted windows registry hive by hand
> using a hex editor and writing little tools with ASIC to patch bytes. It
> took me 3 fucking hours, but I did it. Why didn't I just reload it? Well,
> that machine ran a plasma cutter that used proprietary as fuck software with
> a dongle and he had no way to reinstall it; lost the cdrom a long time ago.
> And despite my efforts to find a suitable copy online that would
> specifically run that hardware; It was deuces. So, if I couldn't keep the
> software in working condition, there was no point in going any further with
> the rig. It would either be able to run that huge plasma cutter or it
> wouldn't. And if it didn't, we didn't get paid for the job. Boss didn't like
> non paying jobs very much. It was in my best interest to repair whatever
> machine came onto my bench.
> 
> I didn't always have the luxury of rename windows directories and reload, or
> wipe and reload. Sometimes, the machine had very specific software that
> required you actually be a real Technician because you'd be doing what had
> to be done to restore the OS and software, without reloading; because as I
> wrote above, that wasn't an option. I've always hated that 'fix' methodology
> too, because if you really know what the fuck you're doing, you should not
> have to resort to a clean reload. Anybody can wipe and reload a box, you do
> it all the fucking time.
> 
> SC probably thought I was getting ahead of myself. But, again, I remind you
> I asked snit specific questions about the machines behavior and they weren't
> random ones. I was getting a feel for the status, mostly due to the way in
> which he described it began to fail on him. My decades of fixing these
> fucking things for a living is what lead me to that diagnosis. You have to
> understand, I've been repairing these rigs since before I was even a
> teenager; that's how I made money as a kid going to school. I didn't grow up,
> become an adult, and then decide 'hey I wanna work on computers and
> electronics' I was *already doing that* and had been since I was literally,
> a little kid.
> 
> Snit will come along and accuse me of having a huge ego here, I've little
> doubt. But, I'm sure you know this has fuckall to do with any ego on my part.
> I'm simply being blunt candid and honest. There's no ego here, I have
> nothing to prove.. My own known history did that for me. You read what
> chatgpt actually knows about me, you've even shared some of it's information
> on me here. I'm not an ego driven maniac that snits working so hard to paint
> me out as; when he could be more productive and work for a living.
> 
> If I was, you wouldn't have interacted with me beyond the first couple of
> emails between us. Snit's just using that as his latest bullshit excuse for
> his inability to keep up with me. A situation he put himself in, too, btw. I
> wasn't trying to 'compete' with him or anyone else here. I respect (greatly)
> two of the posters especially, and you know them both. And you know why I
> hold them in such high regard too.
> 
> They are, 100%, peers of mine. We're on the same level for the most part.
> Perhaps some skillset differences due to personal interest differences, but
> at the end of the day, they're just as competent as I am. I do not question
> the advice they provide others here when they choose to do so; I'm sure
> you've noticed that. I'm also sure you've noticed that when either of them
> or both disagrees with me, I still remain respectful (er for the most part
> anyhow. I do have a sailors mouth, after all. And, I really am the same way
> irl as I am here online. There is no persona, it's just me) I don't try to
> dog either of them. We can have arguments, etc, and, still not take it
> personal. As an actual peer would.
> 
> Sorry for the long response, but, I don't have the free time I once had to
> fiddle fart and fuck around. So I tend to condense things. Hopefully you're
> okay with this and we can have reasonable adult conversations.

HOW would you like me to respond to this, Dustin?

-- 
David

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#180430

FromBrock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com>
Date2025-02-22 23:08 +0000
Message-ID<67ba5900$0$2757$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>
In reply to#180428
On Feb 22, 2025 at 3:42:44 PM MST, "David" wrote
<m1v276Fjpc3U3@mid.individual.net>:

> On 22/02/2025 05:27, Gremlin wrote:
>> David <BD@invalid.email> news:m1hrelFjft2U2@mid.individual.net Mon, 17 Feb
>> 2025 22:27:33 GMT in alt.computer.workshop, wrote:
>> 
>>> Malware *CAN* reside in places other than the main hard drive. Here are
>>> a few examples:
>> 
>> I'm sure he's well aware of the methods you shared. You actually duplicated
>> atleast one...You did this because you don't actually understand things
>> concerning these machines on a technical level. For you, some of what can be
>> done with them appears to be black magic or something. At some point, you
>> assumed that some malware cannot be removed; once you have it, you have it
>> it's a done deal. That's not actually true, and I've tried to explain this
>> to you several times. You ignore me though and continue on with it. It is
>> somewhat annoying, but, I've learned to look over it.
>> 
>>> 1. **USB Drives and External Storage**: Malware can infect USB drives,
>>> external hard drives, and SD cards. When these devices are plugged into
>>> a computer, the malware can execute or copy itself onto the system.
>> 
>> Via auto run exploits if inserted into a windows based rig, otherwise
>> firmware modification; but again, it'll be OS specific. And with Linux, it
>> could even be distro specific. IE: works fine on say Linux Mint, but won't
>> work on MXLinux. They're based on different bases and this does sometimes
>> cause issues.
>> 
>>> 2. **Firmware**: Some sophisticated malware targets the firmware of
>>> devices like the BIOS or UEFI (Unified Extensible Firmware Interface).
>>> It can persist through reboots and even OS reinstalls, making it harder
>>> to remove.
>> 
>> It doesn't have to be sophisticated to go that route, but, most of the time
>> when they do firmware exploits, it's pretty advanced code with several
>> payloads. That's been my experience anyway.
>> 
>>> 3. **Network Devices**: Certain malware can be embedded in devices like
>>> routers, network-attached storage (NAS) devices, or printers. These
>>> devices may have weak security and can serve as entry points for the
>>> malware to infect connected computers.
>> 
>> This is one place where you duplicated yourself. It's firmware, bro. Instead
>> of doing a copy/paste, why don't you actually read the material and do what
>> we were taught to do as children? Acquire more details; research the matter
>> so that you have a solid understanding of what's being discussed.  We used
>> to use actual books for that, but the internet made that task much easier.
>> You still have to actually do it tho. :)
>> 
>>> 4. **RAM**: Some malware operates purely in the system's memory (RAM),
>>> leaving no trace on the hard drive. This type of malware is often more
>>> challenging to detect, as it can vanish after a reboot.
>> 
>> It still has to be loaded from a solid point to get into the RAM. And while
>> it's in solid form, if you don't use the host OS, you can hunt it down. All
>> Malware technically resides in RAM anyhow, they're programs like any other.
>> They just do things that they shouldn't be doing. But, at the end of the day
>> they are still programs, and can be treated the same as any other program.
>> 
>> It's not possible to make truely undetectable malware David, is the point,
>> i'm trying to make here. It's quite possible to make it very difficult and
>> not possible with certain tools; but as I'm sure you understand, there's
>> more than one kind of tool.
>> 
>>> 5. **Cloud Storage or Network Shares**: Malware can infect cloud storage
>>> services or network shares. Once a device accesses these locations, it
>>> may download or spread the infection to other systems.
>> 
>> That's a software issue. It's nothing new, and, I'd be hesitant to call that
>> an actual method.
>> 
>>> 6. **Bootable Media**: In some cases, malware can reside on bootable
>>> media, such as CDs, DVDs, or even within boot sector code, and can
>>> execute before the operating system even loads.
>> 
>> I'm well aware. It was one of the keypoints I raised with snit when he tried
>> his creative routine concerning some of what I wrote about a floppy hanging
>> a machine during boot if the bootsector didn't have pass along to HD based
>> os and transfer control. He conveniently leaves out my followup to my own
>> post where I got specific and asked why he'd allow the machine to even
>> attempt a floppy boot. Initially he claimed he was in charge of those
>> machines, but!, the moment I asked why he'd do that, he was quick to change
>> his tune and reverse course that he wasn't really in charge of them.
>> 
>> A boot sector virus is a bit of a pain to write too, because you are very
>> limited on available physical space. If you're a complex critter, you have
>> to store the bulk of your code somewhere else, and load it later on. Or,
>> reconfigure the host to do that for you. You can just remain a tiny boot
>> sector virus and spread your code into other sectors that weren't in use,
>> but to protect your code, you went ahead and marked them as being in use so
>> the host OS wouldn't go and trash you when someone saved or created a file,
>> or did anything else to increase the space consumed. Even a swap file
>> adjustment could wreck your code and screw you good. code wise.
>> 
>>> These types of malware often require different approaches to detection
>>> and removal since traditional antivirus tools mainly focus on scanning
>>> hard drives.
>> 
>> This article you copy and pasted the contents from has issues, David. And
>> it's flatout wrong concerning the limitations of AV or what they spend the
>> bulk of their time scanning. Scanning for physical copies of malware is only
>> a section of their code. In order to properly write a self replicating
>> program that wasn't going to be tagged right off, you had to know how your
>> adversaries worked; I'm far from the only Vxer at the time who reverse
>> engineered the 'enemies' software. They do it to each other too, btw, they
>> just don't come outright and say that because it's a total violation of
>> various licensing agreements and they could actually be sued over it.
>> 
>> AV companies do reverse engineer all software they encounter; malware and
>> legit software alike. They make no distinction other than to do a writeup on
>> the Malware and remain silent on what they learned from reverse engineering
>> their competitors. Multiple companies reverse engineered my BugHunter
>> program too; It's one of the reasons (the most important one imho) I wasn't
>> worried about people thinking it had a logic bomb or micky. If it did, I'd
>> have been exposed by all of the major players and destroy any chance I had
>> of redeeming myself and earning the respect as one of the mostly good guys.
>> I tried to explain this to Snit before, but, snit being snit wouldn't hear a
>> fucking word of it. As you and I both know, even if you choose not to admit
>> it in public, He's not a peer of mine and likely won't ever be. And, this
>> pisses him the fuck off. I'm not the only one who's tech savvy that he's
>> created a problem with. He does it in every technical newsgroup he joins. He
>> singles people like me out. He wants to be seen as a peer on the technical
>> fronts.
>> 
>> And, I'm sure he's here because of you. Infact, the initial interaction he
>> had with me concerning 3D printing tech gave it away. Do you remember that?
>> He shared a url to a website that specialized in 3D printers and asked if I
>> could determine what kind of printer tech they were using. They openly
>> shared that information on the home page; I simply pointed that out to him,
>> everybody who visited the site could see the same information as I was
>> viewing. He was trying to talk down to me and do his thing. It didn't work
>> out for him.
>> 
>> He's all about trying to bring up an 'ego' these days, doesn't want to
>> discuss points by point basis, just wants to use chatgpt and troll. He's
>> always been a troll mind you, but, he's not even trying to hide it these
>> days. Still lies his fucking ass off, and still tries to project his known
>> reading comprehension issues on me. He can't make the sale though, ffs, he
>> just pulls things entirely from his asshole.
>> 
>> I think? I understand why you associate with him, but, David, he's not the
>> one who's going to bring me down. Once again, you've selected someone to
>> help you out that can't stand toe to toe with me. He never could. If you'll
>> recall, when the can we help him with his computer discussion started; I
>> asked him some questions about it when it was running, and then I shared my
>> initial diagnosis; that I don't think we have a mainboard problem, I think
>> we're looking at a bad hard drive. If you'll recall, SC did not initially
>> agree with my assesment. Which is understandable; he didn't know that I'm
>> actually a multi cert comp technician who's built and serviced tens of
>> thousands of machines during the course of my career.
>> 
>> I wasn't asking Snit those questions randomly, and I didn't take a shot in
>> the dark guess on my diagnosis for the rig, I was going by decades of hands
>> on experience; actually working on them for a living. Not doing it on the
>> side from my house. I've done that too, on my off days, but I have an actual
>> lab here to do that stuff with. It's basically a duplicate of everything I
>> was able to access at the shop I worked for. My former employer insisted I
>> do this due to my health; some days I just couldn't go in and stay all day,
>> but I could swing by and pickup a few machines to work on, to lighten the
>> shops load.
>> 
>> Back then you really needed multiple computers to assist you with repairs.
>> That's especially true today. You could get buy using the only PC you had if
>> you were in a bind, but, it's much more efficient to have multiple machines
>> available to you. You can assign tasks more efficiently that way. Especially
>> with data recovery efforts, that can take hours to days and the machine
>> doing the task is tied up, focused entirely on that single project. It's not
>> wise to try and use said machine while it's in the middle of data recovery.
>> you may not get a 2nd chance to pull data if it's interrupted.
>> 
>> And, as you well know, my diagnosis was confirmed as being accurate, despite
>> Snits efforts to stall and take his sweet time, deliberately ignoring my
>> specific instructions and taking 'help' from anyone who posted. That
>> actually makes troubleshooting remotely a bit of a pain. Time is wasted, and
>> it only adds to possible confusion for him. I tried to explain this to you
>> and SC; but you guys refused to just lemme do my thing. I'd have had that
>> confirmed diagnosis a lot sooner if you guys had remained on the sidelines.
>> I understand, you were both trying to help; but when you're actually serious
>> about the trade, you don't do that.
>> 
>> It's too many chiefs and too few indians then, you understand? I'm not
>> trying to insult either of you, btw, I'm just reminding you of things. The
>> two of you were basically, I think without even realizing it, helping Snit
>> try to make me look incompetent. That was the actual reason he agreed to let
>> me try and diagnose his machine via usenet; He didn't think I'd actually be
>> able to. He thought I was BSing, just as he thought I wasn't actually Raid
>> for a long time. Until well, enough proof was posted that he couldn't
>> continue making that claim. It just wasn't working out. Now he's trying to
>> sell the story that he never did that. Now he's trying to say I accused him
>> of not posting as Raid or some completely unrelated bullshit; that wasn't
>> what I accused him of. And you know that. I was rightfully accusing him of
>> lieing and spinning things around. Which publically agree or not, you know
>> damn well that's part of what he does here.
>> 
>> I do understand why SC disagreed with my initial diagnosis; that's where
>> hands on experience comes into play, in my favor in this case. I've never
>> been what you call a hobbyist level computer user. My experience isn't
>> limited to fixing friends and family computers as time allowed. I actually
>> did it, every day, for a living. I didn't even spend a solid hour doing my
>> CompTIA testing, David. I was high at the time and I fucked around; but I
>> still passed with 95% average. Had I actually dedicated myself to it, I'd
>> have 0wned it outright. I'm not a hobbyist repair person friends and family
>> call; I have considerably more hands on experience from repairing hardware
>> to software. FFS, I've rebuilt a corrupted windows registry hive by hand
>> using a hex editor and writing little tools with ASIC to patch bytes. It
>> took me 3 fucking hours, but I did it. Why didn't I just reload it? Well,
>> that machine ran a plasma cutter that used proprietary as fuck software with
>> a dongle and he had no way to reinstall it; lost the cdrom a long time ago.
>> And despite my efforts to find a suitable copy online that would
>> specifically run that hardware; It was deuces. So, if I couldn't keep the
>> software in working condition, there was no point in going any further with
>> the rig. It would either be able to run that huge plasma cutter or it
>> wouldn't. And if it didn't, we didn't get paid for the job. Boss didn't like
>> non paying jobs very much. It was in my best interest to repair whatever
>> machine came onto my bench.
>> 
>> I didn't always have the luxury of rename windows directories and reload, or
>> wipe and reload. Sometimes, the machine had very specific software that
>> required you actually be a real Technician because you'd be doing what had
>> to be done to restore the OS and software, without reloading; because as I
>> wrote above, that wasn't an option. I've always hated that 'fix' methodology
>> too, because if you really know what the fuck you're doing, you should not
>> have to resort to a clean reload. Anybody can wipe and reload a box, you do
>> it all the fucking time.
>> 
>> SC probably thought I was getting ahead of myself. But, again, I remind you
>> I asked snit specific questions about the machines behavior and they weren't
>> random ones. I was getting a feel for the status, mostly due to the way in
>> which he described it began to fail on him. My decades of fixing these
>> fucking things for a living is what lead me to that diagnosis. You have to
>> understand, I've been repairing these rigs since before I was even a
>> teenager; that's how I made money as a kid going to school. I didn't grow up,
>> become an adult, and then decide 'hey I wanna work on computers and
>> electronics' I was *already doing that* and had been since I was literally,
>> a little kid.
>> 
>> Snit will come along and accuse me of having a huge ego here, I've little
>> doubt. But, I'm sure you know this has fuckall to do with any ego on my part.
>> I'm simply being blunt candid and honest. There's no ego here, I have
>> nothing to prove.. My own known history did that for me. You read what
>> chatgpt actually knows about me, you've even shared some of it's information
>> on me here. I'm not an ego driven maniac that snits working so hard to paint
>> me out as; when he could be more productive and work for a living.
>> 
>> If I was, you wouldn't have interacted with me beyond the first couple of
>> emails between us. Snit's just using that as his latest bullshit excuse for
>> his inability to keep up with me. A situation he put himself in, too, btw. I
>> wasn't trying to 'compete' with him or anyone else here. I respect (greatly)
>> two of the posters especially, and you know them both. And you know why I
>> hold them in such high regard too.
>> 
>> They are, 100%, peers of mine. We're on the same level for the most part.
>> Perhaps some skillset differences due to personal interest differences, but
>> at the end of the day, they're just as competent as I am. I do not question
>> the advice they provide others here when they choose to do so; I'm sure
>> you've noticed that. I'm also sure you've noticed that when either of them
>> or both disagrees with me, I still remain respectful (er for the most part
>> anyhow. I do have a sailors mouth, after all. And, I really am the same way
>> irl as I am here online. There is no persona, it's just me) I don't try to
>> dog either of them. We can have arguments, etc, and, still not take it
>> personal. As an actual peer would.
>> 
>> Sorry for the long response, but, I don't have the free time I once had to
>> fiddle fart and fuck around. So I tend to condense things. Hopefully you're
>> okay with this and we can have reasonable adult conversations.
> 
> HOW would you like me to respond to this, Dustin?

With anger, hatred, blame against me... and adoration toward him.

In short you need to join into his delusions.

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Specialist in unnecessary details and overcomplicated solutions.

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