Re: Catalina is Out!

From	Andy Hewitt <thewildrover@icloud.com>
Newsgroups	uk.comp.sys.mac
Subject	Re: Catalina is Out!
Date	2019-10-10 18:01 +0100
Organization	A noiseless patient Spider
Message-ID	<qnno56$5nk$1@dont-email.me> (permalink)
References	(8 earlier) <091020191654566132%nospam@nospam.invalid> <qnlj76$tn$1@dont-email.me> <101020190744299910%nospam@nospam.invalid> <qnnfu9$i10$1@dont-email.me> <101020191135422296%nospam@nospam.invalid>

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On 10/10/2019 16:35, nospam wrote:
> In article <qnnfu9$i10$1@dont-email.me>, Andy Hewitt
> <thewildrover@icloud.com> wrote:
> 
>>
>>> iphones have a triple lens camera, from ultra-wide to telephoto, and
>>> the next ipad pros are rumoured to have the same setup.
>>
>> None of which really bothers me, my preference is to use a Nikon DSLR
>> with a selection of lenses and accessories.
> 
> you carry all of that everywhere you go, all the time?  didn't think so.

Not far off actually. It goes anywhere I think I might want to take 
pictures.

> the best camera is the one you have with you.

Indeed so.
> plus, modern smartphone cameras can do things no slr can do, notably
> post-capture refocus & depth of field adjustment, as well as night mode
> and easy panoramas without stitching.

Oh really. How about 5 frames per second Raw shooting at 14bit colour 
with optical stabilisation so I don't need to use refocus, or a decent 
sized sensor with lower noise characteristics rather than an over-driven 
pissy-sized sensor.

My DSLR has night mode too, as well as the user ability to set up the 
camera for any conditions.

I have no idea what your argument here is.

> pick the best tool for the job.

Yup, exactly.

>>> others prefer a laptop that is portable, or an ipad or iphone that runs
>>> a different operating system and even more portable than a laptop.
>>>
>>> all of them are computers.
>>
>> They are devices capable of computer tasks for sure. IMHO of course.
> 
> they are computers by every sense of the word.

Haha, OK, if you say so.

>>>>> an iphone or ipad fits in a pocket and can go anywhere, while a 27"
>>>>> display cannot.
>>>>
>>>> Indeed, that's why I also have an iPhone and an iPad (although I'd be a
>>>> bit pushed to get that into a pocket).
>>>
>>> ipads (or even laptops) easily fit in many jacket pockets, but if you
>>> don't mind looking like a dork, you can put it in a trouser pocket:
>>> <https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/18mgcoyypcodmjpg.jpg>
>>
>> Seriously. I have no jackets here that I could get my iPad into.
> 
> seriously? ipads don't need that much space.

I have one, yes they do. I don't think it would be generally bought as a 
'pocket' device. Perhaps an iPad Mini might just about, but the larger 
models, jeez.

-- 
Andy Hewitt

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Catalina is Out! Ian DALGLEISH <ianmethyl@gmail.com> - 2019-10-07 18:30 +0100
  Re: Catalina is Out! Alan B <alanrichardbarker@nospamgmail.com.here> - 2019-10-07 17:59 +0000
  Re: Catalina is Out! ~BD~ <BD@nomail.invalid> - 2019-10-07 23:04 +0100
  Re: Catalina is Out! deKay <andyk@lofi-gaming.org.uk> - 2019-10-08 07:23 +0100
    Re: Catalina is Out! Martin S Taylor <correspondence@mRaErMtOiVnEsTtHaIySlor.com> - 2019-10-08 09:36 +0100
  Re: Catalina is Out! Alan B <alanrichardbarker@nospamgmail.com.here> - 2019-10-08 07:18 +0000
    Re: Catalina is Out! ~BD~ <BD@nomail.invalid> - 2019-10-08 08:36 +0100
      Re: Catalina is Out! nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2019-10-08 07:14 -0400
        Re: Catalina is Out! deKay <andyk@lofi-gaming.org.uk> - 2019-10-08 14:53 +0100
          Re: Catalina is Out! Jaimie Vandenbergh <jaimie@sometimes.sessile.org> - 2019-10-08 14:55 +0100
          Re: Catalina is Out! nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2019-10-08 09:57 -0400
            Re: Catalina is Out! deKay <andyk@lofi-gaming.org.uk> - 2019-10-08 16:04 +0100
              Re: Catalina is Out! nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2019-10-08 11:25 -0400
                Re: Catalina is Out! Ian McCall <ian@eruvia.org> - 2019-10-08 16:35 +0100
                Re: Catalina is Out! nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2019-10-08 12:14 -0400
                Re: Catalina is Out! richard@cogsci.ed.ac.uk (Richard Tobin) - 2019-10-08 16:28 +0000
                Re: Catalina is Out! nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2019-10-08 12:36 -0400
                Re: Catalina is Out! whisky-dave <whisky.dave@gmail.com> - 2019-10-09 03:42 -0700
                Re: Catalina is Out! Jaimie Vandenbergh <jaimie@sometimes.sessile.org> - 2019-10-08 17:21 +0100
                Re: Catalina is Out! Ian McCall <ian@eruvia.org> - 2019-10-08 17:44 +0100
                Boxer 64 bit (was Re: Catalina is Out!) Ian McCall <ian@eruvia.org> - 2019-10-08 18:19 +0100
                Re: Boxer 64 bit (was Re: Catalina is Out!) Jaimie Vandenbergh <jaimie@sometimes.sessile.org> - 2019-10-09 01:12 +0100
                Re: Boxer 64 bit (was Re: Catalina is Out!) deKay <andyk@lofi-gaming.org.uk> - 2019-10-09 11:48 +0100
                Re: Catalina is Out! deKay <andyk@lofi-gaming.org.uk> - 2019-10-09 11:24 +0100
                Re: Catalina is Out! deKay <andyk@lofi-gaming.org.uk> - 2019-10-09 11:25 +0100
        Re: Catalina is Out! Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2019-10-08 08:15 -0700
          Re: Catalina is Out! nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2019-10-08 11:25 -0400
            Re: Catalina is Out! Sidney Carton <SC@gmail.invalid> - 2019-10-08 16:41 +0100
              Re: Catalina is Out! Fred <fredbare@[127.0.0.1]> - 2019-10-08 17:06 +0100
              Re: Catalina is Out! Jaimie Vandenbergh <jaimie@sometimes.sessile.org> - 2019-10-08 17:08 +0100
              Re: Catalina is Out! nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2019-10-08 12:14 -0400
                Re: Catalina is Out! ~BD~ <BD@nomail.invalid> - 2019-10-08 20:42 +0100
                Re: Catalina is Out! nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2019-10-08 16:06 -0400
                Mistaken ID (was - Catalina is Out!) ~BD~ <BD@nomail.invalid> - 2019-10-08 21:15 +0100
                Re: Mistaken ID (was - Catalina is Out!) ~BD~ <BD@nomail.afraid.org> - 2019-10-13 11:43 +0100
                Re: Catalina is Out! whisky-dave <whisky.dave@gmail.com> - 2019-10-09 03:50 -0700
                Re: Catalina is Out! ~BD~ <BD@nomail.invalid> - 2019-10-09 12:46 +0100
              Re: Catalina is Out! Panthera Tigris Altaica <northerntiger@outlook.com> - 2019-10-09 14:52 -0400
                Re: Catalina is Out! ~BD~ <BD@nomail.invalid> - 2019-10-09 19:57 +0100
                Re: Catalina is Out! Panthera Tigris Altaica <northerntiger@outlook.com> - 2019-10-09 16:26 -0400
                Re: Catalina is Out! nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2019-10-09 15:04 -0400
          Re: Catalina is Out! Alan  B <alanrichardbarker@nospamgmail.com.here> - 2019-10-08 15:48 +0000
          Re: Catalina is Out! Alan B <alanrichardbarker@nospamgmail.com.here> - 2019-10-08 19:55 +0000
            Re: Catalina is Out! Alan B <alanrichardbarker@nospamgmail.com.here> - 2019-10-12 08:56 +0000
              Re: Catalina is Out! Alan B <alanrichardbarker@nospamgmail.com.here> - 2019-10-12 09:13 +0000
                Re: Catalina is Out! Alan B <alanrichardbarker@nospamgmail.com.here> - 2019-10-13 10:50 +0000
      Re: Catalina is Out! Panthera Tigris Altaica <northerntiger@outlook.com> - 2019-10-08 16:46 -0400
        Re: Catalina is Out! ~BD~ <BD@nomail.invalid> - 2019-10-08 22:07 +0100
          Re: Catalina is Out! Panthera Tigris Altaica <northerntiger@outlook.com> - 2019-10-08 17:35 -0400
            Re: Catalina is Out! ~BD~ <BD@nomail.invalid> - 2019-10-09 13:02 +0100
              Re: Catalina is Out! Panthera Tigris Altaica <northerntiger@outlook.com> - 2019-10-09 16:27 -0400
          Re: Catalina is Out! Andy Hewitt <thewildrover@icloud.com> - 2019-10-09 18:31 +0100
            Re: Catalina is Out! nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2019-10-09 14:17 -0400
              Re: Catalina is Out! Andy Hewitt <thewildrover@icloud.com> - 2019-10-09 21:26 +0100
                Re: Catalina is Out! nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2019-10-09 16:54 -0400
                Re: Catalina is Out! Andy Hewitt <thewildrover@icloud.com> - 2019-10-09 22:24 +0100
                Re: Catalina is Out! nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2019-10-10 07:44 -0400
                Re: Catalina is Out! whisky-dave <whisky.dave@gmail.com> - 2019-10-10 05:50 -0700
                Re: Catalina is Out! Andy Hewitt <thewildrover@icloud.com> - 2019-10-10 15:41 +0100
                Re: Catalina is Out! nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2019-10-10 11:35 -0400
                Re: Catalina is Out! Graeme Wall <rail@greywall.demon.co.uk> - 2019-10-10 17:52 +0100
                Re: Catalina is Out! nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2019-10-10 12:55 -0400
                Re: Catalina is Out! whisky-dave <whisky.dave@gmail.com> - 2019-10-11 02:46 -0700
                Re: Catalina is Out! Graeme Wall <rail@greywall.demon.co.uk> - 2019-10-11 11:28 +0100
                Re: Catalina is Out! Sara Merriman <saramerriman@blueyonder.co.uk> - 2019-10-11 12:04 +0100
                Re: Catalina is Out! Mark <captain.black@gmail.com> - 2019-10-11 13:03 +0100
                Re: Catalina is Out! whisky-dave <whisky.dave@gmail.com> - 2019-10-11 05:05 -0700
                Re: Catalina is Out! Graeme Wall <rail@greywall.demon.co.uk> - 2019-10-11 13:09 +0100
                Re: Catalina is Out! Andy Hewitt <thewildrover@icloud.com> - 2019-10-10 18:01 +0100
                Re: Catalina is Out! nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2019-10-10 13:15 -0400
                Re: Catalina is Out! Alan B <alanrichardbarker@nospamgmail.com.here> - 2019-10-10 18:36 +0000
                Re: Catalina is Out! Jaimie Vandenbergh <jaimie@sometimes.sessile.org> - 2019-10-10 20:24 +0100
                Re: Catalina is Out! RJH <patchmoney@gmx.com> - 2019-10-11 06:11 +0100
                Re: Catalina is Out! whisky-dave <whisky.dave@gmail.com> - 2019-10-11 03:17 -0700
                Re: Catalina is Out! Andy Hewitt <thewildrover@icloud.com> - 2019-10-11 16:45 +0100
              Re: Catalina is Out! whisky-dave <whisky.dave@gmail.com> - 2019-10-10 04:20 -0700
                Re: Catalina is Out! ~BD~ <BD@nomail.invalid> - 2019-10-10 12:46 +0100
                Re: Catalina is Out! Andy Hewitt <thewildrover@icloud.com> - 2019-10-10 15:34 +0100
                Re: Catalina is Out! whisky-dave <whisky.dave@gmail.com> - 2019-10-10 08:07 -0700
                Re: Catalina is Out! Andy Hewitt <thewildrover@icloud.com> - 2019-10-10 16:18 +0100
                Re: Catalina is Out! whisky-dave <whisky.dave@gmail.com> - 2019-10-11 02:40 -0700
                Re: Catalina is Out! Andy Hewitt <thewildrover@icloud.com> - 2019-10-11 16:40 +0100
                Re: Catalina is Out! whisky-dave <whisky.dave@gmail.com> - 2019-10-11 09:03 -0700
                Re: Catalina is Out! Andy Hewitt <thewildrover@icloud.com> - 2019-10-11 17:13 +0100
                Re: Catalina is Out! whisky-dave <whisky.dave@gmail.com> - 2019-10-14 03:04 -0700
                Re: Catalina is Out! Andy Hewitt <thewildrover@icloud.com> - 2019-10-14 16:07 +0100
                Re: Catalina is Out! Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2019-10-14 08:14 -0700
                Re: Catalina is Out! Andy Hewitt <thewildrover@icloud.com> - 2019-10-14 20:23 +0100
                Re: Catalina is Out! Alan B <alanrichardbarker@nospamgmail.com.here> - 2019-10-14 20:32 +0100
                Catalina is Out! ~BD~ <BD@nomail.afraid.org> - 2019-10-14 17:31 +0100
                Re: Catalina is Out! Andy Hewitt <thewildrover@icloud.com> - 2019-10-14 20:24 +0100
                Re: Catalina is Out! ~BD~ <BD@nomail.afraid.org> - 2019-10-14 20:29 +0100
                Re: Catalina is Out! Andy Hewitt <thewildrover@icloud.com> - 2019-10-14 21:44 +0100
                Re: Catalina is Out! Alan  B <alanrichardbarker@nospamgmail.com.here> - 2019-10-14 20:49 +0000
                Re: Catalina is Out! Andy Hewitt <thewildrover@icloud.com> - 2019-10-14 22:05 +0100
                Re: Catalina is Out! Alan  B <alanrichardbarker@nospamgmail.com.here> - 2019-10-14 21:26 +0000
                Re: Catalina is Out! ~BD~ <BD@nomail.afraid.org> - 2019-10-14 23:39 +0100
                Re: Catalina is Out! Graeme Wall <rail@greywall.demon.co.uk> - 2019-10-11 17:48 +0100
                Re: Catalina is Out! Graeme Wall <rail@greywall.demon.co.uk> - 2019-10-10 16:29 +0100
            Re: Catalina is Out! ~BD~ <BD@nomail.invalid> - 2019-10-09 22:33 +0100
            Re: Catalina is Out! whisky-dave <whisky.dave@gmail.com> - 2019-10-10 04:14 -0700
              Re: Catalina is Out! Graeme Wall <rail@greywall.demon.co.uk> - 2019-10-10 12:25 +0100
                Re: Catalina is Out! whisky-dave <whisky.dave@gmail.com> - 2019-10-10 04:37 -0700
                Re: Catalina is Out! nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2019-10-10 07:44 -0400
                Re: Catalina is Out! Graeme Wall <rail@greywall.demon.co.uk> - 2019-10-10 12:46 +0100
              Re: Catalina is Out! Andy Hewitt <thewildrover@icloud.com> - 2019-10-10 15:28 +0100
        Re: Catalina is Out! whisky-dave <whisky.dave@gmail.com> - 2019-10-09 04:06 -0700
          Re: Catalina is Out! nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2019-10-09 07:09 -0400
            Re: Catalina is Out! ~BD~ <BD@nomail.invalid> - 2019-10-09 12:50 +0100
              Re: Catalina is Out! nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2019-10-09 07:58 -0400
                Re: Catalina is Out! ~BD~ <BD@nomail.invalid> - 2019-10-09 13:05 +0100
                Re: Catalina is Out! whisky-dave <whisky.dave@gmail.com> - 2019-10-09 08:33 -0700
                Re: Catalina is Out! nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2019-10-09 12:17 -0400
                Re: Catalina is Out! whisky-dave <whisky.dave@gmail.com> - 2019-10-10 04:08 -0700
                Re: Catalina is Out! nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2019-10-10 07:44 -0400
                Re: Catalina is Out! Panthera Tigris Altaica <northerntiger@outlook.com> - 2019-10-11 10:48 -0400
                Re: Catalina is Out! whisky-dave <whisky.dave@gmail.com> - 2019-10-11 08:45 -0700
                Re: Catalina is Out! ~BD~ <BD@nomail.invalid> - 2019-10-11 20:01 +0100
                Re: Catalina is Out! nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2019-10-11 11:49 -0400
                Re: Catalina is Out! whisky-dave <whisky.dave@gmail.com> - 2019-10-14 02:50 -0700
                Re: Catalina is Out! richard@cogsci.ed.ac.uk (Richard Tobin) - 2019-10-11 15:51 +0000
                Re: Catalina is Out! nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2019-10-11 12:15 -0400
                Re: Catalina is Out! Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2019-10-09 09:25 -0700
                Re: Catalina is Out! ~BD~ <BD@nomail.invalid> - 2019-10-09 22:39 +0100
          Re: Catalina is Out! Jaimie Vandenbergh <jaimie@sometimes.sessile.org> - 2019-10-09 17:03 +0100
            Re: Catalina is Out! whisky-dave <whisky.dave@gmail.com> - 2019-10-10 03:58 -0700
              Re: Catalina is Out! nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2019-10-10 07:44 -0400
                Re: Catalina is Out! whisky-dave <whisky.dave@gmail.com> - 2019-10-10 05:52 -0700
          Re: Catalina is Out! Panthera Tigris Altaica <northerntiger@outlook.com> - 2019-10-09 16:39 -0400
            Re: Catalina is Out! whisky-dave <whisky.dave@gmail.com> - 2019-10-10 04:34 -0700
              Re: Catalina is Out! Panthera Tigris Altaica <northerntiger@outlook.com> - 2019-10-10 16:28 -0400
                Re: Catalina is Out! whisky-dave <whisky.dave@gmail.com> - 2019-10-11 03:20 -0700
                Re: Catalina is Out! Panthera Tigris Altaica <northerntiger@outlook.com> - 2019-10-11 10:02 -0400
                Re: Catalina is Out! whisky-dave <whisky.dave@gmail.com> - 2019-10-11 08:41 -0700
                Re: Catalina is Out! ~BD~ <BD@nomail.invalid> - 2019-10-11 20:12 +0100
                Re: Catalina is Out! Panthera Tigris Altaica <northerntiger@outlook.com> - 2019-10-11 16:31 -0400
                Re: Catalina is Out! ~BD~ <BD@nomail.invalid> - 2019-10-11 21:54 +0100
                Re: Catalina is Out! ~BD~ <BD@nomail.afraid.org> - 2019-10-15 10:51 +0100
                Re: Catalina is Out! nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2019-10-11 19:42 -0400
                Re: Catalina is Out! RJH <patchmoney@gmx.com> - 2019-10-12 15:11 +0100
                Re: Catalina is Out! ~BD~ <Bo@ter.nomail.invalid> - 2019-10-12 16:34 +0100
                Re: Catalina is Out! Panthera Tigris Altaica <northerntiger@outlook.com> - 2019-10-16 13:07 -0400
  Re: Catalina is Out! Ian DALGLEISH <ianmethyl@gmail.com> - 2019-10-08 09:09 +0100
    Re: Catalina is Out! Martin S Taylor <correspondence@mRaErMtOiVnEsTtHaIySlor.com> - 2019-10-08 09:41 +0100
      Re: Catalina is Out! Ian DALGLEISH <ianmethyl@gmail.com> - 2019-10-08 10:25 +0100
    Re: Catalina is Out! Alan B <alanrichardbarker@nospamgmail.com.here> - 2019-10-08 09:03 +0000
      Re: Catalina is Out! Ian DALGLEISH <ianmethyl@gmail.com> - 2019-10-08 10:23 +0100
        Re: Catalina is Out! Alan  B <alanrichardbarker@nospamgmail.com.here> - 2019-10-08 10:13 +0000
          Re: Catalina is Out! Ian DALGLEISH <ianmethyl@gmail.com> - 2019-10-08 13:34 +0100
            Re: Catalina is Out! Ian McCall <ian@eruvia.org> - 2019-10-08 14:29 +0100
            Re: Catalina is Out! Jaimie Vandenbergh <jaimie@sometimes.sessile.org> - 2019-10-08 14:53 +0100
  Re: Catalina is Out! Jaimie Vandenbergh <jaimie@sometimes.sessile.org> - 2019-10-09 00:26 +0100
    Re: Catalina is Out! Jaimie Vandenbergh <jaimie@sometimes.sessile.org> - 2019-10-09 01:13 +0100
    Re: Catalina is Out! nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2019-10-08 19:33 -0400
    Re: Catalina is Out! Andy Hewitt <thewildrover@icloud.com> - 2019-10-09 18:32 +0100
      Re: Catalina is Out! Jaimie Vandenbergh <jaimie@sometimes.sessile.org> - 2019-10-09 19:31 +0100
        Re: Catalina is Out! Alan B <alanrichardbarker@nospamgmail.com.here> - 2019-10-09 19:05 +0000
          Re: Catalina is Out! nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2019-10-09 15:09 -0400
            Re: Catalina is Out! Alan B <alanrichardbarker@nospamgmail.com.here> - 2019-10-09 19:13 +0000
              Re: Catalina is Out! nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2019-10-09 15:18 -0400
  Re: Catalina is Out! Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2019-10-08 18:10 +0100
  Re: Catalina is Out! Mark <captain.black@gmail.com> - 2019-10-16 22:15 +0000
    Re: Catalina is Out! whisky-dave <whisky.dave@gmail.com> - 2019-10-17 05:05 -0700
      Re: Catalina is Out! Mark <captain.black@gmail.com> - 2019-10-17 12:09 +0000

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