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| First post | 2015-12-20 17:27 -0600 |
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Should We Colonize Venus Instead of Mars? | Space Time | PBS Digital Studios Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-12-20 17:27 -0600
Re: Should We Colonize Venus Instead of Mars? | Space Time | PBS Digital Studios jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-12-20 23:50 +0000
Re: Should We Colonize Venus Instead of Mars? | Space Time | PBS Digital Studios chanB4 <invalid@invalid.com> - 2015-12-20 18:55 -0600
Re: Should We Colonize Venus Instead of Mars? | Space Time | PBS Digital Studios HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2015-12-21 16:17 -0800
Re: Should We Colonize Venus Instead of Mars? | Space Time | PBS Digital Studios Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2015-12-20 20:58 -0600
Re: Should We Colonize Venus Instead of Mars? | Space Time | PBS Digital Studios Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> - 2015-12-21 04:06 -0500
Re: Should We Colonize Venus Instead of Mars? | Space Time | PBS Digital Studios "reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2015-12-21 14:13 -0800
Re: Should We Colonize Venus Instead of Mars? | Space Time | PBS Digital Studios Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-12-21 16:14 -0600
Re: Should We Colonize Venus Instead of Mars? | Space Time | PBS Digital Studios jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-12-21 22:22 +0000
Re: Should We Colonize Venus Instead of Mars? | Space Time | PBS Digital Studios "reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2015-12-22 13:59 -0800
Re: Should We Colonize Venus Instead of Mars? | Space Time | PBS Digital Studios Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-12-22 16:13 -0600
Re: Should We Colonize Venus Instead of Mars? | Space Time | PBS Digital Studios jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-12-22 23:29 +0000
Re: Should We Colonize Venus Instead of Mars? | Space Time | PBS Digital Studios Raymond Yohros <bat@birdband.net> - 2015-12-21 18:45 -0800
Re: Should We Colonize Venus Instead of Mars? | Space Time | PBS Digital Studios jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-12-22 03:30 +0000
Re: Should We Colonize Venus Instead of Mars? | Space Time | PBS Digital Studios Raymond Yohros <bat@birdband.net> - 2015-12-22 11:50 -0800
Re: Should We Colonize Venus Instead of Mars? | Space Time | PBS Digital Studios jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-12-22 20:10 +0000
Re: Should We Colonize Venus Instead of Mars? | Space Time | PBS Digital Studios Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-12-21 22:39 -0600
Re: Should We Colonize Venus Instead of Mars? | Space Time | PBS Digital Studios jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-12-22 06:02 +0000
Re: Should We Colonize Venus Instead of Mars? | Space Time | PBS Digital Studios Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-12-22 12:18 -0600
Re: Should We Colonize Venus Instead of Mars? | Space Time | PBS Digital Studios jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-12-22 18:49 +0000
Re: Should We Colonize Venus Instead of Mars? | Space Time | PBS Digital Studios Raymond Yohros <bat@birdband.net> - 2015-12-22 11:35 -0800
Re: Should We Colonize Venus Instead of Mars? | Space Time | PBS Digital Studios jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-12-22 19:54 +0000
Re: Should We Colonize Venus Instead of Mars? | Space Time | PBS Digital Studios "reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2015-12-22 13:15 -0800
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| From | Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-12-20 17:27 -0600 |
| Subject | Should We Colonize Venus Instead of Mars? | Space Time | PBS Digital Studios |
| Message-ID | <QcednZ0EhvvBpOrLnZ2dnUU7-fWdnZ2d@giganews.com> |
Should We Colonize Venus Instead of Mars? | Space Time | PBS Digital Studios > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gJ5KV3rzuag > Mars One. The Mars Rover. Bruno Mars. Mars Bars. It's pretty clear > we're OBSESSED with the idea of Mars, especially in regard to it > being a potential colony for earthlings. But is that really the best > option? Is there a better place for us to colonize in our solar > system? Well, how about Venus? Sure the surface temperature is over > 450 degrees Celsius, with crazy pressure, but there might be a smart > way around that, making Venus a better option for long term > colonization than Mars! How? Watch this week's episode of SpaceTime > and find out! -- sci.physics is an unmoderated newsgroup dedicated to the discussion of physics, news from the physics community, and physics-related social issues.
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| From | jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com |
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| Date | 2015-12-20 23:50 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <9frjkc-n7a.ln1@mail.specsol.com> |
| In reply to | #540482 |
Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> wrote: > Should We Colonize Venus Instead of Mars? | Space Time | PBS Digital > Studios >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gJ5KV3rzuag > >> Mars One. The Mars Rover. Bruno Mars. Mars Bars. It's pretty clear >> we're OBSESSED with the idea of Mars, especially in regard to it >> being a potential colony for earthlings. But is that really the best >> option? Is there a better place for us to colonize in our solar >> system? Well, how about Venus? Sure the surface temperature is over >> 450 degrees Celsius, with crazy pressure, but there might be a smart >> way around that, making Venus a better option for long term >> colonization than Mars! How? Watch this week's episode of SpaceTime >> and find out! Colonization of either with current technology is an immensely stupid idea. If you want to colonize a barren area hostile to human life, colonize Antarctica; at least there is air and water and relatively easy going home once you smarten up. -- Jim Pennino
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| From | chanB4 <invalid@invalid.com> |
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| Date | 2015-12-20 18:55 -0600 |
| Message-ID | <n57imf$tqr$1@speranza.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #540482 |
On 12/20/2015 5:27 PM, Sam Wormley wrote: > Should We Colonize Venus Instead of Mars? | Space Time | PBS Digital > Studios >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gJ5KV3rzuag > >> Mars One. The Mars Rover. Bruno Mars. Mars Bars. It's pretty clear >> we're OBSESSED with the idea of Mars, especially in regard to it >> being a potential colony for earthlings. But is that really the best >> option? Is there a better place for us to colonize in our solar >> system? Well, how about Venus? Sure the surface temperature is over >> 450 degrees Celsius, with crazy pressure, but there might be a smart >> way around that, making Venus a better option for long term >> colonization than Mars! How? Watch this week's episode of SpaceTime >> and find out! > Colonize the poor countries on Earth, bring them FOOD, Shelter, WATER, Medical help. FCK Venus, FCK Mars.
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| From | HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-12-21 16:17 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <994adf9b-1437-4439-a8bc-8104d331720f@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #540506 |
Colonize the poor countries on Earth, bring them FOOD, Shelter, WATER, Medical help. FCK Venus, FCK Mars. --------- Pass out some nice blankets too...
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| From | Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> |
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| Date | 2015-12-20 20:58 -0600 |
| Message-ID | <n57pt4$at4$1@speranza.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #540482 |
On 12/20/2015 5:27 PM, Sam Wormley wrote: > Should We Colonize Venus Instead of Mars? | Space Time | PBS Digital > Studios >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gJ5KV3rzuag > >> Mars One. The Mars Rover. Bruno Mars. Mars Bars. It's pretty clear >> we're OBSESSED with the idea of Mars, especially in regard to it >> being a potential colony for earthlings. But is that really the best >> option? Is there a better place for us to colonize in our solar >> system? Well, how about Venus? Sure the surface temperature is over >> 450 degrees Celsius, with crazy pressure, but there might be a smart >> way around that, making Venus a better option for long term >> colonization than Mars! How? Watch this week's episode of SpaceTime >> and find out! > Yes We should colonize Mars, We can send up our best Men and Womens, to have Mars babies of course the high radiation levels will keep them underground 95% of the time. and the radiation levels will slowly make them blind, and lose intellegence. as they expand on Mars they would get dumber but it seems they would have to be dumb to go somewhere where there is no air, and no water, and no food for 5 years. Live in Cans.
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| From | Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> |
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| Date | 2015-12-21 04:06 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <a1gf7bh6l2qnbos3teacq2bir257mghkca@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #540482 |
On Sun, 20 Dec 2015 17:27:24 -0600, Sam Wormley wrote: >Should We Colonize Venus Instead of Mars? Neither. | Space Time | PBS Digital >Studios >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gJ5KV3rzuag > >> Mars One. The Mars Rover. Bruno Mars. Mars Bars. It's pretty clear >> we're OBSESSED with the idea of Mars, Who is "we?" NASA lied to the kiddies throughout the 60s about going elsewhere. It was bullshit. Now they lie to the kiddies about AGW. >> especially in regard to it >> being a potential colony for earthlings. But is that really the best >> option? Is there a better place for us to colonize in our solar >> system? Well, how about Venus? Sure the surface temperature is over >> 450 degrees Celsius, with crazy pressure, but there might be a smart >> way around that, making Venus a better option for long term >> colonization than Mars! How? Watch this week's episode of SpaceTime >> and find out! Not necessary. Both ideas are bonkers.
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| From | "reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-12-21 14:13 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <af1cc142-d601-4e61-8082-0ba7817345fc@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #540482 |
On Sunday, December 20, 2015 at 3:27:28 PM UTC-8, Sam Wormley wrote: > Should We Colonize Venus Instead of Mars? | Space Time | PBS Digital > Studios > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gJ5KV3rzuag > > > Mars One. The Mars Rover. Bruno Mars. Mars Bars. It's pretty clear > > we're OBSESSED with the idea of Mars, especially in regard to it > > being a potential colony for earthlings. But is that really the best > > option? Is there a better place for us to colonize in our solar > > system? Well, how about Venus? Sure the surface temperature is over > > 450 degrees Celsius, with crazy pressure, but there might be a smart > > way around that, making Venus a better option for long term > > colonization than Mars! How? Watch this week's episode of SpaceTime > > and find out! > > -- > > sci.physics is an unmoderated newsgroup dedicated > to the discussion of physics, news from the physics > community, and physics-related social issues. Best we just go beck to the moon.Its safer,and only 3 days away.Then wait till we are a classII and go to the next star that has ocean life.It might take longer.but its worth the wait in the long run.TreBert
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| From | Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-12-21 16:14 -0600 |
| Message-ID | <b_Wdnf0KP_kj5OXLnZ2dnUU7-WudnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #540697 |
On 12/21/15 4:13 PM, reber g=emc^2 wrote: > Best we just go beck to the moon.Its safer,and only 3 days away.Then wait till we are a classII and go to the next star that has ocean life.It might take longer.but its worth the wait in the long run.TreBert What would be our purpose in going to the moon, reber? -- sci.physics is an unmoderated newsgroup dedicated to the discussion of physics, news from the physics community, and physics-related social issues.
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| From | jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com |
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| Date | 2015-12-21 22:22 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <jmamkc-igi.ln1@mail.specsol.com> |
| In reply to | #540698 |
Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> wrote: > On 12/21/15 4:13 PM, reber g=emc^2 wrote: >> Best we just go beck to the moon.Its safer,and only 3 days away.Then wait till we are a classII and go to the next star that has ocean life.It might take longer.but its worth the wait in the long run.TreBert > > > What would be our purpose in going to the moon, reber? It is way less expensive than sending humans to another planet and the potential payoff from sending humans is the same, i.e. zero. Anything beyond the Moon should be explored by robots until Star Trek technology becomes real. -- Jim Pennino
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| From | "reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-12-22 13:59 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <b4377049-718e-47cb-9e25-f2ba95635eb8@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #540697 |
On Monday, December 21, 2015 at 2:13:26 PM UTC-8, reber g=emc^2 wrote: > On Sunday, December 20, 2015 at 3:27:28 PM UTC-8, Sam Wormley wrote: > > Should We Colonize Venus Instead of Mars? | Space Time | PBS Digital > > Studios > > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gJ5KV3rzuag > > > > > Mars One. The Mars Rover. Bruno Mars. Mars Bars. It's pretty clear > > > we're OBSESSED with the idea of Mars, especially in regard to it > > > being a potential colony for earthlings. But is that really the best > > > option? Is there a better place for us to colonize in our solar > > > system? Well, how about Venus? Sure the surface temperature is over > > > 450 degrees Celsius, with crazy pressure, but there might be a smart > > > way around that, making Venus a better option for long term > > > colonization than Mars! How? Watch this week's episode of SpaceTime > > > and find out! > > > > -- > > > > sci.physics is an unmoderated newsgroup dedicated > > to the discussion of physics, news from the physics > > community, and physics-related social issues. > > Best we just go beck to the moon.Its safer,and only 3 days away.Then wait till we are a classII and go to the next star that has ocean life.It might take longer.but its worth the wait in the long run.TreBert Going to the moon just means activating Saturn V.No big deal.Good place for tellys Good place for base.Dark side has lots of advantages too.If we don't China will.Rice ,egg rolls,and egg foo yong with hot tea or Bud fits. TreBert
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| From | Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-12-22 16:13 -0600 |
| Message-ID | <LOCdndkljKGRVuTLnZ2dnUU7-eWdnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #540897 |
On 12/22/15 3:59 PM, reber g=emc^2 wrote: > Going to the moon just means activating Saturn V There's a better rocket than the Saturn > http://www.voanews.com/content/reu-nasa-says-new-heavy-lift-sls-rocket-likely-for-2018-debut/2430522.html > Initially, the SLS rocket, which uses leftover space shuttle main > engines and shuttle-derived solid rocket boosters, will be able to > put about 77 tons (70 metric tons) into an orbit about 100 miles (160 > km) above Earth. Later versions are expected to carry nearly twice > that load. Ultimately, the rocket is expected to be used to launch > astronauts and equipment to Mars. > -- sci.physics is an unmoderated newsgroup dedicated to the discussion of physics, news from the physics community, and physics-related social issues.
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| From | jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com |
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| Date | 2015-12-22 23:29 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <vu2pkc-ifr.ln1@mail.specsol.com> |
| In reply to | #540897 |
reber g=emc^2 <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> wrote: > On Monday, December 21, 2015 at 2:13:26 PM UTC-8, reber g=emc^2 wrote: >> On Sunday, December 20, 2015 at 3:27:28 PM UTC-8, Sam Wormley wrote: >> > Should We Colonize Venus Instead of Mars? | Space Time | PBS Digital >> > Studios >> > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gJ5KV3rzuag >> > >> > > Mars One. The Mars Rover. Bruno Mars. Mars Bars. It's pretty clear >> > > we're OBSESSED with the idea of Mars, especially in regard to it >> > > being a potential colony for earthlings. But is that really the best >> > > option? Is there a better place for us to colonize in our solar >> > > system? Well, how about Venus? Sure the surface temperature is over >> > > 450 degrees Celsius, with crazy pressure, but there might be a smart >> > > way around that, making Venus a better option for long term >> > > colonization than Mars! How? Watch this week's episode of SpaceTime >> > > and find out! >> > >> > -- >> > >> > sci.physics is an unmoderated newsgroup dedicated >> > to the discussion of physics, news from the physics >> > community, and physics-related social issues. >> >> Best we just go beck to the moon.Its safer,and only 3 days away.Then wait till we are a classII and go to the next star that has ocean life.It might take longer.but its worth the wait in the long run.TreBert > > Going to the moon just means activating Saturn V.No big deal.Good place for tellys Good place for base.Dark side has lots of advantages too.If we don't China will.Rice ,egg rolls,and egg foo yong with hot tea or Bud fits. TreBert There are no more Saturn V's, all the tooling is gone as is likely are most of the blueprints, and a lot of things that were off the shelf in 1960 are no longer available. -- Jim Pennino
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| From | Raymond Yohros <bat@birdband.net> |
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| Date | 2015-12-21 18:45 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <fb08cf77-3db5-4339-97ee-10efb72fafa9@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #540482 |
On Sunday, 20 December 2015 18:27:28 UTC-5, Sam Wormley wrote: > Should We Colonize Venus Instead of Mars? | Space Time | PBS Digital > Studios > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gJ5KV3rzuag > > > Mars One. The Mars Rover. Bruno Mars. Mars Bars. It's pretty clear > > we're OBSESSED with the idea of Mars, especially in regard to it > > being a potential colony for earthlings. But is that really the best > > option? Is there a better place for us to colonize in our solar > > system? Well, how about Venus? Sure the surface temperature is over > > 450 degrees Celsius, with crazy pressure, but there might be a smart > > way around that, making Venus a better option for long term > > colonization than Mars! How? Watch this week's episode of SpaceTime > > and find out! > oh please, anybody with an average intelligence knows that mars is the best choice by far. it is stable, and it has all the element need it to do everything we do on earth why go into a mine field when you have OLYMPUS mounts in the horizon! r.y
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| From | jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com |
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| Date | 2015-12-22 03:30 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <vmsmkc-68k.ln1@mail.specsol.com> |
| In reply to | #540737 |
Raymond Yohros <bat@birdband.net> wrote: > On Sunday, 20 December 2015 18:27:28 UTC-5, Sam Wormley wrote: >> Should We Colonize Venus Instead of Mars? | Space Time | PBS Digital >> Studios >> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gJ5KV3rzuag >> >> > Mars One. The Mars Rover. Bruno Mars. Mars Bars. It's pretty clear >> > we're OBSESSED with the idea of Mars, especially in regard to it >> > being a potential colony for earthlings. But is that really the best >> > option? Is there a better place for us to colonize in our solar >> > system? Well, how about Venus? Sure the surface temperature is over >> > 450 degrees Celsius, with crazy pressure, but there might be a smart >> > way around that, making Venus a better option for long term >> > colonization than Mars! How? Watch this week's episode of SpaceTime >> > and find out! >> > > oh please, anybody with an average intelligence knows that > mars is the best choice by far. it is stable, and it has all the > element need it to do everything we do on earth You mean other than oxygen, nitrogen, water, a livable temperture and a decent atmospheric pressure? Then there is the Sun too dim to provide much in the way of solar power and no available natural fuel sources. -- Jim Pennino
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| From | Raymond Yohros <bat@birdband.net> |
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| Date | 2015-12-22 11:50 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <075242d0-bd8a-498b-95e3-b6819f502707@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #540740 |
On Monday, 21 December 2015 22:31:06 UTC-5, ji...@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote: > Raymond Yohros <bat@birdband.net> wrote: > > On Sunday, 20 December 2015 18:27:28 UTC-5, Sam Wormley wrote: > >> Should We Colonize Venus Instead of Mars? | Space Time | PBS Digital > >> Studios > >> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gJ5KV3rzuag > >> > >> > Mars One. The Mars Rover. Bruno Mars. Mars Bars. It's pretty clear > >> > we're OBSESSED with the idea of Mars, especially in regard to it > >> > being a potential colony for earthlings. But is that really the best > >> > option? Is there a better place for us to colonize in our solar > >> > system? Well, how about Venus? Sure the surface temperature is over > >> > 450 degrees Celsius, with crazy pressure, but there might be a smart > >> > way around that, making Venus a better option for long term > >> > colonization than Mars! How? Watch this week's episode of SpaceTime > >> > and find out! > >> > > > > oh please, anybody with an average intelligence knows that > > mars is the best choice by far. it is stable, and it has all the > > element need it to do everything we do on earth > > You mean other than oxygen, nitrogen, water, a livable temperture and > a decent atmospheric pressure? > yeah!, you can make everything with those (H,C,N,O,etc) food!,energy, glass, synthetic materials and remember, C is the star element in all of this! > Then there is the Sun too dim to provide much in the way of solar > power and no available natural fuel sources. > a dim sun is a good thing!, specially in the years to come and the earth is going to experience some serious shit from the sun and let alone venus!, that one will take at least a billion years to reach some form of equilibrium
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| From | jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com |
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| Date | 2015-12-22 20:10 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <fanokc-97q.ln1@mail.specsol.com> |
| In reply to | #540859 |
Raymond Yohros <bat@birdband.net> wrote: > On Monday, 21 December 2015 22:31:06 UTC-5, ji...@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote: >> Raymond Yohros <bat@birdband.net> wrote: >> > On Sunday, 20 December 2015 18:27:28 UTC-5, Sam Wormley wrote: >> >> Should We Colonize Venus Instead of Mars? | Space Time | PBS Digital >> >> Studios >> >> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gJ5KV3rzuag >> >> >> >> > Mars One. The Mars Rover. Bruno Mars. Mars Bars. It's pretty clear >> >> > we're OBSESSED with the idea of Mars, especially in regard to it >> >> > being a potential colony for earthlings. But is that really the best >> >> > option? Is there a better place for us to colonize in our solar >> >> > system? Well, how about Venus? Sure the surface temperature is over >> >> > 450 degrees Celsius, with crazy pressure, but there might be a smart >> >> > way around that, making Venus a better option for long term >> >> > colonization than Mars! How? Watch this week's episode of SpaceTime >> >> > and find out! >> >> >> > >> > oh please, anybody with an average intelligence knows that >> > mars is the best choice by far. it is stable, and it has all the >> > element need it to do everything we do on earth >> >> You mean other than oxygen, nitrogen, water, a livable temperture and >> a decent atmospheric pressure? >> > yeah!, you can make everything with those (H,C,N,O,etc) food!,energy, > glass, synthetic materials and remember, C is the star element in all of this! Except there is little to no available oxygen, nitrogen, or water on Mars, all the carbon is in CO2 and there is no readily available power or fuel to do anything on Mars. Most synthetic materials come from petroleum, which doesn't exist on Mars. >> Then there is the Sun too dim to provide much in the way of solar >> power and no available natural fuel sources. >> > > a dim sun is a good thing!, specially in the years to come and > the earth is going to experience some serious shit from the sun > and let alone venus!, that one will take at least a billion years to > reach some form of equilibrium The Sun is dim on Mars because it is a long way away and that has nothing to do with the Earth. -- Jim Pennino
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| From | Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-12-21 22:39 -0600 |
| Message-ID | <brednXM3ctqcSeXLnZ2dnUU7-bsAAAAA@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #540737 |
On 12/21/15 8:45 PM, Raymond Yohros wrote: > On Sunday, 20 December 2015 18:27:28 UTC-5, Sam Wormley wrote: >> Should We Colonize Venus Instead of Mars? | Space Time | PBS Digital >> Studios >>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gJ5KV3rzuag >> >>> Mars One. The Mars Rover. Bruno Mars. Mars Bars. It's pretty clear >>> we're OBSESSED with the idea of Mars, especially in regard to it >>> being a potential colony for earthlings. But is that really the best >>> option? Is there a better place for us to colonize in our solar >>> system? Well, how about Venus? Sure the surface temperature is over >>> 450 degrees Celsius, with crazy pressure, but there might be a smart >>> way around that, making Venus a better option for long term >>> colonization than Mars! How? Watch this week's episode of SpaceTime >>> and find out! >> > > oh please, anybody with an average intelligence knows that > mars is the best choice by far. it is stable, and it has all the > element need it to do everything we do on earth > > why go into a mine field when you have OLYMPUS mounts in > the horizon! > > r.y Lethal radiation and other stuff is a problem. -- sci.physics is an unmoderated newsgroup dedicated to the discussion of physics, news from the physics community, and physics-related social issues.
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| From | jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com |
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| Date | 2015-12-22 06:02 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <cl5nkc-34l.ln1@mail.specsol.com> |
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Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> wrote: > On 12/21/15 8:45 PM, Raymond Yohros wrote: >> On Sunday, 20 December 2015 18:27:28 UTC-5, Sam Wormley wrote: >>> Should We Colonize Venus Instead of Mars? | Space Time | PBS Digital >>> Studios >>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gJ5KV3rzuag >>> >>>> Mars One. The Mars Rover. Bruno Mars. Mars Bars. It's pretty clear >>>> we're OBSESSED with the idea of Mars, especially in regard to it >>>> being a potential colony for earthlings. But is that really the best >>>> option? Is there a better place for us to colonize in our solar >>>> system? Well, how about Venus? Sure the surface temperature is over >>>> 450 degrees Celsius, with crazy pressure, but there might be a smart >>>> way around that, making Venus a better option for long term >>>> colonization than Mars! How? Watch this week's episode of SpaceTime >>>> and find out! >>> >> >> oh please, anybody with an average intelligence knows that >> mars is the best choice by far. it is stable, and it has all the >> element need it to do everything we do on earth >> >> why go into a mine field when you have OLYMPUS mounts in >> the horizon! >> >> r.y > > > Lethal radiation and other stuff is a problem. Lethal radiation and other stuff is a problem everywhere off the Earth. -- Jim Pennino
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| From | Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-12-22 12:18 -0600 |
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| In reply to | #540767 |
On 12/22/15 12:02 AM, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote: > Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> wrote: >> On 12/21/15 8:45 PM, Raymond Yohros wrote: >>> On Sunday, 20 December 2015 18:27:28 UTC-5, Sam Wormley wrote: >>>> Should We Colonize Venus Instead of Mars? | Space Time | PBS Digital >>>> Studios >>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gJ5KV3rzuag >>>> >>>>> Mars One. The Mars Rover. Bruno Mars. Mars Bars. It's pretty clear >>>>> we're OBSESSED with the idea of Mars, especially in regard to it >>>>> being a potential colony for earthlings. But is that really the best >>>>> option? Is there a better place for us to colonize in our solar >>>>> system? Well, how about Venus? Sure the surface temperature is over >>>>> 450 degrees Celsius, with crazy pressure, but there might be a smart >>>>> way around that, making Venus a better option for long term >>>>> colonization than Mars! How? Watch this week's episode of SpaceTime >>>>> and find out! >>>> >>> >>> oh please, anybody with an average intelligence knows that >>> mars is the best choice by far. it is stable, and it has all the >>> element need it to do everything we do on earth >>> >>> why go into a mine field when you have OLYMPUS mounts in >>> the horizon! >>> >>> r.y >> >> >> Lethal radiation and other stuff is a problem. > > Lethal radiation and other stuff is a problem everywhere off the Earth. > > The jimp is correct -- lethal radiation away from the earth, A really good reason to keep humans at home operating robotic explorers. -- sci.physics is an unmoderated newsgroup dedicated to the discussion of physics, news from the physics community, and physics-related social issues.
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| From | jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com |
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| Date | 2015-12-22 18:49 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <mjiokc-3op.ln1@mail.specsol.com> |
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Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> wrote: > On 12/22/15 12:02 AM, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote: >> Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> wrote: >>> On 12/21/15 8:45 PM, Raymond Yohros wrote: >>>> On Sunday, 20 December 2015 18:27:28 UTC-5, Sam Wormley wrote: >>>>> Should We Colonize Venus Instead of Mars? | Space Time | PBS Digital >>>>> Studios >>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gJ5KV3rzuag >>>>> >>>>>> Mars One. The Mars Rover. Bruno Mars. Mars Bars. It's pretty clear >>>>>> we're OBSESSED with the idea of Mars, especially in regard to it >>>>>> being a potential colony for earthlings. But is that really the best >>>>>> option? Is there a better place for us to colonize in our solar >>>>>> system? Well, how about Venus? Sure the surface temperature is over >>>>>> 450 degrees Celsius, with crazy pressure, but there might be a smart >>>>>> way around that, making Venus a better option for long term >>>>>> colonization than Mars! How? Watch this week's episode of SpaceTime >>>>>> and find out! >>>>> >>>> >>>> oh please, anybody with an average intelligence knows that >>>> mars is the best choice by far. it is stable, and it has all the >>>> element need it to do everything we do on earth >>>> >>>> why go into a mine field when you have OLYMPUS mounts in >>>> the horizon! >>>> >>>> r.y >>> >>> >>> Lethal radiation and other stuff is a problem. >> >> Lethal radiation and other stuff is a problem everywhere off the Earth. >> >> > > The jimp is correct -- lethal radiation away from the earth, A really > good reason to keep humans at home operating robotic explorers. Nope, you can shield radiation. The reason to use robots is they are much cheaper to send somewhere, can continue to operate far longer and can do anything a human could do including hit a golf ball for a photo op. Apollo's purpose was primarily political to show the world the might of the US. All of the actual science done by the Apollo landings could today be done in a few robotic missions at a fraction of the (adjusted) cost. -- Jim Pennino
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