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  Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-07 14:41 +0000
    Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2015-11-07 09:59 -0500
    Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-07 10:26 -0500
      Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-07 18:33 +0000
        Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Big Fish in a Small Crotch <bigfishinasmallcrotch@myself.com> - 2015-11-07 13:35 -0500
          Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-07 19:07 +0000
            Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Big Fish in a Small Crotch <bigfishinasmallcrotch@myself.com> - 2015-11-07 14:17 -0500
              Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-07 19:32 +0000
                Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-11-07 19:33 +0000
                  Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Big Fish in a Small Crotch <bigfishinasmallcrotch@myself.com> - 2015-11-07 16:56 -0500
                Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Big Fish in a Small Crotch <bigfishinasmallcrotch@myself.com> - 2015-11-07 16:56 -0500
                  Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-07 22:18 +0000
                    Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-11-07 22:21 +0000
                      Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-07 22:31 +0000
                        Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Big Fish in a Small Crotch <bigfishinasmallcrotch@myself.com> - 2015-11-07 17:36 -0500
                        Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-11-07 23:17 +0000
                        Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. benj <none@gmail.com> - 2015-11-07 19:58 -0500
                        Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-07 22:28 -0700
                          Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-08 07:20 +0000
                            Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Big Fish in a Small Crotch <bigfishinasmallcrotch@myself.com> - 2015-11-08 08:13 -0500
                              Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-08 17:36 +0000
                              Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-08 17:58 +0000
                                Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Big Fish in a Small Crotch <bigfishinasmallcrotch@myself.com> - 2015-11-08 13:05 -0500
                            Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-08 11:33 -0700
                        Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-08 10:11 -0500
                          Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-08 17:31 +0000
                            Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-11-08 17:33 +0000
                              Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-08 17:51 +0000
                                Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Big Fish in a Small Crotch <bigfishinasmallcrotch@myself.com> - 2015-11-08 12:56 -0500
                                  Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-11-08 18:18 +0000
                                  Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-08 18:19 +0000
                                    Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Big Fish in a Small Crotch <bigfishinasmallcrotch@myself.com> - 2015-11-08 13:41 -0500
                                      Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-08 19:00 +0000
                                        Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Big Fish in a Small Crotch <bigfishinasmallcrotch@myself.com> - 2015-11-08 14:54 -0500
                            Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Big Fish in a Small Crotch <bigfishinasmallcrotch@myself.com> - 2015-11-08 12:35 -0500
                              Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-11-08 17:42 +0000
                                Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Big Fish in a Small Crotch <bigfishinasmallcrotch@myself.com> - 2015-11-08 12:53 -0500
                            Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-08 12:48 -0500
                              Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-08 18:31 +0000
                                Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-11-08 19:21 +0000
                                  Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-08 19:34 +0000
                                    Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Big Fish in a Small Crotch <bigfishinasmallcrotch@myself.com> - 2015-11-08 15:02 -0500
                                    Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-09 11:50 -0700
                                Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-08 18:40 -0500
                                  Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Big Fish in a Small Crotch <bigfishinasmallcrotch@myself.com> - 2015-11-08 18:47 -0500
                        Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2015-11-10 08:41 +0000
                      Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Big Fish in a Small Crotch <bigfishinasmallcrotch@myself.com> - 2015-11-07 17:32 -0500
                    Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-07 22:34 -0700
                      Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-08 07:12 +0000
                        Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-08 11:39 -0700
                  Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-07 17:25 -0500
                  Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-07 22:41 +0000
                    Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Big Fish in a Small Crotch <bigfishinasmallcrotch@myself.com> - 2015-11-07 17:45 -0500
                  Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-08 01:15 +0000
                    les trois m-tEErs. noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2015-11-07 17:25 -0800
                    Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-07 22:27 -0700
            Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-07 13:48 -0700
              Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-07 21:22 +0000
                Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Big Fish in a Small Crotch <bigfishinasmallcrotch@myself.com> - 2015-11-07 17:00 -0500
                  Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-07 22:08 +0000
                    Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Big Fish in a Small Crotch <bigfishinasmallcrotch@myself.com> - 2015-11-07 17:12 -0500
                    Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-07 22:34 -0700
                  Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-08 02:02 +0000
                Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-07 18:27 -0700
              Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-07 21:35 +0000
                Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-07 18:29 -0700
                  Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-08 01:52 +0000
                    Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-08 12:31 -0700
                      Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-08 20:00 +0000
                        Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Big Fish in a Small Crotch <bigfishinasmallcrotch@myself.com> - 2015-11-08 15:04 -0500
                          Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-08 20:22 +0000
                            Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Big Fish in a Small Crotch <bigfishinasmallcrotch@myself.com> - 2015-11-08 15:30 -0500
                            Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-09 11:53 -0700
                        Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-09 11:53 -0700
                Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2015-11-08 09:53 -0500
                  Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-11-08 16:03 +0100
                    Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Big Fish in a Small Crotch <bigfishinasmallcrotch@myself.com> - 2015-11-08 10:07 -0500
                    Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-11-08 15:14 +0000
                    Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2015-11-09 07:30 -0600
                      Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-09 08:34 -0500
                    Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2015-11-09 08:17 -0600
                      Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-09 10:22 -0500
                  Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-08 17:25 +0000
                    Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-08 12:45 -0500
                      Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-08 18:08 +0000
                        Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Big Fish in a Small Crotch <bigfishinasmallcrotch@myself.com> - 2015-11-08 13:16 -0500
                          Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-08 18:43 +0000
                            Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Big Fish in a Small Crotch <bigfishinasmallcrotch@myself.com> - 2015-11-08 13:49 -0500
                            Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Big Fish in a Small Crotch <bigfishinasmallcrotch@myself.com> - 2015-11-08 14:50 -0500
                          Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-08 15:45 -0700
                        Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-08 15:45 -0700
                        Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-08 18:35 -0500
                        My desktop is blank. Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> - 2015-11-08 17:15 -0800
                      Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-08 22:00 +0000
                        Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-11-08 22:57 +0000
                          Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Big Fish in a Small Crotch <bigfishinasmallcrotch@myself.com> - 2015-11-08 18:06 -0500
                        Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-08 16:53 -0700
                        Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-09 12:56 -0700
                    Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-08 12:37 -0700
                  Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-08 19:27 +0000
                    Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-09 12:59 -0700
        Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-07 14:08 -0500
        Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2015-11-07 14:50 -0500
          Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-07 16:45 -0500
        Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2015-11-08 15:49 +0000
    Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. gilber34 <fafa@invalid.com> - 2015-11-07 10:26 -0600
      Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-07 18:44 +0000
        Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-11-09 08:12 -0600
          Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-09 19:35 +0000
    Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2015-11-07 22:58 +0000
      Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-08 01:37 +0000
        Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2015-11-08 14:37 +0000
          Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2015-11-08 08:34 -0800
        Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-11-09 08:44 -0600
          Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-09 19:32 +0000
    Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Double-A <double-a3@hush.com> - 2015-11-10 14:12 -0800

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#531396

Peter Köhlmann wrote:

> some dumb fsck wrote:
>>
>> Fabian Russell wrote:
>>>
>>> One of their hailed "innovations" is a crude form of virtual desktops,
>>> something which has been possible on Linux for the past TWENTY YEARS
>>> (at least).
>> 
>> Windows virtual desktops are in no way "crude".  They're at least
>> functionally equivalent to most Linux virtual desktop implementations.
>
>Except that they aren't
>
>> In some ways they're better.  
>
>Really? Care to name some of these "better" ways?

It's amazing how these Wintrolls lie through their teeth, eh?  Utterly
shameless!

Remember when DumFSck argued that a single Windows machine appearing
at #58 on the top-500 list of supercomputers was some kind of Windows
victory?  

I guess because, on a list of 500 machines, 442 were behind it, while
only 57 were ahead of it.

LOL

I mean, you just could not make up such brain-damaged fsckwittery!  

-- 
Advocate:  For serious number crunching Linux leads the way.

DumFSck:  Except for the 442 Linux supercomputers trailing along
behind Windows HPC 2008.

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#531415

On 2015-11-09 9:17 AM, chrisv wrote:
> Peter Köhlmann wrote:
> 
>> some dumb fsck wrote:
>>>
>>> Fabian Russell wrote:
>>>>
>>>> One of their hailed "innovations" is a crude form of virtual desktops,
>>>> something which has been possible on Linux for the past TWENTY YEARS
>>>> (at least).
>>>
>>> Windows virtual desktops are in no way "crude".  They're at least
>>> functionally equivalent to most Linux virtual desktop implementations.
>>
>> Except that they aren't
>>
>>> In some ways they're better.  
>>
>> Really? Care to name some of these "better" ways?
> 
> It's amazing how these Wintrolls lie through their teeth, eh?  Utterly
> shameless!

Says the asshole who is constantly shown to be lying and then dares to
claim that he's honest.

> Remember when DumFSck argued that a single Windows machine appearing
> at #58 on the top-500 list of supercomputers was some kind of Windows
> victory?  
> 
> I guess because, on a list of 500 machines, 442 were behind it, while
> only 57 were ahead of it.
> 
> LOL
> 
> I mean, you just could not make up such brain-damaged fsckwittery!  

Says the asshole who claims to have a degree in engineering despite
being ignorant of one of its most basic lessons.

-- 
Slimer

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#531179

On Sun, 08 Nov 2015 09:53:10 -0500, DFS wrote:


> 
> Windows virtual desktops are in no way "crude".
>

Then why weren't they available twenty years ago?

>
>  They're at least 
> functionally equivalent to most Linux virtual desktop implementations.
> 

Can you scroll between desktops using the mouse?  No -- and it's a
big "No." 


>
> The Expo VD included with Mint 
>

Mint is for idiots.  There are window managers available for Linux
that will beat the pants off Microsoft's garbage any day.

Does Microsoft even offer a choice?  Another big "No."

>
> Half-ass hobbyware strikes again.
>

During the many, many vacant years of no available VDs in Microsoft,
I used a hobbyist virtual desktop to make up the deficiency:

http://virtuawin.sourceforge.net

This software is STILL BETTER than the current junk in W10.

Hobbyware puts MS to shame.

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#531189

On 2015-11-08 12:25 PM, Fabian Russell wrote:
> On Sun, 08 Nov 2015 09:53:10 -0500, DFS wrote:
> 
> 
>>
>> Windows virtual desktops are in no way "crude".
>>
> 
> Then why weren't they available twenty years ago?

Because the feature is useless. I've used Windows 10 since release and
have yet to come up with even one reason why I would want virtual desktops.

>>  They're at least 
>> functionally equivalent to most Linux virtual desktop implementations.
>>
> 
> Can you scroll between desktops using the mouse?  No -- and it's a
> big "No." 

Actually, you can. It only depends what kind of mouse you have.

>> The Expo VD included with Mint 
>>
> 
> Mint is for idiots.  There are window managers available for Linux
> that will beat the pants off Microsoft's garbage any day.

No, there aren't. No amount of delusion will make that a reality.

> Does Microsoft even offer a choice?  Another big "No."

It doesn't have to: the whole world has seen the alternative but decided
that Windows offers more and in better form.

>> Half-ass hobbyware strikes again.
>>
> 
> During the many, many vacant years of no available VDs in Microsoft,
> I used a hobbyist virtual desktop to make up the deficiency:
> 
> http://virtuawin.sourceforge.net
> 
> This software is STILL BETTER than the current junk in W10.
> 
> Hobbyware puts MS to shame.

That must be why people steer themselves away from hobbyware as though
it was the Black Plague.

-- 
Slimer

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#531202

On Sun, 08 Nov 2015 12:45:51 -0500, Slimer wrote:

>>
>> Then why weren't they available twenty years ago?
>
>
> Because the feature is useless. I've used Windows 10 since release and
> have yet to come up with even one reason why I would want virtual desktops.
>

Ha, ha, ha, ha!  You must compute like a little girl, or an old woman.
(Yes, a retarded little girl or a senile old woman.)

The virtual desktop is the most useful tool to eliminate clutter and 
induce extreme ease and convenience to the computing experience.  No one
with half a brain would ever pass it up.



>> 
>> There are window managers available for Linux
>> that will beat the pants off Microsoft's garbage any day.
> 
> No, there aren't. No amount of delusion will make that a reality.
> 

Oh yeah?  Can you add extra buttons to your windows with Microsoft?

No f****** way!

On Linux I can define up to TEN extra buttons on my windows to serve
various functions.

Now what say you? 



>>
>> Does Microsoft even offer a choice?  Another big "No."
> 
> It doesn't have to: the whole world has seen the alternative but decided
> that Windows offers more and in better form.
> 

When it comes to things digital, the majority of the world can't distinguish
their arse from a hole in the ground.

Such clueless idiots will take whatever is shoved down their throats and
never suspect the wretchedness of the product.

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#531203

On 8 Nov 2015 18:08:53 GMT, Fabian Russell wrote:

> On Sun, 08 Nov 2015 12:45:51 -0500, Slimer wrote:
> 
>>>
>>> Then why weren't they available twenty years ago?
>>
>>
>> Because the feature is useless. I've used Windows 10 since release and
>> have yet to come up with even one reason why I would want virtual desktops.
>>
> 
> Ha, ha, ha, ha!  You must compute like a little girl, or an old woman.
> (Yes, a retarded little girl or a senile old woman.)
> 
> The virtual desktop is the most useful tool to eliminate clutter and 
> induce extreme ease and convenience to the computing experience.  No one
> with half a brain would ever pass it up.
> 
> 
> 
>>> 
>>> There are window managers available for Linux
>>> that will beat the pants off Microsoft's garbage any day.
>> 
>> No, there aren't. No amount of delusion will make that a reality.
>> 
> 
> Oh yeah?  Can you add extra buttons to your windows with Microsoft?
> 
> No f****** way!
> 
> On Linux I can define up to TEN extra buttons on my windows to serve
> various functions.
> 
> Now what say you? 
> 
> 
> 
>>>
>>> Does Microsoft even offer a choice?  Another big "No."
>> 
>> It doesn't have to: the whole world has seen the alternative but decided
>> that Windows offers more and in better form.
>> 
> 
> When it comes to things digital, the majority of the world can't distinguish
> their arse from a hole in the ground.
> 
> Such clueless idiots will take whatever is shoved down their throats and
> never suspect the wretchedness of the product.

And while you Linux loons are tinkering with your system, us Windows users
are running the top tier applications. Oh and we also have access to some
of the better (that's not saying much for most though) FOSS applications
like LibreOffice, VLC, mplayer, gimp, ardour, audacity etc.

So in effect, us Windows users have more choice when it comes to QUALITY
applications than you Linux loons do.

And we get to run them on the latest high quality hardware utilizing all
the advanced features of that hardware.

Linux?

Good luck.

BTW, while virtual desktops are nice my 3 Samsung 27 inch LED monitors are
more than enough for me. 

-- 
You Ain't The Biggest Fish In The Crotch.

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#531216

On Sun, 08 Nov 2015 13:16:51 -0500, Big Fish in a Small Crotch wrote:

> 
> And while you Linux loons are tinkering with your system, us Windows users
> are running the top tier applications.
>

Believe it or not, I have everything that you have and a lot more.

(Well, I stopped with Photoshop 6 because I refuse to participate
in software-as-a-service subscriptions.)

But I still prefer Linux/OSS because they possess a far more professional
"feel," and configurability and extensibility are far more competent.

Heck, Microsoft, after all these long years, still has not made available
basic SIMD capability through its APIs.  This is truly shameful.

I keep Microsoft alive in order to accommodate the idiots of the world.
I do my work in Linux and then, when necessary, pass it through Microsoft
Windows before packaging and presenting to an external moron.

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#531218

On 8 Nov 2015 18:43:08 GMT, Fabian Russell wrote:

> On Sun, 08 Nov 2015 13:16:51 -0500, Big Fish in a Small Crotch wrote:
> 
>> 
>> And while you Linux loons are tinkering with your system, us Windows users
>> are running the top tier applications.
>>
> 
> Believe it or not, I have everything that you have and a lot more.
> 
> (Well, I stopped with Photoshop 6 because I refuse to participate
> in software-as-a-service subscriptions.)
> 
> But I still prefer Linux/OSS because they possess a far more professional
> "feel," and configurability and extensibility are far more competent.
> 
> Heck, Microsoft, after all these long years, still has not made available
> basic SIMD capability through its APIs.  This is truly shameful.
> 
> I keep Microsoft alive in order to accommodate the idiots of the world.
> I do my work in Linux and then, when necessary, pass it through Microsoft
> Windows before packaging and presenting to an external moron.

So the other 98.5 percent of the planet that uses something other than
Linux are morons but only the Linux users are superior?

That's funny.

Hint: The right tool for the job goes a long way towards productivity.
For *you* that tool might be Linux.
For the other 98.5 percent it's something other than Linux.

-- 
You Ain't The Biggest Fish In The Crotch.

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#531231

On 8 Nov 2015 18:43:08 GMT, Fabian Russell wrote:

> On Sun, 08 Nov 2015 13:16:51 -0500, Big Fish in a Small Crotch wrote:
> 
>> 
>> And while you Linux loons are tinkering with your system, us Windows users
>> are running the top tier applications.
>>
> 
> Believe it or not, I have everything that you have and a lot more.

No you don't.
And certainly not at the same level of quality, features and support.
Stop kidding yourself.
 
> (Well, I stopped with Photoshop 6 because I refuse to participate
> in software-as-a-service subscriptions.)

You'll find this difficult to believe, but I agree with you.
If I had an alternative to subscriptions I would move on but I don't.
Many people feel the same way with that model of software licensing.


> But I still prefer Linux/OSS because they possess a far more professional
> "feel," and configurability and extensibility are far more competent.

Specifically how?
Give examples.

Just so you know, this is a popular topic in COLA and to date not a single
Linux advocate has been able to build a case for what you are saying.

Configuration?
I'll give you that as Linux allows the end user to configure just about
everything and to the most minute level.
So how does this improve your productivity and how much time do you spend
tinkering vs getting work done?


> Heck, Microsoft, after all these long years, still has not made available
> basic SIMD capability through its APIs.  This is truly shameful.

Just what an average user needs.
<rolls eyes>

Linux, after all these long years, still can't manage to get power
management, to work correctly. Especially on laptops.

Which one do you think is more important to an average user?
 
> I keep Microsoft alive in order to accommodate the idiots of the world.
> I do my work in Linux and then, when necessary, pass it through Microsoft
> Windows before packaging and presenting to an external moron.

Sounds like you are creating extra work for yourself.
There is an idiot in COLA who gets Word documents, modifies them in
LibreOffice and then converts them back to DOCx and sends them on their
way.
He has MSOffice BTW.

I wonder if his bosses would approve of that.


-- 
You Ain't The Biggest Fish In The Crotch.

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#531259

On 11/08/15 11:16, Big Fish in a Small Crotch wrote:
> On 8 Nov 2015 18:08:53 GMT, Fabian Russell wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 08 Nov 2015 12:45:51 -0500, Slimer wrote:
>>
>>>>
>>>> Then why weren't they available twenty years ago?
>>>
>>>
>>> Because the feature is useless. I've used Windows 10 since release and
>>> have yet to come up with even one reason why I would want virtual desktops.
>>>
>>
>> Ha, ha, ha, ha!  You must compute like a little girl, or an old woman.
>> (Yes, a retarded little girl or a senile old woman.)
>>
>> The virtual desktop is the most useful tool to eliminate clutter and
>> induce extreme ease and convenience to the computing experience.  No one
>> with half a brain would ever pass it up.
>>
>>
>>
>>>>
>>>> There are window managers available for Linux
>>>> that will beat the pants off Microsoft's garbage any day.
>>>
>>> No, there aren't. No amount of delusion will make that a reality.
>>>
>>
>> Oh yeah?  Can you add extra buttons to your windows with Microsoft?
>>
>> No f****** way!
>>
>> On Linux I can define up to TEN extra buttons on my windows to serve
>> various functions.
>>
>> Now what say you?
>>
>>
>>
>>>>
>>>> Does Microsoft even offer a choice?  Another big "No."
>>>
>>> It doesn't have to: the whole world has seen the alternative but decided
>>> that Windows offers more and in better form.
>>>
>>
>> When it comes to things digital, the majority of the world can't distinguish
>> their arse from a hole in the ground.
>>
>> Such clueless idiots will take whatever is shoved down their throats and
>> never suspect the wretchedness of the product.
>
> And while you Linux loons are tinkering with your system, us Windows users
> are running the top tier applications. Oh and we also have access to some
> of the better (that's not saying much for most though) FOSS applications
> like LibreOffice, VLC, mplayer, gimp, ardour, audacity etc.
>
> So in effect, us Windows users have more choice when it comes to QUALITY
> applications than you Linux loons do.
>
> And we get to run them on the latest high quality hardware utilizing all
> the advanced features of that hardware.
>
> Linux?
>
> Good luck.
>
> BTW, while virtual desktops are nice my 3 Samsung 27 inch LED monitors are
> more than enough for me.
>
Linux... the branding kiss of death.

-- 
My problem is that I don't have enough middle fingers.

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#531258

On 11/08/15 11:08, Fabian Russell wrote:
> On Sun, 08 Nov 2015 12:45:51 -0500, Slimer wrote:
>
>>>
>>> Then why weren't they available twenty years ago?
>>
>>
>> Because the feature is useless. I've used Windows 10 since release and
>> have yet to come up with even one reason why I would want virtual desktops.
>>
>
> Ha, ha, ha, ha!  You must compute like a little girl, or an old woman.
> (Yes, a retarded little girl or a senile old woman.)
>

Typical linux loon response.
Only true geeks use linux.  They have this need to tinker.

> The virtual desktop is the most useful tool to eliminate clutter and
> induce extreme ease and convenience to the computing experience.  No one
> with half a brain would ever pass it up.
>
>
>
>>>
>>> There are window managers available for Linux
>>> that will beat the pants off Microsoft's garbage any day.
>>
>> No, there aren't. No amount of delusion will make that a reality.
>>
>
> Oh yeah?  Can you add extra buttons to your windows with Microsoft?
>
> No f****** way!

What for?
I can program an app with my own custom buttons.

>
> On Linux I can define up to TEN extra buttons on my windows to serve
> various functions.

So?  What would you need 10 extra buttons for?

>
> Now what say you?
>
>

Guffaw!!!

>
>>>
>>> Does Microsoft even offer a choice?  Another big "No."
>>
>> It doesn't have to: the whole world has seen the alternative but decided
>> that Windows offers more and in better form.
>>
>
> When it comes to things digital, the majority of the world can't distinguish
> their arse from a hole in the ground.
>

Guffaw!!!

> Such clueless idiots will take whatever is shoved down their throats and
> never suspect the wretchedness of the product.
>

But it looks like you are trying to shove linux down the publics throat.


-- 
My problem is that I don't have enough middle fingers.

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#531276

On 2015-11-08 1:08 PM, Fabian Russell wrote:
> On Sun, 08 Nov 2015 12:45:51 -0500, Slimer wrote:
> 
>>>
>>> Then why weren't they available twenty years ago?
>>
>>
>> Because the feature is useless. I've used Windows 10 since release and
>> have yet to come up with even one reason why I would want virtual desktops.
>>
> 
> Ha, ha, ha, ha!  You must compute like a little girl, or an old woman.
> (Yes, a retarded little girl or a senile old woman.)
> 
> The virtual desktop is the most useful tool to eliminate clutter and 
> induce extreme ease and convenience to the computing experience.  No one
> with half a brain would ever pass it up.

And yet most people haven't even noticed that Windows 10 supported
virtual desktops as a result of a lack of need for such a feature. If
you're a programmer, you might make use of such a thing but most people
won't and are quite happy with simply minimizing programs which are not
at use.

>>> There are window managers available for Linux
>>> that will beat the pants off Microsoft's garbage any day.
>>
>> No, there aren't. No amount of delusion will make that a reality.
>>
> 
> Oh yeah?  Can you add extra buttons to your windows with Microsoft?
> 
> No f****** way!
> 
> On Linux I can define up to TEN extra buttons on my windows to serve
> various functions.
> 
> Now what say you? 

You mean to the window bar? Why would anyone care about such a feature?

>>> Does Microsoft even offer a choice?  Another big "No."
>>
>> It doesn't have to: the whole world has seen the alternative but decided
>> that Windows offers more and in better form.
>>
> 
> When it comes to things digital, the majority of the world can't distinguish
> their arse from a hole in the ground.
> 
> Such clueless idiots will take whatever is shoved down their throats and
> never suspect the wretchedness of the product.

I'm sure that Microsoft is very upset that they can't get that 1.5% of
computer users which never pay for software at all.

-- 
Slimer

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#531290 — My desktop is blank.

My desktop is blank, always, like this:

  Jeff-Relf.Me/MyDesktop.PNG

Instead, I use folders.

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#531245

On Sun, 08 Nov 2015 12:45:51 -0500, Slimer wrote:

>> 
>> Hobbyware puts MS to shame.
> 
> That must be why people steer themselves away from hobbyware as though
> it was the Black Plague.
>

The average MS Windows user *cannot* use Linux.

I don't mean "will not" but "can not."  The average Microsoft user
is literally incapable of utilizing Linux and that's the ONLY reason
for Linux rejection.

Aside from garbage and junk like Ubuntu or Mint, Linux requires
a certain technical awareness and savvy that the average MS Windows
user could NEVER muster.

Never!

That's the ONLY REASON people will steer themselves away,

Lot's of people can't operate a stick shift, and so they cannot
ever operate a high-end sports car.  They are forever excluded
from that club.

It's the same story with Linux.

Do not let the collective opinion of the ignorant mob influence
your judgment of the finest OS that ever was: GNU/Linux.

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#531263

On Sun, 08 Nov 2015 22:00:50 +0000, Fabian Russell wrote:

> On Sun, 08 Nov 2015 12:45:51 -0500, Slimer wrote:
> 
> 
>>> Hobbyware puts MS to shame.
>> 
>> That must be why people steer themselves away from hobbyware as though
>> it was the Black Plague.
>>
>>
> The average MS Windows user *cannot* use Linux.
>
Utter bullshit.
 
> I don't mean "will not" but "can not."  The average Microsoft user is
> literally incapable of utilizing Linux and that's the ONLY reason for
> Linux rejection.
>
Based solely on the level of intelligence shown here by the linux loons, 
it doesn't take much smarts to use linux.  Unfortunately for the linux 
loons, they can't show why one would want to.  Well other than wanting to 
tinker with the OS while others actually accomplish something.
 
> Aside from garbage and junk like Ubuntu or Mint, Linux requires a
> certain technical awareness and savvy that the average MS Windows user
> could NEVER muster.
> 
> Never!
> 
> That's the ONLY REASON people will steer themselves away,
> 
Nope.

Linux just doesn't have anything compelling to make one want to even 
bother with it.  And after 20+ years of being totally free, the market 
has resoundingly rejected it in that role.  With a share that is more 
like a rounding error than anything else, that has to sting!

> Lot's of people can't operate a stick shift, and so they cannot ever
> operate a high-end sports car.  They are forever excluded from that
> club.
> 
> It's the same story with Linux.
> 
> Do not let the collective opinion of the ignorant mob influence your
> judgment of the finest OS that ever was: GNU/Linux.

I'll give you this, you do present yourself as some sort of expert.  But 
then the content of your posts show you are just a linux loon without a 
scintilla of actual knowledge.

IOW, a dumbass!!



-- 
Lloyd

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#531267

On 8 Nov 2015 22:57:41 GMT, Lloyd Parsons wrote:

> On Sun, 08 Nov 2015 22:00:50 +0000, Fabian Russell wrote:
> 
>> On Sun, 08 Nov 2015 12:45:51 -0500, Slimer wrote:
>> 
>> 
>>>> Hobbyware puts MS to shame.
>>> 
>>> That must be why people steer themselves away from hobbyware as though
>>> it was the Black Plague.
>>>
>>>
>> The average MS Windows user *cannot* use Linux.
>>
> Utter bullshit.

+1

Linux loons in COLA have been spouting for years that Linux is easier to
use than Windows.
  
>> I don't mean "will not" but "can not."  The average Microsoft user is
>> literally incapable of utilizing Linux and that's the ONLY reason for
>> Linux rejection.
>>
> Based solely on the level of intelligence shown here by the linux loons, 
> it doesn't take much smarts to use linux.  Unfortunately for the linux 
> loons, they can't show why one would want to.  Well other than wanting to 
> tinker with the OS while others actually accomplish something.

If these idiot Linux loons can install and use Linux, an imbecile should be
able to accomplish it.
Take a look at William "Wideload" Poaster for a prime example.


  
>> Aside from garbage and junk like Ubuntu or Mint, Linux requires a
>> certain technical awareness and savvy that the average MS Windows user
>> could NEVER muster.
>> 
>> Never!
>> 
>> That's the ONLY REASON people will steer themselves away,
>> 
> Nope.
> 
> Linux just doesn't have anything compelling to make one want to even 
> bother with it.  And after 20+ years of being totally free, the market 
> has resoundingly rejected it in that role.  With a share that is more 
> like a rounding error than anything else, that has to sting!

Of course it stings.
That is why the Linux loons are now resorting to the "only superior minded
people use Linux".
The masses have shunned Linux.
 
>> Lot's of people can't operate a stick shift, and so they cannot ever
>> operate a high-end sports car.  They are forever excluded from that
>> club.
>> 
>> It's the same story with Linux.
>> 
>> Do not let the collective opinion of the ignorant mob influence your
>> judgment of the finest OS that ever was: GNU/Linux.
> 
> I'll give you this, you do present yourself as some sort of expert.  But 
> then the content of your posts show you are just a linux loon without a 
> scintilla of actual knowledge.

He recites the typical Linux loon play book word for word.
He seems to be the elitist type of Linux loon, like Jeb or Vallor.
IOW, his choice of dancing around the Linux is crap debate is based upon
the concept that only "smart people" are capable of using Linux.

Unfortunately this is in direct conflict with those Linux loons who have
been claiming for years that Linux is superior and easier to use than
Windows.
 
> IOW, a dumbass!!

What Linux loon isn't a dumbass?

They need to take off the rose colored glasses, get out of the basement and
see what the rest of the earth is up to.

Hint: It's not desktop Linux.


-- 
You Ain't The Biggest Fish In The Crotch.

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#531280

On 11/8/15, 3:00 PM, in article
pan.2015.11.08.22.01.38@localhost.localdomain, "Fabian Russell"
<root@localhost.localdomain> wrote:

> On Sun, 08 Nov 2015 12:45:51 -0500, Slimer wrote:
> 
>>> 
>>> Hobbyware puts MS to shame.
>> 
>> That must be why people steer themselves away from hobbyware as though
>> it was the Black Plague.
> 
> The average MS Windows user *cannot* use Linux.
> 
> I don't mean "will not" but "can not."  The average Microsoft user
> is literally incapable of utilizing Linux and that's the ONLY reason
> for Linux rejection.

If the desktop Linux ecosystem improved to the point where it could be used
easily and served people as well as Windows does it would gain MANY users.

> Aside from garbage and junk like Ubuntu or Mint, Linux requires
> a certain technical awareness and savvy that the average MS Windows
> user could NEVER muster.
> 
> Never!
> 
> That's the ONLY REASON people will steer themselves away,
> 
> Lot's of people can't operate a stick shift, and so they cannot
> ever operate a high-end sports car.  They are forever excluded
> from that club.
> 
> It's the same story with Linux.
> 
> Do not let the collective opinion of the ignorant mob influence
> your judgment of the finest OS that ever was: GNU/Linux.

Do you have examples of tasks which Linux handles better than the
competition? There was a discussion in COLA about that some time ago and the
Linux users had a hard time coming up with any examples. Here are some
examples from the competition where Linux was never shown to be able to
handle things well... and there are many more:

* From a single online recipe (or art project, lesson plan, whatever) save
it and email a PDF version where you add notes to it. Now I know this can be
done on Linux; save, open, edit, email. Just curious to see how you people
would generally do it and how streamlined the workflow would be. A couple
ways I might: <https://youtu.be/NPM_WldEBs0>.

* Make a video, as Owl and I have been, but with cursor replacement /
resizing (post production), window highlighting, zooming, arbitrary area
highlighting. For me these were done just to show something else:
<https://youtu.be/aSNpnYpmKag>. I have many other options but picked these
because they fit the real-world example I did shortly before coming up with
the "challenge".

* Getting a WayBackArchive page and getting images of all links, the HTML
validation and CSS validation from W3.org, and a active link to the archive
page, as I did here (does not have to look the exact same, of course):
<http://tmp.gallopinginsanity.com/sandman/sandman-archive.pdf>.




-- 
* OS X / Linux: What is a file?     <http://youtu.be/_dMbXGLW9PI>
* Mint MATE Trash, Panel, Menu:     <http://youtu.be/C0y74FIf7uE>
* Mint KDE working with folders:    <http://youtu.be/7C9nvniOoE0>
* Mint KDE creating files:          <http://youtu.be/N7-fZJaJUv8>
* Mint KDE help:                    <http://youtu.be/3ikizUd3sa8>
* Mint KDE general navigation:      <http://youtu.be/t9y14yZtQuI>
* Mint KDE bugs or Easter eggs?     <http://youtu.be/CU-whJQvtfA>
* Easy on OS X / Hard on Linux:     <http://youtu.be/D3BPWANQoIk>
* OS / Word Processor Comparison:   <http://youtu.be/w6Qcl-w7s5c>

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#531490

On 11/08/15 15:00, Fabian Russell wrote:
> On Sun, 08 Nov 2015 12:45:51 -0500, Slimer wrote:
>
>>>
>>> Hobbyware puts MS to shame.
>>
>> That must be why people steer themselves away from hobbyware as though
>> it was the Black Plague.
>>
>
> The average MS Windows user *cannot* use Linux.
>
And neither are they interested in linux.  Most people aren't geeks.

> I don't mean "will not" but "can not."  The average Microsoft user
> is literally incapable of utilizing Linux and that's the ONLY reason
> for Linux rejection.
>
> Aside from garbage and junk like Ubuntu or Mint, Linux requires
> a certain technical awareness and savvy that the average MS Windows
> user could NEVER muster.
>
> Never!

Guffaw!!!  So you say.

>
> That's the ONLY REASON people will steer themselves away,
>
> Lot's of people can't operate a stick shift, and so they cannot
> ever operate a high-end sports car.  They are forever excluded
> from that club.
>
> It's the same story with Linux.
>
> Do not let the collective opinion of the ignorant mob influence
> your judgment of the finest OS that ever was: GNU/Linux.
>
Linux is the geeks tinker toy set.

-- 
My problem is that I don't have enough middle fingers.

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#531228

On 11/08/15 10:25, Fabian Russell wrote:
> On Sun, 08 Nov 2015 09:53:10 -0500, DFS wrote:
>
>
>>
>> Windows virtual desktops are in no way "crude".
>>
>
> Then why weren't they available twenty years ago?
>

Because the user didn't need them back 20 years ago.
Only engineers and other professionals purchased a real UNIX box back 
then if they needed them.
Linux back then wasn't even in the same league as say HP-UX, IRIX, 
Ultrix, etc.

>>
>>   They're at least
>> functionally equivalent to most Linux virtual desktop implementations.
>>
>
> Can you scroll between desktops using the mouse?  No -- and it's a
> big "No."

Heh.  Depends on who you purchased your PC from.  HP uses catalyst to 
scroll sideways on one very large window for various projects.

>
>
>>
>> The Expo VD included with Mint
>>
>
> Mint is for idiots.  There are window managers available for Linux
> that will beat the pants off Microsoft's garbage any day.
>
> Does Microsoft even offer a choice?  Another big "No."
>
Yes, they do.
You just didn't have the money to buy a good PC is all.

>>
>> Half-ass hobbyware strikes again.
>>
>
> During the many, many vacant years of no available VDs in Microsoft,
> I used a hobbyist virtual desktop to make up the deficiency:
>

Guffaw!!!

> http://virtuawin.sourceforge.net
>
> This software is STILL BETTER than the current junk in W10.
>
> Hobbyware puts MS to shame.
>

You mean, SLOPWARE that isn't standardized between various linux 
distros.  Yet the landfill is full of tossed out linux dvds.


-- 
My problem is that I don't have enough middle fingers.

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#531225

On Sun, 08 Nov 2015 09:53:10 -0500, DFS wrote:

> Half-ass hobbyware strikes again.
> 

I am sick and tired of this misplaced accusation.

In the first place, the correct term is "amateur" and not "hobbyist."
Open source programmers are AMATEURS in the true sense of the word

The word "amateur" means someone who performs some activity purely
for the love and enjoyment of that activity.  The amateur is not
necessarily any less proficient than the professional, but only
does not expect monetary compensation for his labors.

Yes, an amateur programmer is just as good, or even better, than
a highly paid professional.  Therefore, open source software is
often just as good, or even better, than its commercial counterparts.

For one thing, OSS can be better because it does not have to conform
to the artificial constraints imposed on commercial products by marketing
considerations.

Anyone who doubts this has never been involved in commercial software
production.  The average professional programmer is not always highly
skilled.  That's why most companies employ legions of coders just to
produce a simple software package.  In this kind of situation, any
individual incompetence tends to get lost in the collective effort.

OSS cannot be so easily dismissed by branding it as "hobbyware."
Face the facts.  The kid next door can be more adept and imaginative
than the six-figure software manager at MSFT.

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