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| Started by | Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> |
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| First post | 2015-09-10 09:01 +0200 |
| Last post | 2015-09-10 19:24 -0700 |
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Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> - 2015-09-10 09:01 +0200
Re: Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes Topaz <mars1933@hotmail.com> - 2015-09-10 15:44 -0500
Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes Sarah Ehrett <ninety7gt@cox.net> - 2015-09-10 19:07 -0400
Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes "Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> - 2015-09-11 15:17 -0500
Re: Rocky wrong again jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-09-11 20:38 +0000
Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes Sarah Ehrett <ninety7gt@cox.net> - 2015-09-11 18:54 -0400
Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes "Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> - 2015-09-14 00:14 -0500
Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes Sarah Ehrett <ninety7gt@cox.net> - 2015-09-14 09:11 -0400
Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes "Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> - 2015-09-14 08:48 -0500
Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes Sarah Ehrett <ninety7gt@cox.net> - 2015-09-14 10:33 -0400
Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2015-09-17 04:02 -0500
Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes "Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> - 2015-09-19 21:46 -0500
Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2015-09-20 05:12 -0500
Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes Tony Dragon <tony.dragon@btinternet.com> - 2015-09-14 19:24 +0100
Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes "Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> - 2015-09-14 13:36 -0500
Re: Rocky still crazy jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-09-14 18:54 +0000
Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes Tony Dragon <tony.dragon@btinternet.com> - 2015-09-14 21:19 +0100
Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes "Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> - 2015-09-14 16:47 -0500
Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2015-09-11 18:13 -0500
Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2015-09-10 19:31 -0500
Re: Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes Topaz <mars1933@hotmail.com> - 2015-09-11 14:43 -0500
Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes gilber34 <invalid@invalid.com> - 2015-09-11 17:26 -0500
Re: Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes Topaz <mars1933@hotmail.com> - 2015-09-12 03:55 -0500
Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2015-09-11 18:09 -0500
Re: Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> - 2015-09-11 06:43 +0200
Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> - 2015-09-11 19:22 +0200
Re: Re: Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes Topaz <mars1933@hotmail.com> - 2015-09-11 15:34 -0500
Re: Re: Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> - 2015-09-12 06:59 +0200
Re: Re: Re: Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes Topaz <mars1933@hotmail.com> - 2015-09-12 05:34 -0500
Re: Re: Re: Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes "Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> - 2015-09-12 11:47 -0500
Re: Re: Re: Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> - 2015-09-13 07:04 +0200
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes Topaz <mars1933@hotmail.com> - 2015-09-13 05:34 -0500
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> - 2015-09-14 06:36 +0200
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes Topaz <mars1933@hotmail.com> - 2015-09-14 15:47 -0500
Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes Sarah Ehrett <ninety7gt@cox.net> - 2015-09-14 17:22 -0400
Re: Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes Topaz <mars1933@hotmail.com> - 2015-09-15 15:43 -0500
Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes Sarah Ehrett <ninety7gt@cox.net> - 2015-09-15 17:34 -0400
Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes "Sir Gregory Hall, Esq." <greghall@yacht_master.fake> - 2015-09-15 17:39 -0400
Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes Sarah Ehrett <ninety7gt@cox.net> - 2015-09-15 19:29 -0400
Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes "Sir Gregory Hall, Esq." <greghall@yacht_master.fake> - 2015-09-16 09:21 -0400
Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes "Checkmate, DoW #1" <Lunatic.Fringe@The.Edge> - 2015-09-16 08:57 -0700
Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes "Sir Gregory Hall, Esq." <greghall@yacht_master.fake> - 2015-09-16 15:50 -0400
Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-09-16 20:08 +0000
Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes Sarah Ehrett <ninety7gt@cox.net> - 2015-09-16 16:43 -0400
Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes "Sir Gregory Hall, Esq." <greghall@yacht_master.fake> - 2015-09-16 16:51 -0400
Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-09-16 21:10 +0000
Re: Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes Topaz <mars1933@hotmail.com> - 2015-09-17 15:29 -0500
Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes Sarah Ehrett <ninety7gt@cox.net> - 2015-09-16 17:20 -0400
Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes "Sir Gregory Hall, Esq." <greghall@yacht_master.fake> - 2015-09-16 17:26 -0400
Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes Sarah Ehrett <ninety7gt@cox.net> - 2015-09-16 18:34 -0400
Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes "Sir Gregory Hall, Esq." <greghall@yacht_master.fake> - 2015-09-16 21:41 -0400
Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes "%" <persent@gmail.com> - 2015-09-16 18:52 -0700
Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2015-09-16 18:50 -0700
Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes Sarah Ehrett <ninety7gt@cox.net> - 2015-09-17 00:23 -0400
Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes "Checkmate, DoW #1" <Lunatic.Fringe@The.Edge> - 2015-09-16 21:42 -0700
Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes "\"Fakey's\" dogwhistle holder living at 5907 Stanton Ave., Pittsburgh, PA (aka Teh Mop Jockey), socked up as 5907 Stanton Avenue, Pittsburgh, PA 15206-2117" <root@127.0.0.1> - 2015-09-17 01:13 -0400
Re: Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes Topaz <mars1933@hotmail.com> - 2015-09-17 15:45 -0500
Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes "Checkmate, DoW #1" <Lunatic.Fringe@The.Edge> - 2015-09-16 16:48 -0700
Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes "Sir Gregory Hall, Esq." <greghall@yacht_master.fake> - 2015-09-16 21:43 -0400
Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes "Checkmate, DoW #1" <Lunatic.Fringe@The.Edge> - 2015-09-16 21:50 -0700
Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> - 2015-09-17 06:51 +0200
Re: Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes Topaz <mars1933@hotmail.com> - 2015-09-17 15:56 -0500
Re: Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> - 2015-09-18 06:25 +0200
Re: Re: Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes Topaz <mars1933@hotmail.com> - 2015-09-18 17:34 -0500
Re: Re: Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> - 2015-09-19 07:31 +0200
Re: Re: Re: Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes Topaz <mars1933@hotmail.com> - 2015-09-19 04:09 -0500
Re: Re: Re: Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> - 2015-09-19 23:00 +0200
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes Topaz <mars1933@hotmail.com> - 2015-09-20 04:03 -0500
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> - 2015-09-20 20:24 +0200
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes Topaz <mars1933@hotmail.com> - 2015-09-21 15:43 -0500
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes "Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> - 2015-09-21 16:01 -0500
9/11/01 - There were no planes Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> - 2015-09-22 07:29 +0200
Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes Topaz <mars1933@hotmail.com> - 2015-09-22 15:25 -0500
Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes "Checkmate, DoW #1" <Lunatic.Fringe@The.Edge> - 2015-09-16 14:13 -0700
Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes Sarah Ehrett <ninety7gt@cox.net> - 2015-09-16 13:25 -0400
Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-09-16 17:56 +0000
Re: Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes Topaz <mars1933@hotmail.com> - 2015-09-16 16:19 -0500
Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes "Sir Gregory Hall, Esq. DoW #10" <greghall@yacht_master.fake> - 2015-09-16 17:34 -0400
Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes "Checkmate, DoW #1" <Lunatic.Fringe@The.Edge> - 2015-09-16 17:00 -0700
Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes "%" <persent@gmail.com> - 2015-09-16 17:09 -0700
Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes "Checkmate, DoW #1" <Lunatic.Fringe@The.Edge> - 2015-09-16 21:40 -0700
Re: Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes Topaz <mars1933@hotmail.com> - 2015-09-17 16:24 -0500
Re: Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes BDK <Control@Worldcontrol.com> - 2015-09-18 10:12 -0400
Re: Re: Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes Topaz <mars1933@hotmail.com> - 2015-09-18 17:35 -0500
Re: Re: Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes BDK <Control@Worldcontrol.com> - 2015-09-20 09:47 -0400
Re: Re: Re: Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes Topaz <mars1933@hotmail.com> - 2015-09-21 15:44 -0500
Re: Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes Topaz <mars1933@hotmail.com> - 2015-09-17 16:20 -0500
Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2015-09-17 21:06 -0500
Re: Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes Topaz <mars1933@hotmail.com> - 2015-09-18 17:36 -0500
Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2015-09-19 03:41 -0500
Re: Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes Topaz <mars1933@hotmail.com> - 2015-09-19 04:11 -0500
Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2015-09-19 05:09 -0500
Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes "Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> - 2015-09-19 10:47 -0500
Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes Sarah Ehrett <ninety7gt@cox.net> - 2015-09-19 12:20 -0400
Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2015-09-19 11:43 -0500
Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes Sarah Ehrett <ninety7gt@cox.net> - 2015-09-19 21:15 -0400
Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2015-09-20 05:12 -0500
Re: Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes Topaz <mars1933@hotmail.com> - 2015-09-20 04:09 -0500
Re: Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes "Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> - 2015-09-20 17:13 -0500
Re: 9/11/01 - There are no brains in Rocky's head jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-09-20 22:25 +0000
Re: Re: 9/11/01 - There are no brains in Rocky's head Topaz <mars1933@hotmail.com> - 2015-09-21 15:48 -0500
Re: Re: 9/11/01 - There are no brains in Rocky's head Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> - 2015-09-22 07:02 +0200
Re: Re: Re: 9/11/01 - There are no brains in Rocky's head Topaz <mars1933@hotmail.com> - 2015-09-22 15:29 -0500
Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes Sarah Ehrett <ninety7gt@cox.net> - 2015-09-20 18:49 -0400
Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes "Bast" <fakename@nomail.invalid> - 2015-09-21 00:02 -0400
Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes Sarah Ehrett <ninety7gt@cox.net> - 2015-09-21 02:27 -0400
Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes "Bast" <fakename@nomail.invalid> - 2015-09-21 03:04 -0400
Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes Sarah Ehrett <ninety7gt@cox.net> - 2015-09-22 14:18 -0400
Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes "Bast" <fakename@nomail.invalid> - 2015-09-22 21:41 -0400
Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes Sarah Ehrett <ninety7gt@cox.net> - 2015-09-23 00:57 -0400
Re: Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes Topaz <mars1933@hotmail.com> - 2015-09-23 15:17 -0500
Re: Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes "Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> - 2015-09-23 15:59 -0500
Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2015-09-24 03:49 -0500
Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2015-09-24 03:48 -0500
Re: Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes Topaz <mars1933@hotmail.com> - 2015-09-24 15:56 -0500
Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2015-09-25 04:18 -0500
Re: Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes Topaz <mars1933@hotmail.com> - 2015-09-25 15:21 -0500
Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2015-09-25 17:05 -0500
Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes "Bast" <fakename@nomail.invalid> - 2015-09-24 06:22 -0400
Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes "Bast" <fakename@nomail.invalid> - 2015-09-24 06:40 -0400
Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes Sarah Ehrett <ninety7gt@cox.net> - 2015-09-24 13:06 -0400
Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes "Bast" <fakename@nomail.invalid> - 2015-09-24 16:59 -0400
Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes Sarah Ehrett <ninety7gt@cox.net> - 2015-09-24 21:48 -0400
Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2015-09-25 04:17 -0500
Re: Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes Topaz <mars1933@hotmail.com> - 2015-09-24 16:03 -0500
Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes "Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> - 2015-09-23 07:58 -0500
Re: Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes Topaz <mars1933@hotmail.com> - 2015-09-21 17:30 -0500
Re: Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes "Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> - 2015-09-21 17:58 -0500
Re: Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes "Bast" <fakename@nomail.invalid> - 2015-09-22 05:23 -0400
Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2015-09-22 04:53 -0500
Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2015-09-22 04:53 -0500
Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes "Bast" <fakename@nomail.invalid> - 2015-09-22 13:38 -0400
Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2015-09-23 03:36 -0500
Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes Sarah Ehrett <ninety7gt@cox.net> - 2015-09-23 14:05 -0400
Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2015-09-24 03:48 -0500
Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes "Bast" <fakename@nomail.invalid> - 2015-09-24 06:48 -0400
Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes BDK <Control@Worldcontrol.com> - 2015-09-24 09:41 -0400
Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes Sarah Ehrett <ninety7gt@cox.net> - 2015-09-24 13:08 -0400
Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes "Bast" <fakename@nomail.invalid> - 2015-09-24 17:13 -0400
Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes Sarah Ehrett <ninety7gt@cox.net> - 2015-09-24 21:52 -0400
Re: Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes Topaz <mars1933@hotmail.com> - 2015-09-25 15:46 -0500
planes thereupon none where noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2015-09-25 18:10 -0700
Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2015-09-25 04:17 -0500
Re: Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes Topaz <mars1933@hotmail.com> - 2015-09-24 16:14 -0500
Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2015-09-25 04:17 -0500
Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes "Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> - 2015-09-23 08:24 -0500
Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2015-09-24 03:47 -0500
Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2015-09-20 18:32 -0500
Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes "Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> - 2015-09-21 15:50 -0500
Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2015-09-19 11:32 -0500
Re: Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes Topaz <mars1933@hotmail.com> - 2015-09-20 04:06 -0500
Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2015-09-20 05:13 -0500
Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes "Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> - 2015-09-20 17:22 -0500
Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2015-09-20 18:33 -0500
Re: Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes Topaz <mars1933@hotmail.com> - 2015-09-21 17:15 -0500
Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2015-09-22 04:53 -0500
Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes "Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> - 2015-09-21 05:42 -0500
Re: Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes "Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> - 2015-09-20 14:53 -0500
Re: Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes "Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> - 2015-09-20 18:23 -0500
Re: Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes "Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> - 2015-09-21 07:17 -0500
Re: Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes "Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> - 2015-09-21 16:07 -0500
Re: Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes "Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> - 2015-09-21 16:42 -0500
Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes "Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> - 2015-09-19 11:24 -0500
Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2015-09-19 11:45 -0500
Re: Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes Topaz <mars1933@hotmail.com> - 2015-09-17 16:15 -0500
Re: Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> - 2015-09-18 05:59 +0200
Re: Re: Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes Topaz <mars1933@hotmail.com> - 2015-09-18 17:38 -0500
Re: Re: Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> - 2015-09-19 07:02 +0200
Re: Re: Re: Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes Topaz <mars1933@hotmail.com> - 2015-09-19 04:13 -0500
Re: Re: Re: Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> - 2015-09-19 21:26 +0200
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes Topaz <mars1933@hotmail.com> - 2015-09-20 04:13 -0500
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> - 2015-09-20 21:31 +0200
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes Topaz <mars1933@hotmail.com> - 2015-09-21 17:31 -0500
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> - 2015-09-22 07:57 +0200
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes Topaz <mars1933@hotmail.com> - 2015-09-22 16:01 -0500
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes "Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> - 2015-09-22 16:19 -0500
Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2015-09-20 05:11 -0500
Re: Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes Topaz <mars1933@hotmail.com> - 2015-09-21 17:40 -0500
Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2015-09-22 04:53 -0500
Re: Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes Topaz <mars1933@hotmail.com> - 2015-09-17 16:11 -0500
Re: Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes Topaz <mars1933@hotmail.com> - 2015-09-16 16:15 -0500
Re: Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> - 2015-09-17 06:36 +0200
Re: Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes "\"Fakey's\" dogwhistle holder living at 5907 Stanton Ave., Pittsburgh, PA (aka Teh Mop Jockey), socked up as 5907 Stanton Avenue, Pittsburgh, PA 15206-2117" <root@127.0.0.1> - 2015-09-17 01:12 -0400
Re: Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> - 2015-09-18 06:44 +0200
Re: Re: Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes Topaz <mars1933@hotmail.com> - 2015-09-18 17:39 -0500
Re: Re: Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> - 2015-09-19 06:31 +0200
Re: Re: Re: Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes Topaz <mars1933@hotmail.com> - 2015-09-19 04:15 -0500
Re: Re: Re: Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> - 2015-09-19 22:36 +0200
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes Topaz <mars1933@hotmail.com> - 2015-09-20 04:14 -0500
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> - 2015-09-20 20:04 +0200
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes Topaz <mars1933@hotmail.com> - 2015-09-21 17:41 -0500
Re: Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> - 2015-09-19 06:41 +0200
Re: Re: Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes Topaz <mars1933@hotmail.com> - 2015-09-19 04:17 -0500
Re: Re: Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> - 2015-09-19 22:11 +0200
Re: Re: Re: Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes Topaz <mars1933@hotmail.com> - 2015-09-20 04:14 -0500
Re: Re: Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes "Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> - 2015-09-21 13:07 -0500
Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2015-09-22 04:53 -0500
Re: Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> - 2015-09-21 18:25 +0200
Re: Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes "\"Fakey's\" dogwhistle holder living at 5907 Stanton Ave., Pittsburgh, PA (aka Teh Mop Jockey), socked up as 5907 Stanton Avenue, Pittsburgh, PA 15206-2117" <root@127.0.0.1> - 2015-09-21 20:27 -0400
Re: Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> - 2015-09-22 07:36 +0200
Re: Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes "\"Fakey's\" dogwhistle holder living at 5907 Stanton Ave., Pittsburgh, PA (aka Teh Mop Jockey), socked up as 5907 Stanton Avenue, Pittsburgh, PA 15206-2117" <root@127.0.0.1> - 2015-09-22 10:28 -0400
Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes snipe@spambin.fsnet.co.uk (Sn!pe, DoW #2) - 2015-09-22 17:47 +0100
9/11/01 - There were no planes, Pt. 2 Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> - 2015-09-23 05:27 +0200
9/11/01 - There were no planes, Pt. 1 Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> - 2015-09-23 06:09 +0200
Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes, Pt. 1 "\"Fakey's\" dogwhistle holder living at 5907 Stanton Ave., Pittsburgh, PA (aka Teh Mop Jockey), socked up as 5907 Stanton Avenue, Pittsburgh, PA 15206-2117" <root@127.0.0.1> - 2015-09-23 20:22 -0400
Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes, Pt. 1b Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> - 2015-09-24 06:53 +0200
Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes, Pt. 1b "\"Fakey's\" dogwhistle holder living at 5907 Stanton Ave., Pittsburgh, PA (aka Teh Mop Jockey), socked up as 5907 Stanton Avenue, Pittsburgh, PA 15206-2117" <root@127.0.0.1> - 2015-09-24 01:49 -0400
Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes, Pt. 1b Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> - 2015-09-25 07:33 +0200
Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes, Pt. 1a Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> - 2015-09-24 06:59 +0200
Re: Re: Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes Topaz <mars1933@hotmail.com> - 2015-09-17 16:27 -0500
Re: Re: Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes "\"Fakey's\" dogwhistle holder living at 5907 Stanton Ave., Pittsburgh, PA (aka Teh Mop Jockey), socked up as 5907 Stanton Avenue, Pittsburgh, PA 15206-2117" <root@127.0.0.1> - 2015-09-17 17:38 -0400
no asbestos cladding on the main beams noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2015-09-17 16:38 -0700
Re: Re: Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> - 2015-09-18 05:59 +0200
if the planes were not bombs, or if they were bombs noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2015-09-18 11:21 -0700
Re: Re: Re: Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes Topaz <mars1933@hotmail.com> - 2015-09-18 17:42 -0500
Re: Re: Re: Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> - 2015-09-19 06:36 +0200
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes Topaz <mars1933@hotmail.com> - 2015-09-19 04:19 -0500
Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> - 2015-09-16 07:48 +0200
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> - 2015-09-15 04:18 +0200
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes Topaz <mars1933@hotmail.com> - 2015-09-15 15:55 -0500
Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes gilber34 <invalid@invalid.com> - 2015-09-15 17:03 -0500
Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2015-09-15 22:06 -0500
Re: Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes Topaz <mars1933@hotmail.com> - 2015-09-16 16:38 -0500
Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2015-09-17 04:01 -0500
Re: Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes Topaz <mars1933@hotmail.com> - 2015-09-17 16:36 -0500
Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2015-09-17 21:07 -0500
Re: Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes Topaz <mars1933@hotmail.com> - 2015-09-18 17:44 -0500
Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2015-09-19 03:41 -0500
Re: Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes Topaz <mars1933@hotmail.com> - 2015-09-19 04:21 -0500
Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2015-09-19 05:09 -0500
Re: Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes Topaz <mars1933@hotmail.com> - 2015-09-20 04:20 -0500
Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2015-09-20 05:14 -0500
Re: Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes Topaz <mars1933@hotmail.com> - 2015-09-21 17:56 -0500
Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2015-09-22 04:53 -0500
Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes je suis charly <charlie-gordon1492@no.where> - 2015-09-22 03:28 -0700
Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2015-09-23 03:36 -0500
9/11/01 - There were no planes Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> - 2015-09-16 07:37 +0200
Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes Topaz <mars1933@hotmail.com> - 2015-09-16 16:42 -0500
Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes "Sir Gregory Hall, Esq." <greghall@yacht_master.fake> - 2015-09-16 17:46 -0400
Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes "Checkmate, DoW #1" <Lunatic.Fringe@The.Edge> - 2015-09-16 21:06 -0700
Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes "\"Fakey's\" dogwhistle holder living at 5907 Stanton Ave., Pittsburgh, PA (aka Teh Mop Jockey), socked up as 5907 Stanton Avenue, Pittsburgh, PA 15206-2117" <root@127.0.0.1> - 2015-09-17 00:30 -0400
Re: Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes Topaz <mars1933@hotmail.com> - 2015-09-17 16:38 -0500
Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes "Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> - 2015-09-16 17:59 -0500
Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> - 2015-09-17 07:11 +0200
Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes "Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> - 2015-09-14 00:05 -0500
Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> - 2015-09-14 17:06 +0200
Re: Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes Topaz <mars1933@hotmail.com> - 2015-09-14 15:57 -0500
Re: Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes "Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> - 2015-09-14 16:31 -0500
Re: Re: Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes Topaz <mars1933@hotmail.com> - 2015-09-15 16:06 -0500
Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes gilber34 <invalid@invalid.com> - 2015-09-16 12:09 -0500
Re: Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes Topaz <mars1933@hotmail.com> - 2015-09-16 16:47 -0500
Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes gilber34 <invalid@invalid.com> - 2015-09-11 17:20 -0500
Re: Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes Topaz <mars1933@hotmail.com> - 2015-09-12 05:36 -0500
Re: Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes "\"Fakey's\" dogwhistle holder living at 5907 Stanton Ave., Pittsburgh, PA (aka Teh Mop Jockey), socked up as 5907 Stanton Avenue, Pittsburgh, PA 15206-2117" <root@127.0.0.1> - 2015-09-12 08:02 -0400
Re: Re: Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes Topaz <mars1933@hotmail.com> - 2015-09-13 05:42 -0500
Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes Siri Cruz <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2015-09-13 04:18 -0700
Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes "Checkmate, DoW #1" <Lunatic.Fringe@The.Edge> - 2015-09-13 04:45 -0700
Re: Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes Topaz <mars1933@hotmail.com> - 2015-09-14 16:04 -0500
Re: Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes Topaz <mars1933@hotmail.com> - 2015-09-14 16:03 -0500
Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes Siri Cruz <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2015-09-14 14:19 -0700
Re: Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes Topaz <mars1933@hotmail.com> - 2015-09-15 16:17 -0500
Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2015-09-15 22:06 -0500
Re: Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes Topaz <mars1933@hotmail.com> - 2015-09-16 16:54 -0500
Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes Siri Cruz <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2015-09-16 16:01 -0700
Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes "Checkmate, DoW #1" <Lunatic.Fringe@The.Edge> - 2015-09-16 21:08 -0700
Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2015-09-17 04:02 -0500
Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes Siri Cruz <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2015-09-17 02:12 -0700
Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes "Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> - 2015-09-17 13:33 -0500
Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes Siri Cruz <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2015-09-17 13:45 -0700
Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2015-09-17 21:06 -0500
Re: Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes Topaz <mars1933@hotmail.com> - 2015-09-17 16:45 -0500
Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2015-09-17 21:06 -0500
Re: Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes Topaz <mars1933@hotmail.com> - 2015-09-18 17:46 -0500
Re: Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> - 2015-09-19 06:25 +0200
Re: Re: Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes Topaz <mars1933@hotmail.com> - 2015-09-19 04:22 -0500
Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes gilber34 <invalid@invalid.com> - 2015-09-16 11:32 -0500
Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes Stagger Lee <stag@nomail.invalid> - 2015-09-16 12:40 -0400
Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes Stagger Lee <stag@nomail.invalid> - 2015-09-16 15:28 -0400
Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes Siri Cruz <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2015-09-16 14:10 -0700
Re: Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes Topaz <mars1933@hotmail.com> - 2015-09-16 16:56 -0500
Re: Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2015-09-16 14:19 -0700
Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes "reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2015-09-10 14:04 -0700
no bombs that were not planes e.g noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2015-09-10 19:24 -0700
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| From | Topaz <mars1933@hotmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-09-16 16:15 -0500 |
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On Tue, 15 Sep 2015 17:34:44 -0400, Sarah Ehrett <ninety7gt@cox.net> wrote: > >It didn't melt steel it WEAKENED IT. > >It isn't rocket science to know that if you heat steel it WEAKENS it. >WEAKENED steel will fail. When it can no longer hold a load failure >occurs. > For one thing that wouldn't quickly collapse the whole building. And a lot of steel did melt. This youtube video is absolute proof: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h7S9bnd_pnY www.tomatobubble.com www.ihr.org http://nationalvanguard.org http://national-socialist-worldview.blogspot.com
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| From | Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> |
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| Date | 2015-09-17 06:36 +0200 |
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Time to spin the kooks up again. Melt, kooks, melt. <snicker> Topaz, in <news:1bmjva9oh48ftbi97hv598lnduqbqrhj2p@4ax.com> did thusly jump head first into the wood chipper again: > On Tue, 15 Sep 2015 17:34:44 -0400, Sarah Ehrett <ninety7gt@cox.net> > wrote: >> It didn't melt steel it WEAKENED IT. >> >> It isn't rocket science to know that if you heat steel it WEAKENS it. >> WEAKENED steel will fail. When it can no longer hold a load failure >> occurs. > For one thing that wouldn't quickly collapse the whole building. And a > lot of steel did melt. This youtube video is absolute proof: > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h7S9bnd_pnY I see no molten steel in that entire video. I see a large ball of what was once molten metal, with no analysis of where it came from. Of course, structural steel wasn't the only steel in the twin towers. There was plenty of very low-grade steel in office furniture. Steel loses a significant amount of its strength just before it starts to glow a dull red (approx.900 deg.F). We know the temperature reached at least 950 F because the aircraft frames melted. 2219-T81 aircraft grade aluminum melts at 950 F. Heated to a bright orange (nowhere near the melting point), steel enters a "plastic" state. Exceptions are specialized steel alloys which have outstanding heat tolerance, but are much too costly to frame a building with. I find it strange that we have reports of "molten steel" (likely not structural steel, but cheaper, lower grade steel in office furniture and interior finish materials... imagine how many office chairs alone there were, likely at least 250 per floor... and almost all of them made of very low-grade steel... at just 5 pounds per chair or table, that's half a ton of very low-grade steel per floor), yet no actual pictures of same... not even any pictures of that "molten steel" being pulled out of the ground. Plenty of pictures of incandescently hot steel being pulled out of the ground... no molten steel. Whoopsie: <http://www.skyscrapersafety.org/html/article_20040619.html> 9/11 cops saw collapse coming ========================================================= The World Trade Center towers showed telltale signs they were about to collapse several minutes before each crumbled to the ground, scientists probing the Sept. 11, 2001, disaster said yesterday. In the case of the north tower, police chopper pilots reported seeing the warning signs - an inward bowing of the building facade - at least eight minutes before it collapsed at 10:29 a.m. ========================================================= <http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=newsarchive&sid=aCuh.ATdfOXc&refer=top_world_news> ========================================================= Federal engineering investigators studying the destruction of the World Trade Center's twin towers on Sept. 11 said New York Police Department aviation units reported an inward bowing of the buildings' columns in the minutes before they collapsed, a signal they were about to fall. ``No evidence has been found to suggest the information was communicated to all emergency responders at the scene,'' said an executive summary of a progress report by the National Institute of Standards and Technology, which is conducting the study. Investigators also found evidence that the south tower, which fell 56 minutes after it was struck by terrorists in a hijacked commercial jet, had less fire proofing than the north tower, which held up for about double the time after it was hit. ========================================================= <http://www.debunking911.com/moltensteel.htm> <http://www.debunking911.com/debris.jpg> See the sagging floor beams in the picture above? Just as I said, the floor spars sagged, ripped apart the viscoelastic dampers, which removed the horizontal support for the outer truss frame. The truss frame at the top-most mechanical room floor (where all the truss frame sections were inexplicably joined at one floor... they were staggered on every other floor to increase strength) bore the load of the increased weight on the truss frame until the two 5/8" bolts joining each truss frame section together broke. This left the entire truss frame above that mechanical room floor disconnected, hanging off the top-hat truss, which transferred all that weight to the central column and magnified the buckling force upon the central column. The fire heat-weakened the central column, which buckled, transferring some of the weight back onto the truss frame and ripping even more of the viscoelastic dampers. The truss frame collapsed at that mechanical room floor (which can be seen in some of the videos immediately prior to the whole-building collapse), and it collapsed slightly sideways due to the hole left by the aircraft impact. The collapse of the truss frame at the mechanical room floor triggered the cascading whole-building collapse, and the angle at which the upper truss frame collapsed dragged the building slightly off-center as it fell, leaving behind the surviving staircase at the base of the building because it was outside the 'fall shadow' of the building. That pretty much negates you kook's "controlled demolition" blather. You moron. <snicker> -- Roger T.E. Wittekind PO Box 471 167 40th Avenue East Moline, IL 61244 309-755-6374 309-755-6394 Roger Wittekind the woman-stalking failed truck driver from East Moline, IL. Roger Wittekind (aka Rocky), your brain is grasping at straws in trying to avoid admitting *you* *are* *wrong*, and as your brain becomes more and more desperate to avoid the truth we promulgate (which utterly demolishes your kook conspiracy theory), it makes larger and larger leaps of illogic. For instance: ============================= A) You said the satellite uplink inteference seen in the WCBS video *you* *provided* was a nuke EMP, so your broken brain told you they must have buried nukes under the twin towers. Being a simpleton, you believed they just dug shallow holes, dropped the nukes in, smoothed over the concrete and walked away for 33 years. B) Your timing on the WCBS video *you* *provided* between the satellite uplink interference (what you deemed to be a "nuke EMP") and the tower shaking being 12 seconds (it was actually 14 seconds, but kooks can't count) means your supposed nukes had to have been buried from 37.28 to 96.93 *miles* below the surface (dependent upon soil composition and thus speed of compressive blast transmission). Never mind that we don't have the technology to drill that deep even today, let alone in 1968. Your broken brain had to yet again change your kooky little conspiracy theory to at least try to orient itself at some acute angle to reality. So no "dug a shallow hole, dropped the nukes in, covered it up, walked away for 33 years" anymore, now it was "dug an impossibly deep hole, dropped the nukes in, covered it up, walked away for 33 years". C) You're such a simpleton you didn't realize nukes require periodic replacement of their neutron-source trigger, which naturally radioactively decays over time, building up the decay byproduct xenon, which absorbs neutrons. It's called xenon poisoning. So your broken brain told you that someone had to service those nukes to keep the triggers viable... which means your broken brain was thus *forced* to change from "dug a shallow hole, dropped the nukes in, covered it up, walked away for 33 years", to "dug an impossibly deep hole, dropped the nukes in, covered it up, walked away for 33 years", to "built an entire *facility* impossibly deep under the WTC, complete with service personnel and" "4 blast doors to keep the explosion from getting back into the area the nukes were maintained" (your words). D) Your broken brain then said there were 19 nukes instead of your original 3, because you knew there were 19 instances of satellite uplink interference in the WCBS video *you* *provided*, in which you k'lamed one of the instances of satellite uplink interference was an EMP. And if you k'lame one of them is an EMP, they *all* must be EMPs, so your broken brain now tells you there were 19 nukes detonated in rapid succession... completely ignoring the fact that even one nuke detonation would plunge the city into darkness due to EMP burning out electrical substations, and completely ignoring the fact that no nuclear detonation byproducts were found in the rubble, in the vicinity of the rubble, or anywhere in NYC. E) Now that your broken brain was convinced that the nukes were buried deeply, of course, they had a very wide blast radius, which screwed up your kooky k'lame that they were used to demolish WTC1 and WTC2, but somehow missed WTC3 and WTC4... so your broken brain conceived that the nuclear weapons could somehow dig themselves up from that miles-deep facility to just below the WTC towers prior to exploding, in order to make their cone of destruction smaller. Nevermind that your broken brain said they dug through 37.28 to 96.93 *miles* of *solid* *bedrock* in *12* *seconds*. LOL F) So I've led you by the nose in a full circle... if those bombs your broken brain is telling you existed *did* dig their way up to underneath the WTC twin towers before detonating (they didn't... first because there were no nukes, second because it'd be impossible, but for the sake of argument, we'll continue), that leads right back to your calculation of the time between your claimed "EMP" (the satellite uplink interference on the WCBS video *you* *provided*) and the time the building shook, which is pretty much where we started. So I've proven by drop-kicking your retarded ass around the perimeter of sanity full-circle that you're insane. LOL G) Realizing the utter ridiculousness of your kook blather above, your broken brain has backpedaled and expanded your delusion even more as a desperate attempt at attaining some semblance of plausibility... saying there were 34 mini-nukes, and they were within and underneath the twin towers. If those 34 nukes you claim existed *did* explode, where are the nuclear detonation byproducts? The highly radioactive metal? The radiation burns and radiation sickness of people in the vicinity? Where are the nuclear detonation signature seismographs? Why did the electrical grid, all electronics and all vehicles survive not just one but *34* nuclear EMPs? And what about that timing between the WCBS video satellite uplink interference (what you claimed was "EMP") and the shaking of the tower? That's now off by 14 whole seconds, just as it was when your kooky conspiracy theory began. LOL H) Now you're saying the OKC bombing was nuclear in nature (MID: <e3f0e4f638e69c3db43076c8b842db91@dizum.com>), and a new era of widespread nuclear terrorism has arrived... proof positive that you're off your meds, Roget Wittekind. I) To back up yor "nuclear terrorism era" k'lame in H) above, you're now further k'laming there is such a thing as a magical "detonator" that causes a nuclear weapon to be a "clean nuke" which expulses no EMP and leaves no radiological contamination... heaping proof upon proof that you're off your meds, Roger Wittekind. J) To explain away the lack of any evidence of your k'lame of a "nuclear terrorism era", your broken brain has conceived that your magical nukes are employing "Hushaboom technology" (your words) to silence them. K) Your broken brain has now stated (MID: <YtWdnQvC1PTFNWjInZ2dnUU7-NmdnZ2d@giganews.com>) that "liquid freon in the air conditioners helped to turn the nuke into a themo [sic] nuclear bomb" (your words). Complete and utter nonsense from your thoroughly broken schizophrenic brain, Roger. IOW, your broken brain is far too stupid to discern fantasy from reality, so you've caught yourself in an unresolvable logic hole. And the harder you try to resolve it, the more you run around in little tard-circles, banging your head with your fist and doing your very best Rainman impersonation. I can twist your brain into a Gordian Knot with my knowledge. And I've just barely even started, I haven't even worked up a sweat yet. ============================= Kook. LOL
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| From | "\"Fakey's\" dogwhistle holder living at 5907 Stanton Ave., Pittsburgh, PA (aka Teh Mop Jockey), socked up as 5907 Stanton Avenue, Pittsburgh, PA 15206-2117" <root@127.0.0.1> |
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| Date | 2015-09-17 01:12 -0400 |
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On Thu, 17 Sep 2015 00:36:30 -0400, Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> wrote: > Time to spin the kooks up again. Melt, kooks, melt. <snicker> > > Topaz, in <news:1bmjva9oh48ftbi97hv598lnduqbqrhj2p@4ax.com> did thusly > jump head first into the wood chipper again: > >> On Tue, 15 Sep 2015 17:34:44 -0400, Sarah Ehrett <ninety7gt@cox.net> >> wrote: > >>> It didn't melt steel it WEAKENED IT. >>> >>> It isn't rocket science to know that if you heat steel it WEAKENS it. >>> WEAKENED steel will fail. When it can no longer hold a load failure >>> occurs. > >> For one thing that wouldn't quickly collapse the whole building. And a >> lot of steel did melt. This youtube video is absolute proof: >> >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h7S9bnd_pnY > > I see no molten steel in that entire video. I see a large ball of what > was once molten metal, with no analysis of where it came from. Of > course, structural steel wasn't the only steel in the twin towers. > There was plenty of very low-grade steel in office furniture. > > Steel loses a significant amount of its strength just before it starts > to glow a dull red (approx.900 deg.F). We know the temperature reached > at least 950 F because the aircraft frames melted. 2219-T81 aircraft > grade aluminum melts at 950 F. > > Heated to a bright orange (nowhere near the melting point), steel > enters a "plastic" state. Exceptions are specialized steel alloys > which have outstanding heat tolerance, but are much too costly to > frame a building with. > > I find it strange that we have reports of "molten steel" (likely not > structural steel, but cheaper, lower grade steel in office furniture > and interior finish materials... imagine how many office chairs alone > there were, likely at least 250 per floor... and almost all of them > made of very low-grade steel... at just 5 pounds per chair or table, > that's half a ton of very low-grade steel per floor), yet no actual > pictures of same... not even any pictures of that "molten steel" being > pulled out of the ground. Plenty of pictures of incandescently hot > steel being pulled out of the ground... no molten steel. > > Whoopsie: > <http://www.skyscrapersafety.org/html/article_20040619.html> > 9/11 cops saw collapse coming > ========================================================= > The World Trade Center towers showed telltale signs they were about to > collapse several minutes before each crumbled to the ground, > scientists probing the Sept. 11, 2001, disaster said yesterday. > > In the case of the north tower, police chopper pilots reported seeing > the warning signs - an inward bowing of the building facade - at least > eight minutes before it collapsed at 10:29 a.m. > ========================================================= > > <http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=newsarchive&sid=aCuh.ATdfOXc&refer=top_world_news> > ========================================================= > Federal engineering investigators studying the destruction of the > World Trade Center's twin towers on Sept. 11 said New York Police > Department aviation units reported an inward bowing of the buildings' > columns in the minutes before they collapsed, a signal they were about > to fall. > > ``No evidence has been found to suggest the information was > communicated to all emergency responders at the scene,'' said an > executive summary of a progress report by the National Institute of > Standards and Technology, which is conducting the study. > > Investigators also found evidence that the south tower, which fell 56 > minutes after it was struck by terrorists in a hijacked commercial > jet, had less fire proofing than the north tower, which held up for > about double the time after it was hit. > ========================================================= > > <http://www.debunking911.com/moltensteel.htm> > <http://www.debunking911.com/debris.jpg> > See the sagging floor beams in the picture above? Just as I said, the > floor spars sagged, ripped apart the viscoelastic dampers, which > removed the horizontal support for the outer truss frame. The truss > frame at the top-most mechanical room floor (where all the truss frame > sections were inexplicably joined at one floor... they were staggered > on every other floor to increase strength) bore the load of the > increased weight on the truss frame until the two 5/8" bolts joining > each truss frame section together broke. This left the entire truss > frame above that mechanical room floor disconnected, hanging off the > top-hat truss, which transferred all that weight to the central column > and magnified the buckling force upon the central column. The fire > heat-weakened the central column, which buckled, transferring some of > the weight back onto the truss frame and ripping even more of the > viscoelastic dampers. The truss frame collapsed at that mechanical > room floor (which can be seen in some of the videos immediately prior > to the whole-building collapse), and it collapsed slightly sideways > due to the hole left by the aircraft impact. The collapse of the truss > frame at the mechanical room floor triggered the cascading > whole-building collapse, and the angle at which the upper truss frame > collapsed dragged the building slightly off-center as it fell, leaving > behind the surviving staircase at the base of the building because it > was outside the 'fall shadow' of the building. > > That pretty much negates you kook's "controlled demolition" blather. > > You moron. > > <snicker> > i've molten steel with as little as 220 volts plus some current. i wonder how much stored kinetic energy in all those floors of carpets, wood, desks, paper, plastic, charred humans, and a little bit of 2 exploded planes had in it? has anybody ever wagered a guess? also, has anybody here ever put a "chimney log" over a fire? the difference in pressure at the top and bottom of a chimney-like object in a fire seems to have some sort of "strange" effect on the rate of oxidation. hmm... -- http://i.imgur.com/2tH6zVB.jpg http://cafepress.com/kooktown http://i.imgur.com/pnWqhSG.jpg If my poasts are offensive to you, you can always block all From: headers containing "root@127.0.0.1", unless you are an idiot who would like to yammer about "morphing" and maybe try to lodge some frivolous complaints to my news provider, then please be sure to ignore this helpful information and have fun making an ass of yourself in public. :) if that route of silencing those horrid opinions of mine that you downloaded to your computer under duress doesn't work you can always try: http://i.imgur.com/jlsN9JX.png?2 http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Gish_Gallop The Gish Gallop is often used as an indirect argument from authority — as it appears to paint the galloper as an expert in a broad range of subjects or with an extensive knowledge of an individual one. Simultaneously it presents opponents (in spoken debates) or refuters (in written, Internet-based ones) as incompetent bumblers who didn't do their homework before the debate. Such emphasis on style over substance is the reason many scientists disdain public debates as a forum for disseminating opinions. - Page #1 from the Gospel of SnickerTurd --
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| From | Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> |
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| Date | 2015-09-18 06:44 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <6428b55dad79068f352eae9c201769a6@dizum.com> |
| In reply to | #521603 |
Time to spin the kooks up again. Melt, kooks, melt. <snicker>
Robert M. Wolfe the Pittsburgh Pied Piper Of Penis (aka DildoRider) of
5907 Stanton Ave., Pittsburgh, PA (aka Teh Mop Jockey), socked up as
root@127.0.0.1, in <news:op.x43crnfwtm21m2@benson.localhost> did
thusly jump head first into the wood chipper again:
> On Thu, 17 Sep 2015 00:36:30 -0400, Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler
> Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> wrote:
>> Time to spin the kooks up again. Melt, kooks, melt. <snicker>
>>
>> Topaz, in <news:1bmjva9oh48ftbi97hv598lnduqbqrhj2p@4ax.com> did thusly
>> jump head first into the wood chipper again:
>>> On Tue, 15 Sep 2015 17:34:44 -0400, Sarah Ehrett <ninety7gt@cox.net>
>>> wrote:
>>>> It didn't melt steel it WEAKENED IT.
>>>>
>>>> It isn't rocket science to know that if you heat steel it WEAKENS it.
>>>> WEAKENED steel will fail. When it can no longer hold a load failure
>>>> occurs.
>>> For one thing that wouldn't quickly collapse the whole building. And a
>>> lot of steel did melt. This youtube video is absolute proof:
>>>
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h7S9bnd_pnY
>> I see no molten steel in that entire video. I see a large ball of what
>> was once molten metal, with no analysis of where it came from. Of
>> course, structural steel wasn't the only steel in the twin towers.
>> There was plenty of very low-grade steel in office furniture.
>>
>> Steel loses a significant amount of its strength just before it starts
>> to glow a dull red (approx.900 deg.F). We know the temperature reached
>> at least 950 F because the aircraft frames melted. 2219-T81 aircraft
>> grade aluminum melts at 950 F.
>>
>> Heated to a bright orange (nowhere near the melting point), steel
>> enters a "plastic" state. Exceptions are specialized steel alloys
>> which have outstanding heat tolerance, but are much too costly to
>> frame a building with.
>>
>> I find it strange that we have reports of "molten steel" (likely not
>> structural steel, but cheaper, lower grade steel in office furniture
>> and interior finish materials... imagine how many office chairs alone
>> there were, likely at least 250 per floor... and almost all of them
>> made of very low-grade steel... at just 5 pounds per chair or table,
>> that's half a ton of very low-grade steel per floor), yet no actual
>> pictures of same... not even any pictures of that "molten steel" being
>> pulled out of the ground. Plenty of pictures of incandescently hot
>> steel being pulled out of the ground... no molten steel.
>>
>> Whoopsie:
>> <http://www.skyscrapersafety.org/html/article_20040619.html>
>> 9/11 cops saw collapse coming
>> =========================================================
>> The World Trade Center towers showed telltale signs they were about to
>> collapse several minutes before each crumbled to the ground,
>> scientists probing the Sept. 11, 2001, disaster said yesterday.
>>
>> In the case of the north tower, police chopper pilots reported seeing
>> the warning signs - an inward bowing of the building facade - at least
>> eight minutes before it collapsed at 10:29 a.m.
>> =========================================================
>>
>> <http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=newsarchive&sid=aCuh.ATdfOXc&refer=top_world_news>
>> =========================================================
>> Federal engineering investigators studying the destruction of the
>> World Trade Center's twin towers on Sept. 11 said New York Police
>> Department aviation units reported an inward bowing of the buildings'
>> columns in the minutes before they collapsed, a signal they were about
>> to fall.
>>
>> ``No evidence has been found to suggest the information was
>> communicated to all emergency responders at the scene,'' said an
>> executive summary of a progress report by the National Institute of
>> Standards and Technology, which is conducting the study.
>>
>> Investigators also found evidence that the south tower, which fell 56
>> minutes after it was struck by terrorists in a hijacked commercial
>> jet, had less fire proofing than the north tower, which held up for
>> about double the time after it was hit.
>> =========================================================
>>
>> <http://www.debunking911.com/moltensteel.htm>
>> <http://www.debunking911.com/debris.jpg>
>> See the sagging floor beams in the picture above? Just as I said, the
>> floor spars sagged, ripped apart the viscoelastic dampers, which
>> removed the horizontal support for the outer truss frame. The truss
>> frame at the top-most mechanical room floor (where all the truss frame
>> sections were inexplicably joined at one floor... they were staggered
>> on every other floor to increase strength) bore the load of the
>> increased weight on the truss frame until the two 5/8" bolts joining
>> each truss frame section together broke. This left the entire truss
>> frame above that mechanical room floor disconnected, hanging off the
>> top-hat truss, which transferred all that weight to the central column
>> and magnified the buckling force upon the central column. The fire
>> heat-weakened the central column, which buckled, transferring some of
>> the weight back onto the truss frame and ripping even more of the
>> viscoelastic dampers. The truss frame collapsed at that mechanical
>> room floor (which can be seen in some of the videos immediately prior
>> to the whole-building collapse), and it collapsed slightly sideways
>> due to the hole left by the aircraft impact. The collapse of the truss
>> frame at the mechanical room floor triggered the cascading
>> whole-building collapse, and the angle at which the upper truss frame
>> collapsed dragged the building slightly off-center as it fell, leaving
>> behind the surviving staircase at the base of the building because it
>> was outside the 'fall shadow' of the building.
>>
>> That pretty much negates you kook's "controlled demolition" blather.
>>
>> You moron.
>>
>> <snicker>
> i've molten steel with as little as 220 volts plus some current.
You can melt steel with a Bic lighter. Get a steel scrubbing sponge
and a lighter and try it out. You'll also see tiny metal balls form,
just as was found at the WTC site... strange that some of the
insulation in the towers was rock wool, eh?
<http://www.slg.jp/e/slag/product/rockwool.html>
<snicker>
> i wonder
> how much stored kinetic energy in all those floors of carpets, wood,
> desks, paper, plastic, charred humans, and a little bit of 2 exploded
> planes had in it? has anybody ever wagered a guess?
250 to 300 GigaJoules per tower, or a total of 138 MWh to 166 MWh. Or
approximately enough energy to fuel one person at 2000 kilocalories
per day for 196 years. IOW, a great fucking lot of energy. And that
doesn't even take into account the amount of heat gained from burning
material, that's just the potential energy of the building converting
to heat.
http://www.debunking911.com/moltensteel.htm
At 32,000 sq feet of tenant space per floor and at 4lbs per sq ft of
combustible material (at 5 lbs per sq ft NIST found that the fires
moved too slowly) for 110 floors (-6 floors for mechanical + 6 for
underground) is equal to 14 Million POUNDS of combustible material. Or
7,000 TONS. Clearly a RESPECTABLE amount of burnable material per
TOWER. Thus the rubble pile had ~ 28 MILLION POUNDS of combustible
material not including what was in the Marriot hotel and its parking
garage.
**BEGIN PROGRAM**
# Demonstrates the kinetic energy of the WTC collapses, to debunk 9/11
conspiracies # http://www.geocities.com/debunking911/moltensteel.htm
#
#!/usr/bin/perl
#
# Variables for calculations
$m = 4285500; # mass of one floor (kg)
$mt = 0; # mass of falling section
$v1 = 0; # beginning velocity for the current step
$v2 = 0; # velocity at impact
$v3 = 0; # ending velocity for prior step $p = 0; # current momentum
$ke1 = 0; # kinetic energy at impact
$ke2 = 0; # kinetic energy after impact
$de = 0; # total energy dissipated so far $a = 9.80665; # acceleration
of gravity (constant) $t = 0; # cumulative time taken
$t1 = 0; # time taken for this step
$d = 3.8; # distance between floors (418m/110 stories) $mt = $fc*$m; #
initialize mass of falling section # # Calculations for WTC Tower One
$fc = 13; # floor count of falling section (13 floors for WTC One)
$rfc = 110 - $fc; # initialize remaining floor count of uncollapsed
floors print("Data for WTC Tower One\n"); print("\n"); while($rfc > 0)
{ print("Data for story ", $rfc, " -\n");
$v1 = $v3; # starting velocity is ending for last step
$v2 = (($v1*2)+((2*$a)*$d))**0.5; # impact velocity for this step by
formula print("Impact velocity: ", $v2, "\n"); $p = $mt*$v2; #
momentum at impact print("Impulse delivered: ", $p, "\n");
$ke1 = ($mt*($v2**2))/2; # kinetic energy at impact print("Impact
kinetic energy: ", $ke1, "\n"); $fc++; # increment falling floor count
$mt = $fc*$m; # update mass of falling section
$v3 = $p/$mt; # new velocity
print("Velocity after impact: ", $v3, "\n");
$ke2 = ($mt*($v3**2))/2; # kinetic energy after impact
print("Remaining kinetic energy: ", $ke2, "\n"); $de += $ke1 - $ke2; #
add dissipated kinetic energy to total print("Kinetic energy
dissipated: ", $ke1 - $ke2, "\n");
$t1 = $d/(($v2 + $v1)/2); # time for this step by formula print("Time
spent collapsing: ", $t1, "\n"); $t += $t1; # add step time to running
total $rfc--; # decrement remaining floor count print("\n"); }
print("Overall WTC Tower One data -\n"); print("Total collapse time:
", $t, "\n"); print("Total energy dissipated during the collapse: ",
$de, "\n"); print("Remaining kinetic energy at the end of the
collapse: ", $ke2, "\n"); print("\n"); # # Calculations for WTC Tower
Two $fc = 39; # floor count of falling section (39 floors for WTC Two)
$rfc = 110 - $fc; # initialize remaining floor count of uncollapsed
floors print("Data for WTC Tower Two\n"); print("\n"); while($rfc > 0)
{ print("Data for story ", $rfc, " -\n");
$v1 = $v3; # starting velocity is ending for last step
$v2 = (($v1*2)+((2*$a)*$d))**0.5; # impact velocity for this step by
formula print("Impact velocity: ", $v2, "\n"); $p = $mt*$v2; #
momentum at impact print("Impulse delivered: ", $p, "\n");
$ke1 = ($mt*($v2**2))/2; # kinetic energy at impact print("Impact
kinetic energy: ", $ke1, "\n"); $fc++; # increment falling floor count
$mt = $fc*$m; # update mass of falling section
$v3 = $p/$mt; # new velocity
print("Velocity after impact: ", $v3, "\n");
$ke2 = ($mt*($v3**2))/2; # kinetic energy after impact
print("Remaining kinetic energy: ", $ke2, "\n"); $de += $ke1 - $ke2; #
add dissipated kinetic energy to total print("Kinetic energy
dissipated: ", $ke1 - $ke2, "\n");
$t1 = $d/(($v2 + $v1)/2); # time for this step by formula print("Time
spent collapsing: ", $t1, "\n"); $t += $t1; # add step time to running
total $rfc--; # decrement remaining floor count print("\n"); }
print("Overall WTC Tower Two data -\n"); print("Total collapse time:
", $t, "\n"); print("Total energy dissipated during the collapse: ",
$de, "\n"); print("Remaining kinetic energy at the end of the
collapse: ", $ke2, "\n");
**END PROGRAM**
> also, has anybody here ever put a "chimney log" over a fire?
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5I4nYRIMIsA>
> the difference in pressure at the top and bottom of a chimney-like object
> in a fire seems to have some sort of "strange" effect on the rate of
> oxidation.
Not strange except to retards who don't understand that the faster a
fire gets oxygen, the faster it burns. Thanks for admitting you're one
of those retards, DildoRider.
> hmm...
<snicker>
--
Roger T.E. Wittekind
PO Box 471
167 40th Avenue
East Moline, IL 61244
309-755-6374
309-755-6394
Roger Wittekind the woman-stalking failed truck driver from East
Moline, IL.
Roger Wittekind (aka Rocky), your brain is grasping at straws in
trying to avoid admitting *you* *are* *wrong*, and as your brain
becomes more and more desperate to avoid the truth we promulgate
(which utterly demolishes your kook conspiracy theory), it makes
larger and larger leaps of illogic.
For instance:
=============================
A) You said the satellite uplink inteference seen in the WCBS video
*you* *provided* was a nuke EMP, so your broken brain told you they
must have buried nukes under the twin towers. Being a simpleton, you
believed they just dug shallow holes, dropped the nukes in, smoothed
over the concrete and walked away for 33 years.
B) Your timing on the WCBS video *you* *provided* between the
satellite uplink interference (what you deemed to be a "nuke EMP") and
the tower shaking being 12 seconds (it was actually 14 seconds, but
kooks can't count) means your supposed nukes had to have been buried
from 37.28 to 96.93 *miles* below the surface (dependent upon soil
composition and thus speed of compressive blast transmission). Never
mind that we don't have the technology to drill that deep even today,
let alone in 1968. Your broken brain had to yet again change your
kooky little conspiracy theory to at least try to orient itself at
some acute angle to reality. So no "dug a shallow hole, dropped the
nukes in, covered it up, walked away for 33 years" anymore, now it was
"dug an impossibly deep hole, dropped the nukes in, covered it up,
walked away for 33 years".
C) You're such a simpleton you didn't realize nukes require periodic
replacement of their neutron-source trigger, which naturally
radioactively decays over time, building up the decay byproduct xenon,
which absorbs neutrons. It's called xenon poisoning. So your broken
brain told you that someone had to service those nukes to keep the
triggers viable... which means your broken brain was thus *forced* to
change from "dug a shallow hole, dropped the nukes in, covered it up,
walked away for 33 years", to "dug an impossibly deep hole, dropped
the nukes in, covered it up, walked away for 33 years", to "built an
entire *facility* impossibly deep under the WTC, complete with service
personnel and" "4 blast doors to keep the explosion from getting back
into the area the nukes were maintained" (your words).
D) Your broken brain then said there were 19 nukes instead of your
original 3, because you knew there were 19 instances of satellite
uplink interference in the WCBS video *you* *provided*, in which you
k'lamed one of the instances of satellite uplink interference was an
EMP. And if you k'lame one of them is an EMP, they *all* must be EMPs,
so your broken brain now tells you there were 19 nukes detonated in
rapid succession... completely ignoring the fact that even one nuke
detonation would plunge the city into darkness due to EMP burning out
electrical substations, and completely ignoring the fact that no
nuclear detonation byproducts were found in the rubble, in the
vicinity of the rubble, or anywhere in NYC.
E) Now that your broken brain was convinced that the nukes were buried
deeply, of course, they had a very wide blast radius, which screwed up
your kooky k'lame that they were used to demolish WTC1 and WTC2, but
somehow missed WTC3 and WTC4... so your broken brain conceived that
the nuclear weapons could somehow dig themselves up from that
miles-deep facility to just below the WTC towers prior to exploding,
in order to make their cone of destruction smaller. Nevermind that
your broken brain said they dug through 37.28 to 96.93 *miles* of
*solid* *bedrock* in *12* *seconds*. LOL
F) So I've led you by the nose in a full circle... if those bombs your
broken brain is telling you existed *did* dig their way up to
underneath the WTC twin towers before detonating (they didn't... first
because there were no nukes, second because it'd be impossible, but
for the sake of argument, we'll continue), that leads right back to
your calculation of the time between your claimed "EMP" (the satellite
uplink interference on the WCBS video *you* *provided*) and the time
the building shook, which is pretty much where we started. So I've
proven by drop-kicking your retarded ass around the perimeter of
sanity full-circle that you're insane. LOL
G) Realizing the utter ridiculousness of your kook blather above, your
broken brain has backpedaled and expanded your delusion even more as a
desperate attempt at attaining some semblance of plausibility...
saying there were 34 mini-nukes, and they were within and underneath
the twin towers. If those 34 nukes you claim existed *did* explode,
where are the nuclear detonation byproducts? The highly radioactive
metal? The radiation burns and radiation sickness of people in the
vicinity? Where are the nuclear detonation signature seismographs? Why
did the electrical grid, all electronics and all vehicles survive not
just one but *34* nuclear EMPs? And what about that timing between the
WCBS video satellite uplink interference (what you claimed was "EMP")
and the shaking of the tower? That's now off by 14 whole seconds, just
as it was when your kooky conspiracy theory began. LOL
H) Now you're saying the OKC bombing was nuclear in nature (MID:
<e3f0e4f638e69c3db43076c8b842db91@dizum.com>), and a new era of
widespread nuclear terrorism has arrived... proof positive that you're
off your meds, Roget Wittekind.
I) To back up yor "nuclear terrorism era" k'lame in H) above, you're
now further k'laming there is such a thing as a magical "detonator"
that causes a nuclear weapon to be a "clean nuke" which expulses no
EMP and leaves no radiological contamination... heaping proof upon
proof that you're off your meds, Roger Wittekind.
J) To explain away the lack of any evidence of your k'lame of a
"nuclear terrorism era", your broken brain has conceived that your
magical nukes are employing "Hushaboom technology" (your words) to
silence them.
K) Your broken brain has now stated (MID:
<YtWdnQvC1PTFNWjInZ2dnUU7-NmdnZ2d@giganews.com>) that "liquid freon in
the air conditioners helped to turn the nuke into a themo [sic]
nuclear bomb" (your words). Complete and utter nonsense from your
thoroughly broken schizophrenic brain, Roger.
IOW, your broken brain is far too stupid to discern fantasy from
reality, so you've caught yourself in an unresolvable logic hole. And
the harder you try to resolve it, the more you run around in little
tard-circles, banging your head with your fist and doing your very
best Rainman impersonation. I can twist your brain into a Gordian Knot
with my knowledge. And I've just barely even started, I haven't even
worked up a sweat yet.
=============================
Kook. LOL
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| From | Topaz <mars1933@hotmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-09-18 17:39 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <ij4pva9ar2n3oobdvi23q6a0ruekggr42b@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #521778 |
On Fri, 18 Sep 2015 06:44:32 +0200 (CEST), Friendly Neighborhood Vote
Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> wrote:
>Time to spin the kooks up again. Melt, kooks, melt. <snicker>
You worthless little turds are all the same. Imagining you proved
something in the past when no one even reads your posts. The only
thing you prove in the present is that you should do the world a favor
and flush yourself down a toilet.
http://the911hoax.com/
In addition to what is demonstrated about possible faked news footage
and airplane wings miraculously slicing through steel girders, the
compelling evidence presented in the series includes:
1. Use of journalists, news company employees, and relatives of news
company employees as sources for stories, defying normal journalistic
rules and conventions which would have had them using random people
off the streets (or people calling the news room by phone) as
witnesses to what they saw or heard.
2. First a journalist and then a photographer each say they are right
under the towers when the second plane hits, but no noise of a plane
coming in low causes them to look up and say something like, "there's
another plane!"
3. Mike Walter of USA Today claims he witnessed an American Airlines
jet fly into the Pentagon. In the three interview pieces shown, he
displays no emotion to what he is saying, as if he were completely
detached from the traumatic jolt of what he witnessed. He seems happy
and he's almost smiling even in the first interview which was right
after it happened.
4. Walter also makes the highly curious statement that the plane that
flew into the Pentagon "looked like a cruise missile with wings." Why
would he say anything about a cruise missile? Why would he say that a
plane looks like a cruise missile with wings? Most of us have seen
airplanes far more often than we have seen a cruise missile, so he
picks a very odd reference. Why does he say it looked like anything
other than what he claims it was, a commercial jet airplane? Why an
out of the blue comparison to a cruise missile?
5. Later, Walter has to explain the wings on the plane collapsed when
hitting the Pentagon and that is why the hole in the Pentagon was not
larger, but instead was smaller as would have been made with a cruise
missile.
6. When the plane hit the second WTC tower, as seen in video clip
after video clip, the steel girders of the building somehow did not
slice off its wings. Magically, the lighter metal airplane wings
manage to cut through much thicker and heavier metal steel girders and
remain intact as the plane enters the building.
7. Sean Murtagh, vice president for finance at CNN, is used as a news
source. He is not a journalist but someone who deals with making sure
the company makes as much profit as possible. He is called upon as an
eyewitness, and says he saw a large plane crash into the first tower
that was hit. No explanation is given as to why he was looking up at
the towers when the first tower was hit.
8. Owen Moogan, a producer at FOX, says he heard a plane flying by low
while still laying in bed in his high-rise apartment building and then
he heard it crash into the tower about 5 blocks from where he lives.
What he says is not that suspicious on surface level, except that you
have to consider it in relation to his position with FOX. Why do they
not have random people with no affiliation or connection to the media
saying what they heard and saw? If he heard a loud plane overhead,
surely there were others in his building who did too, but they were
not interviewed.
9. Mark Obenhaus, an ABC producer, says he saw a large plane flying
low, that it was certainly a commercial jet, and then says, "my eyes
followed it because this is approximately 15 blocks from the World
Trade Center." He followed it in the skyline for the reason that he
thought it was headed toward the WTC and would hit one of the towers.
It is odd that he would make such an assumption instead of assuming it
was a plane having some engine trouble that might crash into the
water. His first assumption is the plane is headed toward the WTC
specifically.
10. Jay Aldersberg, a medical reporter for ABC, contradicts what
others have said. He says he was looking at the smoke, which would
have been from the first tower, so it is the second tower he is
talking about that he says he saw a small plane hit. He says it
"looked like a propeller type." In other words, what he saw was a
small plane, nothing near the size of a commercial jet.
11. Mark Birnback, identified only as a FOX employee (not a journalist
nor producer nor holding an important position with the company, but
assumed to be some type of support staff), says the plane he saw had a
blue circular logo on the front and no passenger windows, that is was
not a commercial jet.
12. Stewart Nurick, an intern at CBS, said he saw the second plane and
that it was small.
13. Don Dahler, war correspondent for ABC, says what he heard was not
an airplane, but sounded like a missile. Having covered war, he would
know the difference. He also says about the second tower, he didn't
see a plane, but "it just exploded." He may not have seen the missile,
but others are saying they saw a small plane (which may have actually
been a missile).
14. Dick Oliver interviews people on the street. The people are
telling him they saw a missile not a plane.
15. Eric Shawn, FOX terrorism reporter, contradicts FOX employee
Birnback, ABC medical reporter Aldersberg, CBS intern Nurick, war
correspondent Dahler, and Oliver's people on the street. Shawn says
the second plane was large.
16. Forty-one seconds after the second tower is hit, FOX news comes up
with bin Laden's name out of the blue, before most Americans had ever
heard of him, ahead of the Bush administration blaming of bin Laden,
with no prompting from a government source to make the suggestion it
was bin Laden, and with no pretense of any evidence of bin Laden being
involved.
17. Winston Mitchell, an ABC reporter, says he saw a plane overhead.
Vince Cellini, a FOX sports anchor called into cover hard news that
day, starts to call it a missile, but then corrects himself.
18. We find out the local news stations were knocked off the air, so
they could not do coverage. If they were able to do coverage, they
would not have called upon people employed by or relatives of people
employed by the national media outlets, but would have used common
random New Yorkers on the street who would have reported what the same
common random New Yorkers were telling Dick Oliver, a missile, not a
plane hit the second tower.
What ultimately appears implicit and explicit in all these sources of
information about 9/11 is that Muslims were not behind the 9/11
terrorist attacks on the WTC, but that the attacks were part of a
scheme to feed the American population a string of outrageous lies in
order to prepare the American population for invasions and wars in the
Muslim nations.
www.tomatobubble.com www.ihr.org http://nationalvanguard.org
http://national-socialist-worldview.blogspot.com
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| From | Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> |
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| Date | 2015-09-19 06:31 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <b9a9f419ed464b5dccac7fc851f57832@dizum.com> |
| In reply to | #521900 |
Time to spin the kooks up again. Melt, kooks, melt. <snicker> Topaz, in <news:ij4pva9ar2n3oobdvi23q6a0ruekggr42b@4ax.com> did thusly jump head first into the wood chipper again: > On Fri, 18 Sep 2015 06:44:32 +0200 (CEST), Friendly Neighborhood Vote > Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> wrote: >> Time to spin the kooks up again. Melt, kooks, melt. <snicker> > Y<SMACKAKOOK!> Rail against reality, little TrooferTard! LOL Of course, you must realize that no sane person believes a word you write... mainly because your tardblather consists of implausible and wholly impossible conspiracy theories, several of which violate the laws of physics, but also because it puts on stark display your inability to understand said physics, as well as your inability to understand flight dynamics, metallurgy, building engineering and indeed, reality itself. Sucks to be you, TrooferTard. <snicker> -- Roger T.E. Wittekind PO Box 471 167 40th Avenue East Moline, IL 61244 309-755-6374 309-755-6394 Roger Wittekind the woman-stalking failed truck driver from East Moline, IL. Roger Wittekind (aka Rocky), your brain is grasping at straws in trying to avoid admitting *you* *are* *wrong*, and as your brain becomes more and more desperate to avoid the truth we promulgate (which utterly demolishes your kook conspiracy theory), it makes larger and larger leaps of illogic. For instance: ============================= A) You said the satellite uplink inteference seen in the WCBS video *you* *provided* was a nuke EMP, so your broken brain told you they must have buried nukes under the twin towers. Being a simpleton, you believed they just dug shallow holes, dropped the nukes in, smoothed over the concrete and walked away for 33 years. B) Your timing on the WCBS video *you* *provided* between the satellite uplink interference (what you deemed to be a "nuke EMP") and the tower shaking being 12 seconds (it was actually 14 seconds, but kooks can't count) means your supposed nukes had to have been buried from 37.28 to 96.93 *miles* below the surface (dependent upon soil composition and thus speed of compressive blast transmission). Never mind that we don't have the technology to drill that deep even today, let alone in 1968. Your broken brain had to yet again change your kooky little conspiracy theory to at least try to orient itself at some acute angle to reality. So no "dug a shallow hole, dropped the nukes in, covered it up, walked away for 33 years" anymore, now it was "dug an impossibly deep hole, dropped the nukes in, covered it up, walked away for 33 years". C) You're such a simpleton you didn't realize nukes require periodic replacement of their neutron-source trigger, which naturally radioactively decays over time, building up the decay byproduct xenon, which absorbs neutrons. It's called xenon poisoning. So your broken brain told you that someone had to service those nukes to keep the triggers viable... which means your broken brain was thus *forced* to change from "dug a shallow hole, dropped the nukes in, covered it up, walked away for 33 years", to "dug an impossibly deep hole, dropped the nukes in, covered it up, walked away for 33 years", to "built an entire *facility* impossibly deep under the WTC, complete with service personnel and" "4 blast doors to keep the explosion from getting back into the area the nukes were maintained" (your words). D) Your broken brain then said there were 19 nukes instead of your original 3, because you knew there were 19 instances of satellite uplink interference in the WCBS video *you* *provided*, in which you k'lamed one of the instances of satellite uplink interference was an EMP. And if you k'lame one of them is an EMP, they *all* must be EMPs, so your broken brain now tells you there were 19 nukes detonated in rapid succession... completely ignoring the fact that even one nuke detonation would plunge the city into darkness due to EMP burning out electrical substations, and completely ignoring the fact that no nuclear detonation byproducts were found in the rubble, in the vicinity of the rubble, or anywhere in NYC. E) Now that your broken brain was convinced that the nukes were buried deeply, of course, they had a very wide blast radius, which screwed up your kooky k'lame that they were used to demolish WTC1 and WTC2, but somehow missed WTC3 and WTC4... so your broken brain conceived that the nuclear weapons could somehow dig themselves up from that miles-deep facility to just below the WTC towers prior to exploding, in order to make their cone of destruction smaller. Nevermind that your broken brain said they dug through 37.28 to 96.93 *miles* of *solid* *bedrock* in *12* *seconds*. LOL F) So I've led you by the nose in a full circle... if those bombs your broken brain is telling you existed *did* dig their way up to underneath the WTC twin towers before detonating (they didn't... first because there were no nukes, second because it'd be impossible, but for the sake of argument, we'll continue), that leads right back to your calculation of the time between your claimed "EMP" (the satellite uplink interference on the WCBS video *you* *provided*) and the time the building shook, which is pretty much where we started. So I've proven by drop-kicking your retarded ass around the perimeter of sanity full-circle that you're insane. LOL G) Realizing the utter ridiculousness of your kook blather above, your broken brain has backpedaled and expanded your delusion even more as a desperate attempt at attaining some semblance of plausibility... saying there were 34 mini-nukes, and they were within and underneath the twin towers. If those 34 nukes you claim existed *did* explode, where are the nuclear detonation byproducts? The highly radioactive metal? The radiation burns and radiation sickness of people in the vicinity? Where are the nuclear detonation signature seismographs? Why did the electrical grid, all electronics and all vehicles survive not just one but *34* nuclear EMPs? And what about that timing between the WCBS video satellite uplink interference (what you claimed was "EMP") and the shaking of the tower? That's now off by 14 whole seconds, just as it was when your kooky conspiracy theory began. LOL H) Now you're saying the OKC bombing was nuclear in nature (MID: <e3f0e4f638e69c3db43076c8b842db91@dizum.com>), and a new era of widespread nuclear terrorism has arrived... proof positive that you're off your meds, Roget Wittekind. I) To back up yor "nuclear terrorism era" k'lame in H) above, you're now further k'laming there is such a thing as a magical "detonator" that causes a nuclear weapon to be a "clean nuke" which expulses no EMP and leaves no radiological contamination... heaping proof upon proof that you're off your meds, Roger Wittekind. J) To explain away the lack of any evidence of your k'lame of a "nuclear terrorism era", your broken brain has conceived that your magical nukes are employing "Hushaboom technology" (your words) to silence them. K) Your broken brain has now stated (MID: <YtWdnQvC1PTFNWjInZ2dnUU7-NmdnZ2d@giganews.com>) that "liquid freon in the air conditioners helped to turn the nuke into a themo [sic] nuclear bomb" (your words). Complete and utter nonsense from your thoroughly broken schizophrenic brain, Roger. IOW, your broken brain is far too stupid to discern fantasy from reality, so you've caught yourself in an unresolvable logic hole. And the harder you try to resolve it, the more you run around in little tard-circles, banging your head with your fist and doing your very best Rainman impersonation. I can twist your brain into a Gordian Knot with my knowledge. And I've just barely even started, I haven't even worked up a sweat yet. ============================= Kook. LOL
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| From | Topaz <mars1933@hotmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-09-19 04:15 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <ir9qvadkatrbr4pob2f3q33cau7q3b9pls@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #521941 |
On Sat, 19 Sep 2015 06:31:15 +0200 (CEST), Friendly Neighborhood Vote
Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> wrote:
>
>Rail against reality, little TrooferTard! LOL
>
You worthless little turds are all the same. Imagining you proved
something in the past when no one even reads your posts. The only
thing you prove in the present is that you should do the world a favor
and flush yourself down a toilet.
http://911planeshoax.com/
In the impact videos, notably the Hezarkhani, Luc Courchesne, Spiegel
TV and Evan Fairbanks videos we see what we are told is a plane
cartoonishly pass through the steel face of the tower like a ghost. As
the alleged plane makes contact with the tower there is no bending,
buckling or breaking of the plane. No wings breaking or other parts of
the plane breaking apart. This is impossible. It is cartoon physics.
It melts into the side of the tower like a knife through butter.
http://imageshack.com/a/img850/7038/rma9.gif A passenger jet is a
hollow aluminum and plastic tube which is highly vulnerable to impacts
with flying birds. http://imageshack.com/a/img89/3552/u9a4.jpg The
"plane" we are told is Flight 175 is depicted as being simultaneously
both half in the South Tower and still completely intact, a pair of
buildings made with 200,000 tons of steel each.
http://imageshack.com/a/img191/2404/hmxt.jpg When the tip of the
plane's fuselage hits the steel exterior of the South Tower the
fuselage should be breaking up.
http://imageshack.com/a/img713/3572/e7m.gif That would cause the wings
to break off.
From the holes left in both towers after "impact" we are supposed to
believe the wings sliced clean through the 14 inch steel beams but
this is simply impossible. The fragile mostly hollow aluminum wings
would not slice through all the 14 inch steel box columns of the WTC
towers and leave a Wylie Coyote style hole.
http://imageshack.com/a/img607/1741/a68j.jpg An airplane wing can be
sliced in half by a wooden telephone pole:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2zt1oTYhcgo Aluminum plane wings will
not cut through 14 inch steel regardless of speed and weight. Not only
is it impossible for the wings to have cut through the steel columns
but it is absolutely impossible for the fragile wing tips to have also
cut through the steel columns.
The wings would break off immediately upon contact and the plane would
explode. It would not enter the tower and then explode.
http://imageshack.com/a/img823/7325/7qav.jpg The plane would simply be
obliterated to pieces by the 14 inch steel box columns and the steel
and concrete floor trusses before it got anywhere near the inside of
the tower.
The plane did not slow down as it made contact with the tower. How can
the plane fly at the same speed through the steel/concrete face of the
tower as it did through the air? This is impossible. The "plane" also
violates Newton's First Law.
There are NO verified airplane parts. Apart from one or two props
placed there like a bit of tire and a bit of engine…parts that didn't
even match a Boeing 767 and like the laughable bit of engine on the
Pentagon lawn there were no real plane parts or debris to be seen and
no black boxes were ever found at ground zero.
http://imageshack.com/a/img191/9174/ozo2.jpg In reality, if a plane
had hit the tower it would have crushed up like a car hitting a wall
and its wings would have broken off and the majority of the plane
would have fallen to the street below. The street below would have
been littered with plane debris and the charred remains of the
passengers yet it wasn't because there was no plane.
FAA Regulation 121 requires a comprehensive investigation of all
crashes of scheduled commercial flights yet there are no official
crash reports on the 4 incidents because there were no planes.
In all of the footage the alleged planes hitting the twin towers
clearly do not look real. The planes have a computer generated
appearance. In the different footage we see the planes changing shape
and color, missing wings, are featureless and blurred. Pilot John Lear
made the observation that the plane has no strobe lights. The plane
also casts no shadow. http://killtown.911review.org/2nd-hit.html
According to BTS statistics, both 11 and 77 officially never took-off
on 9/11. The meticulous data kept on every airliner taking-off at
every airport in the country also showed no elapsed run-way time,
wheels-off time and taxi-out time, not to mention several other
categories left blank on 9/11 concerning the two flights.
In conclusion we can be 100% certain the planes were not real. Apart
from defying the laws of physics with impossible crash dynamics the
planes do not even look real.
www.tomatobubble.com www.ihr.org http://nationalvanguard.org
http://national-socialist-worldview.blogspot.com
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| From | Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> |
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| Date | 2015-09-19 22:36 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <97d179e87e7c0eaa1548729fd234f829@dizum.com> |
| In reply to | #521976 |
Time to spin the kooks up again. Melt, kooks, melt. <snicker> Topaz, in <news:ir9qvadkatrbr4pob2f3q33cau7q3b9pls@4ax.com> did thusly jump head first into the wood chipper again: > On Sat, 19 Sep 2015 06:31:15 +0200 (CEST), Friendly Neighborhood Vote > Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> wrote: >> Rail against reality, little TrooferTard! LOL And the little TrooferTard does exactly that by clinging tight to its delusions and spamming the shit out of the same refuted "evidence" that it's based its entire kooky conspiracy theory on. LOL What's the matter, Little TrooferTard? Are you not smart enough to figure out reality? <snicker> > You worthl<SMACKAKOOK!> Poor butthurt kook... reality seems to be kicking your stupid ass. LOL > In the impact videos, notably the Hezarkhani, Luc Courchesne, Spiegel > TV and Evan Fairbanks videos we see what we are told is a plane > cartoonishly pass through the steel face of the tower li<SMACKAKOOK!> Bullshit. The outer facade of the WTC towers was glass and aluminum. Thin and weak aluminum. Message-ID: <1c0d42b6cb0b1ed6b4df6ee62c32542d@dizum.com> ============================== The facade was 0.09" thick aluminum, you witless brainless dumbshit. LOL <http://www.911myths.com/WTCTHERM.pdf> "By far the largest source of aluminum at the WTC was the exterior cladding on WTC 1 & 2. In quantitative terms it may be estimated that 2,000,000 kg of anodized 0.09" aluminum sheet was used, in the form of 43,600 panels, to cover the facade of each Twin Tower." ============================== Moron. LOL No concrete in the WTC tower walls, either, as a weight-saving measure so they could build higher. The Empire State Building, being a grid-constructed building, had thick concrete walls *and* massive solid girders... and that 10-ton plane sliced right through. The aluminum used in modern aircraft wings isn't the soft shit found in soda cans, you nong. It's Aluminum 2219-T81, precipitation hardened, with a tensile strength equal to that of A36 structural steel, and a superior yield strength. <http://www.aircraftmaterials.com/data/aluminium/2219.html> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A36_steel> =========================================================== Aluminum 2219-T81 tensile strength: 58 ksi Aluminum 2219-T81 yield strength: 43 ksi Structural steel tensile strength: 58 ksi Structural steel yield strength: 36 ksi =========================================================== Those "14 inch steel box columns" were actually 4 plates of low-grade A36 steel, each 5/16" thick, welded into a hollow box girder. So those 197.5 ton planes were really only punching through 5/8" of metal... and the metal in the planes was *stronger* than the WTC structural steel... and the planes were above the critical velocity that would allow even weaker materials to sever the box girders. The WTC towers were designed to minimize the amount of concrete used. The walls didn't even have cement in them, only the floor spars and that was only 4" thick. That was a weight-saving measure so they could build higher. Moron. Are you seriously saying WWII Kamikaze planes of ~10 tons (made of materials much weaker than the 767 planes that hit the WTC towers) were able to punch through much harder 1 to 2 inch armor steel plating on battleships, yet the 197.5 ton planes couldn't punch through the 5/8" of softer structural steel in the WTC towers, despite the fact that the 767 metal was stronger than the WTC tower, and despite the fact that the 767s were heavier and going faster than the WWII Kamikaze planes, kook? You moron. LOL -- Roger T.E. Wittekind PO Box 471 167 40th Avenue East Moline, IL 61244 309-755-6374 309-755-6394 Roger Wittekind the woman-stalking failed truck driver from East Moline, IL. Roger Wittekind (aka Rocky), your brain is grasping at straws in trying to avoid admitting *you* *are* *wrong*, and as your brain becomes more and more desperate to avoid the truth we promulgate (which utterly demolishes your kook conspiracy theory), it makes larger and larger leaps of illogic. For instance: ============================= A) You said the satellite uplink inteference seen in the WCBS video *you* *provided* was a nuke EMP, so your broken brain told you they must have buried nukes under the twin towers. Being a simpleton, you believed they just dug shallow holes, dropped the nukes in, smoothed over the concrete and walked away for 33 years. B) Your timing on the WCBS video *you* *provided* between the satellite uplink interference (what you deemed to be a "nuke EMP") and the tower shaking being 12 seconds (it was actually 14 seconds, but kooks can't count) means your supposed nukes had to have been buried from 37.28 to 96.93 *miles* below the surface (dependent upon soil composition and thus speed of compressive blast transmission). Never mind that we don't have the technology to drill that deep even today, let alone in 1968. Your broken brain had to yet again change your kooky little conspiracy theory to at least try to orient itself at some acute angle to reality. So no "dug a shallow hole, dropped the nukes in, covered it up, walked away for 33 years" anymore, now it was "dug an impossibly deep hole, dropped the nukes in, covered it up, walked away for 33 years". C) You're such a simpleton you didn't realize nukes require periodic replacement of their neutron-source trigger, which naturally radioactively decays over time, building up the decay byproduct xenon, which absorbs neutrons. It's called xenon poisoning. So your broken brain told you that someone had to service those nukes to keep the triggers viable... which means your broken brain was thus *forced* to change from "dug a shallow hole, dropped the nukes in, covered it up, walked away for 33 years", to "dug an impossibly deep hole, dropped the nukes in, covered it up, walked away for 33 years", to "built an entire *facility* impossibly deep under the WTC, complete with service personnel and" "4 blast doors to keep the explosion from getting back into the area the nukes were maintained" (your words). D) Your broken brain then said there were 19 nukes instead of your original 3, because you knew there were 19 instances of satellite uplink interference in the WCBS video *you* *provided*, in which you k'lamed one of the instances of satellite uplink interference was an EMP. And if you k'lame one of them is an EMP, they *all* must be EMPs, so your broken brain now tells you there were 19 nukes detonated in rapid succession... completely ignoring the fact that even one nuke detonation would plunge the city into darkness due to EMP burning out electrical substations, and completely ignoring the fact that no nuclear detonation byproducts were found in the rubble, in the vicinity of the rubble, or anywhere in NYC. E) Now that your broken brain was convinced that the nukes were buried deeply, of course, they had a very wide blast radius, which screwed up your kooky k'lame that they were used to demolish WTC1 and WTC2, but somehow missed WTC3 and WTC4... so your broken brain conceived that the nuclear weapons could somehow dig themselves up from that miles-deep facility to just below the WTC towers prior to exploding, in order to make their cone of destruction smaller. Nevermind that your broken brain said they dug through 37.28 to 96.93 *miles* of *solid* *bedrock* in *12* *seconds*. LOL F) So I've led you by the nose in a full circle... if those bombs your broken brain is telling you existed *did* dig their way up to underneath the WTC twin towers before detonating (they didn't... first because there were no nukes, second because it'd be impossible, but for the sake of argument, we'll continue), that leads right back to your calculation of the time between your claimed "EMP" (the satellite uplink interference on the WCBS video *you* *provided*) and the time the building shook, which is pretty much where we started. So I've proven by drop-kicking your retarded ass around the perimeter of sanity full-circle that you're insane. LOL G) Realizing the utter ridiculousness of your kook blather above, your broken brain has backpedaled and expanded your delusion even more as a desperate attempt at attaining some semblance of plausibility... saying there were 34 mini-nukes, and they were within and underneath the twin towers. If those 34 nukes you claim existed *did* explode, where are the nuclear detonation byproducts? The highly radioactive metal? The radiation burns and radiation sickness of people in the vicinity? Where are the nuclear detonation signature seismographs? Why did the electrical grid, all electronics and all vehicles survive not just one but *34* nuclear EMPs? And what about that timing between the WCBS video satellite uplink interference (what you claimed was "EMP") and the shaking of the tower? That's now off by 14 whole seconds, just as it was when your kooky conspiracy theory began. LOL H) Now you're saying the OKC bombing was nuclear in nature (MID: <e3f0e4f638e69c3db43076c8b842db91@dizum.com>), and a new era of widespread nuclear terrorism has arrived... proof positive that you're off your meds, Roget Wittekind. I) To back up yor "nuclear terrorism era" k'lame in H) above, you're now further k'laming there is such a thing as a magical "detonator" that causes a nuclear weapon to be a "clean nuke" which expulses no EMP and leaves no radiological contamination... heaping proof upon proof that you're off your meds, Roger Wittekind. J) To explain away the lack of any evidence of your k'lame of a "nuclear terrorism era", your broken brain has conceived that your magical nukes are employing "Hushaboom technology" (your words) to silence them. K) Your broken brain has now stated (MID: <YtWdnQvC1PTFNWjInZ2dnUU7-NmdnZ2d@giganews.com>) that "liquid freon in the air conditioners helped to turn the nuke into a themo [sic] nuclear bomb" (your words). Complete and utter nonsense from your thoroughly broken schizophrenic brain, Roger. IOW, your broken brain is far too stupid to discern fantasy from reality, so you've caught yourself in an unresolvable logic hole. And the harder you try to resolve it, the more you run around in little tard-circles, banging your head with your fist and doing your very best Rainman impersonation. I can twist your brain into a Gordian Knot with my knowledge. And I've just barely even started, I haven't even worked up a sweat yet. ============================= Kook. LOL
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| From | Topaz <mars1933@hotmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-09-20 04:14 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <o5usvapuo5mrboqhf5k1kjpcci80im5pk9@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #522094 |
On Sat, 19 Sep 2015 22:36:48 +0200 (CEST), Friendly Neighborhood Vote
Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> wrote:
>Time to spin the kooks up again. Melt, kooks, melt. <snicker>
>
You worthless little turds are all the same. Imagining you proved
something in the past when no one even reads your posts. The only
thing you prove in the present is that you should do the world a favor
and flush yourself down a toilet.
www.tomatobubble.com www.ihr.org http://nationalvanguard.org
http://national-socialist-worldview.blogspot.com
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| From | Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2015-09-20 20:04 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <b7e1a42a7621052526667b436bfe2ef7@dizum.com> |
| In reply to | #522182 |
Time to spin the kooks up again. Melt, kooks, melt. <snicker> Topaz, in <news:o5usvapuo5mrboqhf5k1kjpcci80im5pk9@4ax.com> did thusly jump head first into the wood chipper again: > On Sat, 19 Sep 2015 22:36:48 +0200 (CEST), Friendly Neighborhood Vote > Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> wrote: >> Time to spin the kooks up again. Melt, kooks, melt. <snicker> > You wort<SMACKAKOOK!> Butthurt much, K0oK? LOL Everyone reads my posts, because I represent sanity and reality, whereas you represent foaming-at-the-mouth conspiracy theory whackadoodlism. Kook. LOL Moron. LOL Kicktoy. LOL Laughingstock. LOL -- Roger T.E. Wittekind PO Box 471 167 40th Avenue East Moline, IL 61244 309-755-6374 309-755-6394 Roger Wittekind the woman-stalking failed truck driver from East Moline, IL. Roger Wittekind (aka Rocky), your brain is grasping at straws in trying to avoid admitting *you* *are* *wrong*, and as your brain becomes more and more desperate to avoid the truth we promulgate (which utterly demolishes your kook conspiracy theory), it makes larger and larger leaps of illogic. For instance: ============================= A) You said the satellite uplink inteference seen in the WCBS video *you* *provided* was a nuke EMP, so your broken brain told you they must have buried nukes under the twin towers. Being a simpleton, you believed they just dug shallow holes, dropped the nukes in, smoothed over the concrete and walked away for 33 years. B) Your timing on the WCBS video *you* *provided* between the satellite uplink interference (what you deemed to be a "nuke EMP") and the tower shaking being 12 seconds (it was actually 14 seconds, but kooks can't count) means your supposed nukes had to have been buried from 37.28 to 96.93 *miles* below the surface (dependent upon soil composition and thus speed of compressive blast transmission). Never mind that we don't have the technology to drill that deep even today, let alone in 1968. Your broken brain had to yet again change your kooky little conspiracy theory to at least try to orient itself at some acute angle to reality. So no "dug a shallow hole, dropped the nukes in, covered it up, walked away for 33 years" anymore, now it was "dug an impossibly deep hole, dropped the nukes in, covered it up, walked away for 33 years". C) You're such a simpleton you didn't realize nukes require periodic replacement of their neutron-source trigger, which naturally radioactively decays over time, building up the decay byproduct xenon, which absorbs neutrons. It's called xenon poisoning. So your broken brain told you that someone had to service those nukes to keep the triggers viable... which means your broken brain was thus *forced* to change from "dug a shallow hole, dropped the nukes in, covered it up, walked away for 33 years", to "dug an impossibly deep hole, dropped the nukes in, covered it up, walked away for 33 years", to "built an entire *facility* impossibly deep under the WTC, complete with service personnel and" "4 blast doors to keep the explosion from getting back into the area the nukes were maintained" (your words). D) Your broken brain then said there were 19 nukes instead of your original 3, because you knew there were 19 instances of satellite uplink interference in the WCBS video *you* *provided*, in which you k'lamed one of the instances of satellite uplink interference was an EMP. And if you k'lame one of them is an EMP, they *all* must be EMPs, so your broken brain now tells you there were 19 nukes detonated in rapid succession... completely ignoring the fact that even one nuke detonation would plunge the city into darkness due to EMP burning out electrical substations, and completely ignoring the fact that no nuclear detonation byproducts were found in the rubble, in the vicinity of the rubble, or anywhere in NYC. E) Now that your broken brain was convinced that the nukes were buried deeply, of course, they had a very wide blast radius, which screwed up your kooky k'lame that they were used to demolish WTC1 and WTC2, but somehow missed WTC3 and WTC4... so your broken brain conceived that the nuclear weapons could somehow dig themselves up from that miles-deep facility to just below the WTC towers prior to exploding, in order to make their cone of destruction smaller. Nevermind that your broken brain said they dug through 37.28 to 96.93 *miles* of *solid* *bedrock* in *12* *seconds*. LOL F) So I've led you by the nose in a full circle... if those bombs your broken brain is telling you existed *did* dig their way up to underneath the WTC twin towers before detonating (they didn't... first because there were no nukes, second because it'd be impossible, but for the sake of argument, we'll continue), that leads right back to your calculation of the time between your claimed "EMP" (the satellite uplink interference on the WCBS video *you* *provided*) and the time the building shook, which is pretty much where we started. So I've proven by drop-kicking your retarded ass around the perimeter of sanity full-circle that you're insane. LOL G) Realizing the utter ridiculousness of your kook blather above, your broken brain has backpedaled and expanded your delusion even more as a desperate attempt at attaining some semblance of plausibility... saying there were 34 mini-nukes, and they were within and underneath the twin towers. If those 34 nukes you claim existed *did* explode, where are the nuclear detonation byproducts? The highly radioactive metal? The radiation burns and radiation sickness of people in the vicinity? Where are the nuclear detonation signature seismographs? Why did the electrical grid, all electronics and all vehicles survive not just one but *34* nuclear EMPs? And what about that timing between the WCBS video satellite uplink interference (what you claimed was "EMP") and the shaking of the tower? That's now off by 14 whole seconds, just as it was when your kooky conspiracy theory began. LOL H) Now you're saying the OKC bombing was nuclear in nature (MID: <e3f0e4f638e69c3db43076c8b842db91@dizum.com>), and a new era of widespread nuclear terrorism has arrived... proof positive that you're off your meds, Roget Wittekind. I) To back up yor "nuclear terrorism era" k'lame in H) above, you're now further k'laming there is such a thing as a magical "detonator" that causes a nuclear weapon to be a "clean nuke" which expulses no EMP and leaves no radiological contamination... heaping proof upon proof that you're off your meds, Roger Wittekind. J) To explain away the lack of any evidence of your k'lame of a "nuclear terrorism era", your broken brain has conceived that your magical nukes are employing "Hushaboom technology" (your words) to silence them. K) Your broken brain has now stated (MID: <YtWdnQvC1PTFNWjInZ2dnUU7-NmdnZ2d@giganews.com>) that "liquid freon in the air conditioners helped to turn the nuke into a themo [sic] nuclear bomb" (your words). Complete and utter nonsense from your thoroughly broken schizophrenic brain, Roger. IOW, your broken brain is far too stupid to discern fantasy from reality, so you've caught yourself in an unresolvable logic hole. And the harder you try to resolve it, the more you run around in little tard-circles, banging your head with your fist and doing your very best Rainman impersonation. I can twist your brain into a Gordian Knot with my knowledge. And I've just barely even started, I haven't even worked up a sweat yet. ============================= Kook. LOL
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| From | Topaz <mars1933@hotmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-09-21 17:41 -0500 |
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| In reply to | #522242 |
On Sun, 20 Sep 2015 20:04:11 +0200 (CEST), Friendly Neighborhood Vote
Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> wrote:
>Time to spin the kooks up again. Melt, kooks, melt. <snicker>
>
You worthless little turds are all the same. Imagining you proved
something in the past when no one even reads your posts. The only
thing you prove in the present is that you should do the world a favor
and flush yourself down a toilet.
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http://national-socialist-worldview.blogspot.com
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| From | Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> |
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| Date | 2015-09-19 06:41 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <1d42ddd5704e94ae474ba046db8ec2bb@dizum.com> |
| In reply to | #521778 |
Time to spin the kooks up again. Melt, kooks, melt. <snicker>
Robert M. Wolfe the Pittsburgh Pied Piper Of Penis (aka DildoRider) of
5907 Stanton Ave., Pittsburgh, PA (aka Teh Mop Jockey), socked up as
root@127.0.0.1, in <news:op.x46hi4f9tm21m2@benson.localhost> did
thusly jump head first into the wood chipper again:
> On Fri, 18 Sep 2015 00:44:32 -0400, Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler
> Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> wrote:
>> Time to spin the kooks up again. Melt, kooks, melt. <snicker>
>>
>> Robert M. Wolfe the Pittsburgh Pied Piper Of Penis (aka DildoRider) of
>> 5907 Stanton Ave., Pittsburgh, PA (aka Teh Mop Jockey), socked up as
>> root@127.0.0.1, in <news:op.x43crnfwtm21m2@benson.localhost> did
>> thusly jump head first into the wood chipper again:
>>> On Thu, 17 Sep 2015 00:36:30 -0400, Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler
>>> Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> wrote:
>>>> Time to spin the kooks up again. Melt, kooks, melt. <snicker>
>>>>
>>>> Topaz, in <news:1bmjva9oh48ftbi97hv598lnduqbqrhj2p@4ax.com> did thusly
>>>> jump head first into the wood chipper again:
>>>>> On Tue, 15 Sep 2015 17:34:44 -0400, Sarah Ehrett <ninety7gt@cox.net>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> It didn't melt steel it WEAKENED IT.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It isn't rocket science to know that if you heat steel it WEAKENS it.
>>>>>> WEAKENED steel will fail. When it can no longer hold a load failure
>>>>>> occurs.
>>>>> For one thing that wouldn't quickly collapse the whole building. And a
>>>>> lot of steel did melt. This youtube video is absolute proof:
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h7S9bnd_pnY
>>>> I see no molten steel in that entire video. I see a large ball of what
>>>> was once molten metal, with no analysis of where it came from. Of
>>>> course, structural steel wasn't the only steel in the twin towers.
>>>> There was plenty of very low-grade steel in office furniture.
>>>>
>>>> Steel loses a significant amount of its strength just before it starts
>>>> to glow a dull red (approx.900 deg.F). We know the temperature reached
>>>> at least 950 F because the aircraft frames melted. 2219-T81 aircraft
>>>> grade aluminum melts at 950 F.
>>>>
>>>> Heated to a bright orange (nowhere near the melting point), steel
>>>> enters a "plastic" state. Exceptions are specialized steel alloys
>>>> which have outstanding heat tolerance, but are much too costly to
>>>> frame a building with.
>>>>
>>>> I find it strange that we have reports of "molten steel" (likely not
>>>> structural steel, but cheaper, lower grade steel in office furniture
>>>> and interior finish materials... imagine how many office chairs alone
>>>> there were, likely at least 250 per floor... and almost all of them
>>>> made of very low-grade steel... at just 5 pounds per chair or table,
>>>> that's half a ton of very low-grade steel per floor), yet no actual
>>>> pictures of same... not even any pictures of that "molten steel" being
>>>> pulled out of the ground. Plenty of pictures of incandescently hot
>>>> steel being pulled out of the ground... no molten steel.
>>>>
>>>> Whoopsie:
>>>> <http://www.skyscrapersafety.org/html/article_20040619.html>
>>>> 9/11 cops saw collapse coming
>>>> =========================================================
>>>> The World Trade Center towers showed telltale signs they were about to
>>>> collapse several minutes before each crumbled to the ground,
>>>> scientists probing the Sept. 11, 2001, disaster said yesterday.
>>>>
>>>> In the case of the north tower, police chopper pilots reported seeing
>>>> the warning signs - an inward bowing of the building facade - at least
>>>> eight minutes before it collapsed at 10:29 a.m.
>>>> =========================================================
>>>>
>>>> <http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=newsarchive&sid=aCuh.ATdfOXc&refer=top_world_news>
>>>> =========================================================
>>>> Federal engineering investigators studying the destruction of the
>>>> World Trade Center's twin towers on Sept. 11 said New York Police
>>>> Department aviation units reported an inward bowing of the buildings'
>>>> columns in the minutes before they collapsed, a signal they were about
>>>> to fall.
>>>>
>>>> ``No evidence has been found to suggest the information was
>>>> communicated to all emergency responders at the scene,'' said an
>>>> executive summary of a progress report by the National Institute of
>>>> Standards and Technology, which is conducting the study.
>>>>
>>>> Investigators also found evidence that the south tower, which fell 56
>>>> minutes after it was struck by terrorists in a hijacked commercial
>>>> jet, had less fire proofing than the north tower, which held up for
>>>> about double the time after it was hit.
>>>> =========================================================
>>>>
>>>> <http://www.debunking911.com/moltensteel.htm>
>>>> <http://www.debunking911.com/debris.jpg>
>>>> See the sagging floor beams in the picture above? Just as I said, the
>>>> floor spars sagged, ripped apart the viscoelastic dampers, which
>>>> removed the horizontal support for the outer truss frame. The truss
>>>> frame at the top-most mechanical room floor (where all the truss frame
>>>> sections were inexplicably joined at one floor... they were staggered
>>>> on every other floor to increase strength) bore the load of the
>>>> increased weight on the truss frame until the two 5/8" bolts joining
>>>> each truss frame section together broke. This left the entire truss
>>>> frame above that mechanical room floor disconnected, hanging off the
>>>> top-hat truss, which transferred all that weight to the central column
>>>> and magnified the buckling force upon the central column. The fire
>>>> heat-weakened the central column, which buckled, transferring some of
>>>> the weight back onto the truss frame and ripping even more of the
>>>> viscoelastic dampers. The truss frame collapsed at that mechanical
>>>> room floor (which can be seen in some of the videos immediately prior
>>>> to the whole-building collapse), and it collapsed slightly sideways
>>>> due to the hole left by the aircraft impact. The collapse of the truss
>>>> frame at the mechanical room floor triggered the cascading
>>>> whole-building collapse, and the angle at which the upper truss frame
>>>> collapsed dragged the building slightly off-center as it fell, leaving
>>>> behind the surviving staircase at the base of the building because it
>>>> was outside the 'fall shadow' of the building.
>>>>
>>>> That pretty much negates you kook's "controlled demolition" blather.
>>>>
>>>> You moron.
>>>>
>>>> <snicker>
>>> i've molten steel with as little as 220 volts plus some current.
>> You can melt steel with a Bic lighter. Get a steel scrubbing sponge
>> and a lighter and try it out. You'll also see tiny metal balls form,
>> just as was found at the WTC site... strange that some of the
>> insulation in the towers was rock wool, eh?
>>
>> <http://www.slg.jp/e/slag/product/rockwool.html>
>>
>> <snicker>
>>> i wonder
>>> how much stored kinetic energy in all those floors of carpets, wood,
>>> desks, paper, plastic, charred humans, and a little bit of 2 exploded
>>> planes had in it? has anybody ever wagered a guess?
>> 250 to 300 GigaJoules per tower, or a total of 138 MWh to 166 MWh. Or
>> approximately enough energy to fuel one person at 2000 kilocalories
>> per day for 196 years. IOW, a great fucking lot of energy. And that
>> doesn't even take into account the amount of heat gained from burning
>> material, that's just the potential energy of the building converting
>> to heat.
>>
>> http://www.debunking911.com/moltensteel.htm
>>
>> At 32,000 sq feet of tenant space per floor and at 4lbs per sq ft of
>> combustible material (at 5 lbs per sq ft NIST found that the fires
>> moved too slowly) for 110 floors (-6 floors for mechanical + 6 for
>> underground) is equal to 14 Million POUNDS of combustible material. Or
>> 7,000 TONS. Clearly a RESPECTABLE amount of burnable material per
>> TOWER. Thus the rubble pile had ~ 28 MILLION POUNDS of combustible
>> material not including what was in the Marriot hotel and its parking
>> garage.
>>
>> **BEGIN PROGRAM**
>>
>> # Demonstrates the kinetic energy of the WTC collapses, to debunk 9/11
>> conspiracies # http://www.geocities.com/debunking911/moltensteel.htm
>> #
>> #!/usr/bin/perl
>> #
>> # Variables for calculations
>> $m = 4285500; # mass of one floor (kg)
>> $mt = 0; # mass of falling section
>> $v1 = 0; # beginning velocity for the current step
>> $v2 = 0; # velocity at impact
>> $v3 = 0; # ending velocity for prior step $p = 0; # current momentum
>> $ke1 = 0; # kinetic energy at impact
>> $ke2 = 0; # kinetic energy after impact
>> $de = 0; # total energy dissipated so far $a = 9.80665; # acceleration
>> of gravity (constant) $t = 0; # cumulative time taken
>> $t1 = 0; # time taken for this step
>> $d = 3.8; # distance between floors (418m/110 stories) $mt = $fc*$m; #
>> initialize mass of falling section # # Calculations for WTC Tower One
>> $fc = 13; # floor count of falling section (13 floors for WTC One)
>> $rfc = 110 - $fc; # initialize remaining floor count of uncollapsed
>> floors print("Data for WTC Tower One\n"); print("\n"); while($rfc > 0)
>> { print("Data for story ", $rfc, " -\n");
>> $v1 = $v3; # starting velocity is ending for last step
>> $v2 = (($v1*2)+((2*$a)*$d))**0.5; # impact velocity for this step by
>> formula print("Impact velocity: ", $v2, "\n"); $p = $mt*$v2; #
>> momentum at impact print("Impulse delivered: ", $p, "\n");
>> $ke1 = ($mt*($v2**2))/2; # kinetic energy at impact print("Impact
>> kinetic energy: ", $ke1, "\n"); $fc++; # increment falling floor count
>> $mt = $fc*$m; # update mass of falling section
>> $v3 = $p/$mt; # new velocity
>> print("Velocity after impact: ", $v3, "\n");
>> $ke2 = ($mt*($v3**2))/2; # kinetic energy after impact
>> print("Remaining kinetic energy: ", $ke2, "\n"); $de += $ke1 - $ke2; #
>> add dissipated kinetic energy to total print("Kinetic energy
>> dissipated: ", $ke1 - $ke2, "\n");
>> $t1 = $d/(($v2 + $v1)/2); # time for this step by formula print("Time
>> spent collapsing: ", $t1, "\n"); $t += $t1; # add step time to running
>> total $rfc--; # decrement remaining floor count print("\n"); }
>> print("Overall WTC Tower One data -\n"); print("Total collapse time:
>> ", $t, "\n"); print("Total energy dissipated during the collapse: ",
>> $de, "\n"); print("Remaining kinetic energy at the end of the
>> collapse: ", $ke2, "\n"); print("\n"); # # Calculations for WTC Tower
>> Two $fc = 39; # floor count of falling section (39 floors for WTC Two)
>> $rfc = 110 - $fc; # initialize remaining floor count of uncollapsed
>> floors print("Data for WTC Tower Two\n"); print("\n"); while($rfc > 0)
>> { print("Data for story ", $rfc, " -\n");
>> $v1 = $v3; # starting velocity is ending for last step
>> $v2 = (($v1*2)+((2*$a)*$d))**0.5; # impact velocity for this step by
>> formula print("Impact velocity: ", $v2, "\n"); $p = $mt*$v2; #
>> momentum at impact print("Impulse delivered: ", $p, "\n");
>> $ke1 = ($mt*($v2**2))/2; # kinetic energy at impact print("Impact
>> kinetic energy: ", $ke1, "\n"); $fc++; # increment falling floor count
>> $mt = $fc*$m; # update mass of falling section
>> $v3 = $p/$mt; # new velocity
>> print("Velocity after impact: ", $v3, "\n");
>> $ke2 = ($mt*($v3**2))/2; # kinetic energy after impact
>> print("Remaining kinetic energy: ", $ke2, "\n"); $de += $ke1 - $ke2; #
>> add dissipated kinetic energy to total print("Kinetic energy
>> dissipated: ", $ke1 - $ke2, "\n");
>> $t1 = $d/(($v2 + $v1)/2); # time for this step by formula print("Time
>> spent collapsing: ", $t1, "\n"); $t += $t1; # add step time to running
>> total $rfc--; # decrement remaining floor count print("\n"); }
>> print("Overall WTC Tower Two data -\n"); print("Total collapse time:
>> ", $t, "\n"); print("Total energy dissipated during the collapse: ",
>> $de, "\n"); print("Remaining kinetic energy at the end of the
>> collapse: ", $ke2, "\n");
>>
>> **END PROGRAM**
> if someone needs to run this program to prove to themselves that a
> building can't collapse when 2 airliners slam into it, then i highly doubt
> they can a) manage to install perl and b) execute a perl script.
>
> HTH
Or, you can use an online Perl emulator, if running Perl is beyond
you. Nice tacit admission that running Perl is beyond you, BTW.
<snicker>
>>> also, has anybody here ever put a "chimney log" over a fire?
>> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5I4nYRIMIsA>
> that's kind of a mediocre one... i've gotten blue/green inner flames with
> a better sized fire and proper wood stacking underneath the chimney.
Swan Band radiation of the C2 radical from pyrolysis.
>>> the difference in pressure at the top and bottom of a chimney-like
>>> object in a fire seems to have some sort of "strange" effect on the rate of
>>> oxidation.
>> Not strange except to retards who don't understand that the faster a
>> fire gets oxygen,
> ...or maybe anybody who thinks that putting a word in quotes might signify
> "nothing".
It might if you'd used your quotes "properly" in context, you "moron".
LOL
> ...or who doesn't understand what a chimney even is beyond "something made
> out of bricks".
You're dealing with people like Rocky and Chimpy on Usenet. They don't
understand much. You're not far ahead of them, DildoRider. You are,
after all, a libtard.
<snicker>
>> the faster it burns. Thanks for admitting you're one
>> of those retards, DildoRider.
> again, either irony is lost on you or you are just being intentionally
> obtuse like a typical goof.
Am I? Or am I tweaking a libtard goof because every tweak ends up with
him doing his foot-stomping anal-retentive routine?
<snicker>
> back to your socialist-like *free* education of 911konspiracyK0oks...
> hahaha! ;)
I note they're pretty quiet lately. Even retards like that have to
succumb to reality once it's driven home with a size 16 steel-toe
boot. I mean, look at how much good it did your sanity, DildoRider.
Barely a trace of swish in your blather, and you're talking about TIG
welding and campfires just like a real man.
Yer welcome, DildoRider.
<snicker>
>>> hmm...
>> <snicker>
> ^^^ you dropped something...
That's OK. Tr!pey Olde Bird Buggerer (aka Steve Hall) will be around
to snuffle it up shortly. He loves that shit.
<snicker>
--
Robert M. Wolfe the Pittsburgh Pied Piper Of Penis
(aka DildoRider, aka Teh Mop Jockey)
5907 Stanton Ave.
Pittsburgh, PA
DildoRider admits he's stoooopid:
MID: <c65504c436778934b3e8a0fb022b7618@dizum.com>
=================================================
>> it appears I've kicked your ass so hard it's
>> damaged your brain, DildoRider.
> then it appears that you like shooting fish in
> barrels, intellectually lazy fuckhead that you are.
Well, you've just admitted that intellectually kicking your ass is
akin to shooting fish in a barrel... IOW, you've admitted that you're
stoooopid. No un-ringing that bell.
<snicker>
=================================================
DildoRider admits he's "really stupid" (his words). LOL
MID: <8a9faed11123abfaa1257fb33fb0c082@dizum.com>
=================================================
> so what you're saying is that your targets for attack
> have to be really stupid or else you can't manage?
=================================================
DildoRider admits much more about himself:
MID: <36c6802852caf4f712515dedb738e450@dizum.com>
=================================================
"absolutely and completely retarded, insane, gay, ugly, smelly,
toothless, dirt-poor, incontinent and possibly homeless"
=================================================
This is a libtard's method of "winning", for fuck sake.
<snicker>
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| From | Topaz <mars1933@hotmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-09-19 04:17 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <du9qvat4vrr1r8bfmbvhuid9ba6op7j6c2@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #521944 |
On Sat, 19 Sep 2015 06:41:51 +0200 (CEST), Friendly Neighborhood Vote
Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> wrote:
>Time to spin the kooks up again. Melt, kooks, melt. <snicker>
You worthless little turds are all the same. Imagining you proved
something in the past when no one even reads your posts. The only
thing you prove in the present is that you should do the world a favor
and flush yourself down a toilet.
http://911research.wtc7.net/wtc/analysis/compare/fires.html
Excepting the three 9-11 collapses, no fire, however severe, has ever
caused a steel-framed high-rise building to collapse. Following are
examples of high-rise fires that were far more severe than those in
WTC 1 and 2, and Building 7. In these precedents, the fires consumed
multiple floors, produced extensive window breakage, exhibited large
areas of emergent flames, and went on for several hours. The fires in
the WTC towers did none of these things.
The One Meridian Plaza Fire
One Meridian Plaza is a 38-floor skyscraper in Philadelphia that
suffered a severe fire on February 23, 1991. The fire started on the
22nd floor and raged for 18 hours, gutting eight floors and causing an
estimated $100 million in direct property loss. 1 2 3 It was
later described by Philadelphia officials as "the most significant
fire in this century".
The fire caused window breakage, cracking of granite, and failures of
spandrel panel connections. 4 Despite the severity and duration of
the fire, as evidenced by the damage the building sustained, no part
of the building collapsed.
www.tomatobubble.com www.ihr.org http://nationalvanguard.org
http://national-socialist-worldview.blogspot.com
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| From | Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> |
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| Date | 2015-09-19 22:11 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <e43d85f656261a3e6b56cd26f7c2c686@dizum.com> |
| In reply to | #521977 |
Time to spin the kooks up again. Melt, kooks, melt. <snicker> Topaz, in <news:du9qvat4vrr1r8bfmbvhuid9ba6op7j6c2@4ax.com> did thusly jump head first into the wood chipper again: > On Sat, 19 Sep 2015 06:41:51 +0200 (CEST), Friendly Neighborhood Vote > Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> wrote: >> Time to spin the kooks up again. Melt, kooks, melt. <snicker> > You worthl<SMACKAKOOK!> Oh, you're the most butthurt little TrooferTard I've ever seen. You're too stupid to grok reality, and too emotionally invested in being wrong to admit you're wrong. So your broken little brain continues to grasp at straws, expanding upon your kooky conspiracy theory with more and more implausible scenarios, to support your conspiracy theory and thus feed your unwarranted hatred of Jews. That way lies insanity, just so you know, TrooferTard. <snicker> > http://911research.wtc7.net/wtc/analysis/compare/fires.html > > Excepting the three 9-11 collapses, no fire, however severe, has ever > caused a steel-framed high-rise building to col<SMACKAKOOK!> Your continuing to desperately spew this lie so you can sustain your unwarranted hatred of Jews is noted. Kook. LOL Moron. LOL Laughingstock. LOL Message-ID: <a07468688db77a10dbf968ff5620e4c2@dizum.com> ==================================================== There is a long list of buildings that have had the spray-on insulation and suffered fire damage resulting in partial or complete collapse. The McCormick Center, the Sight and Sound Theater, the Kader Toy Factory in Singapore, the Dogwood Elementary School in Virginia, the Windsor Tower in Madrid, the Wisma Kosgoro in Jakarta, the Alexis Nihon Plaza Montreal, One New York Plaza (connection bolts sheared during fire, causing several steel filler beams on the 33-34th floors to fall and rest on the bottom flanges of their supporting girders), and several other examples. And the complete list. 22 multi-story buildings from 1970 to 2002 have collapsed solely from fire damage weakening their structural integrity... 6 of them being steel-framed buildings, all of those 6 being taller than 20 stories: <http://www.jensenhughes.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/White_Paper_Historical_Survey_Building_Collapse_NIST_JBeitel-NIwankiw_OCT-2006.pdf> ==================================================== 22 + 1... here's one that got hit with a plane, and had a fire that resulted in a partial collapse: The Bijlmermeer Apartment Complex in Amsterdam Zuidoost, Netherlands. 23 + 1... here's one the report above didn't catch: <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8XMTALBYRNA> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dsjfSG69Pik> 24 + 1... another the report above didn't catch: The steel-framed Wal-Mart super-center in Searcy, AR. <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2g-3omP5YM8> The fertilizer that spontaneously combusted was at the back rear corner of the building, all the way across the store from the freight roll-up door, along a large wide aisle at the back of the store that had compost materials, wood, lawn care equipment, etc.... the rest of the flammable materials in the building burned hot enough to not only cause massive steel structural member sagging, but collapse of the building. So don't even try the straw-man argument of "but it was an ammonia nitrate fire, they burn hot!" because the entire fucking structure sagged and collapsed, the fertilizer was a small amount at the back rear of the store. 25 + 1... another the report above didn't catch: <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RmLvp0t2xDw> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mefKrzcG2H4> Note that this is a wholly-steel structure building, without adequate fireproofing, and it eventually collapsed... this is what fire does to steel. 26 + 1... another the report above didn't catch: <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QVzrPaLRsfI> A steel structure that completely collapsed after a fire due to no fireproofing. 27 + 1... another the report above didn't catch: Mission Bay fire and structural collapse on 3/11/14: <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qJLFez9kwd0> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vx_G7G1R6Cg> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IgtsBxalxzs> The building was steel-framed, and had no fireproofing because it was still under construction. 28 + 1... another the report above didn't catch: <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D6JzTYLuKQQ> Ironically, in an insulation warehouse. And of course, the wholly-steel constructed Oakland Freeway was built *much* *MUCH* stronger than any skyscraper... it had to hold up thousands of tons of moving vehicles *and* contend with the occasional CA earthquake... yet in 19 minutes, with less fuel, and with much larger steel beams than any that were in the WTC towers, the steel became heat-weakened enough to collapse: <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hwOFLNiim3A> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8tjs5ILNkJc> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TH3gRwf4XIA> You'll note the loud popping noises as the steel heated and expanded. That is what fuel can do to steel. That the kooks cannot grasp the enormity of the forces involved leads them to make false assumptions... and once emotionally invested in their decision to remain uneducated, they continue to compound and expand their stupidity and insanity, eventually culminating in the hilariously wrong types of conclusions that kooks such as Roger T.E. Wittekind (aka Rocky) arrive at. This is the process that leads them into insanity. <snicker> -- Roger T.E. Wittekind PO Box 471 167 40th Avenue East Moline, IL 61244 309-755-6374 309-755-6394 Roger Wittekind the woman-stalking failed truck driver from East Moline, IL. Roger Wittekind (aka Rocky), your brain is grasping at straws in trying to avoid admitting *you* *are* *wrong*, and as your brain becomes more and more desperate to avoid the truth we promulgate (which utterly demolishes your kook conspiracy theory), it makes larger and larger leaps of illogic. For instance: ============================= A) You said the satellite uplink inteference seen in the WCBS video *you* *provided* was a nuke EMP, so your broken brain told you they must have buried nukes under the twin towers. Being a simpleton, you believed they just dug shallow holes, dropped the nukes in, smoothed over the concrete and walked away for 33 years. B) Your timing on the WCBS video *you* *provided* between the satellite uplink interference (what you deemed to be a "nuke EMP") and the tower shaking being 12 seconds (it was actually 14 seconds, but kooks can't count) means your supposed nukes had to have been buried from 37.28 to 96.93 *miles* below the surface (dependent upon soil composition and thus speed of compressive blast transmission). Never mind that we don't have the technology to drill that deep even today, let alone in 1968. Your broken brain had to yet again change your kooky little conspiracy theory to at least try to orient itself at some acute angle to reality. So no "dug a shallow hole, dropped the nukes in, covered it up, walked away for 33 years" anymore, now it was "dug an impossibly deep hole, dropped the nukes in, covered it up, walked away for 33 years". C) You're such a simpleton you didn't realize nukes require periodic replacement of their neutron-source trigger, which naturally radioactively decays over time, building up the decay byproduct xenon, which absorbs neutrons. It's called xenon poisoning. So your broken brain told you that someone had to service those nukes to keep the triggers viable... which means your broken brain was thus *forced* to change from "dug a shallow hole, dropped the nukes in, covered it up, walked away for 33 years", to "dug an impossibly deep hole, dropped the nukes in, covered it up, walked away for 33 years", to "built an entire *facility* impossibly deep under the WTC, complete with service personnel and" "4 blast doors to keep the explosion from getting back into the area the nukes were maintained" (your words). D) Your broken brain then said there were 19 nukes instead of your original 3, because you knew there were 19 instances of satellite uplink interference in the WCBS video *you* *provided*, in which you k'lamed one of the instances of satellite uplink interference was an EMP. And if you k'lame one of them is an EMP, they *all* must be EMPs, so your broken brain now tells you there were 19 nukes detonated in rapid succession... completely ignoring the fact that even one nuke detonation would plunge the city into darkness due to EMP burning out electrical substations, and completely ignoring the fact that no nuclear detonation byproducts were found in the rubble, in the vicinity of the rubble, or anywhere in NYC. E) Now that your broken brain was convinced that the nukes were buried deeply, of course, they had a very wide blast radius, which screwed up your kooky k'lame that they were used to demolish WTC1 and WTC2, but somehow missed WTC3 and WTC4... so your broken brain conceived that the nuclear weapons could somehow dig themselves up from that miles-deep facility to just below the WTC towers prior to exploding, in order to make their cone of destruction smaller. Nevermind that your broken brain said they dug through 37.28 to 96.93 *miles* of *solid* *bedrock* in *12* *seconds*. LOL F) So I've led you by the nose in a full circle... if those bombs your broken brain is telling you existed *did* dig their way up to underneath the WTC twin towers before detonating (they didn't... first because there were no nukes, second because it'd be impossible, but for the sake of argument, we'll continue), that leads right back to your calculation of the time between your claimed "EMP" (the satellite uplink interference on the WCBS video *you* *provided*) and the time the building shook, which is pretty much where we started. So I've proven by drop-kicking your retarded ass around the perimeter of sanity full-circle that you're insane. LOL G) Realizing the utter ridiculousness of your kook blather above, your broken brain has backpedaled and expanded your delusion even more as a desperate attempt at attaining some semblance of plausibility... saying there were 34 mini-nukes, and they were within and underneath the twin towers. If those 34 nukes you claim existed *did* explode, where are the nuclear detonation byproducts? The highly radioactive metal? The radiation burns and radiation sickness of people in the vicinity? Where are the nuclear detonation signature seismographs? Why did the electrical grid, all electronics and all vehicles survive not just one but *34* nuclear EMPs? And what about that timing between the WCBS video satellite uplink interference (what you claimed was "EMP") and the shaking of the tower? That's now off by 14 whole seconds, just as it was when your kooky conspiracy theory began. LOL H) Now you're saying the OKC bombing was nuclear in nature (MID: <e3f0e4f638e69c3db43076c8b842db91@dizum.com>), and a new era of widespread nuclear terrorism has arrived... proof positive that you're off your meds, Roget Wittekind. I) To back up yor "nuclear terrorism era" k'lame in H) above, you're now further k'laming there is such a thing as a magical "detonator" that causes a nuclear weapon to be a "clean nuke" which expulses no EMP and leaves no radiological contamination... heaping proof upon proof that you're off your meds, Roger Wittekind. J) To explain away the lack of any evidence of your k'lame of a "nuclear terrorism era", your broken brain has conceived that your magical nukes are employing "Hushaboom technology" (your words) to silence them. K) Your broken brain has now stated (MID: <YtWdnQvC1PTFNWjInZ2dnUU7-NmdnZ2d@giganews.com>) that "liquid freon in the air conditioners helped to turn the nuke into a themo [sic] nuclear bomb" (your words). Complete and utter nonsense from your thoroughly broken schizophrenic brain, Roger. IOW, your broken brain is far too stupid to discern fantasy from reality, so you've caught yourself in an unresolvable logic hole. And the harder you try to resolve it, the more you run around in little tard-circles, banging your head with your fist and doing your very best Rainman impersonation. I can twist your brain into a Gordian Knot with my knowledge. And I've just barely even started, I haven't even worked up a sweat yet. ============================= Kook. LOL
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| From | Topaz <mars1933@hotmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-09-20 04:14 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <57usvahgp16hgt0va8ckqh2cuofq01j5k6@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #522081 |
On Sat, 19 Sep 2015 22:11:25 +0200 (CEST), Friendly Neighborhood Vote
Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> wrote:
>Time to spin the kooks up again. Melt, kooks, melt. <snicker>
>
You worthless little turds are all the same. Imagining you proved
something in the past when no one even reads your posts. The only
thing you prove in the present is that you should do the world a favor
and flush yourself down a toilet.
www.tomatobubble.com www.ihr.org http://nationalvanguard.org
http://national-socialist-worldview.blogspot.com
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| From | "Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> |
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| Date | 2015-09-21 13:07 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <zd2dnefvf6A92p3LnZ2dnUU7-XOdnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #521977 |
"Topaz" <mars1933@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:du9qvat4vrr1r8bfmbvhuid9ba6op7j6c2@4ax.com... > On Sat, 19 Sep 2015 06:41:51 +0200 (CEST), Friendly Neighborhood Vote > Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> wrote: > >>Time to spin the kooks up again. Melt, kooks, melt. <snicker> > > You worthless little turds are all the same. Imagining you proved > something in the past when no one even reads your posts. The only > thing you prove in the present is that you should do the world a favor > and flush yourself down a toilet. > > http://911research.wtc7.net/wtc/analysis/compare/fires.html > > Excepting the three 9-11 collapses, no fire, however severe, has ever > caused a steel-framed high-rise building to collapse. Following are > examples of high-rise fires that were far more severe than those in > WTC 1 and 2, and Building 7. In these precedents, the fires consumed > multiple floors, produced extensive window breakage, exhibited large > areas of emergent flames, and went on for several hours. The fires in > the WTC towers did none of these things. > > The One Meridian Plaza Fire > One Meridian Plaza is a 38-floor skyscraper in Philadelphia that > suffered a severe fire on February 23, 1991. The fire started on the > 22nd floor and raged for 18 hours, gutting eight floors and causing an > estimated $100 million in direct property loss. 1 2 3 It was > later described by Philadelphia officials as "the most significant > fire in this century". > > The fire caused window breakage, cracking of granite, and failures of > spandrel panel connections. 4 Despite the severity and duration of > the fire, as evidenced by the damage the building sustained, no part > of the building collapsed. Good link especially where it mentions "The First Interstate Bank Fire" because I saw that on the news that night and went down there in the morning only to see water all over the place and the building still standing. That is the main reason I suspected something was afoot with the way the Twin Towers and WTC7 came down is the First Interstate Bank building stood strong. Even now I get a kick out of the clowns that try to make up stories about what was left of the Twin Towers because they can't do it without resorting to an outright lie about why there where Survivors in WTC1 and wall walls from both the Twin Towers stood tall despite the fact they should have been crushed by 102 floors of debris above them if they really collapsed. http://www.veteranstoday.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/blast3.jpeg Rocky
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| From | "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-09-22 04:53 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <jqn00b966l0pf8g7e6rbdq77gpl8tj2gua@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #522512 |
On Mon, 21 Sep 2015 13:07:27 -0500, "Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> wrote:
>
>"Topaz" <mars1933@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>news:du9qvat4vrr1r8bfmbvhuid9ba6op7j6c2@4ax.com...
>> On Sat, 19 Sep 2015 06:41:51 +0200 (CEST), Friendly Neighborhood Vote
>> Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> wrote:
>>
>>>Time to spin the kooks up again. Melt, kooks, melt. <snicker>
>>
>> You worthless little turds are all the same. Imagining you proved
>> something in the past when no one even reads your posts. The only
>> thing you prove in the present is that you should do the world a favor
>> and flush yourself down a toilet.
>>
>> http://911research.wtc7.net/wtc/analysis/compare/fires.html
>>
>> Excepting the three 9-11 collapses, no fire, however severe, has ever
>> caused a steel-framed high-rise building to collapse. Following are
>> examples of high-rise fires that were far more severe than those in
>> WTC 1 and 2, and Building 7. In these precedents, the fires consumed
>> multiple floors, produced extensive window breakage, exhibited large
>> areas of emergent flames, and went on for several hours. The fires in
>> the WTC towers did none of these things.
>>
>> The One Meridian Plaza Fire
>> One Meridian Plaza is a 38-floor skyscraper in Philadelphia that
>> suffered a severe fire on February 23, 1991. The fire started on the
>> 22nd floor and raged for 18 hours, gutting eight floors and causing an
>> estimated $100 million in direct property loss. 1 2 3 It was
>> later described by Philadelphia officials as "the most significant
>> fire in this century".
>>
>> The fire caused window breakage, cracking of granite, and failures of
>> spandrel panel connections. 4 Despite the severity and duration of
>> the fire, as evidenced by the damage the building sustained, no part
>> of the building collapsed.
>
>Good link especially where it mentions "The First Interstate Bank Fire"
>because I saw that on the news that night and went down there in the morning
>only to see water all over the place and the building still standing.
>
>That is the main reason I suspected something was afoot with the way the
>Twin Towers and WTC7 came down is the First Interstate Bank building stood
>strong.
>
Had the planes not hit the towers, and debris from the towers not
hit #7, it is possible they'd be standing today.
Well, maybe not #7, since it was scheduled to be demolished. But
I'm confident you get my meaning.
>Even now I get a kick out of the clowns that try to make up stories about
>what was left of the Twin Towers because they can't do it without resorting
>to an outright lie about why there where Survivors in WTC1 and wall walls
>from both the Twin Towers stood tall despite the fact they should have been
>crushed by 102 floors of debris above them if they really collapsed.
> http://www.veteranstoday.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/blast3.jpeg
>
Where is the lie? And why do you continue to use an image the you
KNOW proves your claims wrong?
"Reason and evidence can't change ones opinion on a topic if their
belief wasn't based on reason and evidence to start with."
Roger "Rocky" Wittekind explaining why he still claims nukes were used
on 9/11/01 in
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| From | Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> |
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| Date | 2015-09-21 18:25 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <40e47634b06c4e42e3b552f0b761aa9c@dizum.com> |
| In reply to | #521944 |
Time to spin the kooks up again. Melt, kooks, melt. <snicker>
Robert M. Wolfe the Pittsburgh Pied Piper Of Penis (aka DildoRider) of
5907 Stanton Ave., Pittsburgh, PA (aka Teh Mop Jockey), socked up as
root@127.0.0.1, in <news:op.x5apk6m1tm21m2@benson.localhost> did
thusly jump head first into the wood chipper again:
> On Sat, 19 Sep 2015 00:41:51 -0400, Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler
> Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> wrote:
>> Time to spin the kooks up again. Melt, kooks, melt. <snicker>
>>
>> Robert M. Wolfe the Pittsburgh Pied Piper Of Penis (aka DildoRider) of
>> 5907 Stanton Ave., Pittsburgh, PA (aka Teh Mop Jockey), socked up as
>> root@127.0.0.1, in <news:op.x46hi4f9tm21m2@benson.localhost> did
>> thusly jump head first into the wood chipper again:
>>> On Fri, 18 Sep 2015 00:44:32 -0400, Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler
>>> Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> wrote:
>>>> Time to spin the kooks up again. Melt, kooks, melt. <snicker>
>>>>
>>>> Robert M. Wolfe the Pittsburgh Pied Piper Of Penis (aka DildoRider) of
>>>> 5907 Stanton Ave., Pittsburgh, PA (aka Teh Mop Jockey), socked up as
>>>> root@127.0.0.1, in <news:op.x43crnfwtm21m2@benson.localhost> did
>>>> thusly jump head first into the wood chipper again:
>>>>> On Thu, 17 Sep 2015 00:36:30 -0400, Friendly Neighborhood Vote
>>>>> Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> wrote:
>>>>>> Time to spin the kooks up again. Melt, kooks, melt. <snicker>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Topaz, in <news:1bmjva9oh48ftbi97hv598lnduqbqrhj2p@4ax.com> did
>>>>>> thusly jump head first into the wood chipper again:
>>>>>>> On Tue, 15 Sep 2015 17:34:44 -0400, Sarah Ehrett <ninety7gt@cox.net>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> It didn't melt steel it WEAKENED IT.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> It isn't rocket science to know that if you heat steel it WEAKENS
>>>>>>>> it. WEAKENED steel will fail. When it can no longer hold a load
>>>>>>>> failure occurs.
>>>>>>> For one thing that wouldn't quickly collapse the whole building.
>>>>>>> And a lot of steel did melt. This youtube video is absolute proof:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h7S9bnd_pnY
>>>>>> I see no molten steel in that entire video. I see a large ball of
>>>>>> what was once molten metal, with no analysis of where it came from. Of
>>>>>> course, structural steel wasn't the only steel in the twin towers.
>>>>>> There was plenty of very low-grade steel in office furniture.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Steel loses a significant amount of its strength just before it
>>>>>> starts to glow a dull red (approx.900 deg.F). We know the temperature
>>>>>> reached at least 950 F because the aircraft frames melted.
>>>>>> 2219-T81 aircraft grade aluminum melts at 950 F.
>>>>>> Heated to a bright orange (nowhere near the melting point), steel
>>>>>> enters a "plastic" state. Exceptions are specialized steel alloys
>>>>>> which have outstanding heat tolerance, but are much too costly to
>>>>>> frame a building with.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I find it strange that we have reports of "molten steel" (likely not
>>>>>> structural steel, but cheaper, lower grade steel in office furniture
>>>>>> and interior finish materials... imagine how many office chairs alone
>>>>>> there were, likely at least 250 per floor... and almost all of them
>>>>>> made of very low-grade steel... at just 5 pounds per chair or table,
>>>>>> that's half a ton of very low-grade steel per floor), yet no actual
>>>>>> pictures of same... not even any pictures of that "molten steel"
>>>>>> being pulled out of the ground. Plenty of pictures of incandescently hot
>>>>>> steel being pulled out of the ground... no molten steel.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Whoopsie:
>>>>>> <http://www.skyscrapersafety.org/html/article_20040619.html>
>>>>>> 9/11 cops saw collapse coming
>>>>>> =========================================================
>>>>>> The World Trade Center towers showed telltale signs they were about
>>>>>> to collapse several minutes before each crumbled to the ground,
>>>>>> scientists probing the Sept. 11, 2001, disaster said yesterday.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In the case of the north tower, police chopper pilots reported seeing
>>>>>> the warning signs - an inward bowing of the building facade - at
>>>>>> least eight minutes before it collapsed at 10:29 a.m.
>>>>>> =========================================================
>>>>>>
>>>>>> <http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=newsarchive&sid=aCuh.ATdfOXc&refer=top_world_news>
>>>>>> =========================================================
>>>>>> Federal engineering investigators studying the destruction of the
>>>>>> World Trade Center's twin towers on Sept. 11 said New York Police
>>>>>> Department aviation units reported an inward bowing of the buildings'
>>>>>> columns in the minutes before they collapsed, a signal they were
>>>>>> about to fall.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ``No evidence has been found to suggest the information was
>>>>>> communicated to all emergency responders at the scene,'' said an
>>>>>> executive summary of a progress report by the National Institute of
>>>>>> Standards and Technology, which is conducting the study.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Investigators also found evidence that the south tower, which fell 56
>>>>>> minutes after it was struck by terrorists in a hijacked commercial
>>>>>> jet, had less fire proofing than the north tower, which held up for
>>>>>> about double the time after it was hit.
>>>>>> =========================================================
>>>>>>
>>>>>> <http://www.debunking911.com/moltensteel.htm>
>>>>>> <http://www.debunking911.com/debris.jpg>
>>>>>> See the sagging floor beams in the picture above? Just as I said, the
>>>>>> floor spars sagged, ripped apart the viscoelastic dampers, which
>>>>>> removed the horizontal support for the outer truss frame. The truss
>>>>>> frame at the top-most mechanical room floor (where all the truss
>>>>>> frame sections were inexplicably joined at one floor... they were
>>>>>> staggered on every other floor to increase strength) bore the load
>>>>>> of the increased weight on the truss frame until the two 5/8" bolts
>>>>>> joining each truss frame section together broke. This left the
>>>>>> entire truss frame above that mechanical room floor disconnected,
>>>>>> hanging off the top-hat truss, which transferred all that weight
>>>>>> to the central column and magnified the buckling force upon the
>>>>>> central column. The fire heat-weakened the central column, which
>>>>>> buckled, transferring some of the weight back onto the truss frame
>>>>>> and ripping even more of the viscoelastic dampers. The truss frame
>>>>>> collapsed at that mechanical room floor (which can be seen in some
>>>>>> of the videos immediately prior to the whole-building collapse),
>>>>>> and it collapsed slightly sideways due to the hole left by the
>>>>>> aircraft impact. The collapse of the truss frame at the mechanical
>>>>>> room floor triggered the cascading whole-building collapse, and the
>>>>>> angle at which the upper truss frame collapsed dragged the building
>>>>>> slightly off-center as it fell, leaving behind the surviving
>>>>>> staircase at the base of the building because it was outside the
>>>>>> 'fall shadow' of the building.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That pretty much negates you kook's "controlled demolition" blather.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You moron.
>>>>> i've molten steel with as little as 220 volts plus some current.
>>>> You can melt steel with a Bic lighter. Get a steel scrubbing sponge
>>>> and a lighter and try it out. You'll also see tiny metal balls form,
>>>> just as was found at the WTC site... strange that some of the
>>>> insulation in the towers was rock wool, eh?
>>>>
>>>> <http://www.slg.jp/e/slag/product/rockwool.html>
>>>>> i wonder how much stored kinetic energy in all those floors of
>>>>> carpets, wood, desks, paper, plastic, charred humans, and a
>>>>> little bit of 2 exploded planes had in it? has anybody ever
>>>>> wagered a guess?
>>>> 250 to 300 GigaJoules per tower, or a total of 138 MWh to 166 MWh. Or
>>>> approximately enough energy to fuel one person at 2000 kilocalories
>>>> per day for 196 years. IOW, a great fucking lot of energy. And that
>>>> doesn't even take into account the amount of heat gained from burning
>>>> material, that's just the potential energy of the building converting
>>>> to heat.
>>>> http://www.debunking911.com/moltensteel.htm
>>>>
>>>> At 32,000 sq feet of tenant space per floor and at 4lbs per sq ft of
>>>> combustible material (at 5 lbs per sq ft NIST found that the fires
>>>> moved too slowly) for 110 floors (-6 floors for mechanical + 6 for
>>>> underground) is equal to 14 Million POUNDS of combustible material. Or
>>>> 7,000 TONS. Clearly a RESPECTABLE amount of burnable material per
>>>> TOWER. Thus the rubble pile had ~ 28 MILLION POUNDS of combustible
>>>> material not including what was in the Marriot hotel and its parking
>>>> garage.
>>>>
>>>> **BEGIN PROGRAM**
>>>>
>>>> # Demonstrates the kinetic energy of the WTC collapses, to debunk 9/11
>>>> conspiracies # http://www.geocities.com/debunking911/moltensteel.htm
>>>> #
>>>> #!/usr/bin/perl
>>>> #
>>>> # Variables for calculations
>>>> $m = 4285500; # mass of one floor (kg)
>>>> $mt = 0; # mass of falling section
>>>> $v1 = 0; # beginning velocity for the current step
>>>> $v2 = 0; # velocity at impact
>>>> $v3 = 0; # ending velocity for prior step $p = 0; # current momentum
>>>> $ke1 = 0; # kinetic energy at impact
>>>> $ke2 = 0; # kinetic energy after impact
>>>> $de = 0; # total energy dissipated so far $a = 9.80665; # acceleration
>>>> of gravity (constant) $t = 0; # cumulative time taken
>>>> $t1 = 0; # time taken for this step
>>>> $d = 3.8; # distance between floors (418m/110 stories) $mt = $fc*$m; #
>>>> initialize mass of falling section # # Calculations for WTC Tower One
>>>> $fc = 13; # floor count of falling section (13 floors for WTC One)
>>>> $rfc = 110 - $fc; # initialize remaining floor count of uncollapsed
>>>> floors print("Data for WTC Tower One\n"); print("\n"); while($rfc > 0)
>>>> { print("Data for story ", $rfc, " -\n");
>>>> $v1 = $v3; # starting velocity is ending for last step
>>>> $v2 = (($v1*2)+((2*$a)*$d))**0.5; # impact velocity for this step by
>>>> formula print("Impact velocity: ", $v2, "\n"); $p = $mt*$v2; #
>>>> momentum at impact print("Impulse delivered: ", $p, "\n");
>>>> $ke1 = ($mt*($v2**2))/2; # kinetic energy at impact print("Impact
>>>> kinetic energy: ", $ke1, "\n"); $fc++; # increment falling floor count
>>>> $mt = $fc*$m; # update mass of falling section
>>>> $v3 = $p/$mt; # new velocity
>>>> print("Velocity after impact: ", $v3, "\n");
>>>> $ke2 = ($mt*($v3**2))/2; # kinetic energy after impact
>>>> print("Remaining kinetic energy: ", $ke2, "\n"); $de += $ke1 - $ke2; #
>>>> add dissipated kinetic energy to total print("Kinetic energy
>>>> dissipated: ", $ke1 - $ke2, "\n");
>>>> $t1 = $d/(($v2 + $v1)/2); # time for this step by formula print("Time
>>>> spent collapsing: ", $t1, "\n"); $t += $t1; # add step time to running
>>>> total $rfc--; # decrement remaining floor count print("\n"); }
>>>> print("Overall WTC Tower One data -\n"); print("Total collapse time:
>>>> ", $t, "\n"); print("Total energy dissipated during the collapse: ",
>>>> $de, "\n"); print("Remaining kinetic energy at the end of the
>>>> collapse: ", $ke2, "\n"); print("\n"); # # Calculations for WTC Tower
>>>> Two $fc = 39; # floor count of falling section (39 floors for WTC Two)
>>>> $rfc = 110 - $fc; # initialize remaining floor count of uncollapsed
>>>> floors print("Data for WTC Tower Two\n"); print("\n"); while($rfc > 0)
>>>> { print("Data for story ", $rfc, " -\n");
>>>> $v1 = $v3; # starting velocity is ending for last step
>>>> $v2 = (($v1*2)+((2*$a)*$d))**0.5; # impact velocity for this step by
>>>> formula print("Impact velocity: ", $v2, "\n"); $p = $mt*$v2; #
>>>> momentum at impact print("Impulse delivered: ", $p, "\n");
>>>> $ke1 = ($mt*($v2**2))/2; # kinetic energy at impact print("Impact
>>>> kinetic energy: ", $ke1, "\n"); $fc++; # increment falling floor count
>>>> $mt = $fc*$m; # update mass of falling section
>>>> $v3 = $p/$mt; # new velocity
>>>> print("Velocity after impact: ", $v3, "\n");
>>>> $ke2 = ($mt*($v3**2))/2; # kinetic energy after impact
>>>> print("Remaining kinetic energy: ", $ke2, "\n"); $de += $ke1 - $ke2; #
>>>> add dissipated kinetic energy to total print("Kinetic energy
>>>> dissipated: ", $ke1 - $ke2, "\n");
>>>> $t1 = $d/(($v2 + $v1)/2); # time for this step by formula print("Time
>>>> spent collapsing: ", $t1, "\n"); $t += $t1; # add step time to running
>>>> total $rfc--; # decrement remaining floor count print("\n"); }
>>>> print("Overall WTC Tower Two data -\n"); print("Total collapse time:
>>>> ", $t, "\n"); print("Total energy dissipated during the collapse: ",
>>>> $de, "\n"); print("Remaining kinetic energy at the end of the
>>>> collapse: ", $ke2, "\n");
>>>>
>>>> **END PROGRAM**
>>> if someone needs to run this program to prove to themselves that a
>>> building can't collapse when 2 airliners slam into it, then i highly
>>> doubt they can a) manage to install perl and b) execute a perl script.
>> Or, you can use an online Perl emulator, if running Perl is beyond
>> you. Nice tacit admission that running Perl is beyond you, BTW.
> yep.. i can't figure it out. you aer so smort.
Your admission that you couldn't get the Perl program working, noted.
<snicker>
>> Swan Band radiation of the C2 radical from pyrolysis.
> how does it feel to be the dumbest smart person in the room that nobody
> likes?
Except I'm the smartest smart person in the room, DildoRider. You
didn't even know about Swan Bands until I told you about them. Let me
guess, you thought the green fire was due to copper contamination in
the fire? Oh... you're so stoooopid you didn't even know copper burns
green.
<snicker>
>>> ...or maybe anybody who thinks that putting a word in quotes might
>>> signify "nothing".
>> It might if you'd used your quotes "properly" in context, you "moron".
>> LOL
> you sure seem to be "happy".
You sure seem to be "smart". LOL
>>> ...or who doesn't understand what a chimney even is beyond "something
>>> made out of bricks".
>> You're dealing with people like Rocky and Chimpy on Usenet.
> no i'm not.
Ok, so you run from their "intellect". No shame in your admitting
they're "smarter" and "saner" than you.
<snicker>
>> They don't understand much. You're not far ahead of them, DildoRider.
>> You are, after all, a libtard.
> can you name a few reasons to hate a liberal?
1) You're detached from reality. IOW, you're delusional.
2) You lie about pretty much everything to sustain your delusions.
3) You couldn't buy a clue if your life depended upon it.
4) When you're given free clue, you prove yourself clue-repellant.
<snicker>
>> Am I? Or am I tweaking a libtard goof because every tweak ends up with
>> him doing his foot-stomping anal-retentive routine?
> what you're doing is making an ass of yourself and demonstrating the
> psyche of the common coward who hides behind a keyboard to spew
> conservative 1% buttlicking bullshit.
Nicely foot-stomped, DildoRider. It's not you're fault you're a
low-rent uneducated delusional boner-huffing dildoriding libtard
product of a public education. Blame your parents. You know, the ones
you lied about and k'lamed were rich living in their shitty $154,977
hovel. If you were rich, you wouldn't have had to pay for 15 years on
that college loan for the education you didn't get, College Dropout.
And you wouldn't have to live in a shitty shanty half-a-house that's
appreciated by a net total of $36 per month for the whole time you've
owned it, as you bragged about how much it was "worth"... not that the
property actually appreciated in value, it's price was merely
increased by the rising real estate market... a rising level in the
toilet bowl lifts all turds, you know. Too bad it couldn't even keep
up with inflation.
<snicker>
>>> back to your socialist-like *free* education of 911konspiracyK0oks...
>>> hahaha! ;)
>> I note they're pretty quiet lately.
> maybe they gave up dealing with a sociopath hiding behind a remailer.
The delivery method of truth isn't relevant. That it's truth they're
running from is all that's relevant. You've done the same.
<snicker>
>> Even retards like that have to succumb to reality once it's
>> driven home with a size 16 steel-toe boot.
> you talk about your feet a lot, probably to distract from something else.
You seem to be obsessed about that "something else"... to the point
that you turn your "girlfriend" into a "strap-on dude" and make her
"rectally ream" you, DildoRider.
<snicker>
>> I mean, look at how much good it did your sanity, DildoRider.
>> Barely a trace of swish in your blather, and you're talking about TIG
>> welding and campfires just like a real man.
> wow. the misogyny is getting a little thick, "big man".
What does misogyny have to do with anything, DildoRider? Unless you're
admitting you're a tranny. LOL
> if you were so great you'd likely not have to put others down. you're
> nothing but a swole up infant. it's no wonder that gerg idolizes you.
Awww, you're so butthurt, DildoRider. Why can't you refute any of that
truth that I've promulgated, which you've run away from?
<snicker>
>> Yer welcome, DildoRider.
> yeah, thanks for outing yourself as a sad little lonely-in-a-crowded-room
> malcontent. i'm sorry i hadn't mentioned it sooner.
You're projecting, DildoRider. LOL
>>> ^^^ you dropped something...
>> That's OK. Tr!pey Olde Bird Buggerer (aka Steve Hall) will be around
>> to snuffle it up shortly. He loves that shit.
> so you have a shit-eating snicker?
If you consider Tr!pey Olde Bird Buggerer to be a "shit-eating
snicker", that's your prerogative.
<snicker>
> you might want to brush your teeth.
Yes, Steve, brush your teeth.
<snicker>
--
Robert M. Wolfe the Pittsburgh Pied Piper Of Penis
(aka DildoRider, aka Teh Mop Jockey)
5907 Stanton Ave.
Pittsburgh, PA
DildoRider admits he's stoooopid:
MID: <c65504c436778934b3e8a0fb022b7618@dizum.com>
=================================================
>> it appears I've kicked your ass so hard it's
>> damaged your brain, DildoRider.
> then it appears that you like shooting fish in
> barrels, intellectually lazy fuckhead that you are.
Well, you've just admitted that intellectually kicking your ass is
akin to shooting fish in a barrel... IOW, you've admitted that you're
stoooopid. No un-ringing that bell.
<snicker>
=================================================
DildoRider admits he's "really stupid" (his words). LOL
MID: <8a9faed11123abfaa1257fb33fb0c082@dizum.com>
=================================================
> so what you're saying is that your targets for attack
> have to be really stupid or else you can't manage?
=================================================
DildoRider admits much more about himself:
MID: <36c6802852caf4f712515dedb738e450@dizum.com>
=================================================
"absolutely and completely retarded, insane, gay, ugly, smelly,
toothless, dirt-poor, incontinent and possibly homeless"
=================================================
This is a libtard's method of "winning", for fuck sake.
<snicker>
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| From | "\"Fakey's\" dogwhistle holder living at 5907 Stanton Ave., Pittsburgh, PA (aka Teh Mop Jockey), socked up as 5907 Stanton Avenue, Pittsburgh, PA 15206-2117" <root@127.0.0.1> |
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| Date | 2015-09-21 20:27 -0400 |
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| In reply to | #522490 |
On Mon, 21 Sep 2015 12:25:52 -0400, Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler
Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> wrote:
> Time to spin the kooks up again. Melt, kooks, melt. <snicker>
>
> Robert M. Wolfe the Pittsburgh Pied Piper Of Penis (aka DildoRider) of
> 5907 Stanton Ave., Pittsburgh, PA (aka Teh Mop Jockey), socked up as
> root@127.0.0.1, in <news:op.x5apk6m1tm21m2@benson.localhost> did
> thusly jump head first into the wood chipper again:
>
>> On Sat, 19 Sep 2015 00:41:51 -0400, Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler
>> Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> wrote:
>
>>> Time to spin the kooks up again. Melt, kooks, melt. <snicker>
>>>
>>> Robert M. Wolfe the Pittsburgh Pied Piper Of Penis (aka DildoRider) of
>>> 5907 Stanton Ave., Pittsburgh, PA (aka Teh Mop Jockey), socked up as
>>> root@127.0.0.1, in <news:op.x46hi4f9tm21m2@benson.localhost> did
>>> thusly jump head first into the wood chipper again:
>
>>>> On Fri, 18 Sep 2015 00:44:32 -0400, Friendly Neighborhood Vote
>>>> Wrangler
>>>> Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> wrote:
>
>>>>> Time to spin the kooks up again. Melt, kooks, melt. <snicker>
>>>>>
>>>>> Robert M. Wolfe the Pittsburgh Pied Piper Of Penis (aka DildoRider)
>>>>> of
>>>>> 5907 Stanton Ave., Pittsburgh, PA (aka Teh Mop Jockey), socked up as
>>>>> root@127.0.0.1, in <news:op.x43crnfwtm21m2@benson.localhost> did
>>>>> thusly jump head first into the wood chipper again:
>
>>>>>> On Thu, 17 Sep 2015 00:36:30 -0400, Friendly Neighborhood Vote
>>>>>> Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> wrote:
>
>>>>>>> Time to spin the kooks up again. Melt, kooks, melt. <snicker>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Topaz, in <news:1bmjva9oh48ftbi97hv598lnduqbqrhj2p@4ax.com> did
>>>>>>> thusly jump head first into the wood chipper again:
>
>>>>>>>> On Tue, 15 Sep 2015 17:34:44 -0400, Sarah Ehrett
>>>>>>>> <ninety7gt@cox.net>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>
>>>>>>>>> It didn't melt steel it WEAKENED IT.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> It isn't rocket science to know that if you heat steel it WEAKENS
>>>>>>>>> it. WEAKENED steel will fail. When it can no longer hold a load
>>>>>>>>> failure occurs.
>
>>>>>>>> For one thing that wouldn't quickly collapse the whole building.
>>>>>>>> And a lot of steel did melt. This youtube video is absolute proof:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h7S9bnd_pnY
>
>>>>>>> I see no molten steel in that entire video. I see a large ball of
>>>>>>> what was once molten metal, with no analysis of where it came
>>>>>>> from. Of
>>>>>>> course, structural steel wasn't the only steel in the twin towers.
>>>>>>> There was plenty of very low-grade steel in office furniture.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Steel loses a significant amount of its strength just before it
>>>>>>> starts to glow a dull red (approx.900 deg.F). We know the
>>>>>>> temperature
>>>>>>> reached at least 950 F because the aircraft frames melted.
>>>>>>> 2219-T81 aircraft grade aluminum melts at 950 F.
>
>>>>>>> Heated to a bright orange (nowhere near the melting point), steel
>>>>>>> enters a "plastic" state. Exceptions are specialized steel alloys
>>>>>>> which have outstanding heat tolerance, but are much too costly to
>>>>>>> frame a building with.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I find it strange that we have reports of "molten steel" (likely
>>>>>>> not
>>>>>>> structural steel, but cheaper, lower grade steel in office
>>>>>>> furniture
>>>>>>> and interior finish materials... imagine how many office chairs
>>>>>>> alone
>>>>>>> there were, likely at least 250 per floor... and almost all of them
>>>>>>> made of very low-grade steel... at just 5 pounds per chair or
>>>>>>> table,
>>>>>>> that's half a ton of very low-grade steel per floor), yet no actual
>>>>>>> pictures of same... not even any pictures of that "molten steel"
>>>>>>> being pulled out of the ground. Plenty of pictures of
>>>>>>> incandescently hot
>>>>>>> steel being pulled out of the ground... no molten steel.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Whoopsie:
>>>>>>> <http://www.skyscrapersafety.org/html/article_20040619.html>
>>>>>>> 9/11 cops saw collapse coming
>>>>>>> =========================================================
>>>>>>> The World Trade Center towers showed telltale signs they were about
>>>>>>> to collapse several minutes before each crumbled to the ground,
>>>>>>> scientists probing the Sept. 11, 2001, disaster said yesterday.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> In the case of the north tower, police chopper pilots reported
>>>>>>> seeing
>>>>>>> the warning signs - an inward bowing of the building facade - at
>>>>>>> least eight minutes before it collapsed at 10:29 a.m.
>>>>>>> =========================================================
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> <http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=newsarchive&sid=aCuh.ATdfOXc&refer=top_world_news>
>>>>>>> =========================================================
>>>>>>> Federal engineering investigators studying the destruction of the
>>>>>>> World Trade Center's twin towers on Sept. 11 said New York Police
>>>>>>> Department aviation units reported an inward bowing of the
>>>>>>> buildings'
>>>>>>> columns in the minutes before they collapsed, a signal they were
>>>>>>> about to fall.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ``No evidence has been found to suggest the information was
>>>>>>> communicated to all emergency responders at the scene,'' said an
>>>>>>> executive summary of a progress report by the National Institute of
>>>>>>> Standards and Technology, which is conducting the study.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Investigators also found evidence that the south tower, which fell
>>>>>>> 56
>>>>>>> minutes after it was struck by terrorists in a hijacked commercial
>>>>>>> jet, had less fire proofing than the north tower, which held up for
>>>>>>> about double the time after it was hit.
>>>>>>> =========================================================
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> <http://www.debunking911.com/moltensteel.htm>
>>>>>>> <http://www.debunking911.com/debris.jpg>
>>>>>>> See the sagging floor beams in the picture above? Just as I said,
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> floor spars sagged, ripped apart the viscoelastic dampers, which
>>>>>>> removed the horizontal support for the outer truss frame. The truss
>>>>>>> frame at the top-most mechanical room floor (where all the truss
>>>>>>> frame sections were inexplicably joined at one floor... they were
>>>>>>> staggered on every other floor to increase strength) bore the load
>>>>>>> of the increased weight on the truss frame until the two 5/8" bolts
>>>>>>> joining each truss frame section together broke. This left the
>>>>>>> entire truss frame above that mechanical room floor disconnected,
>>>>>>> hanging off the top-hat truss, which transferred all that weight
>>>>>>> to the central column and magnified the buckling force upon the
>>>>>>> central column. The fire heat-weakened the central column, which
>>>>>>> buckled, transferring some of the weight back onto the truss frame
>>>>>>> and ripping even more of the viscoelastic dampers. The truss frame
>>>>>>> collapsed at that mechanical room floor (which can be seen in some
>>>>>>> of the videos immediately prior to the whole-building collapse),
>>>>>>> and it collapsed slightly sideways due to the hole left by the
>>>>>>> aircraft impact. The collapse of the truss frame at the mechanical
>>>>>>> room floor triggered the cascading whole-building collapse, and the
>>>>>>> angle at which the upper truss frame collapsed dragged the building
>>>>>>> slightly off-center as it fell, leaving behind the surviving
>>>>>>> staircase at the base of the building because it was outside the
>>>>>>> 'fall shadow' of the building.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> That pretty much negates you kook's "controlled demolition"
>>>>>>> blather.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You moron.
>
>>>>>> i've molten steel with as little as 220 volts plus some current.
>
>>>>> You can melt steel with a Bic lighter. Get a steel scrubbing sponge
>>>>> and a lighter and try it out. You'll also see tiny metal balls form,
>>>>> just as was found at the WTC site... strange that some of the
>>>>> insulation in the towers was rock wool, eh?
>>>>>
>>>>> <http://www.slg.jp/e/slag/product/rockwool.html>
>
>>>>>> i wonder how much stored kinetic energy in all those floors of
>>>>>> carpets, wood, desks, paper, plastic, charred humans, and a
>>>>>> little bit of 2 exploded planes had in it? has anybody ever
>>>>>> wagered a guess?
>
>>>>> 250 to 300 GigaJoules per tower, or a total of 138 MWh to 166 MWh. Or
>>>>> approximately enough energy to fuel one person at 2000 kilocalories
>>>>> per day for 196 years. IOW, a great fucking lot of energy. And that
>>>>> doesn't even take into account the amount of heat gained from burning
>>>>> material, that's just the potential energy of the building converting
>>>>> to heat.
>
>>>>> http://www.debunking911.com/moltensteel.htm
>>>>>
>>>>> At 32,000 sq feet of tenant space per floor and at 4lbs per sq ft of
>>>>> combustible material (at 5 lbs per sq ft NIST found that the fires
>>>>> moved too slowly) for 110 floors (-6 floors for mechanical + 6 for
>>>>> underground) is equal to 14 Million POUNDS of combustible material.
>>>>> Or
>>>>> 7,000 TONS. Clearly a RESPECTABLE amount of burnable material per
>>>>> TOWER. Thus the rubble pile had ~ 28 MILLION POUNDS of combustible
>>>>> material not including what was in the Marriot hotel and its parking
>>>>> garage.
>>>>>
>>>>> **BEGIN PROGRAM**
>>>>>
>>>>> # Demonstrates the kinetic energy of the WTC collapses, to debunk
>>>>> 9/11
>>>>> conspiracies # http://www.geocities.com/debunking911/moltensteel.htm
>>>>> #
>>>>> #!/usr/bin/perl
>>>>> #
>>>>> # Variables for calculations
>>>>> $m = 4285500; # mass of one floor (kg)
>>>>> $mt = 0; # mass of falling section
>>>>> $v1 = 0; # beginning velocity for the current step
>>>>> $v2 = 0; # velocity at impact
>>>>> $v3 = 0; # ending velocity for prior step $p = 0; # current momentum
>>>>> $ke1 = 0; # kinetic energy at impact
>>>>> $ke2 = 0; # kinetic energy after impact
>>>>> $de = 0; # total energy dissipated so far $a = 9.80665; #
>>>>> acceleration
>>>>> of gravity (constant) $t = 0; # cumulative time taken
>>>>> $t1 = 0; # time taken for this step
>>>>> $d = 3.8; # distance between floors (418m/110 stories) $mt = $fc*$m;
>>>>> #
>>>>> initialize mass of falling section # # Calculations for WTC Tower One
>>>>> $fc = 13; # floor count of falling section (13 floors for WTC One)
>>>>> $rfc = 110 - $fc; # initialize remaining floor count of uncollapsed
>>>>> floors print("Data for WTC Tower One\n"); print("\n"); while($rfc >
>>>>> 0)
>>>>> { print("Data for story ", $rfc, " -\n");
>>>>> $v1 = $v3; # starting velocity is ending for last step
>>>>> $v2 = (($v1*2)+((2*$a)*$d))**0.5; # impact velocity for this step by
>>>>> formula print("Impact velocity: ", $v2, "\n"); $p = $mt*$v2; #
>>>>> momentum at impact print("Impulse delivered: ", $p, "\n");
>>>>> $ke1 = ($mt*($v2**2))/2; # kinetic energy at impact print("Impact
>>>>> kinetic energy: ", $ke1, "\n"); $fc++; # increment falling floor
>>>>> count
>>>>> $mt = $fc*$m; # update mass of falling section
>>>>> $v3 = $p/$mt; # new velocity
>>>>> print("Velocity after impact: ", $v3, "\n");
>>>>> $ke2 = ($mt*($v3**2))/2; # kinetic energy after impact
>>>>> print("Remaining kinetic energy: ", $ke2, "\n"); $de += $ke1 - $ke2;
>>>>> #
>>>>> add dissipated kinetic energy to total print("Kinetic energy
>>>>> dissipated: ", $ke1 - $ke2, "\n");
>>>>> $t1 = $d/(($v2 + $v1)/2); # time for this step by formula print("Time
>>>>> spent collapsing: ", $t1, "\n"); $t += $t1; # add step time to
>>>>> running
>>>>> total $rfc--; # decrement remaining floor count print("\n"); }
>>>>> print("Overall WTC Tower One data -\n"); print("Total collapse time:
>>>>> ", $t, "\n"); print("Total energy dissipated during the collapse: ",
>>>>> $de, "\n"); print("Remaining kinetic energy at the end of the
>>>>> collapse: ", $ke2, "\n"); print("\n"); # # Calculations for WTC Tower
>>>>> Two $fc = 39; # floor count of falling section (39 floors for WTC
>>>>> Two)
>>>>> $rfc = 110 - $fc; # initialize remaining floor count of uncollapsed
>>>>> floors print("Data for WTC Tower Two\n"); print("\n"); while($rfc >
>>>>> 0)
>>>>> { print("Data for story ", $rfc, " -\n");
>>>>> $v1 = $v3; # starting velocity is ending for last step
>>>>> $v2 = (($v1*2)+((2*$a)*$d))**0.5; # impact velocity for this step by
>>>>> formula print("Impact velocity: ", $v2, "\n"); $p = $mt*$v2; #
>>>>> momentum at impact print("Impulse delivered: ", $p, "\n");
>>>>> $ke1 = ($mt*($v2**2))/2; # kinetic energy at impact print("Impact
>>>>> kinetic energy: ", $ke1, "\n"); $fc++; # increment falling floor
>>>>> count
>>>>> $mt = $fc*$m; # update mass of falling section
>>>>> $v3 = $p/$mt; # new velocity
>>>>> print("Velocity after impact: ", $v3, "\n");
>>>>> $ke2 = ($mt*($v3**2))/2; # kinetic energy after impact
>>>>> print("Remaining kinetic energy: ", $ke2, "\n"); $de += $ke1 - $ke2;
>>>>> #
>>>>> add dissipated kinetic energy to total print("Kinetic energy
>>>>> dissipated: ", $ke1 - $ke2, "\n");
>>>>> $t1 = $d/(($v2 + $v1)/2); # time for this step by formula print("Time
>>>>> spent collapsing: ", $t1, "\n"); $t += $t1; # add step time to
>>>>> running
>>>>> total $rfc--; # decrement remaining floor count print("\n"); }
>>>>> print("Overall WTC Tower Two data -\n"); print("Total collapse time:
>>>>> ", $t, "\n"); print("Total energy dissipated during the collapse: ",
>>>>> $de, "\n"); print("Remaining kinetic energy at the end of the
>>>>> collapse: ", $ke2, "\n");
>>>>>
>>>>> **END PROGRAM**
>
>>>> if someone needs to run this program to prove to themselves that a
>>>> building can't collapse when 2 airliners slam into it, then i highly
>>>> doubt they can a) manage to install perl and b) execute a perl script.
>
>>> Or, you can use an online Perl emulator, if running Perl is beyond
>>> you. Nice tacit admission that running Perl is beyond you, BTW.
>
>> yep.. i can't figure it out. you aer so smort.
>
> Your admission that you couldn't get the Perl program working, noted.
yeah, because "smart" people like you would assume that linux sysadmins
with 2 decades of experience don't use perl. uh-huh.
>
> <snicker>
>
>>> Swan Band radiation of the C2 radical from pyrolysis.
>
>> how does it feel to be the dumbest smart person in the room that nobody
>> likes?
>
> Except I'm the smartest smart person in the room, DildoRider.
in fact, i bet you're the only person in the room which you speak of,
being a lonely misanthropic sociopath.
> You
> didn't even know about Swan Bands until I told you about them.
i knew about swan bands in 8th grade, dimbulb. i was the only person in
my self-directed organic chem IV class in high school.
> Let me
> guess, you thought the green fire was due to copper contamination in
> the fire? Oh... you're so stoooopid you didn't even know copper burns
> green.
nope, i never had 7 odd years of chemistry. in fact, i know absolutely
nothing, so you win. that was easy.
>
> <snicker>
>
>>>> ...or maybe anybody who thinks that putting a word in quotes might
>>>> signify "nothing".
>
>>> It might if you'd used your quotes "properly" in context, you "moron".
>>> LOL
>
>> you sure seem to be "happy".
>
> You sure seem to be "smart". LOL
why would i act smart? you don't waste your time attacking people you
think are smart. by your own admission, you can only manage to grapple
with stupid people.
>
>>>> ...or who doesn't understand what a chimney even is beyond "something
>>>> made out of bricks".
>
>>> You're dealing with people like Rocky and Chimpy on Usenet.
>
>> no i'm not.
>
> Ok, so you run from their "intellect". No shame in your admitting
> they're "smarter" and "saner" than you.
define: "dealing with" in regard to your usenet activity. i come here to
waste time while i wait for effects to process, something to finish
rendering, or compiling some C code, not to orchestrate some kind of
sandbox "king of the hill" exercise like you appear to have been invested
in for years and years.
>
> <snicker>
>
>>> They don't understand much. You're not far ahead of them, DildoRider.
>>> You are, after all, a libtard.
>
>> can you name a few reasons to hate a liberal?
>
> 1) You're detached from reality. IOW, you're delusional.
> 2) You lie about pretty much everything to sustain your delusions.
> 3) You couldn't buy a clue if your life depended upon it.
> 4) When you're given free clue, you prove yourself clue-repellant.
only four? seems petty.
>
> <snicker>
>
>>> Am I? Or am I tweaking a libtard goof because every tweak ends up with
>>> him doing his foot-stomping anal-retentive routine?
>
>> what you're doing is making an ass of yourself and demonstrating the
>> psyche of the common coward who hides behind a keyboard to spew
>> conservative 1% buttlicking bullshit.
>
> Nicely foot-stomped, DildoRider. It's not you're fault you're a
> low-rent uneducated delusional boner-huffing dildoriding libtard
> product of a public education. Blame your parents. You know, the ones
> you lied about and k'lamed were rich living in their shitty $154,977
> hovel.
people don't get rich wasting money on expensive shit, fakey. you ought
to know that.
you have 2 or three more generations of digging to do. free clue: one of
my direct relatives was a state senator and there are rumors that there
"may have" been some bootlegging going on during prohibition making a lot
of remote central PA farmers and police officers in those days quite
wealthy. better get to work!
another free cloo: my birth surname is not my current surname.
that should keep you busy googling for a while...
> If you were rich, you wouldn't have had to pay for 15 years on
> that college loan for the education you didn't get, College Dropout.
my parents are not from a generation that believes in spoiling children
and i don't operate from a mindset that defers to rely on family to solve
all of my problems. you wouldn't happen to know anybody that had their
parents take care of everything for them, do you? you seem to think
that's how it works for everybody, for some reason. just wondering where
you're getting your "data".
speaking of data: how dumb does one have to be to think that the
statistically averaged numbers you see on some website are indicative what
happens in real life? i told you that those numbers were not correct. i
told you that my parents are both retired. your little stalkyStats are
just stabs in the dark - which fits your modus operandi quite well, i must
say.
> And you wouldn't have to live in a shitty shanty half-a-house that's
> appreciated by a net total of $36 per month for the whole time you've
> owned it, as you bragged about how much it was "worth"... not that the
> property actually appreciated in value, it's price was merely
> increased by the rising real estate market...
you're so dumb that you think that statistics on a website are more
important than someone's perceived quality of life.
> a rising level in the
> toilet bowl lifts all turds, you know. Too bad it couldn't even keep
> up with inflation.
i bought it to live in, not to flip or give to my snot-nosed kid, genius.
i like a roof over my head where i can do whatever the hell i want without
shifty landlord or homeowner's association rules and i'm willing to pay
for it.
what was your first house like, fakey? something you wouldn't even want
to live in so you rented it out to some poor sap?
>
> <snicker>
>
>>>> back to your socialist-like *free* education of 911konspiracyK0oks...
>>>> hahaha! ;)
>
>>> I note they're pretty quiet lately.
>
>> maybe they gave up dealing with a sociopath hiding behind a remailer.
>
> The delivery method of truth isn't relevant. That it's truth they're
> running from is all that's relevant. You've done the same.
"troof"! LOL thanks for admitting that you're a troofTard. you're still
a sociopath and i expect that very soon we'll (TINW) see some very public
and undeniable evidence of that. "chickens coming home to roost" and such.
>
> <snicker>
>
>>> Even retards like that have to succumb to reality once it's
>>> driven home with a size 16 steel-toe boot.
>
>> you talk about your feet a lot, probably to distract from something
>> else.
>
> You seem to be obsessed about that "something else"...
i was talking about your tiny brain... i guess we found out not only that
i was
100% correct, but that what you were distracting from wasn't your atrophied
conservative noggin. it was, indeed, "something else".
> to the point
> that you turn your "girlfriend" into a "strap-on dude" and make her
> "rectally ream" you, DildoRider.
magical dildos dancing in your head turning girls into dudes much? pretty
sure i get bonus points for proving that you think about your junk at the
same time that you are fantasizing my girlfriend turning into a man and
"rectally reaming" me. are you trying to slyly hit on me, klosetBoi? LOL
sorry, i don't date insufferable oafs with 6 kids and hawt wives. :(
>
> <snicker>
>
>>> I mean, look at how much good it did your sanity, DildoRider.
>>> Barely a trace of swish in your blather, and you're talking about TIG
>>> welding and campfires just like a real man.
>
^ there's another of those funny spots where it looks like you meant to
say something,
but changed your mind. ...or perhaps your buggy quoting algorithm? it
seems to be indicating that you intentionally put a carriage return there,
but most likely, your cut/paste from your newsreader to your little dizum
duckblind app is adding extra carriage returns for no reason. to
demonstrate how dumb that looks, i'll be adding an extra carriage return
after them all. ;)
>> wow. the misogyny is getting a little thick, "big man".
>
> What does misogyny have to do with anything, DildoRider? Unless you're
> admitting you're a tranny. LOL
what do trannies have to do with anything besides your fixation on them
and your disgust at a man who would do such a horrible thing as "demote"
himself to the status of a woman (or maybe lower since your queerphobia
adds another layer of hate beyond plain-old hatred of femininity)?
>
>> if you were so great you'd likely not have to put others down. you're
>> nothing but a swole up infant. it's no wonder that gerg idolizes you.
>
> Awww, you're so butthurt, DildoRider. Why can't you refute
i came here to distract you from all of those other nasty ko0ks, that's
why.
> any of that
> truth that I've promulgated, which you've run away from?
all i see is you wasting your time and effort and actively denying that
you're wasting time and effort.
>
> <snicker>
>
>>> Yer welcome, DildoRider.
>
>> yeah, thanks for outing yourself as a sad little
>> lonely-in-a-crowded-room
>> malcontent. i'm sorry i hadn't mentioned it sooner.
>
> You're projecting, DildoRider. LOL
the truth hurts, does it? how many people are in the room that you are
currently in, fakey? (the man in the white scrubs doesn't count)
>
>>>> ^^^ you dropped something...
>
>>> That's OK. Tr!pey Olde Bird Buggerer (aka Steve Hall) will be around
>>> to snuffle it up shortly. He loves that shit.
>
>> so you have a shit-eating snicker?
>
> If you consider Tr!pey Olde Bird Buggerer to be a "shit-eating
> snicker", that's your prerogative.
i don't know who that is. i was speaking of your shit-eating snicker.
>
> <snicker>
>
>> you might want to brush your teeth.
>
> Yes, Steve, brush your teeth.
steve's not here man... </chong>
>
> <snicker>
>
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| From | Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2015-09-22 07:36 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <9da82a59334aa06844031bed9f803b1d@dizum.com> |
| In reply to | #522600 |
Time to spin the kooks up again. Melt, kooks, melt. <snicker> Robert M. Wolfe the Pittsburgh Pied Piper Of Penis (aka DildoRider) of 5907 Stanton Ave., Pittsburgh, PA (aka Teh Mop Jockey), socked up as sucksroot@127.0.0.1, in <news:op.x5b8wl0otm21m2@benson.localhost> did thusly jump head first into the wood chipper again: > On Mon, 21 Sep 2015 12:25:52 -0400, Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler > Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> wrote: >>>> Or, you can use an online Perl emulator, if running Perl is beyond >>>> you. Nice tacit admission that running Perl is beyond you, BTW. >>> yep.. i can't figure it out. you aer so smort. >> Your admission that you couldn't get the Perl program working, noted. > yeah, because "smart" people like you would assume that linux sysadmins > with 2 decades of experience don't use perl. uh-huh. Says the guy who couldn't figure out how to get a simple Perl program running, and is all pissed about it. If you were able to get the Perl program running, you can prove it by providing the exact number that the program spits out for Tower 1, DildoRider... if not, your blather is reduced to that of a butthurt kook pissed at his own stupidity. LOL >>>> Swan Band radiation of the C2 radical from pyrolysis. >>> how does it feel to be the dumbest smart person in the room that nobody >>> likes? >> Except I'm the smartest smart person in the room, DildoRider. > in fact, i bet you're the only person in the room which you speak of, > being a lonely misanthropic sociopath. Oh, your fanfic just screams "butthurt", DildoRider... was it something I said that set you off? LOL >> You didn't even know about Swan Bands until I told you about them. > i knew about swan bands in 8th grade, dimbulb. i was the only person in > my self-directed organic chem IV class in high school. Says the lonely misanthropic sociopath who was the only person in the room, by his own admission. LOL >> Let me guess, you thought the green fire was due to copper >> contamination in the fire? Oh... you're so stoooopid you didn't >> even know copper burns green. > nope, i never had 7 odd years of chemistry. in fact, i know absolutely > nothing, so you win. that was easy. Yeah, that was easy. Yay me. Stoooopid kook. LOL >>>>> ...or maybe anybody who thinks that putting a word in quotes might >>>>> signify "nothing". >>>> It might if you'd used your quotes "properly" in context, you "moron". >>>> LOL >>> you sure seem to be "happy". >> You sure seem to be "smart". LOL > why would i act smart? It's not for your lack of trying, I can assure you of that. LOL > you don't waste your time attacking people you think are smart. Ummm, kensi? Arfatzio? Petey John-John Ross? Craptain Neal Whorin'? Vince Lamb? Stooopid kook. LOL > by your own admission, you can only manage to grapple with stupid people. No, that was *your* admission, Stoooopid, when you were admitting you were stupid, as outlined in my .sig. LOL >>>>> ...or who doesn't understand what a chimney even is beyond "something >>>>> made out of bricks". >>>> You're dealing with people like Rocky and Chimpy on Usenet. >>> no i'm not. >> Ok, so you run from their "intellect". No shame in your admitting >> they're "smarter" and "saner" than you. > define: "dealing with" in regard to your usenet activity. i come here to > waste time while i wait for effects to process, something to finish > rendering, or compiling some C code, not to orchestrate some kind of > sandbox "king of the hill" exercise like you appear to have been invested > in for years and years. I don't try to be king of the hill, DildoRider. It's just that the best naturally prevail and retards like you get bootfucked into frothy meltdowns. LOL >>>> They don't understand much. You're not far ahead of them, DildoRider. >>>> You are, after all, a libtard. >>> can you name a few reasons to hate a liberal? >> 1) You're detached from reality. IOW, you're delusional. >> 2) You lie about pretty much everything to sustain your delusions. >> 3) You couldn't buy a clue if your life depended upon it. >> 4) When you're given free clue, you prove yourself clue-repellant. > only four? seems petty. Only four, but those four are the cornerstones of what's wrong with liberalism, and with you broken-brained libtards. Truth can be succinct, after all, and still do enough damage to fragile little psyches that it sends you into a bleatfarting foamfest. LOL >>>> Am I? Or am I tweaking a libtard goof because every tweak ends up with >>>> him doing his foot-stomping anal-retentive routine? >>> what you're doing is making an ass of yourself and demonstrating the >>> psyche of the common coward who hides behind a keyboard to spew >>> conservative 1% buttlicking bullshit. >> Nicely foot-stomped, DildoRider. It's not you're fault you're a >> low-rent uneducated delusional boner-huffing dildoriding libtard >> product of a public education. Blame your parents. You know, the ones >> you lied about and k'lamed were rich living in their shitty $154,977 >> hovel. > people don't get rich wasting money on expensive shit, fakey. you ought > to know that. Of course I know that. I also know people don't get rich paying too fucking much for a shitty half-a-house with little appreciation potential. LOL > you have 2 or three more generations of digging to do. free clue: one of > my direct relatives was a state senator and there are rumors that there > "may have" been some bootlegging going on during prohibition making a lot > of remote central PA farmers and police officers in those days quite > wealthy. better get to work! > > another free cloo: my birth surname is not my current surname. So you were adopted... and subsequently abandoned by your so-called "rich" family... and you think they'll just accept you back into the clan and give you a share of the pot o' gold. Or you're lying, and you're poor, and you're stupid enough to think anyone buys your lying bullshit after you got caught lying about your "rich" parents. LOL > that should keep you busy googling for a while... No, you're lying, just as you were lying about your parents being rich. It's what you do when you get especially butthurt. LOL >> If you were rich, you wouldn't have had to pay for 15 years on >> that college loan for the education you didn't get, College Dropout. > my parents are not from a generation that believes in spoiling children Your parents can't afford to spoil you. They're not rich. LOL > and i don't operate from a mindset that defers to rely on family to solve > all of my problems. Your parents probably wouldn't want to make the trip to pull those dildos out of you three times a day anyway, DildoAddict. They couldn't afford the gas. They're on fixed incomes. LOL > you wouldn't happen to know anybody that had their parents take care > of everything for them, do you? you seem to think that's how it works > for everybody, for some reason. just wondering where you're getting > your "data". >From some retard who's been blathering lies about his "rich" parents. LOL > speaking of data: how dumb does one have to be to think that the > statistically averaged numbers you see on some website are indicative what > happens in real life? i told you that those numbers were not correct. i > told you that my parents are both retired. your little stalkyStats are > just stabs in the dark - which fits your modus operandi quite well, i must > say. Wow, nice foamfart, DildoRider. Was it something I said that got you all upset? LOL >> And you wouldn't have to live in a shitty shanty half-a-house that's >> appreciated by a net total of $36 per month for the whole time you've >> owned it, as you bragged about how much it was "worth"... not that the >> property actually appreciated in value, it's price was merely >> increased by the rising real estate market... And that's $36 per month not factoring in such items as maintenance and upkeep... you're losing money big-time on that shitshack, even with the price appreciation. LOL > you're so dumb that you think that statistics on a website are more > important than someone's perceived quality of life. You could have at least bought an actual house instead of a half-a-house with a limited appreciation potential, Dumbshit. Is that the best you could afford? LOL >> a rising level in the toilet bowl lifts all turds, you know. Too bad >> it couldn't even keep up with inflation. > i bought it to live in, not to flip or give to my snot-nosed kid, genius. Said kid which you'll never have... you're gay. You've admitted it. LOL > i like a roof over my head where i can do whatever the hell i want without > shifty landlord or homeowner's association rules and i'm willing to pay > for it. And pay for it, and pay for it, and pay for it, and pay for it... there comes a point when you must realize you've made a bad choice... or perhaps not. You *are* pretty retarded. LOL > what was your first house like, fakey? something you wouldn't even want > to live in so you rented it out to some poor sap? You're comparing apples to oranges, DildoRider. I went out on my own when I was 18 and in a very short time I was financially set. You've been out on your own for what, 20 years now? And you're *still* in your "first house". How long are you gonna use the excuse of "I'm just starting out!"... until you retire? LOL >>>> I note they're pretty quiet lately. >>> maybe they gave up dealing with a sociopath hiding behind a remailer. >> The delivery method of truth isn't relevant. That it's truth they're >> running from is all that's relevant. You've done the same. > "troof"! LOL thanks for admitting that you're a troofTard. you're still > a sociopath and i expect that very soon we'll (TINW) see some very public > and undeniable evidence of that. "chickens coming home to roost" and such. Awww, your butthurt fanfic is so entertaining, DildoRider... you've obviously been deeply psychologically scarred by the truth that I promulgate. Most libtards are. Having the rug pulled out from under your entire kooky belief system tends to do that to you idiots. LOL You'd think by now you'd have learned to just shut your stupid fucking gob and quietly live your little libtard lie of a life so I wouldn't utterly conflagrate your entire kooky belief system by exposing it to the scorching light of reality... but libtards are retarded. LOL >>>> Even retards like that have to succumb to reality once it's >>>> driven home with a size 16 steel-toe boot. >>> you talk about your feet a lot, probably to distract from something >>> else. >> You seem to be obsessed about that "something else"... > i was talking about your tiny brain... Nicely backpedaled, DildoRider... except you've admitted *you* are the stupid one, not me. Remember, it's memorialized in my .sig. LOL > i guess we found out not only that i was 100% correct, but that > what you were distracting from wasn't your atrophied > conservative noggin. it was, indeed, "something else". You're at Gargles-level backpedaling, DildoRider. LOL >> to the point that you turn your "girlfriend" into a "strap-on dude" >> and make her "rectally ream" you, DildoRider. > magical dildos dancing in your head turning girls into dudes much? pretty > sure i get bonus points for proving that you think about your junk at the > same time that you are fantasizing my girlfriend turning into a man and > "rectally reaming" me. are you trying to slyly hit on me, klosetBoi? LOL > > sorry, i don't date insufferable oafs with 6 kids and hawt wives. :( Wow, that's some pretty serious projection you're doing, DildoRider. But I note you don't deny you make your "girlfriend" strap on a dildo and rectally ream you whenever you can't satisfy your cock addiction. LOL >>>> I mean, look at how much good it did your sanity, DildoRider. >>>> Barely a trace of swish in your blather, and you're talking about TIG >>>> welding and campfires just like a real man. > ^ there's another of those funny spots where it looks like you meant to > say something, but changed your mind. Or, it could be another of those funny spots where your broken little libtard brain is misfiring again, DildoRider. LOL > ...or perhaps your buggy quoting algorithm? Or perhaps your buggy libtard brain. LOL > it seems to be indicating that you intentionally put a carriage return there, > but most likely, your cut/paste from your newsreader to your little dizum > duckblind app is adding extra carriage returns for no reason. to > demonstrate how dumb that looks, i'll be adding an extra carriage return > after them all. ;) I'm not seeing them at all, so I don't know what you're bleating about... perhaps you've just gone so insane that you're seeing things, DildoRider. LOL >>> wow. the misogyny is getting a little thick, "big man". >> What does misogyny have to do with anything, DildoRider? Unless you're >> admitting you're a tranny. LOL > what do trannies have to do with anything besides your fixation on them > and your disgust at a man who would do such a horrible thing as "demote" > himself to the status of a woman (or maybe lower since your queerphobia > adds another layer of hate beyond plain-old hatred of femininity)? Fucksake, you've been driven to stupidity. Again. LOL <http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/misogyny> "a hatred of women" What does talking about TIG welding and camp fires have to do with women, unless you're admitting you prance around pretending you're a transexual woman, DildoRider? >>> if you were so great you'd likely not have to put others down. you're >>> nothing but a swole up infant. it's no wonder that gerg idolizes you. >> Awww, you're so butthurt, DildoRider. Why can't you refute > i came here to distract you from all of those other nasty ko0ks, that's > why. Uh huh... your inability to refute any of that truth that I've promulgated was because you intentionally decided to melt down instead? That seems likely, eh? LOL >> any of that >> truth that I've promulgated, which you've run away from? > all i see is you wasting your time and effort and actively denying that > you're wasting time and effort. I see you running away after I utterly demolished all your kooky libtard blather... shall we go over all that again and torment you a second time? LOL >>>> Yer welcome, DildoRider. >>> yeah, thanks for outing yourself as a sad little >>> lonely-in-a-crowded-room malcontent. i'm sorry i hadn't >>> mentioned it sooner. >> You're projecting, DildoRider. LOL > the truth hurts, does it? how many people are in the room that you are > currently in, fakey? (the man in the white scrubs doesn't count) The kids are in bed, they have a strict 8:30 PM bedtime because they're up early for morning calisthenics. So just the wife and I are laughing at you currently, DildoRider. LOL >>>>> ^^^ you dropped something... >>>> That's OK. Tr!pey Olde Bird Buggerer (aka Steve Hall) will be around >>>> to snuffle it up shortly. He loves that shit. >>> so you have a shit-eating snicker? >> If you consider Tr!pey Olde Bird Buggerer to be a "shit-eating >> snicker", that's your prerogative. > i don't know who that is. i was speaking of your shit-eating snicker. Ah, I see. So your speech impediment precluded your conveying your message clearly. LOL >>> you might want to brush your teeth. >> Yes, Steve, brush your teeth. > steve's not here man... </chong> Yeah, you might want to put the crack pipe down and back away from it, Cracky McCrackHead... that shit made you melt down hilariously before, and now you're at it again. I expect you'll be bleating hard in the wee hours again? Yeah, you will. <snicker> -- Robert M. Wolfe the Pittsburgh Pied Piper Of Penis (aka DildoRider, aka Teh Mop Jockey) 5907 Stanton Ave. Pittsburgh, PA DildoRider admits he's stoooopid: MID: <c65504c436778934b3e8a0fb022b7618@dizum.com> ================================================= >> it appears I've kicked your ass so hard it's >> damaged your brain, DildoRider. > then it appears that you like shooting fish in > barrels, intellectually lazy fuckhead that you are. Well, you've just admitted that intellectually kicking your ass is akin to shooting fish in a barrel... IOW, you've admitted that you're stoooopid. No un-ringing that bell. <snicker> ================================================= DildoRider admits he's "really stupid" (his words). LOL MID: <8a9faed11123abfaa1257fb33fb0c082@dizum.com> ================================================= > so what you're saying is that your targets for attack > have to be really stupid or else you can't manage? ================================================= DildoRider admits much more about himself: MID: <36c6802852caf4f712515dedb738e450@dizum.com> ================================================= "absolutely and completely retarded, insane, gay, ugly, smelly, toothless, dirt-poor, incontinent and possibly homeless" ================================================= This is a libtard's method of "winning", for fuck sake. <snicker>
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