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| From | Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> |
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| References | (2 earlier) <1bmjva9oh48ftbi97hv598lnduqbqrhj2p@4ax.com> <6ae8f989de62f733dd0568c7f5fa1bfd@dizum.com> <op.x43crnfwtm21m2@benson.localhost> <6428b55dad79068f352eae9c201769a6@dizum.com> <op.x46hi4f9tm21m2@benson.localhost> |
| Subject | Re: Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes |
| Message-ID | <1d42ddd5704e94ae474ba046db8ec2bb@dizum.com> (permalink) |
| Date | 2015-09-19 06:41 +0200 |
| Newsgroups | alt.astronomy, alt.conspiracy, alt.usenet.kooks, sci.physics |
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Cross-posted to 4 groups.
Time to spin the kooks up again. Melt, kooks, melt. <snicker>
Robert M. Wolfe the Pittsburgh Pied Piper Of Penis (aka DildoRider) of
5907 Stanton Ave., Pittsburgh, PA (aka Teh Mop Jockey), socked up as
root@127.0.0.1, in <news:op.x46hi4f9tm21m2@benson.localhost> did
thusly jump head first into the wood chipper again:
> On Fri, 18 Sep 2015 00:44:32 -0400, Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler
> Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> wrote:
>> Time to spin the kooks up again. Melt, kooks, melt. <snicker>
>>
>> Robert M. Wolfe the Pittsburgh Pied Piper Of Penis (aka DildoRider) of
>> 5907 Stanton Ave., Pittsburgh, PA (aka Teh Mop Jockey), socked up as
>> root@127.0.0.1, in <news:op.x43crnfwtm21m2@benson.localhost> did
>> thusly jump head first into the wood chipper again:
>>> On Thu, 17 Sep 2015 00:36:30 -0400, Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler
>>> Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> wrote:
>>>> Time to spin the kooks up again. Melt, kooks, melt. <snicker>
>>>>
>>>> Topaz, in <news:1bmjva9oh48ftbi97hv598lnduqbqrhj2p@4ax.com> did thusly
>>>> jump head first into the wood chipper again:
>>>>> On Tue, 15 Sep 2015 17:34:44 -0400, Sarah Ehrett <ninety7gt@cox.net>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> It didn't melt steel it WEAKENED IT.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It isn't rocket science to know that if you heat steel it WEAKENS it.
>>>>>> WEAKENED steel will fail. When it can no longer hold a load failure
>>>>>> occurs.
>>>>> For one thing that wouldn't quickly collapse the whole building. And a
>>>>> lot of steel did melt. This youtube video is absolute proof:
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h7S9bnd_pnY
>>>> I see no molten steel in that entire video. I see a large ball of what
>>>> was once molten metal, with no analysis of where it came from. Of
>>>> course, structural steel wasn't the only steel in the twin towers.
>>>> There was plenty of very low-grade steel in office furniture.
>>>>
>>>> Steel loses a significant amount of its strength just before it starts
>>>> to glow a dull red (approx.900 deg.F). We know the temperature reached
>>>> at least 950 F because the aircraft frames melted. 2219-T81 aircraft
>>>> grade aluminum melts at 950 F.
>>>>
>>>> Heated to a bright orange (nowhere near the melting point), steel
>>>> enters a "plastic" state. Exceptions are specialized steel alloys
>>>> which have outstanding heat tolerance, but are much too costly to
>>>> frame a building with.
>>>>
>>>> I find it strange that we have reports of "molten steel" (likely not
>>>> structural steel, but cheaper, lower grade steel in office furniture
>>>> and interior finish materials... imagine how many office chairs alone
>>>> there were, likely at least 250 per floor... and almost all of them
>>>> made of very low-grade steel... at just 5 pounds per chair or table,
>>>> that's half a ton of very low-grade steel per floor), yet no actual
>>>> pictures of same... not even any pictures of that "molten steel" being
>>>> pulled out of the ground. Plenty of pictures of incandescently hot
>>>> steel being pulled out of the ground... no molten steel.
>>>>
>>>> Whoopsie:
>>>> <http://www.skyscrapersafety.org/html/article_20040619.html>
>>>> 9/11 cops saw collapse coming
>>>> =========================================================
>>>> The World Trade Center towers showed telltale signs they were about to
>>>> collapse several minutes before each crumbled to the ground,
>>>> scientists probing the Sept. 11, 2001, disaster said yesterday.
>>>>
>>>> In the case of the north tower, police chopper pilots reported seeing
>>>> the warning signs - an inward bowing of the building facade - at least
>>>> eight minutes before it collapsed at 10:29 a.m.
>>>> =========================================================
>>>>
>>>> <http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=newsarchive&sid=aCuh.ATdfOXc&refer=top_world_news>
>>>> =========================================================
>>>> Federal engineering investigators studying the destruction of the
>>>> World Trade Center's twin towers on Sept. 11 said New York Police
>>>> Department aviation units reported an inward bowing of the buildings'
>>>> columns in the minutes before they collapsed, a signal they were about
>>>> to fall.
>>>>
>>>> ``No evidence has been found to suggest the information was
>>>> communicated to all emergency responders at the scene,'' said an
>>>> executive summary of a progress report by the National Institute of
>>>> Standards and Technology, which is conducting the study.
>>>>
>>>> Investigators also found evidence that the south tower, which fell 56
>>>> minutes after it was struck by terrorists in a hijacked commercial
>>>> jet, had less fire proofing than the north tower, which held up for
>>>> about double the time after it was hit.
>>>> =========================================================
>>>>
>>>> <http://www.debunking911.com/moltensteel.htm>
>>>> <http://www.debunking911.com/debris.jpg>
>>>> See the sagging floor beams in the picture above? Just as I said, the
>>>> floor spars sagged, ripped apart the viscoelastic dampers, which
>>>> removed the horizontal support for the outer truss frame. The truss
>>>> frame at the top-most mechanical room floor (where all the truss frame
>>>> sections were inexplicably joined at one floor... they were staggered
>>>> on every other floor to increase strength) bore the load of the
>>>> increased weight on the truss frame until the two 5/8" bolts joining
>>>> each truss frame section together broke. This left the entire truss
>>>> frame above that mechanical room floor disconnected, hanging off the
>>>> top-hat truss, which transferred all that weight to the central column
>>>> and magnified the buckling force upon the central column. The fire
>>>> heat-weakened the central column, which buckled, transferring some of
>>>> the weight back onto the truss frame and ripping even more of the
>>>> viscoelastic dampers. The truss frame collapsed at that mechanical
>>>> room floor (which can be seen in some of the videos immediately prior
>>>> to the whole-building collapse), and it collapsed slightly sideways
>>>> due to the hole left by the aircraft impact. The collapse of the truss
>>>> frame at the mechanical room floor triggered the cascading
>>>> whole-building collapse, and the angle at which the upper truss frame
>>>> collapsed dragged the building slightly off-center as it fell, leaving
>>>> behind the surviving staircase at the base of the building because it
>>>> was outside the 'fall shadow' of the building.
>>>>
>>>> That pretty much negates you kook's "controlled demolition" blather.
>>>>
>>>> You moron.
>>>>
>>>> <snicker>
>>> i've molten steel with as little as 220 volts plus some current.
>> You can melt steel with a Bic lighter. Get a steel scrubbing sponge
>> and a lighter and try it out. You'll also see tiny metal balls form,
>> just as was found at the WTC site... strange that some of the
>> insulation in the towers was rock wool, eh?
>>
>> <http://www.slg.jp/e/slag/product/rockwool.html>
>>
>> <snicker>
>>> i wonder
>>> how much stored kinetic energy in all those floors of carpets, wood,
>>> desks, paper, plastic, charred humans, and a little bit of 2 exploded
>>> planes had in it? has anybody ever wagered a guess?
>> 250 to 300 GigaJoules per tower, or a total of 138 MWh to 166 MWh. Or
>> approximately enough energy to fuel one person at 2000 kilocalories
>> per day for 196 years. IOW, a great fucking lot of energy. And that
>> doesn't even take into account the amount of heat gained from burning
>> material, that's just the potential energy of the building converting
>> to heat.
>>
>> http://www.debunking911.com/moltensteel.htm
>>
>> At 32,000 sq feet of tenant space per floor and at 4lbs per sq ft of
>> combustible material (at 5 lbs per sq ft NIST found that the fires
>> moved too slowly) for 110 floors (-6 floors for mechanical + 6 for
>> underground) is equal to 14 Million POUNDS of combustible material. Or
>> 7,000 TONS. Clearly a RESPECTABLE amount of burnable material per
>> TOWER. Thus the rubble pile had ~ 28 MILLION POUNDS of combustible
>> material not including what was in the Marriot hotel and its parking
>> garage.
>>
>> **BEGIN PROGRAM**
>>
>> # Demonstrates the kinetic energy of the WTC collapses, to debunk 9/11
>> conspiracies # http://www.geocities.com/debunking911/moltensteel.htm
>> #
>> #!/usr/bin/perl
>> #
>> # Variables for calculations
>> $m = 4285500; # mass of one floor (kg)
>> $mt = 0; # mass of falling section
>> $v1 = 0; # beginning velocity for the current step
>> $v2 = 0; # velocity at impact
>> $v3 = 0; # ending velocity for prior step $p = 0; # current momentum
>> $ke1 = 0; # kinetic energy at impact
>> $ke2 = 0; # kinetic energy after impact
>> $de = 0; # total energy dissipated so far $a = 9.80665; # acceleration
>> of gravity (constant) $t = 0; # cumulative time taken
>> $t1 = 0; # time taken for this step
>> $d = 3.8; # distance between floors (418m/110 stories) $mt = $fc*$m; #
>> initialize mass of falling section # # Calculations for WTC Tower One
>> $fc = 13; # floor count of falling section (13 floors for WTC One)
>> $rfc = 110 - $fc; # initialize remaining floor count of uncollapsed
>> floors print("Data for WTC Tower One\n"); print("\n"); while($rfc > 0)
>> { print("Data for story ", $rfc, " -\n");
>> $v1 = $v3; # starting velocity is ending for last step
>> $v2 = (($v1*2)+((2*$a)*$d))**0.5; # impact velocity for this step by
>> formula print("Impact velocity: ", $v2, "\n"); $p = $mt*$v2; #
>> momentum at impact print("Impulse delivered: ", $p, "\n");
>> $ke1 = ($mt*($v2**2))/2; # kinetic energy at impact print("Impact
>> kinetic energy: ", $ke1, "\n"); $fc++; # increment falling floor count
>> $mt = $fc*$m; # update mass of falling section
>> $v3 = $p/$mt; # new velocity
>> print("Velocity after impact: ", $v3, "\n");
>> $ke2 = ($mt*($v3**2))/2; # kinetic energy after impact
>> print("Remaining kinetic energy: ", $ke2, "\n"); $de += $ke1 - $ke2; #
>> add dissipated kinetic energy to total print("Kinetic energy
>> dissipated: ", $ke1 - $ke2, "\n");
>> $t1 = $d/(($v2 + $v1)/2); # time for this step by formula print("Time
>> spent collapsing: ", $t1, "\n"); $t += $t1; # add step time to running
>> total $rfc--; # decrement remaining floor count print("\n"); }
>> print("Overall WTC Tower One data -\n"); print("Total collapse time:
>> ", $t, "\n"); print("Total energy dissipated during the collapse: ",
>> $de, "\n"); print("Remaining kinetic energy at the end of the
>> collapse: ", $ke2, "\n"); print("\n"); # # Calculations for WTC Tower
>> Two $fc = 39; # floor count of falling section (39 floors for WTC Two)
>> $rfc = 110 - $fc; # initialize remaining floor count of uncollapsed
>> floors print("Data for WTC Tower Two\n"); print("\n"); while($rfc > 0)
>> { print("Data for story ", $rfc, " -\n");
>> $v1 = $v3; # starting velocity is ending for last step
>> $v2 = (($v1*2)+((2*$a)*$d))**0.5; # impact velocity for this step by
>> formula print("Impact velocity: ", $v2, "\n"); $p = $mt*$v2; #
>> momentum at impact print("Impulse delivered: ", $p, "\n");
>> $ke1 = ($mt*($v2**2))/2; # kinetic energy at impact print("Impact
>> kinetic energy: ", $ke1, "\n"); $fc++; # increment falling floor count
>> $mt = $fc*$m; # update mass of falling section
>> $v3 = $p/$mt; # new velocity
>> print("Velocity after impact: ", $v3, "\n");
>> $ke2 = ($mt*($v3**2))/2; # kinetic energy after impact
>> print("Remaining kinetic energy: ", $ke2, "\n"); $de += $ke1 - $ke2; #
>> add dissipated kinetic energy to total print("Kinetic energy
>> dissipated: ", $ke1 - $ke2, "\n");
>> $t1 = $d/(($v2 + $v1)/2); # time for this step by formula print("Time
>> spent collapsing: ", $t1, "\n"); $t += $t1; # add step time to running
>> total $rfc--; # decrement remaining floor count print("\n"); }
>> print("Overall WTC Tower Two data -\n"); print("Total collapse time:
>> ", $t, "\n"); print("Total energy dissipated during the collapse: ",
>> $de, "\n"); print("Remaining kinetic energy at the end of the
>> collapse: ", $ke2, "\n");
>>
>> **END PROGRAM**
> if someone needs to run this program to prove to themselves that a
> building can't collapse when 2 airliners slam into it, then i highly doubt
> they can a) manage to install perl and b) execute a perl script.
>
> HTH
Or, you can use an online Perl emulator, if running Perl is beyond
you. Nice tacit admission that running Perl is beyond you, BTW.
<snicker>
>>> also, has anybody here ever put a "chimney log" over a fire?
>> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5I4nYRIMIsA>
> that's kind of a mediocre one... i've gotten blue/green inner flames with
> a better sized fire and proper wood stacking underneath the chimney.
Swan Band radiation of the C2 radical from pyrolysis.
>>> the difference in pressure at the top and bottom of a chimney-like
>>> object in a fire seems to have some sort of "strange" effect on the rate of
>>> oxidation.
>> Not strange except to retards who don't understand that the faster a
>> fire gets oxygen,
> ...or maybe anybody who thinks that putting a word in quotes might signify
> "nothing".
It might if you'd used your quotes "properly" in context, you "moron".
LOL
> ...or who doesn't understand what a chimney even is beyond "something made
> out of bricks".
You're dealing with people like Rocky and Chimpy on Usenet. They don't
understand much. You're not far ahead of them, DildoRider. You are,
after all, a libtard.
<snicker>
>> the faster it burns. Thanks for admitting you're one
>> of those retards, DildoRider.
> again, either irony is lost on you or you are just being intentionally
> obtuse like a typical goof.
Am I? Or am I tweaking a libtard goof because every tweak ends up with
him doing his foot-stomping anal-retentive routine?
<snicker>
> back to your socialist-like *free* education of 911konspiracyK0oks...
> hahaha! ;)
I note they're pretty quiet lately. Even retards like that have to
succumb to reality once it's driven home with a size 16 steel-toe
boot. I mean, look at how much good it did your sanity, DildoRider.
Barely a trace of swish in your blather, and you're talking about TIG
welding and campfires just like a real man.
Yer welcome, DildoRider.
<snicker>
>>> hmm...
>> <snicker>
> ^^^ you dropped something...
That's OK. Tr!pey Olde Bird Buggerer (aka Steve Hall) will be around
to snuffle it up shortly. He loves that shit.
<snicker>
--
Robert M. Wolfe the Pittsburgh Pied Piper Of Penis
(aka DildoRider, aka Teh Mop Jockey)
5907 Stanton Ave.
Pittsburgh, PA
DildoRider admits he's stoooopid:
MID: <c65504c436778934b3e8a0fb022b7618@dizum.com>
=================================================
>> it appears I've kicked your ass so hard it's
>> damaged your brain, DildoRider.
> then it appears that you like shooting fish in
> barrels, intellectually lazy fuckhead that you are.
Well, you've just admitted that intellectually kicking your ass is
akin to shooting fish in a barrel... IOW, you've admitted that you're
stoooopid. No un-ringing that bell.
<snicker>
=================================================
DildoRider admits he's "really stupid" (his words). LOL
MID: <8a9faed11123abfaa1257fb33fb0c082@dizum.com>
=================================================
> so what you're saying is that your targets for attack
> have to be really stupid or else you can't manage?
=================================================
DildoRider admits much more about himself:
MID: <36c6802852caf4f712515dedb738e450@dizum.com>
=================================================
"absolutely and completely retarded, insane, gay, ugly, smelly,
toothless, dirt-poor, incontinent and possibly homeless"
=================================================
This is a libtard's method of "winning", for fuck sake.
<snicker>
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Re: Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes Topaz <mars1933@hotmail.com> - 2015-09-10 15:44 -0500
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Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes Sarah Ehrett <ninety7gt@cox.net> - 2015-09-17 00:23 -0400
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Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes "\"Fakey's\" dogwhistle holder living at 5907 Stanton Ave., Pittsburgh, PA (aka Teh Mop Jockey), socked up as 5907 Stanton Avenue, Pittsburgh, PA 15206-2117" <root@127.0.0.1> - 2015-09-17 01:13 -0400
Re: Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes Topaz <mars1933@hotmail.com> - 2015-09-17 15:45 -0500
Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes "Checkmate, DoW #1" <Lunatic.Fringe@The.Edge> - 2015-09-16 16:48 -0700
Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes "Sir Gregory Hall, Esq." <greghall@yacht_master.fake> - 2015-09-16 21:43 -0400
Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes "Checkmate, DoW #1" <Lunatic.Fringe@The.Edge> - 2015-09-16 21:50 -0700
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Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes Topaz <mars1933@hotmail.com> - 2015-09-22 15:25 -0500
Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes "Checkmate, DoW #1" <Lunatic.Fringe@The.Edge> - 2015-09-16 14:13 -0700
Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes Sarah Ehrett <ninety7gt@cox.net> - 2015-09-16 13:25 -0400
Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-09-16 17:56 +0000
Re: Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes Topaz <mars1933@hotmail.com> - 2015-09-16 16:19 -0500
Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes "Sir Gregory Hall, Esq. DoW #10" <greghall@yacht_master.fake> - 2015-09-16 17:34 -0400
Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes "Checkmate, DoW #1" <Lunatic.Fringe@The.Edge> - 2015-09-16 17:00 -0700
Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes "%" <persent@gmail.com> - 2015-09-16 17:09 -0700
Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes "Checkmate, DoW #1" <Lunatic.Fringe@The.Edge> - 2015-09-16 21:40 -0700
Re: Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes Topaz <mars1933@hotmail.com> - 2015-09-17 16:24 -0500
Re: Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes BDK <Control@Worldcontrol.com> - 2015-09-18 10:12 -0400
Re: Re: Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes Topaz <mars1933@hotmail.com> - 2015-09-18 17:35 -0500
Re: Re: Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes BDK <Control@Worldcontrol.com> - 2015-09-20 09:47 -0400
Re: Re: Re: Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes Topaz <mars1933@hotmail.com> - 2015-09-21 15:44 -0500
Re: Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes Arc Michael <abookoflife@yahoo.com> - 2015-09-22 19:39 -0700
Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes Saul Levy <saullevy1@cox.net> - 2015-09-24 19:32 -0700
Re: Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes Topaz <mars1933@hotmail.com> - 2015-09-17 16:20 -0500
Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2015-09-17 21:06 -0500
Re: Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes Topaz <mars1933@hotmail.com> - 2015-09-18 17:36 -0500
Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2015-09-19 03:41 -0500
Re: Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes Topaz <mars1933@hotmail.com> - 2015-09-19 04:11 -0500
Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2015-09-19 05:09 -0500
Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes "Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> - 2015-09-19 10:47 -0500
Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes Sarah Ehrett <ninety7gt@cox.net> - 2015-09-19 12:20 -0400
Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2015-09-19 11:43 -0500
Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes Sarah Ehrett <ninety7gt@cox.net> - 2015-09-19 21:15 -0400
Re: Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes Topaz <mars1933@hotmail.com> - 2015-09-20 04:09 -0500
Re: Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes "Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> - 2015-09-20 17:13 -0500
Re: 9/11/01 - There are no brains in Rocky's head jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-09-20 22:25 +0000
Re: Re: 9/11/01 - There are no brains in Rocky's head Topaz <mars1933@hotmail.com> - 2015-09-21 15:48 -0500
Re: Re: 9/11/01 - There are no brains in Rocky's head Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> - 2015-09-22 07:02 +0200
Re: Re: Re: 9/11/01 - There are no brains in Rocky's head Topaz <mars1933@hotmail.com> - 2015-09-22 15:29 -0500
Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes Sarah Ehrett <ninety7gt@cox.net> - 2015-09-20 18:49 -0400
Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes "Bast" <fakename@nomail.invalid> - 2015-09-21 00:02 -0400
Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes Sarah Ehrett <ninety7gt@cox.net> - 2015-09-21 02:27 -0400
Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes "Bast" <fakename@nomail.invalid> - 2015-09-21 03:04 -0400
Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes Sarah Ehrett <ninety7gt@cox.net> - 2015-09-22 14:18 -0400
Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes "Bast" <fakename@nomail.invalid> - 2015-09-22 21:41 -0400
Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes Sarah Ehrett <ninety7gt@cox.net> - 2015-09-23 00:57 -0400
Re: Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes Topaz <mars1933@hotmail.com> - 2015-09-23 15:17 -0500
Re: Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes "Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> - 2015-09-23 15:59 -0500
Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes "Bast" <fakename@nomail.invalid> - 2015-09-24 06:22 -0400
Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes "Bast" <fakename@nomail.invalid> - 2015-09-24 06:40 -0400
Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes Sarah Ehrett <ninety7gt@cox.net> - 2015-09-24 13:06 -0400
Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes "Bast" <fakename@nomail.invalid> - 2015-09-24 16:59 -0400
Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes Sarah Ehrett <ninety7gt@cox.net> - 2015-09-24 21:48 -0400
Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2015-09-25 04:17 -0500
Re: Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes Topaz <mars1933@hotmail.com> - 2015-09-24 16:03 -0500
Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes "Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> - 2015-09-23 07:58 -0500
Re: Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes Topaz <mars1933@hotmail.com> - 2015-09-21 17:30 -0500
Re: Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes "Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> - 2015-09-21 17:58 -0500
Re: Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes "Bast" <fakename@nomail.invalid> - 2015-09-22 05:23 -0400
Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2015-09-22 04:53 -0500
Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2015-09-22 04:53 -0500
Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes "Bast" <fakename@nomail.invalid> - 2015-09-22 13:38 -0400
Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2015-09-23 03:36 -0500
Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes Sarah Ehrett <ninety7gt@cox.net> - 2015-09-23 14:05 -0400
Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes "Bast" <fakename@nomail.invalid> - 2015-09-24 06:48 -0400
Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes BDK <Control@Worldcontrol.com> - 2015-09-24 09:41 -0400
Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes Sarah Ehrett <ninety7gt@cox.net> - 2015-09-24 13:08 -0400
Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes "Bast" <fakename@nomail.invalid> - 2015-09-24 17:13 -0400
Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes Sarah Ehrett <ninety7gt@cox.net> - 2015-09-24 21:52 -0400
Re: Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes Topaz <mars1933@hotmail.com> - 2015-09-25 15:46 -0500
Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2015-09-25 04:17 -0500
Re: Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes Topaz <mars1933@hotmail.com> - 2015-09-24 16:14 -0500
Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2015-09-25 04:17 -0500
Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes "Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> - 2015-09-23 08:24 -0500
Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes "Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> - 2015-09-21 15:50 -0500
Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2015-09-19 11:32 -0500
Re: Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes Topaz <mars1933@hotmail.com> - 2015-09-20 04:06 -0500
Re: Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes "Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> - 2015-09-20 14:53 -0500
Re: Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes "Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> - 2015-09-20 18:23 -0500
Re: Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes "Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> - 2015-09-21 07:17 -0500
Re: Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes "Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> - 2015-09-21 16:07 -0500
Re: Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes "Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> - 2015-09-21 16:42 -0500
Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes "Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> - 2015-09-20 17:22 -0500
Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes "Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> - 2015-09-21 05:42 -0500
Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes "Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> - 2015-09-19 11:24 -0500
Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2015-09-19 11:45 -0500
Re: Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes Topaz <mars1933@hotmail.com> - 2015-09-17 16:15 -0500
Re: Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> - 2015-09-18 05:59 +0200
Re: Re: Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes Topaz <mars1933@hotmail.com> - 2015-09-18 17:38 -0500
Re: Re: Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> - 2015-09-19 07:02 +0200
Re: Re: Re: Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes Topaz <mars1933@hotmail.com> - 2015-09-19 04:13 -0500
Re: Re: Re: Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> - 2015-09-19 21:26 +0200
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes Topaz <mars1933@hotmail.com> - 2015-09-20 04:13 -0500
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> - 2015-09-20 21:31 +0200
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes Topaz <mars1933@hotmail.com> - 2015-09-21 17:31 -0500
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> - 2015-09-22 07:57 +0200
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes Topaz <mars1933@hotmail.com> - 2015-09-22 16:01 -0500
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes "Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> - 2015-09-22 16:19 -0500
Re: Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes Topaz <mars1933@hotmail.com> - 2015-09-17 16:11 -0500
Re: Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes Topaz <mars1933@hotmail.com> - 2015-09-16 16:15 -0500
Re: Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> - 2015-09-17 06:36 +0200
Re: Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes "\"Fakey's\" dogwhistle holder living at 5907 Stanton Ave., Pittsburgh, PA (aka Teh Mop Jockey), socked up as 5907 Stanton Avenue, Pittsburgh, PA 15206-2117" <root@127.0.0.1> - 2015-09-17 01:12 -0400
Re: Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> - 2015-09-18 06:44 +0200
Re: Re: Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes Topaz <mars1933@hotmail.com> - 2015-09-18 17:39 -0500
Re: Re: Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> - 2015-09-19 06:31 +0200
Re: Re: Re: Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes Topaz <mars1933@hotmail.com> - 2015-09-19 04:15 -0500
Re: Re: Re: Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> - 2015-09-19 22:36 +0200
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes Topaz <mars1933@hotmail.com> - 2015-09-20 04:14 -0500
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> - 2015-09-20 20:04 +0200
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes Topaz <mars1933@hotmail.com> - 2015-09-21 17:41 -0500
Re: Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> - 2015-09-19 06:41 +0200
Re: Re: Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes Topaz <mars1933@hotmail.com> - 2015-09-19 04:17 -0500
Re: Re: Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> - 2015-09-19 22:11 +0200
Re: Re: Re: Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes Topaz <mars1933@hotmail.com> - 2015-09-20 04:14 -0500
Re: Re: Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes "Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> - 2015-09-21 13:07 -0500
Re: Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> - 2015-09-21 18:25 +0200
Re: Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes "\"Fakey's\" dogwhistle holder living at 5907 Stanton Ave., Pittsburgh, PA (aka Teh Mop Jockey), socked up as 5907 Stanton Avenue, Pittsburgh, PA 15206-2117" <root@127.0.0.1> - 2015-09-21 20:27 -0400
Re: Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> - 2015-09-22 07:36 +0200
Re: Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes "\"Fakey's\" dogwhistle holder living at 5907 Stanton Ave., Pittsburgh, PA (aka Teh Mop Jockey), socked up as 5907 Stanton Avenue, Pittsburgh, PA 15206-2117" <root@127.0.0.1> - 2015-09-22 10:28 -0400
Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes snipe@spambin.fsnet.co.uk (Sn!pe, DoW #2) - 2015-09-22 17:47 +0100
9/11/01 - There were no planes, Pt. 2 Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> - 2015-09-23 05:27 +0200
9/11/01 - There were no planes, Pt. 1 Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> - 2015-09-23 06:09 +0200
Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes, Pt. 1 "\"Fakey's\" dogwhistle holder living at 5907 Stanton Ave., Pittsburgh, PA (aka Teh Mop Jockey), socked up as 5907 Stanton Avenue, Pittsburgh, PA 15206-2117" <root@127.0.0.1> - 2015-09-23 20:22 -0400
Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes, Pt. 1b Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> - 2015-09-24 06:53 +0200
Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes, Pt. 1b "\"Fakey's\" dogwhistle holder living at 5907 Stanton Ave., Pittsburgh, PA (aka Teh Mop Jockey), socked up as 5907 Stanton Avenue, Pittsburgh, PA 15206-2117" <root@127.0.0.1> - 2015-09-24 01:49 -0400
Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes, Pt. 1b Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> - 2015-09-25 07:33 +0200
Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes, Pt. 1a Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> - 2015-09-24 06:59 +0200
Re: Re: Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes Topaz <mars1933@hotmail.com> - 2015-09-17 16:27 -0500
Re: Re: Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes "\"Fakey's\" dogwhistle holder living at 5907 Stanton Ave., Pittsburgh, PA (aka Teh Mop Jockey), socked up as 5907 Stanton Avenue, Pittsburgh, PA 15206-2117" <root@127.0.0.1> - 2015-09-17 17:38 -0400
Re: Re: Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> - 2015-09-18 05:59 +0200
Re: Re: Re: Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes Topaz <mars1933@hotmail.com> - 2015-09-18 17:42 -0500
Re: Re: Re: Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> - 2015-09-19 06:36 +0200
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes Topaz <mars1933@hotmail.com> - 2015-09-19 04:19 -0500
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> - 2015-09-15 04:18 +0200
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes Topaz <mars1933@hotmail.com> - 2015-09-15 15:55 -0500
9/11/01 - There were no planes Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> - 2015-09-16 07:37 +0200
Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes Topaz <mars1933@hotmail.com> - 2015-09-16 16:42 -0500
Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes "Sir Gregory Hall, Esq." <greghall@yacht_master.fake> - 2015-09-16 17:46 -0400
Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes "Checkmate, DoW #1" <Lunatic.Fringe@The.Edge> - 2015-09-16 21:06 -0700
Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes "\"Fakey's\" dogwhistle holder living at 5907 Stanton Ave., Pittsburgh, PA (aka Teh Mop Jockey), socked up as 5907 Stanton Avenue, Pittsburgh, PA 15206-2117" <root@127.0.0.1> - 2015-09-17 00:30 -0400
Re: Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes Topaz <mars1933@hotmail.com> - 2015-09-17 16:38 -0500
Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes "Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> - 2015-09-16 17:59 -0500
Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> - 2015-09-17 07:11 +0200
Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes "Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> - 2015-09-14 00:05 -0500
Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> - 2015-09-14 17:06 +0200
Re: Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes Topaz <mars1933@hotmail.com> - 2015-09-14 15:57 -0500
Re: Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes "Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> - 2015-09-14 16:31 -0500
Re: Re: Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes Topaz <mars1933@hotmail.com> - 2015-09-15 16:06 -0500
Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes gilber34 <invalid@invalid.com> - 2015-09-16 12:09 -0500
Re: Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes Topaz <mars1933@hotmail.com> - 2015-09-16 16:47 -0500
Re: 9/11/01 - There were no planes Arc Michael <abookoflife@yahoo.com> - 2015-09-11 12:15 -0700
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