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  Hawking radiation is corpuscular Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2016-06-11 19:56 -0500
    Hawking radiation is corpuscular john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-06-11 19:47 -0700
      Re: Hawking radiation is corpuscular Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-06-11 23:13 -0500
        units of the secondpower of the speed of light noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2016-06-12 13:44 -0700
    Re: Hawking radiation is corpuscular Double-A <double-a3@hush.com> - 2016-06-12 13:14 -0700
      Re: Hawking radiation is corpuscular john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-06-12 15:08 -0700
      Re: Hawking radiation is corpuscular Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2016-06-12 17:24 -0500
        Re: Hawking radiation is corpuscular john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-06-12 15:50 -0700
    Re: Hawking radiation is corpuscular Yousuf Khan <bbbl67@spammenot.yahoo.com> - 2016-06-16 16:57 -0400
    Re: Hawking radiation is corpuscular "nuny@bid.nes" <Alien8752@gmail.com> - 2016-06-16 16:56 -0700
      Re: Hawking radiation is corpuscular Yousuf Khan <bbbl67@spammenot.yahoo.com> - 2016-06-20 01:44 -0400
        Re: Hawking radiation is corpuscular "nuny@bid.nes" <Alien8752@gmail.com> - 2016-06-20 01:02 -0700
          Re: Hawking radiation is corpuscular Yousuf Khan <bbbl67@spammenot.yahoo.com> - 2016-06-30 01:58 -0400
            Re: Hawking radiation is corpuscular noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2016-06-30 20:04 -0700
        Re: Hawking radiation is corpuscular Double-A <double-a3@hush.com> - 2016-06-20 12:11 -0700
          Re: Hawking radiation is corpuscular john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-06-20 12:20 -0700
            Re: Hawking radiation is corpuscular moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-06-20 19:46 +0000
            Re: Hawking radiation is corpuscular Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-06-20 15:56 -0500
              Re: Hawking radiation is corpuscular john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-06-20 15:19 -0700
                Re: Hawking radiation is corpuscular Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-06-21 08:37 -0500
                  Re: Hawking radiation is corpuscular john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-06-21 06:46 -0700
                    Re: Hawking radiation is corpuscular Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-06-21 08:58 -0500
                      Re: Hawking radiation is corpuscular john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-06-21 07:14 -0700
                        Re: Hawking radiation is corpuscular Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-06-21 09:23 -0500
                    Re: Hawking radiation is corpuscular moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-06-21 14:57 +0000
                      Re: Hawking radiation is corpuscular john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-06-21 08:28 -0700
                        Re: Hawking radiation is corpuscular moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-06-21 15:54 +0000
                        Re: Hawking radiation is corpuscular Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-06-21 11:38 -0500
                        Re: Hawking radiation is corpuscular moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-06-21 17:21 +0000
                          Re: Hawking radiation is corpuscular john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-06-21 10:58 -0700
                            Re: Hawking radiation is corpuscular Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-06-21 13:26 -0500
                              Re: Hawking radiation is corpuscular john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-06-21 11:38 -0700
                                Re: Hawking radiation is corpuscular Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-06-21 13:58 -0500
                                  Re: Hawking radiation is corpuscular john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-06-21 12:05 -0700
                                    Re: Hawking radiation is corpuscular Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-06-21 14:19 -0500
                            Re: Hawking radiation is corpuscular moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-06-21 20:29 +0000
                              Re: Hawking radiation is corpuscular noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2016-06-21 14:23 -0700
        Re: Hawking radiation is corpuscular "reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2016-06-20 15:55 -0700
          Re: Hawking radiation is corpuscular john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-06-20 16:22 -0700
            Re: Hawking radiation is corpuscular noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2016-06-20 18:27 -0700
            Re: Hawking radiation is corpuscular "reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2016-06-21 17:24 -0700

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#585992

Why are there still people dying
of heart disease if it can be
cured by diet, Odd?
Why are there still people eating red meat
when it has been declared a class I carcinogen?
Why do you, Odd? You don't believe
scientific studies?

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#585994

On 6/21/2016 8:46 AM, john wrote:
> Why are there still people dying
> of heart disease if it can be
> cured by diet, Odd?

I don't believe it can be. The risk of heart disease can be lowered 
through diet, and a better diet can help forestall the re-occurrence of 
heart disease after treatment, but I don't think heart disease is 
curable by diet.

Nor do I see any papers saying that ALS can be cured by diet. I see a 
number of people saying that they prolonged their useful life by using 
high-fat diets and paleo diets while suffering from ALS, but nothing 
about cures. Notice that the diet recommended for ALS is a ketogenic 
one, which is decidedly nonvegan with high-fat milk products like butter 
and cream.

> Why are there still people eating red meat
> when it has been declared a class I carcinogen?
> Why do you, Odd? You don't believe
> scientific studies?




-- 
Odd Bodkin --- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#585996

Odd
Did you read Dr Esselstyn?
You don't believe that he has
cured everyone that sticks to
his diet?
Thousands of people??

It's just a mental block, Odd.
With you, it just takes a
slight unevenness in the floor!!
(Just kidding.)

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#585997

On 6/21/2016 9:14 AM, john wrote:
> Odd
> Did you read Dr Esselstyn?

Yes, I've seen his promotional materials.
Have you read anything about his diet other than what he's produced?
"Advocates of evidence-based medicine have criticized the promotion of 
these diets as claiming health benefits beyond what the evidence 
supports, and that attention to exercise and other lifestyle factors 
must be considered along with diet."

> You don't believe that he has
> cured everyone that sticks to
> his diet?
> Thousands of people??
>
> It's just a mental block, Odd.
> With you, it just takes a
> slight unevenness in the floor!!
> (Just kidding.)
>


-- 
Odd Bodkin --- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#585999

john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> writes:

>Why are there still people dying
>of heart disease if it can be
>cured by diet, Odd?
>Why are there still people eating red meat
>when it has been declared a class I carcinogen?
>Why do you, Odd? You don't believe
>scientific studies?

So not only are you a physics k00k, you're a medical quack as well. No diet
can help those poor people with ALS who have neurons dying likely because of
some genetic defect.  Usually they only have a couple of years from first
symptoms. Hawking is an exception.  Lou Gehrig lasted a little over two
years from the time of his "Luckiest Man on Earth" speech at Yankee Stadium.
I have NEVER heard of anyone with ALS "getting out of their chair". Ever.

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#586003

Michael
Dead neurons are dead neurons.
Paras don't ever get out of their
chair, either.
Pesticides and other poisons from
Big Pharma are everywhere.
There is a special place for
people that make poison, when they die,
I am sure.

So, you think my advice to stop putting
poison in your body is bad advice?

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#586009

john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> writes:

>So, you think my advice to stop putting
>poison in your body is bad advice?

In your case, I would like more details.  You say don't put poisons in your
body.  At first glance that statement is screamingly obvious. But what
explains all your f'ed up posts here?  You seem unable to follow simple
logic.  What causes that?  Is it due to poisons you put in your body?  
Poisons from "Little Pharma", or does it have something to do with veganism?

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#586019

On 6/21/2016 10:28 AM, john wrote:
> Michael
> Dead neurons are dead neurons.
> Paras don't ever get out of their
> chair, either.

Then why did you say you could get Hawking out of his chair by 
controlling his diet?

> Pesticides and other poisons from
> Big Pharma are everywhere.
> There is a special place for
> people that make poison, when they die,
> I am sure.
>
> So, you think my advice to stop putting
> poison in your body is bad advice?
>


-- 
Odd Bodkin --- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#586029

On 6/21/2016 10:28 AM, john wrote:
> Michael
> Dead neurons are dead neurons.
> Paras don't ever get out of their
> chair, either.

Make up your mind.  Either:

1: You can get Hawking out of his chair if only you could feed him a vegan
diet;

or 2: Dead neurons are dead neurons. 

Which one?

(Hawking probably cannot swallow, his diet is certainly extremely tightly
controlled)

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#586033

Hawking is probably on an Ensure
diet by now- plant and whey.
Since the whey has no complex
animal fats, he'll be arrested.

Do neurons regrow?
"For almost one hundred years, it has been a mantra of biology - brain cells do not regenerate. In a startling discovery made in the late 1990s, researchers at Princeton University found that new neurons were continually being added to the brains of adult monkeys. The neurons were added to the cerebral cortex of the brain." from 
http://biology.about.com/od/Brain/p/Regeneration-Of-Brain-Cells.htm

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#586039

On 6/21/2016 12:58 PM, john wrote:
> Hawking is probably on an Ensure
> diet by now- plant and whey.
> Since the whey has no complex
> animal fats, he'll be arrested.
>
> Do neurons regrow?
> "For almost one hundred years, it has been a mantra of biology - brain cells
> do not regenerate. In a startling discovery made in the late 1990s, researchers
> at Princeton University found that new neurons were continually being added to
> the brains of adult monkeys. The neurons were added to the cerebral cortex of
> the brain." from
> http://biology.about.com/od/Brain/p/Regeneration-Of-Brain-Cells.htm
>

John, you have waffled back and forth all day on this now.
You've said you can cure ALS by diet and would be able to get Hawking 
out of his chair.
Then you've said dead neurons are dead neurons and there's no recovery.
Then you've said that new neurons can be grown.

Maybe if you settled on what you wanted to say before you said it.....

By the way, how Hawking is fed can be looked up, and it's not an Ensure 
diet. But then again, maybe you don't care to look things up before 
opening your yap about things you know little to nothing about.


-- 
Odd Bodkin --- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#586040

Odd
I took care of quads, MS, Alzies, 
"brain dead", for many years.
The feed, if not Ensure, will be
something very similar- it sounds
like you know what it is- but I'm
sure you won't enlighten.

Curing with diet is something
Modern Medicine doesn't do-
they are too busy getting free
stays in Hawaii to push the latest
Big Zpharma poison

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#586042

On 6/21/2016 1:38 PM, john wrote:
> Odd
> I took care of quads, MS, Alzies,
> "brain dead", for many years.
> The feed, if not Ensure, will be
> something very similar- it sounds
> like you know what it is- but I'm
> sure you won't enlighten.

I'm frankly astounded by your profound inability to enlighten yourself 
by googling "how does hawking eat". I can't tell whether this is due to 
incompetence or debilitating laziness.

Yes, I know what it is, and it took me seven seconds to find out.

>
> Curing with diet is something
> Modern Medicine doesn't do-

That's a rather broad statement. I have family and friends who have been 
treated by doctors for early-stage diabetes and high cholesterol with 
diet plans. This doesn't mean that diet cures everything from shingles 
to cancer, though, does it?

I'm all for avoiding poisons. I just don't think that avoiding ingesting 
poisons ensures a disease-free life, and I think that anyone who does 
believe that is an idiot.

> they are too busy getting free
> stays in Hawaii to push the latest
> Big Zpharma poison
>


-- 
Odd Bodkin --- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#586043

Odd
Knew you wouldn't enlighten
Not in your nature

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#586046

On 6/21/2016 2:05 PM, john wrote:
> Odd
> Knew you wouldn't enlighten
> Not in your nature
>

It is certainly not in my nature to "enlighten" someone with the results 
of a search anyone can do in 7 seconds. That would be indulging the 
profoundly lazy or the profoundly incompetent, and I have a deep-seated 
antipathy to either kind of indulgence.

So what's your problem, John?

-- 
Odd Bodkin --- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#586059

john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> writes:

>Do neurons regrow?
>"For almost one hundred years, it has been a mantra of biology - brain cells
>do not regenerate. In a startling discovery made in the late 1990s, 
>researchers at Princeton University found that new neurons were 
>continually being added to the brains of adult monkeys. The neurons were 
>added to the cerebral cortex of the brain."

Yes, that science you hate so much is making progress.  Perhaps this hated
science can help sufferers of ALS some day, or at least halt its progress.

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#586072

ask the chimp, please.  anyway,
it is the idea that gravity is the only longrage force, although
this is probably totally belied by plasma physics (r.i.p,
Johannes Alfven

> >researchers at Princeton University found that new neurons were 
> >continually being added to the brains of adult monkeys. The neurons were 
> >added to the cerebral cortex of the brain."
> 
> Yes, that science you hate so much is making progress.  Perhaps this hated
> science can help sufferers of ALS some day, or at least halt its progress.

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#585894

On Sunday, June 19, 2016 at 10:44:12 PM UTC-7, Yousuf Khan wrote:
> On 16/06/2016 7:56 PM, nuny@bid.nes wrote:
> >    I'm still waiting for a cite about the distance from an event horizon where Hawking radiation appears.
> 
> Should it be just 1 Planck Length above the event horizon?
> 
> 	Yousuf Khan

Gravity's BH force is creating space to boil as far out from its event horizon as 2200 miles.Particle pair's split,and one flings free the other falls in.In reality this effect was added to my "Twin Particle Theory"about 5 years ago and posted here. Hawking would like it.He should get in touch with me. TreBert I will do a talk on this at U 0 Irvine if I have time.

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#585898

Reber, you're full of shit, also.
A black hole is simply a
VORTEX in the fabric of Space, which,
for OUR matter, is ALL the smaller fractal-atoms.

Hawking was never right- even for a 'brief'
moment.

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#585921

that is just Einsteinmania,
the reification of the ideal that gravity is ... hm

> VORTEX in the fabric of Space, which,
> for OUR matter, is ALL the smaller fractal-atoms.
> 
> Hawking was never right- even for a 'brief'
> moment.

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