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Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC.

Started byFabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain>
First post2015-11-09 02:20 +0000
Last post2015-11-10 15:58 +0000
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  Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-09 02:20 +0000
    Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-11-08 20:25 -0600
      Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-09 02:43 +0000
        Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-11-08 20:54 -0600
          Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2015-11-09 09:20 -0800
            Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-11-09 12:58 -0600
              Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2015-11-09 13:23 -0800
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. "Herp Derpington" <invali@example.com> - 2015-11-09 19:42 -0800
                  Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2015-11-10 05:36 -0800
      Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-09 02:46 +0000
        Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. benj <none@gmail.com> - 2015-11-09 03:21 -0500
          Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-09 18:44 +0000
            Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-11-09 17:12 -0600
              Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-09 23:35 +0000
            Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. benj <none@gmail.com> - 2015-11-09 20:22 -0500
              Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-10 03:51 +0000
    Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-08 20:02 -0700
      Circus Alert.. Don't take the bait Fabian Big Fish in a Small Crotch <bigfishinasmallcrotch@myself.com> - 2015-11-08 22:11 -0500
      Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-11-08 21:12 -0600
      Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-09 04:22 +0000
        Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-08 21:50 -0700
          Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-09 05:13 +0000
            Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-08 22:38 -0700
            Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2015-11-16 18:59 +0000
        Plenty of non-idiots use Windows. Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> - 2015-11-08 21:30 -0800
          Re: Plenty of non-idiots use Windows. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-09 06:18 +0000
            Re: Plenty of non-idiots use Windows. Desk Rabbit <me@example.com> - 2015-11-09 12:43 +0000
            Re: Plenty of non-idiots use Windows. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-09 12:09 -0700
            Re: Plenty of non-idiots use Windows. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-09 13:03 -0700
            Re: Plenty of non-idiots use Windows. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-11-09 20:26 +0000
              Re: Plenty of non-idiots use Windows. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-09 18:27 -0700
          Re: Plenty of non-idiots use Windows. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-09 06:31 +0000
            Fabian Russell is disabled. Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> - 2015-11-08 23:12 -0800
            Re: Plenty of non-idiots use Windows. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-09 13:03 -0700
        Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. benj <none@gmail.com> - 2015-11-09 03:12 -0500
          Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-09 13:04 -0700
        Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Desk Rabbit <me@example.com> - 2015-11-09 12:39 +0000
        Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-09 13:01 -0700
          Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-11-09 20:04 +0000
            Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2015-11-09 15:18 -0500
              Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-09 21:01 +0000
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2015-11-09 16:08 -0500
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-09 18:35 -0700
              Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-09 13:54 -0700
            Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-09 20:54 +0000
              Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-11-09 21:13 +0000
              Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-09 17:17 -0500
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-11-09 23:24 +0100
                  Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-09 17:36 -0500
                  Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-09 18:37 -0700
            Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-09 18:32 -0700
          Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-09 13:04 -0700
            Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-09 18:30 -0700
              Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-09 18:44 -0700
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-10 03:58 +0000
                  Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-09 21:38 -0700
                  Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-10 08:18 -0500
                    Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-10 15:15 +0000
                      Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-10 10:49 -0500
                  Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-10 12:25 -0700
                    Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-10 12:45 -0700
                      Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-10 22:30 +0000
                        Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2015-11-10 17:37 -0500
                        Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-10 18:04 -0700
                          Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-11 01:30 +0000
                            Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-10 18:59 -0700
                              Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-11 03:15 +0000
                                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-11-11 07:22 +0000
                                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-12 10:20 -0700
                                  Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-12 21:32 +0000
                                    Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-12 14:51 -0700
                                      Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-12 22:13 +0000
                                        Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-11-12 23:17 +0100
                                          Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-12 15:28 -0700
                                          Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-12 22:38 +0000
                                            Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-12 18:40 -0500
                                          Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-11-12 23:24 +0000
                                            Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-13 00:33 +0000
                                              Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Desk Rabbit <me@example.com> - 2015-11-13 10:57 +0000
                                                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-11-13 12:21 +0100
                                                  Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Desk Rabbit <me@example.com> - 2015-11-13 12:26 +0000
                                                    Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-11-13 14:57 +0100
                                                      Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Desk Rabbit <me@example.com> - 2015-11-13 17:04 +0000
                                                  Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2015-11-13 07:25 -0600
                                                    Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-13 11:48 -0500
                                                      Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Desk Rabbit <me@example.com> - 2015-11-13 17:09 +0000
                                                        Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-13 20:39 +0000
                                                          Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Big Fish in a Small Crotch <bigfishinasmallcrotch@myself.com> - 2015-11-13 15:43 -0500
                                                            Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-13 21:30 +0000
                                                          Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Desk Rabbit <me@example.com> - 2015-11-16 09:27 +0000
                                                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-13 22:18 +0000
                                                  Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Desk Rabbit <me@example.com> - 2015-11-16 09:29 +0000
                                          Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-12 18:39 -0500
                                          Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Desk Rabbit <me@example.com> - 2015-11-13 10:55 +0000
                                            Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-13 10:26 -0700
                                        Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-12 15:26 -0700
                                          Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-12 22:42 +0000
                                            Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-12 16:06 -0700
                                              Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-12 23:25 +0000
                                                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-11-12 23:36 +0000
                                                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-12 18:46 -0500
                                                  Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-13 00:35 +0000
                                                    Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-13 14:54 -0700
                                                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-13 14:53 -0700
                                            Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-12 17:40 -0700
                                    Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-12 18:37 -0500
                                      Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-13 00:40 +0000
                                      Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-12 18:01 -0700
                                        Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-11-13 01:29 +0000
                                          Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-12 18:47 -0700
                                            Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-11-13 02:29 +0000
                                              Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-12 19:34 -0700
                                              Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Big Fish in a Small Crotch <bigfishinasmallcrotch@myself.com> - 2015-11-12 21:45 -0500
                                          Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Big Fish in a Small Crotch <bigfishinasmallcrotch@myself.com> - 2015-11-12 21:03 -0500
                                            Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-11-13 02:26 +0000
                                              Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-12 19:35 -0700
                                                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-11-13 02:51 +0000
                                                  Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Big Fish in a Small Crotch <bigfishinasmallcrotch@myself.com> - 2015-11-12 22:00 -0500
                                                    Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-11-13 03:36 +0000
                                                      Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Big Fish in a Small Crotch <bigfishinasmallcrotch@myself.com> - 2015-11-12 22:41 -0500
                                                  Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-12 20:00 -0700
                                                    Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-11-13 03:18 +0000
                                                      Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-13 01:49 -0700
                                                      Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-13 10:27 -0500
                                                        Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Big Fish in a Small Crotch <bigfishinasmallcrotch@myself.com> - 2015-11-13 11:15 -0500
                                                          Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2015-11-13 11:30 -0500
                                                            Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Big Fish in a Small Crotch <bigfishinasmallcrotch@myself.com> - 2015-11-13 11:32 -0500
                                                            Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-13 10:25 -0700
                                                            Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. benj <none@gmail.com> - 2015-11-13 12:27 -0500
                                                              Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-13 10:41 -0700
                                                          Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-13 12:40 -0500
                                                            Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-13 10:47 -0700
                                                            Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Big Fish in a Small Crotch <bigfishinasmallcrotch@myself.com> - 2015-11-13 12:52 -0500
                                                        Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-13 10:06 -0700
                                                  Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-13 10:25 -0500
                                                    Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Big Fish in a Small Crotch <bigfishinasmallcrotch@myself.com> - 2015-11-13 10:28 -0500
                                                      Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-13 11:52 -0500
                                                        Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-13 10:02 -0700
                                                        Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Big Fish in a Small Crotch <bigfishinasmallcrotch@myself.com> - 2015-11-13 12:15 -0500
                                              Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Big Fish in a Small Crotch <bigfishinasmallcrotch@myself.com> - 2015-11-12 21:44 -0500
                                              Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-13 10:24 -0500
                                                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-11-14 01:01 +0000
                                                  Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Big Fish in a Small Crotch <bigfishinasmallcrotch@myself.com> - 2015-11-13 20:08 -0500
                                                    Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-13 20:17 -0500
                            Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-11-11 02:07 +0000
          Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-11-09 21:48 +0100
            Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-09 14:23 -0700
            Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-11-09 21:25 +0000
              Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-09 14:37 -0700
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-09 18:41 -0700
                  Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-09 21:07 -0500
                    Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-10 04:05 +0000
                      Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-09 21:48 -0700
                      Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-10 08:20 -0500
                        Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-10 15:18 +0000
                      Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-10 12:29 -0700
                    Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-10 12:28 -0700
                      Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-10 12:46 -0700
                        Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-10 16:36 -0700
                      Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-10 18:32 -0500
            Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-09 18:39 -0700
              Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-09 18:46 -0700
              Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-10 04:09 +0000
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-09 21:47 -0700
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-10 08:21 -0500
                  Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-11-10 14:48 +0100
                    Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-10 10:34 -0500
                      Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-11-10 18:27 +0100
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-10 12:31 -0700
          Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-09 20:51 +0000
            Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-11-09 21:21 +0000
              Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-09 21:49 +0000
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-09 15:12 -0700
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-09 18:48 -0700
                  Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-10 04:14 +0000
                    Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-09 21:47 -0700
                    Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-10 12:33 -0700
              GhostScipt works well on Windows. Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> - 2015-11-09 16:09 -0800
                Re: GhostScipt works well on Windows. Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-09 19:54 -0500
                  Re: GhostScipt works well on Windows. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-09 18:49 -0700
              Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Desk Rabbit <me@example.com> - 2015-11-11 09:42 +0000
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-11-11 13:29 +0100
                  Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Desk Rabbit <me@example.com> - 2015-11-11 13:08 +0000
            Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-09 16:58 -0500
            Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-09 18:43 -0700
              Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-10 04:18 +0000
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-09 21:46 -0700
                  Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-10 13:49 -0700
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-10 13:48 -0700
      Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-09 04:56 +0000
        Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-08 22:15 -0700
          Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-09 05:27 +0000
            Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-08 22:43 -0700
    Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. gilber34 <fafa@invalid.com> - 2015-11-08 22:16 -0600
      Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-09 04:26 +0000
        Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. gilber34 <fafa@invalid.com> - 2015-11-09 07:31 -0600
    Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Desk Rabbit <me@example.com> - 2015-11-09 10:14 +0000
      Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-09 18:02 +0000
        Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-09 12:15 -0700
        Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-09 13:06 -0700
      Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2015-11-09 14:13 -0500
    Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2015-11-09 06:13 -0500
      Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Desk Rabbit <me@example.com> - 2015-11-09 12:32 +0000
        Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2015-11-09 11:38 -0500
      Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2015-11-09 07:51 -0600
      Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-09 18:05 +0000
        Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2015-11-09 13:52 -0500
        Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-11-09 13:00 -0600
        Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-09 12:17 -0700
        Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-09 13:07 -0700
          Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-11-09 21:46 +0100
            Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-09 14:26 -0700
            Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-09 18:52 -0700
              Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2015-11-10 02:54 +0100
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-10 13:51 -0700
              Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-11-10 10:27 +0100
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2015-11-10 06:52 -0500
                  Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-11-10 13:21 +0100
                    Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2015-11-10 07:39 -0500
                      Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-10 13:55 -0700
                    Are the FOSS community "suckers", Kreep? chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2015-11-10 07:12 -0600
                      Re: Are the FOSS community "suckers", Kreep? Big Fish in a Small Crotch <bigfishinasmallcrotch@myself.com> - 2015-11-10 08:22 -0500
                      Re: Are the FOSS community "suckers", Kreep? chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2015-11-11 09:27 -0600
                    Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-10 13:58 -0700
                    Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2015-11-10 22:01 +0000
                      Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-11-10 23:15 +0100
                        Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-10 16:38 -0700
                          Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-11-11 00:45 +0100
                            Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-11 14:15 -0700
                        Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-10 18:10 -0700
                          Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-11-11 10:05 +0100
                            Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-11 11:20 +0000
                              Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-11-11 13:27 +0100
                                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-12 10:36 -0700
                                  Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-11-12 22:58 +0100
                                    Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-12 15:15 -0700
                        Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2015-11-11 06:15 -0500
                      Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-10 16:37 -0700
                  Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-10 09:31 -0700
                  Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-10 13:55 -0700
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-10 13:54 -0700
          Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-09 21:14 +0000
            Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-09 18:53 -0700
              Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. dvus <dven1@adelphia.net> - 2015-11-10 18:00 -0500
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-10 16:39 -0700
                  Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. dvus <dven1@adelphia.net> - 2015-11-11 18:00 -0500
                    Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2015-11-11 20:02 -0700
                      Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. dvus <dven1@adelphia.net> - 2015-11-12 09:22 -0500
                        Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-12 11:43 -0700
                          Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. dvus <dven1@adelphia.net> - 2015-11-12 18:07 -0500
                            Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2015-11-13 07:35 -0600
                              Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-13 14:58 -0700
                            Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-13 14:57 -0700
                              Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. dvus <dven1@adelphia.net> - 2015-11-14 07:30 -0500
                                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-14 12:18 -0700
                                  Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. dvus <dven1@adelphia.net> - 2015-11-14 22:09 -0500
                                    Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-14 20:12 -0700
                                      Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-15 03:31 +0000
                                        To dvus. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-16 11:40 -0700
                                      Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. dvus <dven1@adelphia.net> - 2015-11-15 10:46 -0500
                                        Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-16 11:38 -0700
                                          Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. dvus <dven1@adelphia.net> - 2015-11-16 14:47 -0500
                                            Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2015-11-16 20:26 +0000
                                              Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2015-11-16 14:43 -0600
                                                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-16 14:19 -0700
                                              Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-16 15:38 -0700
                                            Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-16 15:37 -0700
                                              Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. dvus <dven1@adelphia.net> - 2015-11-17 05:30 -0500
                                                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2015-11-17 14:57 -0700
                                                  Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. dvus <dven1@adelphia.net> - 2015-11-17 20:04 -0500
    Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-09 08:14 -0500
    Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-11-09 10:56 -0600
    Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-11-09 11:25 -0600
      Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. benj <none@gmail.com> - 2015-11-09 13:30 -0500
        Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-11-09 16:21 -0600
          Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. benj <none@gmail.com> - 2015-11-09 20:37 -0500
            Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. dvus <dven1@adelphia.net> - 2015-11-10 18:08 -0500
      Fabian_Russell isn't all there. Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> - 2015-11-09 10:31 -0800
        Re: Fabian_Russell isn't all there. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-09 19:15 +0000
        Re: Fabian_Russell isn't all there. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-11-09 16:23 -0600
          Re: Fabian_Russell isn't all there. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-09 22:35 +0000
            Re: Fabian_Russell isn't all there. benj <none@gmail.com> - 2015-11-09 20:41 -0500
          Re: Fabian_Russell isn't all there. benj <none@gmail.com> - 2015-11-09 20:39 -0500
      Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-09 18:40 +0000
        Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-11-09 17:05 -0600
          Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Apollyon <adravirgo@gmail.com> - 2015-11-09 15:14 -0800
            Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-11-09 17:36 -0600
            Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-10 00:07 +0000
          Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-09 23:53 +0000
            Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-11-10 08:53 -0600
              Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-10 15:58 +0000

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#531528

FromFabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain>
Date2015-11-09 21:01 +0000
Message-ID<pan.2015.11.09.21.00.02@localhost.localdomain>
In reply to#531511
On Mon, 09 Nov 2015 15:18:57 -0500, Ezekiel wrote:

> 
> I don't think data integrity is the problem. It's needless complexity.
> 

If data integrity were not a potential problem then Microsoft would
not keep several previous "editions" of the registry in storage to
use in case of an OS failure and the need to fallback.

Its complexity, aside from serving to confound application programmers
who consistently fail to clean up after themselves, also serves as a perfect
hiding place for malware "hooks."

But who cares?  The average user will never notice.

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#531531

From"Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com>
Date2015-11-09 16:08 -0500
Message-ID<n1r1sn$ola$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#531528
"Fabian Russell" <root@localhost.localdomain> wrote in message 
news:pan.2015.11.09.21.00.02@localhost.localdomain...
> On Mon, 09 Nov 2015 15:18:57 -0500, Ezekiel wrote:
>
>>
>> I don't think data integrity is the problem. It's needless complexity.
>>
>
> If data integrity were not a potential problem then Microsoft would
> not keep several previous "editions" of the registry in storage to
> use in case of an OS failure and the need to fallback.
>

So what does this have to do with data integrity?

Some app may have made changes to the registry that made the system 
unbootable. This means that the current settings are preventing the machine 
from booting. Not that the registry has suddenly become corrupted and is no 
longer readable.

The previous versions/restore-points are there to roll-back to in case the 
user wants to revert to the previous state. It's a problem with the 
contents - not the integrity of the registry itself.


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#531644

FromGreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com>
Date2015-11-09 18:35 -0700
Message-ID<HvCdnXxAd5pa1NzLnZ2dnUU7-LGdnZ2d@bresnan.com>
In reply to#531528
On 11/09/15 14:01, Fabian Russell wrote:
> On Mon, 09 Nov 2015 15:18:57 -0500, Ezekiel wrote:
>
>>
>> I don't think data integrity is the problem. It's needless complexity.
>>
>
> If data integrity were not a potential problem then Microsoft would
> not keep several previous "editions" of the registry in storage to
> use in case of an OS failure and the need to fallback.

That is due to non ECC ram.  One bit drop and problems may appear.

>
> Its complexity, aside from serving to confound application programmers
> who consistently fail to clean up after themselves, also serves as a perfect
> hiding place for malware "hooks."
>
> But who cares?  The average user will never notice.
>
Yep, they won't notice.


-- 
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#531549

FromSnit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
Date2015-11-09 13:54 -0700
Message-ID<D266562E.634B9%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
In reply to#531511
On 11/9/15, 1:18 PM, in article n1quv6$cu0$1@dont-email.me, "Ezekiel"
<zeke@nosuchemail.com> wrote:

> 
> "Lloyd Parsons" <lloydp211@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:dacciqFsfevU2@mid.individual.net...
>> On Mon, 09 Nov 2015 13:01:41 -0700, GreyCloud wrote:
>> 
>>> On 11/08/15 21:22, Fabian Russell wrote:
>>>> On Sun, 08 Nov 2015 20:02:52 -0700, Snit wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> How about that registry, eh?  The registry is an inaccessible heap of
>>>> garbage that also forms a gigantic weak spot for complete OS failure.
>>>> Microsoft deserves a medal for that idea.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>> More FUD.  Never had trouble with the registry.
>>> The OS never has failed me or anybody else that uses windows.
>>> 
>>> < snipped delusional trolling >
>> 
>> Most users never are even aware that the registry exists.
> 
> I like the basic idea of a registry. Instead of storing settings,
> preferences and configuration data all over the place you put it all into
> one centralized mini-database. Basically, think of something like SQLite to
> store all this in one place.

Like a "Preferences" folder... but so you know where things are you have one
for each user and then a standard one for the system. Hmmm, I like it. :)

> I don't think data integrity is the problem. It's needless complexity.
> 
> The problem is that Microsoft screwed the pooch in their implementation.
> It's way, way too complicated for what it needs to be.  I literally have
> several 100's of keys like:
> 
> HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Installer\UserDat
> a\S-1-5-18\Components\4A191448F4F0161448230045E3B993CB
> 
> that have one single REG_SZ entry of "C7FAF248FE053644B9F826221E83D4D7" that
> is set to "C:\Program Files\Microsoft SDKs\Windows\v6.0A\Lib\x64\msdrm.lib"
> 
> This part is crazy. If they just kept it simple then it wouldn't be the
> complicated mess that exists today.

Also would be better to have individual files so if you are having issues
with the settings of program X you can just toss its preferences easily.



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#531525

FromFabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain>
Date2015-11-09 20:54 +0000
Message-ID<pan.2015.11.09.20.53.14@localhost.localdomain>
In reply to#531500
On Mon, 09 Nov 2015 20:04:43 +0000, Lloyd Parsons wrote:

> 
> Most users never are even aware that the registry exists.
>

Until it becomes bloated with masses of leftover entries from
incomplete uninstalls (a Microsoft specialty) and begins to drag
the machine into a crawl.

Care to transfer your software configuration to a new machine?
With Microsoft, the task is far from trivial.

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#531534

FromLloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com>
Date2015-11-09 21:13 +0000
Message-ID<dacgjmFtq0rU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#531525
On Mon, 09 Nov 2015 20:54:51 +0000, Fabian Russell wrote:

> On Mon, 09 Nov 2015 20:04:43 +0000, Lloyd Parsons wrote:
> 
> 
>> Most users never are even aware that the registry exists.
>>
>>
> Until it becomes bloated with masses of leftover entries from incomplete
> uninstalls (a Microsoft specialty) and begins to drag the machine into a
> crawl.
> 
Utter crap, well it is if you insist on using crap hardware.  I've got 4 
Windows machines here with nary an issue with the registry in many, many 
years.

> Care to transfer your software configuration to a new machine? With
> Microsoft, the task is far from trivial.

Utter bullshit!

In Win8/8.1/10, software settings are synced quite well as are OS 
settings.




-- 
Lloyd

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#531551

FromSlimer <.m@nsn.s>
Date2015-11-09 17:17 -0500
Message-ID<n1r5ts$7i0$3@dont-email.me>
In reply to#531525
On 2015-11-09 3:54 PM, Fabian Russell wrote:
> On Mon, 09 Nov 2015 20:04:43 +0000, Lloyd Parsons wrote:
> 
>>
>> Most users never are even aware that the registry exists.
>>
> 
> Until it becomes bloated with masses of leftover entries from
> incomplete uninstalls (a Microsoft specialty) and begins to drag
> the machine into a crawl.
> 
> Care to transfer your software configuration to a new machine?
> With Microsoft, the task is far from trivial.

It has been proven, long ago, that the registry doesn't affect
performance. A load of temporary files, however, will and doing a
routine disk cleanup in Windows (same as in Linux) would be a good idea.


-- 
Slimer

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#531556

FromPeter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de>
Date2015-11-09 23:24 +0100
Message-ID<n1r6aj$a50$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to#531551
Slimer wrote:

> On 2015-11-09 3:54 PM, Fabian Russell wrote:
>> On Mon, 09 Nov 2015 20:04:43 +0000, Lloyd Parsons wrote:
>> 
>>>
>>> Most users never are even aware that the registry exists.
>>>
>> 
>> Until it becomes bloated with masses of leftover entries from
>> incomplete uninstalls (a Microsoft specialty) and begins to drag
>> the machine into a crawl.
>> 
>> Care to transfer your software configuration to a new machine?
>> With Microsoft, the task is far from trivial.
> 
> It has been proven, long ago, that the registry doesn't affect
> performance. 

By whom? It will affect performance, because the registry is loaded into 
memory on boot. The larger it is, the more memory is needlessly consumed

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#531563

FromSlimer <.m@nsn.s>
Date2015-11-09 17:36 -0500
Message-ID<n1r723$cil$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to#531556
On 2015-11-09 5:24 PM, Peter Köhlmann wrote:
> Slimer wrote:
> 
>> On 2015-11-09 3:54 PM, Fabian Russell wrote:
>>> On Mon, 09 Nov 2015 20:04:43 +0000, Lloyd Parsons wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Most users never are even aware that the registry exists.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Until it becomes bloated with masses of leftover entries from
>>> incomplete uninstalls (a Microsoft specialty) and begins to drag
>>> the machine into a crawl.
>>>
>>> Care to transfer your software configuration to a new machine?
>>> With Microsoft, the task is far from trivial.
>>
>> It has been proven, long ago, that the registry doesn't affect
>> performance. 
> 
> By whom? It will affect performance, because the registry is loaded into 
> memory on boot. The larger it is, the more memory is needlessly consumed

It might be loaded into memory and therefore take more RAM, but it
doesn't really influence the way things run for people. In other words,
you won't actually experience a slowdown as a larger registry does
nothing more than take more RAM but not more CPU cycles.

However, if ever it DOES become an issue for anyone, it can be cleaned
with a variety of free tools. However, most publications have shown that
if there IS an improvement in performance from a cleaner registry, it
will be about 1 or 2% or 1 or 2 seconds less time to boot.

-- 
Slimer

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#531645

FromGreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com>
Date2015-11-09 18:37 -0700
Message-ID<HvCdnX9Ad5r819zLnZ2dnUU7-LGdnZ2d@bresnan.com>
In reply to#531556
On 11/09/15 15:24, Peter Köhlmann wrote:
> Slimer wrote:
>
>> On 2015-11-09 3:54 PM, Fabian Russell wrote:
>>> On Mon, 09 Nov 2015 20:04:43 +0000, Lloyd Parsons wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Most users never are even aware that the registry exists.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Until it becomes bloated with masses of leftover entries from
>>> incomplete uninstalls (a Microsoft specialty) and begins to drag
>>> the machine into a crawl.
>>>
>>> Care to transfer your software configuration to a new machine?
>>> With Microsoft, the task is far from trivial.
>>
>> It has been proven, long ago, that the registry doesn't affect
>> performance.
>
> By whom? It will affect performance, because the registry is loaded into
> memory on boot. The larger it is, the more memory is needlessly consumed

And how much ram do you think it will consume again?
Over 4 years the ram monitor on win7 on boot up hasn't changed but by a 
couple of kbytes.


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#531642

FromGreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com>
Date2015-11-09 18:32 -0700
Message-ID<HvCdnX1Ad5q51NzLnZ2dnUU7-LFg4p2d@bresnan.com>
In reply to#531500
On 11/09/15 13:04, Lloyd Parsons wrote:
> On Mon, 09 Nov 2015 13:01:41 -0700, GreyCloud wrote:
>
>> On 11/08/15 21:22, Fabian Russell wrote:
>>> On Sun, 08 Nov 2015 20:02:52 -0700, Snit wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> The computer is working to accommodate the user. And is should.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> The computer is working to accommodate the ignoramus who never bothered
>>> to take the time to learn about computers even though they are an
>>> integral and indispensable part of our civilization.
>>>
>>> There, I fixed that for you.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> What text file do you mean? Old .ini files? If so, sure, a general
>>>> user should never have to see those.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Yeah,  Now we are faced with that uniquely Microsoft monstrosity known
>>> as the REGISTRY.
>>>
>>> How about that registry, eh?  The registry is an inaccessible heap of
>>> garbage that also forms a gigantic weak spot for complete OS failure.
>>> Microsoft deserves a medal for that idea.
>>>
>>>
>> More FUD.  Never had trouble with the registry.
>> The OS never has failed me or anybody else that uses windows.
>>
>> <  snipped delusional trolling>
>
> Most users never are even aware that the registry exists.
>
>
>
I know.  And that's because they won't have any troubles with it either, 
plus there are backup registries as it is.
I've had win7 for 4 years now and it hasn't once given me any registry 
problems.
I'm not sure tho about products that clean registries.  I've heard one 
can get into trouble with those products.


-- 
My problem is that I don't have enough middle fingers.

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#531501

FromSnit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
Date2015-11-09 13:04 -0700
Message-ID<D2664A67.63482%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
In reply to#531496
On 11/9/15, 1:01 PM, in article
4o2dnZlD0KU7Zt3LnZ2dnUU7-RudnZ2d@bresnan.com, "GreyCloud" <cumulus@mist.com>
wrote:

>> The computer is working to accommodate the ignoramus who never bothered
>> to take the time to learn about computers even though they are an integral
>> and indispensable part of our civilization.
>> 
>> There, I fixed that for you.
>> 
>> 
>>> 
>>> What text file do you mean? Old .ini files? If so, sure, a general user
>>> should never have to see those.
>>> 
>> 
>> Yeah,  Now we are faced with that uniquely Microsoft monstrosity known as
>> the REGISTRY.
>> 
>> How about that registry, eh?  The registry is an inaccessible heap of garbage
>> that also forms a gigantic weak spot for complete OS failure.  Microsoft
>> deserves a medal for that idea.
>> 
> 
> More FUD.  Never had trouble with the registry.
> The OS never has failed me or anybody else that uses windows.

In XP and before I used to see Registry errors... but I have not seen any in
years. No, I do not think it is a great design but it is not the problem he
is working to make it seem.


-- 
* OS X / Linux: What is a file?     <http://youtu.be/_dMbXGLW9PI>
* Mint MATE Trash, Panel, Menu:     <http://youtu.be/C0y74FIf7uE>
* Mint KDE working with folders:    <http://youtu.be/7C9nvniOoE0>
* Mint KDE creating files:          <http://youtu.be/N7-fZJaJUv8>
* Mint KDE help:                    <http://youtu.be/3ikizUd3sa8>
* Mint KDE general navigation:      <http://youtu.be/t9y14yZtQuI>
* Mint KDE bugs or Easter eggs?     <http://youtu.be/CU-whJQvtfA>
* Easy on OS X / Hard on Linux:     <http://youtu.be/D3BPWANQoIk>
* OS / Word Processor Comparison:   <http://youtu.be/w6Qcl-w7s5c>

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#531635

FromGreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com>
Date2015-11-09 18:30 -0700
Message-ID<HvCdnUJAd5oq1dzLnZ2dnUU7-LGdnZ2d@bresnan.com>
In reply to#531501
On 11/09/15 13:04, Snit wrote:
> On 11/9/15, 1:01 PM, in article
> 4o2dnZlD0KU7Zt3LnZ2dnUU7-RudnZ2d@bresnan.com, "GreyCloud"<cumulus@mist.com>
> wrote:
>
>>> The computer is working to accommodate the ignoramus who never bothered
>>> to take the time to learn about computers even though they are an integral
>>> and indispensable part of our civilization.
>>>
>>> There, I fixed that for you.
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> What text file do you mean? Old .ini files? If so, sure, a general user
>>>> should never have to see those.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Yeah,  Now we are faced with that uniquely Microsoft monstrosity known as
>>> the REGISTRY.
>>>
>>> How about that registry, eh?  The registry is an inaccessible heap of garbage
>>> that also forms a gigantic weak spot for complete OS failure.  Microsoft
>>> deserves a medal for that idea.
>>>
>>
>> More FUD.  Never had trouble with the registry.
>> The OS never has failed me or anybody else that uses windows.
>
> In XP and before I used to see Registry errors... but I have not seen any in
> years. No, I do not think it is a great design but it is not the problem he
> is working to make it seem.
>
>
It is just the way windows works is all.  A lot of these advocates can't 
adjust it seems.


-- 
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#531653

FromSnit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
Date2015-11-09 18:44 -0700
Message-ID<D2669A23.635D2%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
In reply to#531635
On 11/9/15, 6:30 PM, in article
HvCdnUJAd5oq1dzLnZ2dnUU7-LGdnZ2d@bresnan.com, "GreyCloud" <cumulus@mist.com>
wrote:

>>>> How about that registry, eh?  The registry is an inaccessible heap of
>>>> garbage
>>>> that also forms a gigantic weak spot for complete OS failure.  Microsoft
>>>> deserves a medal for that idea.
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> More FUD.  Never had trouble with the registry.
>>> The OS never has failed me or anybody else that uses windows.
>> 
>> In XP and before I used to see Registry errors... but I have not seen any in
>> years. No, I do not think it is a great design but it is not the problem he
>> is working to make it seem.
>> 
>> 
> It is just the way windows works is all.  A lot of these advocates can't
> adjust it seems.

The value of a tool is what it does. Linux does MANY things great... but it
does not compete well on the desktop.

If it did they would be posted examples of where it serves them well. Notice
how rarely they do.

-- 
* OS X / Linux: What is a file?     <http://youtu.be/_dMbXGLW9PI>
* Mint MATE Trash, Panel, Menu:     <http://youtu.be/C0y74FIf7uE>
* Mint KDE working with folders:    <http://youtu.be/7C9nvniOoE0>
* Mint KDE creating files:          <http://youtu.be/N7-fZJaJUv8>
* Mint KDE help:                    <http://youtu.be/3ikizUd3sa8>
* Mint KDE general navigation:      <http://youtu.be/t9y14yZtQuI>
* Mint KDE bugs or Easter eggs?     <http://youtu.be/CU-whJQvtfA>
* Easy on OS X / Hard on Linux:     <http://youtu.be/D3BPWANQoIk>
* OS / Word Processor Comparison:   <http://youtu.be/w6Qcl-w7s5c>

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#531691

FromFabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain>
Date2015-11-10 03:58 +0000
Message-ID<pan.2015.11.10.03.56.53@localhost.localdomain>
In reply to#531653
On Mon, 09 Nov 2015 18:44:51 -0700, Snit wrote:

> 
> The value of a tool is what it does. Linux does MANY things great... but it
> does not compete well on the desktop.
> 

Sayeth whom?

I've been using Linux on MY desktop since 1998 for a variety of purposes,
including but not limited to document production, image/video/sound processing,
CD/DVD/Blu-ray burning, scientific computing, programming, HTML editing, etc.

My MS Windows boxen are mere paperweights (and to fool the cops).

Whoever DOESN'T use Linux is a brain-dead fool.

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#531703

FromSnit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
Date2015-11-09 21:38 -0700
Message-ID<D266C2E8.63625%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
In reply to#531691
On 11/9/15, 8:58 PM, in article
pan.2015.11.10.03.56.53@localhost.localdomain, "Fabian Russell"
<root@localhost.localdomain> wrote:

> On Mon, 09 Nov 2015 18:44:51 -0700, Snit wrote:
> 
>> 
>> The value of a tool is what it does. Linux does MANY things great... but it
>> does not compete well on the desktop.
> 
> Sayeth whom?

Well, the evidence certainly points that way! Usage levels are one piece of
evidence (tied to it being no-cost and being marketed by Dell and HP and
Walmart and others), but perhaps a bigger one is how there are so few
examples of tasks it actually does real well with! Notice how I all but beg
for people to show examples and they fail time and time again.

> I've been using Linux on MY desktop since 1998 for a variety of purposes,
> including but not limited to document production, image/video/sound
> processing, CD/DVD/Blu-ray burning, scientific computing, programming, HTML
> editing, etc.

Would be great for you to show how you think it helps you do these things
better than the competition. Show a great workflow, perhaps.

> My MS Windows boxen are mere paperweights (and to fool the cops).
> 
> Whoever DOESN'T use Linux is a brain-dead fool.

Even if there are no examples of what it does better? Remember, I have shown
you some examples of what the competition does better - and can easily show
more.


-- 
* OS X / Linux: What is a file?     <http://youtu.be/_dMbXGLW9PI>
* Mint MATE Trash, Panel, Menu:     <http://youtu.be/C0y74FIf7uE>
* Mint KDE working with folders:    <http://youtu.be/7C9nvniOoE0>
* Mint KDE creating files:          <http://youtu.be/N7-fZJaJUv8>
* Mint KDE help:                    <http://youtu.be/3ikizUd3sa8>
* Mint KDE general navigation:      <http://youtu.be/t9y14yZtQuI>
* Mint KDE bugs or Easter eggs?     <http://youtu.be/CU-whJQvtfA>
* Easy on OS X / Hard on Linux:     <http://youtu.be/D3BPWANQoIk>
* OS / Word Processor Comparison:   <http://youtu.be/w6Qcl-w7s5c>

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#531747

FromSlimer <.m@nsn.s>
Date2015-11-10 08:18 -0500
Message-ID<n1sqn9$9vi$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to#531691
On 2015-11-09 10:58 PM, Fabian Russell wrote:
> On Mon, 09 Nov 2015 18:44:51 -0700, Snit wrote:
> 
>>
>> The value of a tool is what it does. Linux does MANY things great... but it
>> does not compete well on the desktop.
>>
> 
> Sayeth whom?
> 
> I've been using Linux on MY desktop since 1998 for a variety of purposes,
> including but not limited to document production, image/video/sound processing,
> CD/DVD/Blu-ray burning, scientific computing, programming, HTML editing, etc.
> 
> My MS Windows boxen are mere paperweights (and to fool the cops).

Why would you need to fool cops?

> Whoever DOESN'T use Linux is a brain-dead fool.

So 90% of the world are brain-dead fools.

-- 
Slimer

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#531773

FromFabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain>
Date2015-11-10 15:15 +0000
Message-ID<pan.2015.11.10.15.15.42@localhost.localdomain>
In reply to#531747
On Tue, 10 Nov 2015 08:18:42 -0500, Slimer wrote:

>> 
>> My MS Windows boxen are mere paperweights (and to fool the cops).
> 
> Why would you need to fool cops?
> 

When the cops see my MS Windows machine, which is displayed prominently
to the world, they think that it is all that possibly can be
because they think that Microsoft is all that can possibly be.
Consequently, they won't find the terrorist documents on my Linux
machine.


> 
> So 90% of the world are brain-dead fools.
>

You, sir, are finally learning.

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#531787

FromSlimer <.m@nsn.s>
Date2015-11-10 10:49 -0500
Message-ID<n1t3h9$eqd$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#531773
On 2015-11-10 10:15 AM, Fabian Russell wrote:
> On Tue, 10 Nov 2015 08:18:42 -0500, Slimer wrote:
> 
>>>
>>> My MS Windows boxen are mere paperweights (and to fool the cops).
>>
>> Why would you need to fool cops?
>>
> 
> When the cops see my MS Windows machine, which is displayed prominently
> to the world, they think that it is all that possibly can be
> because they think that Microsoft is all that can possibly be.
> Consequently, they won't find the terrorist documents on my Linux
> machine.

It's not that simple.

>> So 90% of the world are brain-dead fools.
> 
> You, sir, are finally learning.

It's actually 98.5%. My mistake.

-- 
Slimer

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#531850

FromGreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com>
Date2015-11-10 12:25 -0700
Message-ID<IL6dnVVMe4wi2d_LnZ2dnUU7-U2dnZ2d@bresnan.com>
In reply to#531691
On 11/09/15 20:58, Fabian Russell wrote:
> On Mon, 09 Nov 2015 18:44:51 -0700, Snit wrote:
>
>>
>> The value of a tool is what it does. Linux does MANY things great... but it
>> does not compete well on the desktop.
>>
>
> Sayeth whom?

Sayeth Linus Torvalds.

>
> I've been using Linux on MY desktop since 1998 for a variety of purposes,
> including but not limited to document production, image/video/sound processing,
> CD/DVD/Blu-ray burning, scientific computing, programming, HTML editing, etc.
>
> My MS Windows boxen are mere paperweights (and to fool the cops).
>
> Whoever DOESN'T use Linux is a brain-dead fool.
>

Guffaw!!!



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