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| Started by | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
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| First post | 2016-02-26 09:18 -0800 |
| Last post | 2016-03-01 18:58 +0800 |
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unloock a phone The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-02-26 09:18 -0800
Re: unloock a phone The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-02-26 22:08 -0800
Re: unloock a phone The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-02-29 10:58 -0800
Re: unloock a phone Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-03-01 14:25 +1100
Re: unloock a phone benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2016-02-29 22:32 -0500
Re: unloock a phone Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-03-01 22:00 +1100
Re: unloock a phone HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-03-01 03:50 -0800
Re: unloock a phone benj <none@gmail.com> - 2016-03-01 13:29 -0500
Re: unloock a phone HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-03-01 14:19 -0800
Re: unloock a phone HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-03-01 14:21 -0800
Re: unlock a phone The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-03-04 11:27 -0800
Re: unlock a phone The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-03-04 11:28 -0800
Re: unlock a phone The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-03-04 11:29 -0800
Re: unlock a phone The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-03-04 14:40 -0800
Re: unlock a phone HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-03-04 15:31 -0800
Re: unlock a phone benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2016-03-05 01:36 -0500
Re: unlock a phone HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-03-04 23:03 -0800
Re: unlock a phone benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2016-03-05 02:33 -0500
Re: unlock a phone HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-03-05 03:59 -0800
Re: unlock a phone Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2016-03-05 05:22 -0800
Re: unlock a phone HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-03-05 05:31 -0800
Re: unlock a phone Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2016-03-05 06:19 -0800
Re: unlock a phone benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2016-03-05 14:18 -0500
Re: unloock a phone Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-02-28 12:08 +1100
Re: unloock a phone Emigdio Sophronius <emigg@augustvisitors.org> - 2016-02-28 14:09 +0000
Re: unloock a phone "Colonel Edmund J. Burke" <burkesgurlz@t-girls.com> - 2016-02-28 06:10 -0800
Re: unloock a phone Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-02-29 11:24 +1100
Re: unloock a phone "Colonel Edmund J. Burke" <burkesgurlz@t-girls.com> - 2016-02-28 16:50 -0800
Re: unloock a phone Diesel <me@privacy.net> - 2016-02-29 19:52 +0000
unloock a phone HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-02-28 06:41 -0800
Re: unloock a phone benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2016-02-28 10:35 -0500
Re: unloock a phone HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-02-28 08:30 -0800
Re: unloock a phone benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2016-02-29 02:43 -0500
Re: unloock a phone HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-02-29 04:16 -0800
Re: unloock a phone Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2016-02-29 08:13 -0800
Re: unloock a phone HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-02-29 08:34 -0800
Re: unloock a phone benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2016-02-29 14:47 -0500
Re: unloock a phone HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-02-29 13:26 -0800
Re: unloock a phone HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-02-29 13:26 -0800
Re: unloock a phone Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2016-02-29 15:37 -0800
Re: unloock a phone benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2016-02-29 14:20 -0500
Re: unloock a phone HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-02-29 11:37 -0800
Re: unloock a phone benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2016-02-29 16:04 -0500
Re: unloock a phone HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-02-29 11:42 -0800
Re: unloock a phone benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2016-02-29 16:18 -0500
[OT] "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2016-02-28 23:30 +0800
Re: [OT] Wolffan <AKWolffan@gmail.com> - 2016-02-28 17:53 -0500
Re: [OT] "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2016-02-29 19:17 +0800
Re: [OT] The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-02-28 19:59 -0800
Re: [OT] "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2016-02-29 19:19 +0800
Re: [OT] The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-02-29 14:44 -0800
Re: [OT] "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2016-03-01 18:53 +0800
Re: [OT] The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-03-01 14:16 -0800
Re: [OT] "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2016-03-02 21:46 +0800
Re: [OT] The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-03-02 18:24 -0800
Re: [OT] The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-03-02 22:22 -0800
[OT] Go misc.phone.mobile.iphone "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2016-03-01 18:58 +0800
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| From | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
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| Date | 2016-02-26 09:18 -0800 |
| Subject | unloock a phone |
| Message-ID | <56D088CF.6970@ix.netcom.com> |
you mean to tell me the F.B.I don't know how to unlock a phone? How stupid can they be???? I mean...I know the FBI are just a bunch of wet behind the ears stupid guys...but i didn't know they didn't know how to unlock a phone. Couldn't they simply do a google search? Or some 3 year old on youtube could should show them how... you mean to tell me the F.B.I don't know how to unlock a phone? i mean...How stupid can they be???? I mean I don't get it? I mean, if you want to bust out of jail, you do a google search for digging tunnels, right???? I mean, a FBI guy should be able to go home and ask his 6 year old son "Can you unlock this for me??" Even a 3 year old knows you don't call APPLE!
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| From | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
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| Date | 2016-02-26 22:08 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <56D13D4C.AD@ix.netcom.com> |
| In reply to | #556882 |
The Starmaker wrote: > > you mean to tell me the F.B.I don't know how to unlock a phone? > > How stupid can they be???? > > I mean...I know the FBI are just a bunch of wet behind the ears > stupid guys...but i didn't know > they didn't know how to unlock a phone. > > Couldn't they simply do a google search? > > Or some 3 year old on youtube could should show them how... > > you mean to tell me the F.B.I don't know how to unlock a phone? > > i mean...How stupid can they be???? > > I mean I don't get it? > > I mean, if you want to bust out of jail, you do a google search for digging tunnels, right???? > > I mean, a FBI guy should be able to go home and > ask his 6 year old son "Can you unlock this for me??" > > Even a 3 year old knows you don't call APPLE! I suspect what the problem is...the FBI don't know how to use a desktop computer.
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| From | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
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| Date | 2016-02-29 10:58 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <56D494F2.30C5@ix.netcom.com> |
| In reply to | #557147 |
The Starmaker wrote: > > The Starmaker wrote: > > > > you mean to tell me the F.B.I don't know how to unlock a phone? > > > > How stupid can they be???? > > > > I mean...I know the FBI are just a bunch of wet behind the ears > > stupid guys...but i didn't know > > they didn't know how to unlock a phone. > > > > Couldn't they simply do a google search? > > > > Or some 3 year old on youtube could should show them how... > > > > you mean to tell me the F.B.I don't know how to unlock a phone? > > > > i mean...How stupid can they be???? > > > > I mean I don't get it? > > > > I mean, if you want to bust out of jail, you do a google search for digging tunnels, right???? > > > > I mean, a FBI guy should be able to go home and > > ask his 6 year old son "Can you unlock this for me??" > > > > Even a 3 year old knows you don't call APPLE! > > I suspect what the problem is...the FBI don't know how to use a desktop > computer. The FBI needs Apple to disarm the feature that erases the content of iPhones on the 10th wrong password so that agents can gain access to the phone to learn if there are other sleeper cells or plots. When Apple refused the court order, Apple defenders claimed it was impossible to unlock the phone. In court papers filed last week, Apple admits that’s not true, but still claims an “unreasonable burden.”
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| From | Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> |
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| Date | 2016-03-01 14:25 +1100 |
| Message-ID | <djkgdgFu4f0U1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #557944 |
On 1/03/2016 5:58 AM, The Starmaker wrote: > The Starmaker wrote: >> >> The Starmaker wrote: >>> >>> you mean to tell me the F.B.I don't know how to unlock a phone? >>> >>> How stupid can they be???? >>> >>> I mean...I know the FBI are just a bunch of wet behind the ears >>> stupid guys...but i didn't know >>> they didn't know how to unlock a phone. >>> >>> Couldn't they simply do a google search? >>> >>> Or some 3 year old on youtube could should show them how... >>> >>> you mean to tell me the F.B.I don't know how to unlock a phone? >>> >>> i mean...How stupid can they be???? >>> >>> I mean I don't get it? >>> >>> I mean, if you want to bust out of jail, you do a google search for digging tunnels, right???? >>> >>> I mean, a FBI guy should be able to go home and >>> ask his 6 year old son "Can you unlock this for me??" >>> >>> Even a 3 year old knows you don't call APPLE! >> >> I suspect what the problem is...the FBI don't know how to use a desktop >> computer. > > > The FBI needs Apple to disarm the feature that erases the content of > iPhones on the 10th wrong password so that agents can gain access to the > phone to learn if there are other sleeper cells or plots. > > When Apple refused the court order, Apple defenders claimed it was > impossible to unlock the phone. In court papers filed last week, Apple > admits that’s not true, but still claims an “unreasonable burden.” > Well, it is unreasonable. Apple's only link to the matter is that some time in the past it manufactured a phone, which was sold to a person. That person then committed an unlawful act, and possibly put some information about the unlawful act, or other unlawful acts, onto the phone. Why should Apple now be forced to use its own resources to aid the FBI? Should anyone capable of assisting the FBI in any respect be forced to do so? Sylvia.
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| From | benj <nobody@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-02-29 22:32 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <j38By.21380$ob.2683@fx37.iad> |
| In reply to | #558178 |
On 02/29/2016 10:25 PM, Sylvia Else wrote:
> On 1/03/2016 5:58 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
>> The Starmaker wrote:
>>>
>>> The Starmaker wrote:
>>>>
>>>> you mean to tell me the F.B.I don't know how to unlock a phone?
>>>>
>>>> How stupid can they be????
>>>>
>>>> I mean...I know the FBI are just a bunch of wet behind the ears
>>>> stupid guys...but i didn't know
>>>> they didn't know how to unlock a phone.
>>>>
>>>> Couldn't they simply do a google search?
>>>>
>>>> Or some 3 year old on youtube could should show them how...
>>>>
>>>> you mean to tell me the F.B.I don't know how to unlock a phone?
>>>>
>>>> i mean...How stupid can they be????
>>>>
>>>> I mean I don't get it?
>>>>
>>>> I mean, if you want to bust out of jail, you do a google search for
>>>> digging tunnels, right????
>>>>
>>>> I mean, a FBI guy should be able to go home and
>>>> ask his 6 year old son "Can you unlock this for me??"
>>>>
>>>> Even a 3 year old knows you don't call APPLE!
>>>
>>> I suspect what the problem is...the FBI don't know how to use a desktop
>>> computer.
>>
>>
>> The FBI needs Apple to disarm the feature that erases the content of
>> iPhones on the 10th wrong password so that agents can gain access to the
>> phone to learn if there are other sleeper cells or plots.
>>
>> When Apple refused the court order, Apple defenders claimed it was
>> impossible to unlock the phone. In court papers filed last week, Apple
>> admits that’s not true, but still claims an “unreasonable burden.”
>>
>
> Well, it is unreasonable. Apple's only link to the matter is that some
> time in the past it manufactured a phone, which was sold to a person.
> That person then committed an unlawful act, and possibly put some
> information about the unlawful act, or other unlawful acts, onto the phone.
>
> Why should Apple now be forced to use its own resources to aid the FBI?
> Should anyone capable of assisting the FBI in any respect be forced to
> do so?
>
> Sylvia.
Of course they should. EVERYONE should. If you witnessed something about
the criminals (any criminals for that matter) and you won't tell then
for the security of everyone in the country you must be forced to tell
what you know even if it takes torture. Even if it takes removing all
your assets and preventing you from ever earning a living. Nothing
trumps security. There are no rights or freedoms so important that they
can't be overridden in the name of national security. That is a given.
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| From | Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> |
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| Date | 2016-03-01 22:00 +1100 |
| Message-ID | <djlb2jF5st4U2@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #558179 |
On 1/03/2016 2:32 PM, benj wrote: > On 02/29/2016 10:25 PM, Sylvia Else wrote: >> On 1/03/2016 5:58 AM, The Starmaker wrote: >>> The Starmaker wrote: >>>> >>>> The Starmaker wrote: >>>>> >>>>> you mean to tell me the F.B.I don't know how to unlock a phone? >>>>> >>>>> How stupid can they be???? >>>>> >>>>> I mean...I know the FBI are just a bunch of wet behind the ears >>>>> stupid guys...but i didn't know >>>>> they didn't know how to unlock a phone. >>>>> >>>>> Couldn't they simply do a google search? >>>>> >>>>> Or some 3 year old on youtube could should show them how... >>>>> >>>>> you mean to tell me the F.B.I don't know how to unlock a phone? >>>>> >>>>> i mean...How stupid can they be???? >>>>> >>>>> I mean I don't get it? >>>>> >>>>> I mean, if you want to bust out of jail, you do a google search for >>>>> digging tunnels, right???? >>>>> >>>>> I mean, a FBI guy should be able to go home and >>>>> ask his 6 year old son "Can you unlock this for me??" >>>>> >>>>> Even a 3 year old knows you don't call APPLE! >>>> >>>> I suspect what the problem is...the FBI don't know how to use a desktop >>>> computer. >>> >>> >>> The FBI needs Apple to disarm the feature that erases the content of >>> iPhones on the 10th wrong password so that agents can gain access to the >>> phone to learn if there are other sleeper cells or plots. >>> >>> When Apple refused the court order, Apple defenders claimed it was >>> impossible to unlock the phone. In court papers filed last week, Apple >>> admits that’s not true, but still claims an “unreasonable burden.” >>> >> >> Well, it is unreasonable. Apple's only link to the matter is that some >> time in the past it manufactured a phone, which was sold to a person. >> That person then committed an unlawful act, and possibly put some >> information about the unlawful act, or other unlawful acts, onto the >> phone. >> >> Why should Apple now be forced to use its own resources to aid the FBI? >> Should anyone capable of assisting the FBI in any respect be forced to >> do so? >> >> Sylvia. > > Of course they should. EVERYONE should. If you witnessed something about > the criminals (any criminals for that matter) and you won't tell then > for the security of everyone in the country you must be forced to tell > what you know even if it takes torture. Even if it takes removing all > your assets and preventing you from ever earning a living. Nothing > trumps security. There are no rights or freedoms so important that they > can't be overridden in the name of national security. That is a given. > > Anyway, Apple don't know anything about the criminals that the FBI doesn't already know. Sylvia.
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| From | HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-03-01 03:50 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <e64f41a1-2f49-4cfd-837c-9b805addc18b@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #558179 |
BJ quacked Of course they should. EVERYONE should. If you witnessed something about the criminals (any criminals for that matter) and you won't tell then for the security of everyone in the country you must be forced to tell what you know even if it takes torture. Even if it takes removing all your assets and preventing you from ever earning a living. ------------- I would be in favor of torture in that case. If someone has operational knowledge of a terror plot against American citizens that they will not divulge, torture is not only necessary, it's morally obligatory. Certainly you agree BJ?
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| From | benj <none@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-03-01 13:29 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <RblBy.14309$532.7096@fx15.iad> |
| In reply to | #558253 |
On 03/01/2016 06:50 AM, HVAC wrote:
> BJ quacked
> Of course they should. EVERYONE should. If you witnessed something about
> the criminals (any criminals for that matter) and you won't tell then
> for the security of everyone in the country you must be forced to tell
> what you know even if it takes torture. Even if it takes removing all
> your assets and preventing you from ever earning a living.
> -------------
>
> I would be in favor of torture in that case. If someone has operational knowledge of a terror plot against American citizens that they will not divulge, torture is not only necessary, it's morally obligatory.
>
> Certainly you agree BJ?
>
I do not agree. If a country is ready to throw all it's laws, standards,
morals and ideal away for some tin horn dictatorship based upon some
"terrorist" threat, then I can assure you that there will be people who
will insure that the "threat" appears. That's only smart.
If you can't operate your own country according to it's laws, ideal and
principles, then you should at least let it be buried in holy ground.
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| From | HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-03-01 14:19 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <f6162107-423c-483b-8b5e-0f9c5f14aa4f@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #558253 |
I would be in favor of torture in that case. If someone has operational knowledge of a terror plot against American citizens that they will not divulge, torture is not only necessary, it's morally obligatory. Certainly you agree BJ? - Just as there may come a circumstance where it becomes morality obligatory to shoot someone in the back. Certainly you agree BJ?
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| From | HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-03-01 14:21 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <a05b0d74-974b-4577-9800-08d740054b15@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #558253 |
I would be in favor of torture in that case. If someone has operational knowledge of a terror plot against American citizens that they will not divulge, torture is not only necessary, it's morally obligatory. Certainly you agree BJ? It may even be morally obligatory to shoot an *unarmed* man in the back in certain circumstances. Certainly you agree BJ?
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| From | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
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| Date | 2016-03-04 11:27 -0800 |
| Subject | Re: unlock a phone |
| Message-ID | <56D9E192.41AB@ix.netcom.com> |
| In reply to | #558178 |
Even if the Justice Department loses its legal showdown with Apple Inc. over access to a killer’s iPhone, the government might still be able to extract the data locked away inside it, computer-security experts say. But it would be risky, expensive and time-consuming. Those experts say officials could try to physically crack open the A6 microprocessor inside the phone of Syed Rizwan Farook, targeting the portion of the chip that holds the user ID, or UID, key. With the key, officials could move the iPhone’s scrambled data to another computer and quickly unlock it.
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| From | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
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| Date | 2016-03-04 11:28 -0800 |
| Subject | Re: unlock a phone |
| Message-ID | <56D9E1E6.3C3A@ix.netcom.com> |
| In reply to | #559286 |
The Starmaker wrote: > > Even if the Justice Department loses its legal showdown with Apple Inc. > over access to a killer’s iPhone, the government might still be able to > extract the data locked away inside it, computer-security experts say. > But it would be risky, expensive and time-consuming. > > Those experts say officials could try to physically crack open the A6 > microprocessor inside the phone of Syed Rizwan Farook, targeting the > portion of the chip that holds the user ID, or UID, key. With the key, > officials could move the iPhone’s scrambled data to another computer and > quickly unlock it. If agents were able to obtain it by probing the chip, however, they would then only need to guess Mr. Farook’s passcode, free of the limitations that have so far prevented them from accessing the phone. The most likely method to extract the key, the experts said, would be by using a focused ion beam—essentially a very precise atomic saw that can cut through the chip’s outer structures to expose the 1s and 0s stored in the chip.
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| From | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
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| Date | 2016-03-04 11:29 -0800 |
| Subject | Re: unlock a phone |
| Message-ID | <56D9E233.4689@ix.netcom.com> |
| In reply to | #559287 |
The Starmaker wrote: > > The Starmaker wrote: > > > > Even if the Justice Department loses its legal showdown with Apple Inc. > > over access to a killer’s iPhone, the government might still be able to > > extract the data locked away inside it, computer-security experts say. > > But it would be risky, expensive and time-consuming. > > > > Those experts say officials could try to physically crack open the A6 > > microprocessor inside the phone of Syed Rizwan Farook, targeting the > > portion of the chip that holds the user ID, or UID, key. With the key, > > officials could move the iPhone’s scrambled data to another computer and > > quickly unlock it. > > If agents were able to obtain it by probing the chip, however, they > would then only need to guess Mr. Farook’s passcode, free of the > limitations that have so far prevented them from accessing the phone. > > The most likely method to extract the key, the experts said, would be by > using a focused ion beam—essentially a very precise atomic saw that can > cut through the chip’s outer structures to expose the 1s and 0s stored > in the chip. http://www.wsj.com/articles/chip-hacking-might-help-fbi-unlock-iphones-1457050959 work the problem.
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| From | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
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| Date | 2016-03-04 14:40 -0800 |
| Subject | Re: unlock a phone |
| Message-ID | <56DA0ECA.66F7@ix.netcom.com> |
| In reply to | #559289 |
The Starmaker wrote: > > The Starmaker wrote: > > > > The Starmaker wrote: > > > > > > Even if the Justice Department loses its legal showdown with Apple Inc. > > > over access to a killer’s iPhone, the government might still be able to > > > extract the data locked away inside it, computer-security experts say. > > > But it would be risky, expensive and time-consuming. > > > > > > Those experts say officials could try to physically crack open the A6 > > > microprocessor inside the phone of Syed Rizwan Farook, targeting the > > > portion of the chip that holds the user ID, or UID, key. With the key, > > > officials could move the iPhone’s scrambled data to another computer and > > > quickly unlock it. > > > > If agents were able to obtain it by probing the chip, however, they > > would then only need to guess Mr. Farook’s passcode, free of the > > limitations that have so far prevented them from accessing the phone. > > > > The most likely method to extract the key, the experts said, would be by > > using a focused ion beam—essentially a very precise atomic saw that can > > cut through the chip’s outer structures to expose the 1s and 0s stored > > in the chip. > > http://www.wsj.com/articles/chip-hacking-might-help-fbi-unlock-iphones-1457050959 > > work the problem. of course, this is just an old old hack, like making a copy of the file and crack it on your own time.
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| From | HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-03-04 15:31 -0800 |
| Subject | Re: unlock a phone |
| Message-ID | <d0565371-97ff-413f-81ce-6c00e639359d@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #559287 |
We have all the information off that phone. But the FBI doesn't.
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| From | benj <nobody@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-03-05 01:36 -0500 |
| Subject | Re: unlock a phone |
| Message-ID | <56da7e85$0$29116$c3e8da3$38634283@news.astraweb.com> |
| In reply to | #559417 |
On 03/04/2016 06:31 PM, HVAC wrote: > We have all the information off that phone. But the FBI doesn't. > Stop the presses! (Well, if there were presses, I don't think many of them are still running) This sounds as if this is the first time HVAC has told the truth!
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| From | HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-03-04 23:03 -0800 |
| Subject | Re: unlock a phone |
| Message-ID | <8479fd60-d04c-43bc-b227-b30ce2b3b688@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #559513 |
BJ quacked > We have all the information off that phone. But the FBI doesn't. > Stop the presses! (Well, if there were presses, I don't think many of them are still running) This sounds as if this is the first time HVAC has told the truth! ------------- Just a lucky guess
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| From | benj <nobody@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-03-05 02:33 -0500 |
| Subject | Re: unlock a phone |
| Message-ID | <56da8bc5$0$2913$c3e8da3$f6268168@news.astraweb.com> |
| In reply to | #559520 |
On 03/05/2016 02:03 AM, HVAC wrote the screed: > BJ quacked >> We have all the information off that phone. But the FBI doesn't. >> > Stop the presses! (Well, if there were presses, I don't think many of > them are still running) > > This sounds as if this is the first time HVAC has told the truth! > ------------- > > Just a lucky guess Makes sense to me.
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| From | HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-03-05 03:59 -0800 |
| Subject | Re: unlock a phone |
| Message-ID | <55a77cff-234a-461d-9a4d-469ae320f0c5@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #559524 |
BJ quacked > > Just a lucky guess Makes sense to me. ------------ See? I told you. Just listen to me (and follow my orders as if they were the word of god) and soon the world will begin to make sense to you.
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| From | Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-03-05 05:22 -0800 |
| Subject | Re: unlock a phone |
| Message-ID | <21b97b5e-a5e7-4302-a6a4-57e3167ddb78@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #559524 |
On Saturday, March 5, 2016 at 2:33:28 AM UTC-5, benj wrote: > On 03/05/2016 02:03 AM, HVAC wrote the screed: > > BJ quacked > >> We have all the information off that phone. But the FBI doesn't. Let me, MapleLoops here, if a minute I might have... let me get this MetaData straight, no offense gayBoyHVAC, so we==everyone have this information, save the FBI? Who exactly are these FBI they then? Hmmm... Can I join the(y)TheThem @FBI#? Any job opening will suffice. > > Stop the presses! (Well, if there were presses, I don't think many of > > them are still running) > > > > This sounds as if this is the first time HVAC has told the truth! > > ------------- > > > > Just a lucky guess > > Makes sense to me. Even a broken clock used to be right twice per day, until they went digital. Wait what...?! I can turn off the AM/PM notice?! Who knew? How do I do that? I wonder how those SunDials work at night... in the darkness of it all... I suspicious that it's fake artificial MeonLighting@# (TM, SM, and BMW)? No no NO... I don't miss Jon Stewart of The Daily Show much, anymore. I can just watch/listen to the Cable News (AllAhHa Trump Channels 24/7) directly myself for the laughs. Comedy Central is just redundant. Now. https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=Jon+Stewart Enjo(y)... Salute… Cheers... Open your M I N D… it is Is IS 3PM someWhere. -- Mahipal “IPMM... माहिपाल ७६३८: FBI is a weight(y) anagram of FIB fib Fib.” No no NO... I am convoluting Physics, Philosophy, Poetry, Math (PPPM == 3PM).
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