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  unloock a phone The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-02-26 09:18 -0800
    Re: unloock a phone The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-02-26 22:08 -0800
      Re: unloock a phone The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-02-29 10:58 -0800
        Re: unloock a phone Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-03-01 14:25 +1100
          Re: unloock a phone benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2016-02-29 22:32 -0500
            Re: unloock a phone Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-03-01 22:00 +1100
            Re: unloock a phone HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-03-01 03:50 -0800
              Re: unloock a phone benj <none@gmail.com> - 2016-03-01 13:29 -0500
              Re: unloock a phone HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-03-01 14:19 -0800
              Re: unloock a phone HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-03-01 14:21 -0800
          Re: unlock a phone The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-03-04 11:27 -0800
            Re: unlock a phone The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-03-04 11:28 -0800
              Re: unlock a phone The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-03-04 11:29 -0800
                Re: unlock a phone The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-03-04 14:40 -0800
              Re: unlock a phone HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-03-04 15:31 -0800
                Re: unlock a phone benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2016-03-05 01:36 -0500
                  Re: unlock a phone HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-03-04 23:03 -0800
                    Re: unlock a phone benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2016-03-05 02:33 -0500
                      Re: unlock a phone HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-03-05 03:59 -0800
                      Re: unlock a phone Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2016-03-05 05:22 -0800
                        Re: unlock a phone HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-03-05 05:31 -0800
                          Re: unlock a phone Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2016-03-05 06:19 -0800
                          Re: unlock a phone benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2016-03-05 14:18 -0500
    Re: unloock a phone Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-02-28 12:08 +1100
      Re: unloock a phone Emigdio Sophronius <emigg@augustvisitors.org> - 2016-02-28 14:09 +0000
      Re: unloock a phone "Colonel Edmund J. Burke" <burkesgurlz@t-girls.com> - 2016-02-28 06:10 -0800
        Re: unloock a phone Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-02-29 11:24 +1100
          Re: unloock a phone "Colonel Edmund J. Burke" <burkesgurlz@t-girls.com> - 2016-02-28 16:50 -0800
      Re: unloock a phone Diesel <me@privacy.net> - 2016-02-29 19:52 +0000
    unloock a phone HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-02-28 06:41 -0800
      Re: unloock a phone benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2016-02-28 10:35 -0500
        Re: unloock a phone HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-02-28 08:30 -0800
          Re: unloock a phone benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2016-02-29 02:43 -0500
            Re: unloock a phone HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-02-29 04:16 -0800
              Re: unloock a phone Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2016-02-29 08:13 -0800
                Re: unloock a phone HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-02-29 08:34 -0800
                  Re: unloock a phone benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2016-02-29 14:47 -0500
                    Re: unloock a phone HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-02-29 13:26 -0800
                    Re: unloock a phone HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-02-29 13:26 -0800
                    Re: unloock a phone Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2016-02-29 15:37 -0800
              Re: unloock a phone benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2016-02-29 14:20 -0500
                Re: unloock a phone HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-02-29 11:37 -0800
                  Re: unloock a phone benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2016-02-29 16:04 -0500
                Re: unloock a phone HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-02-29 11:42 -0800
                  Re: unloock a phone benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2016-02-29 16:18 -0500
    [OT] "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2016-02-28 23:30 +0800
      Re: [OT] Wolffan <AKWolffan@gmail.com> - 2016-02-28 17:53 -0500
        Re: [OT] "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2016-02-29 19:17 +0800
      Re: [OT] The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-02-28 19:59 -0800
        Re: [OT] "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2016-02-29 19:19 +0800
          Re: [OT] The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-02-29 14:44 -0800
            Re: [OT] "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2016-03-01 18:53 +0800
              Re: [OT] The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-03-01 14:16 -0800
                Re: [OT] "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2016-03-02 21:46 +0800
                  Re: [OT] The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-03-02 18:24 -0800
                  Re: [OT] The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-03-02 22:22 -0800
    [OT] Go misc.phone.mobile.iphone "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2016-03-01 18:58 +0800

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#559534 — Re: unlock a phone

Maple Loops
> >> We have all the information off that phone. But the FBI doesn't. 

Let me, MapleLoops here, if a minute I might have... let me get this 
MetaData straight
-------------

That was a typo. I shouldn't have said 'we' have that info. I should have said 'they'.

Please excuse any confusion this may have caused.

And I'll take this opportunity to again tell you that I categorically deny currently working for any known government agency or organization

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#559552 — Re: unlock a phone

On Saturday, March 5, 2016 at 8:31:54 AM UTC-5, HVAC wrote:
> Maple Loops
> > >> We have all the information off that phone. But the FBI doesn't. 
> 
> Let me, MapleLoops here, if a minute I might have... let me get this 
> MetaData straight <trim prolific Mahipal's Insight, damn he's good!>
> -------------
> 
> That was a typo. I shouldn't have said 'we' have that info. I should
> have said 'they'.

HVAC, your one-liner works better with your initial we We WE. Not they.

So no job openings @FBI# either. Darn. I can pass for an Indian H1B dude?!

Many of us we and they here already comprehend the English Language --
written or otherwise -- well, without your HVAC twitterLengthOneLiners@#.

> Please excuse any confusion this may have caused.

I was confused long before you were born gayBoyHVAC, so no excuse matters.

Btw... At the rate you HVAC have been coming out, it would be impossible for
you HVAC to get back into the closet of vacuous Hoover FBI DisInformationIst.

> And I'll take this opportunity to again tell you that I
>categorically deny currently working for any known government agency
>or organization

I MapleLips always deny “writing and then posting to Usenet.” I capisce Fish(y).
Who reads ...youKnow? Nobody. Not we, not they... not at MI5 or NSA. CIA is it?

-- Mahipal “IPMM... माहिपाल ७६३८: Cinnamon Latte Cappuccino to go... ARIBA Squared!”

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#559618 — Re: unlock a phone

On 03/05/2016 08:31 AM, HVAC wrote:
> Maple Loops
>>>> We have all the information off that phone. But the FBI doesn't.
>
> Let me, MapleLoops here, if a minute I might have... let me get this
> MetaData straight
> -------------
>
> That was a typo. I shouldn't have said 'we' have that info. I should have said 'they'.
>
> Please excuse any confusion this may have caused.
>
> And I'll take this opportunity to again tell you that I categorically deny currently working for any known government agency or organization
>
He's retired now, Maple loops, but like the firehouse dog he still tries 
to pile on the engine when he hears a bell.

We all know what he meant by "we".

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#557441

On 27/02/2016 4:18 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
> you mean to tell me the F.B.I don't know how to unlock a phone?
>
>
>
> How stupid can they be????
>
>
> I mean...I know the FBI are just a bunch of wet behind the ears
> stupid guys...but i didn't know
> they didn't know how to unlock a phone.
>
> Couldn't they simply do a google search?
>
> Or some 3 year old on youtube could should show them how...
>
>
>
> you mean to tell me the F.B.I don't know how to unlock a phone?
>
>
> i mean...How stupid can they be????
>
>
>
> I mean I don't get it?
>
>
> I mean, if you want to bust out of jail, you do a google search for digging tunnels, right????
>
>
> I mean, a FBI guy should be able to go home and
> ask his 6 year old son "Can you unlock this for me??"
>
>
> Even a 3 year old knows you don't call APPLE!
>

You presumably think any competent hacker could get in.

The problem is that hacking involves the exploitation of mistakes in 
software, and that exploitation requires that the software be willing to 
interact with the hacker to some extent.

The phone is in a state where the only things it's willing to do is to 
accept and check a PIN, and presumably also to accept software updates 
signed by Apple. If that's all it will do, and trying multiple PINS will 
result in its being wiped, then either Apple has to sign a special 
version of the software, or the FBI are stuck.

There are possible hardware attacks, but their feasibility depends on 
exactly how the hardware is structured. In addition, a hardware attack 
risks destroying the electronics, and with it the very information the 
FBI wants to recover.

Sylvia.

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#557558

Sylvia Else wrote:

> The problem is that hacking involves the exploitation of mistakes in
> software, and that exploitation requires that the software be willing to
> interact with the hacker to some extent.

Absolutely correct. The sham is aimed to fool the public, on how nice good 
soul people and personnel the oligarch capitalists at Apple are. They 
don't open those crappy phones to anybody, now that they also have your 
fingerprints, your face, and even your iris. LOL.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iris_recognition

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#557559

Sylvia should stay in the kitchen, baking cookies and staying 
pregnant--leaving the computer hacking to real men.
LOL

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#557712

On 29/02/2016 1:10 AM, Colonel Edmund J. Burke wrote:
> Sylvia should stay in the kitchen, baking cookies and staying
> pregnant--leaving the computer hacking to real men.
> LOL
>
>
>

<sigh> Another demonstration of how poor trolling has become. I can 
remember the days when a troll could create any number of emotionally 
laiden responses. These days it's just "<sigh> Another...."

Sylvia.

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#557720

On 2/28/2016 4:24 PM, Sylvia Else wrote:
> On 29/02/2016 1:10 AM, Colonel Edmund J. Burke wrote:
>> Sylvia should stay in the kitchen, baking cookies and staying
>> pregnant--leaving the computer hacking to real men.
>> LOL
>>
>>
>>
>
> <sigh> Another demonstration of how poor trolling has become. I can
> remember the days when a troll could create any number of emotionally
> laiden responses. These days it's just "<sigh> Another...."
>
> Sylvia.


Which is why everyone responded to it.
LOL

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#557990

Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address>
news:djevknFhclsU1@mid.individual.net Sun, 28 Feb 2016 01:08:37 GMT
in alt.2600, wrote: 

> On 27/02/2016 4:18 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
>> you mean to tell me the F.B.I don't know how to unlock a phone?
>>
>>
>>
>> How stupid can they be????
>>
>>
>> I mean...I know the FBI are just a bunch of wet behind the ears
>> stupid guys...but i didn't know
>> they didn't know how to unlock a phone.
>>
>> Couldn't they simply do a google search?
>>
>> Or some 3 year old on youtube could should show them how...
>>
>>
>>
>> you mean to tell me the F.B.I don't know how to unlock a phone?
>>
>>
>> i mean...How stupid can they be????
>>
>>
>>
>> I mean I don't get it?
>>
>>
>> I mean, if you want to bust out of jail, you do a google search
>> for digging tunnels, right???? 
>>
>>
>> I mean, a FBI guy should be able to go home and
>> ask his 6 year old son "Can you unlock this for me??"
>>
>>
>> Even a 3 year old knows you don't call APPLE!
>>
> 
> You presumably think any competent hacker could get in.
> 
> The problem is that hacking involves the exploitation of mistakes
> in software, and that exploitation requires that the software be
> willing to interact with the hacker to some extent.
> 
> The phone is in a state where the only things it's willing to do
> is to accept and check a PIN, and presumably also to accept
> software updates signed by Apple. If that's all it will do, and
> trying multiple PINS will result in its being wiped, then either
> Apple has to sign a special version of the software, or the FBI
> are stuck. 
> 
> There are possible hardware attacks, but their feasibility depends
> on exactly how the hardware is structured. In addition, a hardware
> attack risks destroying the electronics, and with it the very
> information the FBI wants to recover.
> 
> Sylvia.

Very well stated. 
 



-- 
No officer, I don't know why you pulled me over...
I sure hope you do, though...
My loads late, and, the medication is wearing off.

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#557563

StarBoy says
you mean to tell me the F.B.I don't know how to unlock a phone?
-------------

The left hand doesn't always know what the right hand is doing. 

If you think for a second that every government agency can't get the info on this phone.... Well, they have been successful in keeping their secrets.

I'll put it like this... If the NSA doesn't have all the information on EVERY phone on the planet, I want my tax money returned ASAP.

Personally I sleep better at night knowing the NSA and other government agencies are on overwatch.

Thank you US government!

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#557572

On 02/28/2016 09:41 AM, HVAC wrote:
> StarBoy says
> you mean to tell me the F.B.I don't know how to unlock a phone?
> -------------
>
> The left hand doesn't always know what the right hand is doing.
>
> If you think for a second that every government agency can't get the info on this phone.... Well, they have been successful in keeping their secrets.
>
> I'll put it like this... If the NSA doesn't have all the information on EVERY phone on the planet, I want my tax money returned ASAP.
>
> Personally I sleep better at night knowing the NSA and other government agencies are on overwatch.
>
> Thank you US government!
>
HVAC believes that if you aren't doing any "homegrown" anti-sovie...er 
anti-government actions then you should have no worries about those in 
power recording everything you do and everything you say. Your 
government is God's representative on earth. Do you have any secrets 
from God? No. Hail Satan!

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#557584

BJ quacked
HVAC believes that if you aren't doing any "homegrown" anti-sovie...er 
anti-government actions then you should have no worries about those in 
power recording everything you do and everything you say. Your 
government is God's representative on earth. Do you have any secrets 
from God? No. Hail Satan! 
-------------

YOU don't have anything to hide, right BJ?  YOU don't want to see innocent people killed by terrorists, right BJ?

The government in its infinite mercy doesn't want to prosecute you because you smoke a little weed. We simply want to keep you safe is all.

Hail the Golden Calf

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#557805

On 02/28/2016 11:30 AM, HVAC wrote:
> BJ quacked
> HVAC believes that if you aren't doing any "homegrown" anti-sovie...er
> anti-government actions then you should have no worries about those in
> power recording everything you do and everything you say. Your
> government is God's representative on earth. Do you have any secrets
> from God? No. Hail Satan!
> -------------
>
> YOU don't have anything to hide, right BJ?  YOU don't want to see innocent people killed by terrorists, right BJ?
>
> The government in its infinite mercy doesn't want to prosecute you because you smoke a little weed. We simply want to keep you safe is all.
>
> Hail the Golden Calf

I don't do weed. I've never done drugs (save alcohol and caffeine) I 
still am in possession of all my brain cells (unlike you ... no 
offense). I've lived through the 60s and crashed with many stoners. I 
know what a mistake their idea that drugs makes you cool is. As for your 
love of slavery and dictatorship, Trump loves the KKK so it's no wonder 
you love Trump.

As for safety, I refer you to my namesake.

"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little 
temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."

Luckily the Libs at NPR agree with you and explain that this quote 
really doesn't mean what it says and doesn't apply today to modern 
technology like cellphones etc. that didn't exist back then.

When properly "explained" every used car is a great deal!

PS. For someone who is supposed to understand the occult, you sure are 
dumb (no offense). The reason the golden calf was a sin was not only 
because it was an idol, but rather because due to precession of the 
equinoxes it was a symbol for the previous age, namely that of Taurus, 
rather than of the next age which would be the proper symbol. Just as 
today when we are moving from the age of Pisces to the new age of 
Aquarius. Christianity was the symbol of Pisces and as that age closes 
so does it's symbol. Christianity, Harlow, is a symbol of suffering and 
imprisonment and ignorance of the Piscean age and will have no place in 
the coming age of Aquarius. Of course that will not fully be realized 
until the Tribulation project is completed and sheep are separated from 
the goats. What are you Harlow? A sheep or a goat?

Serious Question.

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#557822

BJ quacked
"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little 
temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." 
----------------

First of all, that was a misquote.

But no matter, where does it state that that you have some sort of innate right to plot against American citizens, secure in the knowledge that your plot is protected by the Constitution?

It's a foolish notion and you play the role of useful idiot to the terrorists by being a champion of this notion.

You're nothing but a lackey

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#557855

On Monday, February 29, 2016 at 7:16:22 AM UTC-5, HVAC wrote:
> BJ quacked
> "Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little 
> temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." 
> ----------------
> 
> First of all, that was a misquote.

So? Misquoted words still make sense. Learn to read, Idiot HVAC.

> But no matter, where does it state that that you have some sort of
> innate right to plot against American citizens, secure in the
> knowledge that your plot is protected by the Constitution?

American humans? Like there are no other kind of humans. PureBS.
Save the Americans! Wall off Mexicans. Bomb Canada. Screw UAE. Don't
even get me started on the cow worshipping Hindus! Milk, butter, what?!

> It's a foolish notion and you play the role of useful idiot to the
> terrorists by being a champion of this notion.

Schtick it It IT up your rear. Humanity does not begin or end with USA Americans.

> You're nothing but a lackey

You HVAC are nothing. Go away and stfu, you trolling Idiot. Tia.

-- Mahipal “IPMM... माहिपाल ७६३८: There are more wonderful Chinese on
   this one here Planet Earth than Penn(y)s in your pockets.”

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#557863

MapleLips says
> But no matter, where does it state that that you have some sort of 
> innate right to plot against American citizens, secure in the 
> knowledge that your plot is protected by the Constitution? 

American humans? Like there are no other kind of humans. PureBS. 
Save the Americans! Wall off Mexicans. Bomb Canada. Screw UAE. Don't 
even get me started on the cow worshipping Hindus! Milk, butter, what?! 
-----------

Mape Loops, this is a conversation between American citizens. You can shut the fuck up.

People are sick of the corruption of our Constitution by terrorists and their sympathizers. Again, there is nothing in it that gives terrorists some right to keep their terroristic plans secret. Anyone who believes they should have that right can go fuck themselves.

I'll line them up and dope slap them, 3 Stooges style

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#557984

On 02/29/2016 11:34 AM, HVAC wrote:
> MapleLips says
>> But no matter, where does it state that that you have some sort of
>> innate right to plot against American citizens, secure in the
>> knowledge that your plot is protected by the Constitution?
>
> American humans? Like there are no other kind of humans. PureBS.
> Save the Americans! Wall off Mexicans. Bomb Canada. Screw UAE. Don't
> even get me started on the cow worshipping Hindus! Milk, butter, what?!
> -----------
>
> Mape Loops, this is a conversation between American citizens. You can shut the fuck up.
>
> People are sick of the corruption of our Constitution by terrorists and their sympathizers. Again, there is nothing in it that gives terrorists some right to keep their terroristic plans secret. Anyone who believes they should have that right can go fuck themselves.
>
> I'll line them up and dope slap them, 3 Stooges style



Yeah, Maple Loops. Shut up! Alternate opinions are not allowed in a 
police state especially when supporting the constitution (now called 
anti-government views). When there is terrorism a police state is always 
needed to fight it. And if there is no terrorism, well that problem can 
always be solved too!

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#558057

BJ quacked
Yeah, Maple Loops. Shut up! Alternate opinions are not allowed in a 
police state especially when supporting the constitution (now called 
anti-government views). When there is terrorism a police state is always 
needed to fight it. And if there is no terrorism, well that problem can 
always be solved too! 
----------

ISIS is cheering your every word BJ

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#558058

BJ quacked
Yeah, Maple Loops. Shut up! Alternate opinions are not allowed in a 
police state especially when supporting the constitution (now called 
anti-government views). When there is terrorism a police state is always 
needed to fight it. And if there is no terrorism, well that problem can 
always be solved too! 
----------

ISIS is cheering your every word BJ

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#558094

On Monday, February 29, 2016 at 2:47:20 PM UTC-5, benj wrote:
> On 02/29/2016 11:34 AM, HVAC wrote:
> > MapleLips says
> >> But no matter, where does it state that that you have some sort of
> >> innate right to plot against American citizens, secure in the
> >> knowledge that your plot is protected by the Constitution?
> >
> > American humans? Like there are no other kind of humans. PureBS.
> > Save the Americans! Wall off Mexicans. Bomb Canada. Screw UAE. Don't
> > even get me started on the cow worshipping Hindus! Milk, butter, what?!
> > -----------
> >
> > Mape Loops, this is a conversation between American citizens. You
> >can shut the fuck up.

HVAC, I Mahipal am an American citizen. Wasn't that obvious from my idiocy?

> > People are sick of the corruption of our Constitution by
> >terrorists and their sympathizers. Again, there is nothing in it
> >that gives terrorists some right to keep their terroristic plans
> >secret. Anyone who believes they should have that right can go fuck
> >themselves.

The rights of Terrorists had to be written into the Constitution?!
Does it include a good recipe for Italian Spaghetti too?

> > I'll line them up and dope slap them, 3 Stooges style

Three Jews walk into a bar... Slap slap SLAP!
You pay the bill. No, you pay the Bill! NO ONE PAYS THE BILL?! Free beer!

> Yeah, Maple Loops. Shut up! Alternate opinions are not allowed in a 
> police state especially when supporting the constitution (now called 
> anti-government views). When there is terrorism a police state is always 
> needed to fight it. And if there is no terrorism, well that problem can 
> always be solved too!

Terrorists calling others terrorists.
Kooks calling others kooks.
HVAC posting to Usenet.
You believe, you believe, YOU BELIEVE...

-- Mahipal “IPMM... माहिपाल ७६३८: Maple Loops, he's so funn(y), cute too!”

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