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Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science.

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  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-06-02 12:16 -0700
    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-06-02 18:05 -0700
      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-06-02 22:08 -0700
        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-06-02 22:52 -0700
        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-06-03 06:08 -0400
          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2015-06-03 10:25 -0400
            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-06-05 07:25 -0400
          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-06-03 18:16 -0700
        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-06-03 03:58 -0700
          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-03 13:33 -0500
            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Malte Runz" <malte_runz@forgitit.dk> - 2015-06-03 23:48 +0200
              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-05 15:53 -0500
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Malte Runz" <malte_runz@forgitit.dk> - 2015-06-06 03:14 +0200
                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-06 11:52 -0500
                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Gray <savagegraycork@friends.gsl> - 2015-06-06 12:58 -0400
                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-07 09:35 -0500
                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Malte Runz" <malte_runz@forgitit.dk> - 2015-06-07 13:09 +0200
                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-06-07 08:42 -0400
                        For some, "God" is their hero, their aspiration, the dream. Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> - 2015-06-07 07:12 -0700
                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-07 09:38 -0500
                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-06-07 08:53 -0700
                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2015-06-07 11:06 -0500
                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-06-07 12:50 -0400
                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2015-06-08 01:52 -0400
                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Malte Runz" <malte_runz@forgitit.dk> - 2015-06-08 00:17 +0200
                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-06-07 19:07 -0400
                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-08 07:29 -0500
                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-07 09:38 -0500
                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Malte Runz" <malte_runz@forgitit.dk> - 2015-06-07 21:30 +0200
                      Besides me, no one here has defined the word "God". Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> - 2015-06-07 07:53 -0700
            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-06-03 18:37 -0700
              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2015-06-04 03:57 -0500
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-05 15:55 -0500
              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-05 15:54 -0500
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-06-05 17:47 -0700
                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-06 11:53 -0500
                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2015-06-06 20:25 +0000
                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Malte Runz" <malte_runz@forgitit.dk> - 2015-06-07 13:12 +0200
                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2015-06-07 06:53 -0500
                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-07 10:02 -0500
                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-07 10:01 -0500
                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-06-07 12:52 -0400
                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2015-06-07 22:27 +0000
                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-08 07:30 -0500
                              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2015-06-08 22:44 +0000
                                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-09 15:02 -0500
                                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2015-06-09 23:39 +0000
                                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2015-06-09 19:41 -0500
                                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-10 11:19 -0500
                                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2015-06-11 00:21 +0000
                                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-11 12:01 -0500
                                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Malte Runz" <malte_runz@forgitit.dk> - 2015-06-11 22:51 +0200
                                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-13 12:32 -0500
                                              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2015-06-13 23:27 +0000
                                                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Malte Runz" <malte_runz@forgitit.dk> - 2015-06-14 12:18 +0200
                                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2015-06-11 21:16 +0000
                                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2015-06-10 23:40 +0000
                                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-11 12:03 -0500
                                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Malte Runz" <malte_runz@forgitit.dk> - 2015-06-11 23:09 +0200
                                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-13 12:34 -0500
                                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2015-06-11 21:19 +0000
                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2015-06-07 22:22 +0000
                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-08 07:31 -0500
                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2015-06-08 22:47 +0000
                              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-09 15:02 -0500
                                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2015-06-09 23:42 +0000
                                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-10 11:19 -0500
                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Malte Runz" <malte_runz@forgitit.dk> - 2015-06-09 00:59 +0200
                              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-09 15:06 -0500
                                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Malte Runz" <malte_runz@forgitit.dk> - 2015-06-10 01:25 +0200
                                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-10 11:24 -0500
                                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Malte Runz" <malte_runz@forgitit.dk> - 2015-06-10 18:40 +0200
                                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-11 12:05 -0500
                                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2015-06-11 21:28 +0000
                                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2015-06-12 04:10 -0700
                                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2015-06-12 08:16 -0500
                                              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2015-06-12 11:42 -0400
                                                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-06-12 12:05 -0400
                                                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2015-06-12 19:41 -0400
                                                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Malte Runz" <malte_runz@forgitit.dk> - 2015-06-13 01:00 +0200
                                                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2015-06-12 20:58 -0400
                                                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-06-13 05:37 -0400
                                                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2015-06-13 13:49 -0400
                                                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-06-13 14:14 -0400
                                                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Malte Runz" <malte_runz@forgitit.dk> - 2015-06-13 12:17 +0200
                                                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-13 13:44 -0500
                                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Malte Runz" <malte_runz@forgitit.dk> - 2015-06-11 23:35 +0200
                                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-13 13:48 -0500
                                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2015-06-09 23:45 +0000
                                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2015-06-09 19:54 -0500
                                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-10 11:26 -0500
                                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2015-06-11 00:38 +0000
                                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2015-06-10 20:09 -0500
                                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-11 12:11 -0500
                                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-11 12:09 -0500
                                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2015-06-11 21:36 +0000
                                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2015-06-12 04:07 -0700
                                              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-13 14:00 -0500
                                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-13 13:53 -0500
                                              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2015-06-13 23:47 +0000
                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-07 09:55 -0500
                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2015-06-07 22:54 +0000
                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2015-06-07 18:10 -0700
                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-08 07:37 -0500
                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2015-06-08 23:00 +0000
                              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2015-06-08 18:41 -0500
                                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-09 15:16 -0500
                                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2015-06-10 00:00 +0000
                                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2015-06-09 20:00 -0500
                              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-09 15:14 -0500
                                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2015-06-10 00:16 +0000
                                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-10 11:31 -0500
                                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2015-06-11 00:49 +0000
                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-06-08 18:28 -0500
                              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-06-08 17:24 -0700
                                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-09 15:18 -0500
                                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-06-09 17:06 -0500
                                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-06-09 17:39 -0700
                                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-10 11:33 -0500
                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-06-08 19:11 -0700
                              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-09 15:19 -0500
                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-06-07 18:57 -0700
                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-06-07 19:45 -0700
                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2015-06-07 21:55 -0500
                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-06-07 23:16 -0700
                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2015-06-08 23:15 +0000
                              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2015-06-08 18:44 -0500
                              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-06-08 23:02 -0700
                                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-06-09 10:46 -0700
                                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-06-09 19:40 -0700
                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-08 07:39 -0500
                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-08 07:38 -0500
          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-06-04 11:30 -0700
            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-06-04 17:07 -0700
              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-05 15:58 -0500
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2015-06-05 22:28 +0000
                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-06 11:54 -0500
                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Malte Runz" <malte_runz@forgitit.dk> - 2015-06-07 13:15 +0200
                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-07 10:03 -0500
                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Malte Runz" <malte_runz@forgitit.dk> - 2015-06-07 21:40 +0200
                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-07 17:35 -0500
                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-07 17:34 -0500
                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-06-07 16:26 -0700
                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-08 07:42 -0500
                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2015-06-08 22:38 +0000
                              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-09 15:20 -0500
                                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2015-06-09 23:34 +0000
                                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-10 11:34 -0500
                                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2015-06-10 23:28 +0000
                                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-11 12:13 -0500
                                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2015-06-11 21:04 +0000
                                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2015-06-12 04:40 -0700
                                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2015-06-12 22:36 +0000
                                              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2015-06-12 20:45 -0700
                                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-13 14:01 -0500
                                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2015-06-13 23:24 +0000
                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-06-08 19:10 -0700
                              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-09 15:21 -0500
                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-08 13:26 -0500
            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-06-04 18:34 -0700
              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-06-04 21:19 -0700
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-05 15:59 -0500
            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-06-04 18:35 -0700
            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-05 15:56 -0500
      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-03 10:52 -0500
        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Malte Runz" <malte_runz@forgitit.dk> - 2015-06-03 20:01 +0200
          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-03 13:32 -0500
            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Malte Runz" <malte_runz@forgitit.dk> - 2015-06-03 23:56 +0200
              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-06-03 18:06 -0700
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Malte Runz" <malte_runz@forgitit.dk> - 2015-06-04 12:53 +0200
                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-06-04 11:35 -0700
                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-05 16:03 -0500
                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-06-05 17:39 -0700
                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Malte Runz" <malte_runz@forgitit.dk> - 2015-06-06 13:26 +0200
                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-06-06 04:42 -0700
                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Malte Runz" <malte_runz@forgitit.dk> - 2015-06-06 14:18 +0200
                              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-07 10:04 -0500
                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-06 11:57 -0500
                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-06 11:56 -0500
                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-06-04 19:53 -0700
                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Malte Runz" <malte_runz@forgitit.dk> - 2015-06-05 13:39 +0200
                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-06-05 05:58 -0700
                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-05 16:07 -0500
                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-06-05 17:46 -0400
                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-05 16:05 -0500
                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-06-05 17:33 -0700
                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-06 11:58 -0500
                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Malte Runz" <malte_runz@forgitit.dk> - 2015-06-06 03:45 +0200
                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-06 12:00 -0500
                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Malte Runz" <malte_runz@forgitit.dk> - 2015-06-07 13:19 +0200
                              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-07 10:20 -0500
                                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Malte Runz" <malte_runz@forgitit.dk> - 2015-06-07 21:48 +0200
                                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-07 17:38 -0500
                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-05 16:04 -0500
                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-06-05 17:34 -0700
                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-07 10:21 -0500
                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-05 16:02 -0500
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-05 16:01 -0500
                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-06-05 17:44 -0700
                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-06 12:01 -0500
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#499523

From	Smiler <smiler@jo.king>
Date	2015-06-11 21:19 +0000
Message-ID	<mlcu08$kr9$2@speranza.aioe.org>
In reply to	#499432

On Thu, 11 Jun 2015 12:03:00 -0500, duke wrote:

> On Wed, 10 Jun 2015 23:40:47 +0000 (UTC), Smiler <smiler@jo.king> wrote:
> 
>>>> Evidence is in the eyes of the beholder, not what you think.
>>>>Bullshit. Evidence is that which is evident to anyone, believer or
>>>>not.
> 
>>No answer, puke?
> 
> Show me your evidence that there is no God.

I'll do that immediately after you show me your evidence that there are no 
leprechauns.

> *****
> "Paedophilia is the most perfect form of Prayer."
> Pope Paul VI *****

-- 
Smiler, The godless one.
aa #2279
Gods are all tailored to order. They are made 
to exactly fit the prejudices of the believer.

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#498499

From	Smiler <smiler@jo.king>
Date	2015-06-07 22:22 +0000
Message-ID	<ml2g6q$foq$4@speranza.aioe.org>
In reply to	#498370

On Sun, 07 Jun 2015 13:12:52 +0200, Malte Runz wrote:

> "Smiler"  skrev i meddelelsen news:mkvl06$4mi$1@speranza.aioe.org...
>>
>> On Sat, 06 Jun 2015 11:53:54 -0500, duke wrote:
> 
> (snip)
> 
>> > Atheism is a decision.
>>
>> When did _you_ decide to believe in god?
> 
> Show me a person, who says he can decide to believe in something, and
> I'll show you a person who is faking it.
> 
> (snip)

But lying puke _will_ claim he did decide to believe.

-- 
Smiler, The godless one.
aa #2279
Gods are all tailored to order. They are made 
to exactly fit the prejudices of the believer.

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#498634

From	duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net>
Date	2015-06-08 07:31 -0500
Message-ID	<ln2bna50lfa6np1igiia3k51lgb9h0m3k3@4ax.com>
In reply to	#498499

On Sun, 7 Jun 2015 22:22:18 +0000 (UTC), Smiler <smiler@jo.king> wrote:

>On Sun, 07 Jun 2015 13:12:52 +0200, Malte Runz wrote:
>
>> "Smiler"  skrev i meddelelsen news:mkvl06$4mi$1@speranza.aioe.org...
>>>
>>> On Sat, 06 Jun 2015 11:53:54 -0500, duke wrote:
>> 
>> (snip)
>> 
>>> > Atheism is a decision.
>>>
>>> When did _you_ decide to believe in god?
>> 
>> Show me a person, who says he can decide to believe in something, and
>> I'll show you a person who is faking it.
>> 
>> (snip)
>
>But lying puke _will_ claim he did decide to believe.

No, those are atheist wannabe words - decide to believe.

When you believe, you believe. 

the dukester, American-American

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Pope Paul VI
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#498779

From	Smiler <smiler@jo.king>
Date	2015-06-08 22:47 +0000
Message-ID	<ml561b$p46$8@speranza.aioe.org>
In reply to	#498634

On Mon, 08 Jun 2015 07:31:26 -0500, duke wrote:

> On Sun, 7 Jun 2015 22:22:18 +0000 (UTC), Smiler <smiler@jo.king> wrote:
> 
>>On Sun, 07 Jun 2015 13:12:52 +0200, Malte Runz wrote:
>>
>>> "Smiler"  skrev i meddelelsen news:mkvl06$4mi$1@speranza.aioe.org...
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, 06 Jun 2015 11:53:54 -0500, duke wrote:
>>> 
>>> (snip)
>>> 
>>>> > Atheism is a decision.
>>>>
>>>> When did _you_ decide to believe in god?
>>> 
>>> Show me a person, who says he can decide to believe in something, and
>>> I'll show you a person who is faking it.
>>> 
>>> (snip)
>>
>>But lying puke _will_ claim he did decide to believe.
> 
> No, those are atheist wannabe words - decide to believe.
> 
> When you believe, you believe.

And when you don't believe, you don't believe. No decision needed.

> *****
> "Paedophilia is the most perfect form of Prayer."
> Pope Paul VI *****

-- 
Smiler, The godless one.
aa #2279
Gods are all tailored to order. They are made 
to exactly fit the prejudices of the believer.

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#499008

From	duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net>
Date	2015-06-09 15:02 -0500
Message-ID	<8ihena1dngth1k61bufohd48sod2ujrt1u@4ax.com>
In reply to	#498779

On Mon, 8 Jun 2015 22:47:07 +0000 (UTC), Smiler <smiler@jo.king> wrote:

>On Mon, 08 Jun 2015 07:31:26 -0500, duke wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 7 Jun 2015 22:22:18 +0000 (UTC), Smiler <smiler@jo.king> wrote:
>> 
>>>On Sun, 07 Jun 2015 13:12:52 +0200, Malte Runz wrote:
>>>
>>>> "Smiler"  skrev i meddelelsen news:mkvl06$4mi$1@speranza.aioe.org...
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, 06 Jun 2015 11:53:54 -0500, duke wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> (snip)
>>>> 
>>>>> > Atheism is a decision.
>>>>>
>>>>> When did _you_ decide to believe in god?
>>>> 
>>>> Show me a person, who says he can decide to believe in something, and
>>>> I'll show you a person who is faking it.
>>>> 
>>>> (snip)
>>>
>>>But lying puke _will_ claim he did decide to believe.
>> 
>> No, those are atheist wannabe words - decide to believe.
>> 
>> When you believe, you believe.
>
>And when you don't believe, you don't believe. No decision needed.

Exactly, and you will be judged by God accordingly.

the dukester, American-American

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Pope Paul VI
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#499104

From	Smiler <smiler@jo.king>
Date	2015-06-09 23:42 +0000
Message-ID	<ml7tlc$3kd$3@speranza.aioe.org>
In reply to	#499008

On Tue, 09 Jun 2015 15:02:36 -0500, duke wrote:

> On Mon, 8 Jun 2015 22:47:07 +0000 (UTC), Smiler <smiler@jo.king> wrote:
> 
>>On Mon, 08 Jun 2015 07:31:26 -0500, duke wrote:
>>
>>> On Sun, 7 Jun 2015 22:22:18 +0000 (UTC), Smiler <smiler@jo.king>
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>>On Sun, 07 Jun 2015 13:12:52 +0200, Malte Runz wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> "Smiler"  skrev i meddelelsen news:mkvl06$4mi$1@speranza.aioe.org...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sat, 06 Jun 2015 11:53:54 -0500, duke wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> (snip)
>>>>> 
>>>>>> > Atheism is a decision.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> When did _you_ decide to believe in god?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Show me a person, who says he can decide to believe in something,
>>>>> and I'll show you a person who is faking it.
>>>>> 
>>>>> (snip)
>>>>
>>>>But lying puke _will_ claim he did decide to believe.
>>> 
>>> No, those are atheist wannabe words - decide to believe.
>>> 
>>> When you believe, you believe.
>>
>>And when you don't believe, you don't believe. No decision needed.
> 
> Exactly, and you will be judged by God accordingly.

That would be the supposed god that you have zero evidence for.
Why should I believe without any evidence?
I'm not a moron like you.

> *****
> "Paedophilia is the most perfect form of Prayer."
> Pope Paul VI *****

-- 
Smiler, The godless one.
aa #2279
Gods are all tailored to order. They are made 
to exactly fit the prejudices of the believer.

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#499193

From	duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net>
Date	2015-06-10 11:19 -0500
Message-ID	<gsogna5rpfdq9ai6r285lfveuffv78mvi4@4ax.com>
In reply to	#499104

On Tue, 9 Jun 2015 23:42:36 +0000 (UTC), Smiler <smiler@jo.king> wrote:

>On Tue, 09 Jun 2015 15:02:36 -0500, duke wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 8 Jun 2015 22:47:07 +0000 (UTC), Smiler <smiler@jo.king> wrote:
>> 
>>>On Mon, 08 Jun 2015 07:31:26 -0500, duke wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Sun, 7 Jun 2015 22:22:18 +0000 (UTC), Smiler <smiler@jo.king>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>>On Sun, 07 Jun 2015 13:12:52 +0200, Malte Runz wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> "Smiler"  skrev i meddelelsen news:mkvl06$4mi$1@speranza.aioe.org...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sat, 06 Jun 2015 11:53:54 -0500, duke wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> (snip)
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> > Atheism is a decision.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> When did _you_ decide to believe in god?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Show me a person, who says he can decide to believe in something,
>>>>>> and I'll show you a person who is faking it.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> (snip)
>>>>>
>>>>>But lying puke _will_ claim he did decide to believe.
>>>> 
>>>> No, those are atheist wannabe words - decide to believe.
>>>> 
>>>> When you believe, you believe.
>>>
>>>And when you don't believe, you don't believe. No decision needed.
>> 
>> Exactly, and you will be judged by God accordingly.
>
>That would be the supposed god that you have zero evidence for.
>Why should I believe without any evidence?
>I'm not a moron like you.

Right, you're your own type of moron.

the dukester, American-American

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#498780

From	"Malte Runz" <malte_runz@forgitit.dk>
Date	2015-06-09 00:59 +0200
Message-ID	<55761e3a$0$23219$edfadb0f@dtext01.news.tele.dk>
In reply to	#498634

"duke"  skrev i meddelelsen
news:ln2bna50lfa6np1igiia3k51lgb9h0m3k3@4ax.com...
>
> On Sun, 7 Jun 2015 22:22:18 +0000 (UTC), Smiler <smiler@jo.king> wrote:
>
> >On Sun, 07 Jun 2015 13:12:52 +0200, Malte Runz wrote:
> >
> >> "Smiler"  skrev i meddelelsen news:mkvl06$4mi$1@speranza.aioe.org...
> >>>
> >>> On Sat, 06 Jun 2015 11:53:54 -0500, duke wrote:
> >>
> >> (snip)
> >>
> >>> > Atheism is a decision.
> >>>
> >>> When did _you_ decide to believe in god?
> >>
> >> Show me a person, who says he can decide to believe in something, and
> >> I'll show you a person who is faking it.
> >>
> >> (snip)
> >
> >But lying puke _will_ claim he did decide to believe.
>
> No, those are atheist wannabe words - decide to believe.

You started it when you wrote "Atheism is a decision". What you're saying is
'the atheist decides to not believe'. You need to make atheists responsible
for their lack of belief, it has to be a deliberate choice, for you to be
able to justify the cruelty of eternal torture your god enforces.

>
> When you believe, you believe.

True, and when you don't believe, you can't force yourself to believe, which
I believe was the point Smiler was making.

-- 
Malte Runz

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#499011

From	duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net>
Date	2015-06-09 15:06 -0500
Message-ID	<fjhena514bi02ko53b7q9nqje9cg7508al@4ax.com>
In reply to	#498780

On Tue, 9 Jun 2015 00:59:06 +0200, "Malte Runz" <malte_runz@forgitit.dk> wrote:

>"duke"  skrev i meddelelsen
>news:ln2bna50lfa6np1igiia3k51lgb9h0m3k3@4ax.com...
>>
>> On Sun, 7 Jun 2015 22:22:18 +0000 (UTC), Smiler <smiler@jo.king> wrote:
>>
>> >On Sun, 07 Jun 2015 13:12:52 +0200, Malte Runz wrote:
>> >
>> >> "Smiler"  skrev i meddelelsen news:mkvl06$4mi$1@speranza.aioe.org...
>> >>>
>> >>> On Sat, 06 Jun 2015 11:53:54 -0500, duke wrote:
>> >>
>> >> (snip)
>> >>
>> >>> > Atheism is a decision.
>> >>>
>> >>> When did _you_ decide to believe in god?
>> >>
>> >> Show me a person, who says he can decide to believe in something, and
>> >> I'll show you a person who is faking it.
>> >>
>> >> (snip)
>> >
>> >But lying puke _will_ claim he did decide to believe.
>>
>> No, those are atheist wannabe words - decide to believe.

>You started it when you wrote "Atheism is a decision". 

Of course it is.  YOU choose to reject the evidence.

>What you're saying is
>'the atheist decides to not believe'. 

I say "rejects the evidence".

>You need to make atheists responsible
>for their lack of belief, it has to be a deliberate choice, for you to be
>able to justify the cruelty of eternal torture your god enforces.

You justify your own eternal fate, I don't do it for you.

>> When you believe, you believe.

>True, and when you don't believe, you can't force yourself to believe, which
>I believe was the point Smiler was making.

And if finding the EVIDENCE unconvincing, you are an agnostic, not an atheist.
Technically it's impossible to be an atheist is evidence exists.

the dukester, American-American

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#499101

From	"Malte Runz" <malte_runz@forgitit.dk>
Date	2015-06-10 01:25 +0200
Message-ID	<557775d2$0$23216$edfadb0f@dtext01.news.tele.dk>
In reply to	#499011

"duke"  skrev i meddelelsen 
news:fjhena514bi02ko53b7q9nqje9cg7508al@4ax.com...
>
> On Tue, 9 Jun 2015 00:59:06 +0200, "Malte Runz" <malte_runz@forgitit.dk> 
> wrote:
>
> >"duke"  skrev i meddelelsen
> >news:ln2bna50lfa6np1igiia3k51lgb9h0m3k3@4ax.com...
> >>
> >> On Sun, 7 Jun 2015 22:22:18 +0000 (UTC), Smiler <smiler@jo.king> wrote:
> >>
> >> >On Sun, 07 Jun 2015 13:12:52 +0200, Malte Runz wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> "Smiler"  skrev i meddelelsen news:mkvl06$4mi$1@speranza.aioe.org...
> >> >>>
> >> >>> On Sat, 06 Jun 2015 11:53:54 -0500, duke wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> (snip)
> >> >>
> >> >>> > Atheism is a decision.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> When did _you_ decide to believe in god?
> >> >>
> >> >> Show me a person, who says he can decide to believe in something, 
> >> >> and
> >> >> I'll show you a person who is faking it.
> >> >>
> >> >> (snip)
> >> >
> >> >But lying puke _will_ claim he did decide to believe.
> >>
> >> No, those are atheist wannabe words - decide to believe.
>
> >You started it when you wrote "Atheism is a decision".
>
> Of course it is. ...

Just like you didn't choose to believe in God, I didn't choose not to 
believe. I simply can't help it.


> ... YOU choose to reject the evidence.

Why do you choose to reject all the evidence for Santa?

>
> >What you're saying is
> >'the atheist decides to not believe'.
>
> I say "rejects the evidence".

That's even worse. You assume we accept that ancient myths and pseudo 
scientific mumbo jumbo and declarations of faith is evidence. I reject the 
whispers in your heart as evidence.

>
> >You need to make atheists responsible
> >for their lack of belief, it has to be a deliberate choice, for you to be
> >able to justify the cruelty of eternal torture your god enforces.
>
> You justify your own eternal fate, I don't do it for you.

Of course not. That would make you as guilty as God. The only way it works 
for you, is if the sinners themselves want to go to Hell.

>
> >> When you believe, you believe.
>
> >True, and when you don't believe, you can't force yourself to believe, 
> >which
> >I believe was the point Smiler was making.
>
> And if finding the EVIDENCE unconvincing, you are an agnostic, not an 
> atheist.
> Technically it's impossible to be an atheist is evidence exists.

There is no real evidence. The Bible is the sole source of information on 
God you have. One single book. The rest of your 'knowledge' is all just made 
up.



-- 
Malte Runz

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#499194

From	duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net>
Date	2015-06-10 11:24 -0500
Message-ID	<jtogna9hlmge3f9nk3799ispbvaghbq8io@4ax.com>
In reply to	#499101

On Wed, 10 Jun 2015 01:25:07 +0200, "Malte Runz" <malte_runz@forgitit.dk> wrote:

>"duke"  skrev i meddelelsen 
>news:fjhena514bi02ko53b7q9nqje9cg7508al@4ax.com...
>>
>> On Tue, 9 Jun 2015 00:59:06 +0200, "Malte Runz" <malte_runz@forgitit.dk> 
>> wrote:
>>
>> >"duke"  skrev i meddelelsen
>> >news:ln2bna50lfa6np1igiia3k51lgb9h0m3k3@4ax.com...
>> >>
>> >> On Sun, 7 Jun 2015 22:22:18 +0000 (UTC), Smiler <smiler@jo.king> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >On Sun, 07 Jun 2015 13:12:52 +0200, Malte Runz wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> "Smiler"  skrev i meddelelsen news:mkvl06$4mi$1@speranza.aioe.org...
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> On Sat, 06 Jun 2015 11:53:54 -0500, duke wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> (snip)
>> >> >>
>> >> >>> > Atheism is a decision.
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> When did _you_ decide to believe in god?
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Show me a person, who says he can decide to believe in something, 
>> >> >> and
>> >> >> I'll show you a person who is faking it.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> (snip)
>> >> >
>> >> >But lying puke _will_ claim he did decide to believe.
>> >>
>> >> No, those are atheist wannabe words - decide to believe.
>>
>> >You started it when you wrote "Atheism is a decision".
>>
>> Of course it is. ...
>
>Just like you didn't choose to believe in God, I didn't choose not to 
>believe. I simply can't help it.

I didn't "choose not to believe".  I had trouble accepting the evidence.  But
when I did, I went all in.

>> ... YOU choose to reject the evidence.
>Why do you choose to reject all the evidence for Santa?

No gain.

>> >What you're saying is
>> >'the atheist decides to not believe'.

>> I say "rejects the evidence".

>That's even worse. You assume we accept that ancient myths and pseudo 
>scientific mumbo jumbo and declarations of faith is evidence. I reject the 
>whispers in your heart as evidence.

They're mine.  You can't have them.

>> >You need to make atheists responsible
>> >for their lack of belief, it has to be a deliberate choice, for you to be
>> >able to justify the cruelty of eternal torture your god enforces.
>>
>> You justify your own eternal fate, I don't do it for you.

>Of course not. That would make you as guilty as God. The only way it works 
>for you, is if the sinners themselves want to go to Hell.

That's between you and God, and you don't get a vote that counts.

>> >> When you believe, you believe.

>> >True, and when you don't believe, you can't force yourself to believe, 
>> >which
>> >I believe was the point Smiler was making.

>> And if finding the EVIDENCE unconvincing, you are an agnostic, not an 
>> atheist.
>> Technically it's impossible to be an atheist is evidence exists.

>There is no real evidence. 

Of course there is.  That's why you are a natural born loser - by choice.

>The Bible is the sole source of information on 
>God you have. One single book. The rest of your 'knowledge' is all just made 
>up.

Man came long before a book came.

the dukester, American-American

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#499211

From	"Malte Runz" <malte_runz@forgitit.dk>
Date	2015-06-10 18:40 +0200
Message-ID	<5578688e$0$23219$edfadb0f@dtext01.news.tele.dk>
In reply to	#499194

"duke"  skrev i meddelelsen
news:jtogna9hlmge3f9nk3799ispbvaghbq8io@4ax.com...
>
> On Wed, 10 Jun 2015 01:25:07 +0200, "Malte Runz" <malte_runz@forgitit.dk>
> wrote:
>
> >"duke"  skrev i meddelelsen
> >news:fjhena514bi02ko53b7q9nqje9cg7508al@4ax.com...
> >>
> >> On Tue, 9 Jun 2015 00:59:06 +0200, "Malte Runz"
> >> <malte_runz@forgitit.dk>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> >"duke"  skrev i meddelelsen
> >> >news:ln2bna50lfa6np1igiia3k51lgb9h0m3k3@4ax.com...
> >> >>
> >> >> On Sun, 7 Jun 2015 22:22:18 +0000 (UTC), Smiler <smiler@jo.king>
> >> >> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> >On Sun, 07 Jun 2015 13:12:52 +0200, Malte Runz wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> >> "Smiler"  skrev i meddelelsen
> >> >> >> news:mkvl06$4mi$1@speranza.aioe.org...
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>> On Sat, 06 Jun 2015 11:53:54 -0500, duke wrote:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> (snip)
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>> > Atheism is a decision.
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>> When did _you_ decide to believe in god?
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Show me a person, who says he can decide to believe in something,
> >> >> >> and
> >> >> >> I'll show you a person who is faking it.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> (snip)
> >> >> >
> >> >> >But lying puke _will_ claim he did decide to believe.
> >> >>
> >> >> No, those are atheist wannabe words - decide to believe.
> >>
> >> >You started it when you wrote "Atheism is a decision".
> >>
> >> Of course it is. ...
> >
> >Just like you didn't choose to believe in God, I didn't choose not to
> >believe. I simply can't help it.
>
> I didn't "choose not to believe". ...

Never said you did. I fully accept that your belief it not a choice.
Something convinced you that God is real, and that's why you believe.
Equally is my non-belief not a choice either.

> ... I had trouble accepting the evidence.  But
> when I did, I went all in.


And now you're full of it.

(snip)


> >> And if finding the EVIDENCE unconvincing, you are an agnostic, not an
> >> atheist.
> >> Technically it's impossible to be an atheist is evidence exists.
>
> >There is no real evidence.
>
> Of course there is. ...

There is only the Bible and people who believe the words in the Bible. I'm
not one of them.

> ... That's why you are a natural born loser - by choice.
>
> >The Bible is the sole source of information on
> >God you have. One single book. The rest of your 'knowledge' is all just
> >made
> >up.
>
> Man came long before a book came.

And man came long before God did.



-- 
Malte Runz

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#499433

From	duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net>
Date	2015-06-11 12:05 -0500
Message-ID	<uqfjnah193tcbd3vtcner136n1jijvccjr@4ax.com>
In reply to	#499211

On Wed, 10 Jun 2015 18:40:48 +0200, "Malte Runz" <malte_runz@forgitit.dk> wrote:

>> I didn't "choose not to believe". ...

>Never said you did. I fully accept that your belief it not a choice.
>Something convinced you that God is real, and that's why you believe.
>Equally is my non-belief not a choice either.

Then why don't you believe?

>> ... I had trouble accepting the evidence.  But
>> when I did, I went all in.
>And now you're full of it.

Why don't you believe?

>> >> And if finding the EVIDENCE unconvincing, you are an agnostic, not an
>> >> atheist.
>> >> Technically it's impossible to be an atheist is evidence exists.
>>
>> >There is no real evidence.
>>
>> Of course there is. ...
>There is only the Bible and people who believe the words in the Bible. I'm
>not one of them.

Where is you evidence that it is not true.  

>> ... That's why you are a natural born loser - by choice.

>> >The Bible is the sole source of information on
>> >God you have. One single book. The rest of your 'knowledge' is all just
>> >made
>> >up.
>>
>> Man came long before a book came.
>And man came long before God did.

No, not a chance of that.

the dukester, American-American

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#499525

From	Smiler <smiler@jo.king>
Date	2015-06-11 21:28 +0000
Message-ID	<mlcuh9$mcl$1@speranza.aioe.org>
In reply to	#499433

On Thu, 11 Jun 2015 12:05:40 -0500, duke wrote:

> On Wed, 10 Jun 2015 18:40:48 +0200, "Malte Runz"
> <malte_runz@forgitit.dk> wrote:
> 
>>> I didn't "choose not to believe". ...
> 
>>Never said you did. I fully accept that your belief it not a choice.
>>Something convinced you that God is real, and that's why you believe.
>>Equally is my non-belief not a choice either.
> 
> Then why don't you believe?

Lack of any evidence for your supposed god character provides no reason to 
believe.

>>> ... I had trouble accepting the evidence.  But when I did, I went all
>>> in.
>>And now you're full of it.
> 
> Why don't you believe?

Lack of any evidence for your supposed god character provides no reason to 
believe.
 
>>> >> And if finding the EVIDENCE unconvincing, you are an agnostic, not
>>> >> an atheist.
>>> >> Technically it's impossible to be an atheist is evidence exists.
>>>
>>> >There is no real evidence.
>>>
>>> Of course there is. ...
>>There is only the Bible and people who believe the words in the Bible.
>>I'm not one of them.
> 
> Where is you evidence that it is not true.

Lack of any historical or archaeological confirmation.

>>> ... That's why you are a natural born loser - by choice.
> 
>>> >The Bible is the sole source of information on God you have. One
>>> >single book. The rest of your 'knowledge' is all just made up.
>>>
>>> Man came long before a book came.
>>And man came long before God did.
> 
> No, not a chance of that.

It's quite clear from your posts that your god is made in your own image.

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#499589

From	Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com>
Date	2015-06-12 04:10 -0700
Message-ID	<hlwdjsd2-D900C4.04101312062015@news.giganews.com>
In reply to	#499525

In article <mlcuh9$mcl$1@speranza.aioe.org>, Smiler <smiler@jo.king> 
wrote:

> On Thu, 11 Jun 2015 12:05:40 -0500, duke wrote:
> 
> > On Wed, 10 Jun 2015 18:40:48 +0200, "Malte Runz"
> > <malte_runz@forgitit.dk> wrote:
> > 
> >>> I didn't "choose not to believe". ...
> > 
> >>Never said you did. I fully accept that your belief it not a choice.
> >>Something convinced you that God is real, and that's why you believe.
> >>Equally is my non-belief not a choice either.
> > 
> > Then why don't you believe?
> 
> Lack of any evidence for your supposed god character provides no reason to 
> believe.
> 
> >>> ... I had trouble accepting the evidence.  But when I did, I went all
> >>> in.
> >>And now you're full of it.
> > 
> > Why don't you believe?
> 
> Lack of any evidence for your supposed god character provides no reason to 
> believe.

Ditto. I really truly have absolutely no reason at all to believe in ANY 
god. I can't believe in something that have no reason to believe in.


> >>> >> And if finding the EVIDENCE unconvincing, you are an agnostic, not
> >>> >> an atheist.
> >>> >> Technically it's impossible to be an atheist is evidence exists.
> >>>
> >>> >There is no real evidence.
> >>>
> >>> Of course there is. ...
> >>There is only the Bible and people who believe the words in the Bible.
> >>I'm not one of them.
> > 
> > Where is you evidence that it is not true.
> 
> Lack of any historical or archaeological confirmation.

And not-far-from direct evidence of adaptation of previous 
civilizations' myths and legends.

-- 

JD

Being open-minded is merely the willingness to consider
evidence, not the willingness to accept claims without any.

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#499595

From	Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net>
Date	2015-06-12 08:16 -0500
Message-ID	<dollnatq7ndm0nnqbn593i56ifun6geec5@4ax.com>
In reply to	#499589

On Fri, 12 Jun 2015 04:10:13 -0700, Jeanne Douglas
<hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote:

>In article <mlcuh9$mcl$1@speranza.aioe.org>, Smiler <smiler@jo.king> 
>wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 11 Jun 2015 12:05:40 -0500, duke wrote:
>> 
>> > On Wed, 10 Jun 2015 18:40:48 +0200, "Malte Runz"
>> > <malte_runz@forgitit.dk> wrote:
>> > 
>> >>> I didn't "choose not to believe". ...
>> > 
>> >>Never said you did. I fully accept that your belief it not a choice.
>> >>Something convinced you that God is real, and that's why you believe.
>> >>Equally is my non-belief not a choice either.
>> > 
>> > Then why don't you believe?

What part of "when one has no reason to believe something, then one
doesn't", is Liarboi Puke pretending he doesn't understand, even
though we've been explaining it to him for something like twenty
years?

>> Lack of any evidence for your supposed god character provides no reason to 
>> believe.
>> 
>> >>> ... I had trouble accepting the evidence.  But when I did, I went all
>> >>> in.
>> >>And now you're full of it.
>> > 
>> > Why don't you believe?

Can't Liarboi Puke read?

>> Lack of any evidence for your supposed god character provides no reason to 
>> believe.
>
>Ditto. I really truly have absolutely no reason at all to believe in ANY 
>god. I can't believe in something that have no reason to believe in.

Part of the problem is that too many theists don't realise that they
believe because of childhood brainwashing - which atheists either
didn't have, it didn't take, or they grew out it just as Liarboi Puke
grew out of Santa Claus and the Easter Bunny.

So they imagine it is obvious, self-evident, etc because they believe
without understanding why.

And that it is equally obvious to everybody else.

>> >>> >> And if finding the EVIDENCE 

LIAR.

>> >>> >>                                                  unconvincing, 

Liar.

>> >>> >>                                                                         you are an agnostic, not
>> >>> >> an atheist.

Liar.

The two are orthogonal - one is about whether or not somebody is
theist, and the other about knowledge of something that is only in the
theist's worldview.

>> >>> >> Technically it's impossible to be an atheist is evidence exists.

None of which the proven serial liar has ever provided.

>> >>> >There is no real evidence.
>> >>>
>> >>> Of course there is. ...

So provide it instead of repeating the same lies about both it and us.

>> >>There is only the Bible and people who believe the words in the Bible.
>> >>I'm not one of them.

Exactly.

>> > Where is you evidence that it is not true.

Not our problem - it's up those who imagine it is, and cite it as
"proof" for anything, to demonstrate that it is.

But it clearly isn't - from Genesis creation to the virgin birth and
the resurrection.

>> Lack of any historical or archaeological confirmation.
>
>And not-far-from direct evidence of adaptation of previous 
>civilizations' myths and legends.

Not to mention its historical inaccuracies and its cherry-picked
prophecies which weren't taken from the Hebrew original but a Greek
translation - including translation errors that form  the foundation
of Christianity, like the virgin birth, what the Jews expected their
Messiah to be, etc.

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#499613

From	benj <nobody@gmail.com>
Date	2015-06-12 11:42 -0400
Message-ID	<O5Dex.19737$ZJ.18496@fx16.iad>
In reply to	#499595

On 06/12/2015 09:16 AM, Christopher A. Lee wrote:
> On Fri, 12 Jun 2015 04:10:13 -0700, Jeanne Douglas
> <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote:
>
>> In article <mlcuh9$mcl$1@speranza.aioe.org>, Smiler <smiler@jo.king>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On Thu, 11 Jun 2015 12:05:40 -0500, duke wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Wed, 10 Jun 2015 18:40:48 +0200, "Malte Runz"
>>>> <malte_runz@forgitit.dk> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>> I didn't "choose not to believe". ...
>>>>
>>>>> Never said you did. I fully accept that your belief it not a choice.
>>>>> Something convinced you that God is real, and that's why you believe.
>>>>> Equally is my non-belief not a choice either.
>>>>
>>>> Then why don't you believe?
>
> What part of "when one has no reason to believe something, then one
> doesn't", is Liarboi Puke pretending he doesn't understand, even
> though we've been explaining it to him for something like twenty
> years?
>
>>> Lack of any evidence for your supposed god character provides no reason to
>>> believe.
>>>
>>>>>> ... I had trouble accepting the evidence.  But when I did, I went all
>>>>>> in.
>>>>> And now you're full of it.
>>>>
>>>> Why don't you believe?
>
> Can't Liarboi Puke read?
>
>>> Lack of any evidence for your supposed god character provides no reason to
>>> believe.
>>
>> Ditto. I really truly have absolutely no reason at all to believe in ANY
>> god. I can't believe in something that have no reason to believe in.
>
> Part of the problem is that too many theists don't realise that they
> believe because of childhood brainwashing - which atheists either
> didn't have, it didn't take, or they grew out it just as Liarboi Puke
> grew out of Santa Claus and the Easter Bunny.
>
> So they imagine it is obvious, self-evident, etc because they believe
> without understanding why.
>
> And that it is equally obvious to everybody else.

Sounds like the perfect description of you fundi atheists. You all just 
believe without understanding why or examining any evidence. But then 
Atheism is such a perfect fit to leftist politics that truth or evidence 
has to take a backseat as it always does in politics.

Atheism is just one more example of science today succumbing to 
political control. Comes the revolution when the workers rise up to 
smash capitalism, atheism will be the state religion of EVERYONE!

Hallelujah.


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#499615

From	HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com>
Date	2015-06-12 12:05 -0400
Message-ID	<mlevtn$99a$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to	#499613

On 6/12/2015 11:42 AM, benj wrote:
>
> Atheism is just one more example of science today succumbing to
> political control.


No true scientist believes in god. Only a fucking retard does.

No offense btw


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#499709

From	benj <nobody@gmail.com>
Date	2015-06-12 19:41 -0400
Message-ID	<b7Kex.97253$Ly1.869@fx14.iad>
In reply to	#499615

On 06/12/2015 12:05 PM, HVAC wrote:
> On 6/12/2015 11:42 AM, benj wrote:
>>
>> Atheism is just one more example of science today succumbing to
>> political control.
>
>
> No true scientist believes in god. Only a fucking retard does.
>
> No offense btw
>
>
Says the semi-official spokesman for political control of science.

You mad?



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#499697

From	"Malte Runz" <malte_runz@forgitit.dk>
Date	2015-06-13 01:00 +0200
Message-ID	<557b6485$0$23208$edfadb0f@dtext01.news.tele.dk>
In reply to	#499613

"benj"  skrev i meddelelsen news:O5Dex.19737$ZJ.18496@fx16.iad...

(snip)

> Sounds like the perfect description of you fundi atheists. You all just
> believe without understanding why or examining any evidence. ...

Evidence? What evidence do I need to examine?


> ... But then Atheism is such a perfect fit to leftist politics that
> truth...

What truth?

> ... or evidence ...

Oh, yes. Always the "evidence". Why isn't blind faith enough for the
believer any more? Could it have something to do with the fact that evidence
based knowledge brings results that faith can't?

> has to take a backseat as it always does in politics.
>
> Atheism is just one more example of science today succumbing to political
> control. ...

Give me one specific example of that.

> ... Comes the revolution when the workers rise up to smash capitalism,
> atheism will be the state religion of EVERYONE!

You have to bait your trap with something a bit more sophisticated

>
> Hallelujah.

Way more sophisticated.

-- 
Malte Runz

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