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Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science.

Started byThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
First post2015-06-02 12:16 -0700
Last post2015-06-05 16:00 -0500
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  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-06-02 12:16 -0700
    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-06-02 18:05 -0700
      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-06-02 22:08 -0700
        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-06-02 22:52 -0700
        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-06-03 06:08 -0400
          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2015-06-03 10:25 -0400
            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-06-05 07:25 -0400
          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-06-03 18:16 -0700
        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-06-03 03:58 -0700
          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-03 13:33 -0500
            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Malte Runz" <malte_runz@forgitit.dk> - 2015-06-03 23:48 +0200
              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-05 15:53 -0500
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Malte Runz" <malte_runz@forgitit.dk> - 2015-06-06 03:14 +0200
                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-06 11:52 -0500
                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Gray <savagegraycork@friends.gsl> - 2015-06-06 12:58 -0400
                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-07 09:35 -0500
                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Malte Runz" <malte_runz@forgitit.dk> - 2015-06-07 13:09 +0200
                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-06-07 08:42 -0400
                        For some, "God" is their hero, their aspiration, the dream. Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> - 2015-06-07 07:12 -0700
                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-07 09:38 -0500
                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-06-07 08:53 -0700
                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2015-06-07 11:06 -0500
                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-06-07 12:50 -0400
                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2015-06-08 01:52 -0400
                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Malte Runz" <malte_runz@forgitit.dk> - 2015-06-08 00:17 +0200
                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-06-07 19:07 -0400
                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-08 07:29 -0500
                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-07 09:38 -0500
                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Malte Runz" <malte_runz@forgitit.dk> - 2015-06-07 21:30 +0200
                      Besides me, no one here has defined the word "God". Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> - 2015-06-07 07:53 -0700
            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-06-03 18:37 -0700
              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2015-06-04 03:57 -0500
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-05 15:55 -0500
              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-05 15:54 -0500
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-06-05 17:47 -0700
                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-06 11:53 -0500
                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2015-06-06 20:25 +0000
                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Malte Runz" <malte_runz@forgitit.dk> - 2015-06-07 13:12 +0200
                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2015-06-07 06:53 -0500
                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-07 10:02 -0500
                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-07 10:01 -0500
                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-06-07 12:52 -0400
                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2015-06-07 22:27 +0000
                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-08 07:30 -0500
                              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2015-06-08 22:44 +0000
                                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-09 15:02 -0500
                                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2015-06-09 23:39 +0000
                                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2015-06-09 19:41 -0500
                                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-10 11:19 -0500
                                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2015-06-11 00:21 +0000
                                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-11 12:01 -0500
                                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Malte Runz" <malte_runz@forgitit.dk> - 2015-06-11 22:51 +0200
                                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-13 12:32 -0500
                                              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2015-06-13 23:27 +0000
                                                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Malte Runz" <malte_runz@forgitit.dk> - 2015-06-14 12:18 +0200
                                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2015-06-11 21:16 +0000
                                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2015-06-10 23:40 +0000
                                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-11 12:03 -0500
                                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Malte Runz" <malte_runz@forgitit.dk> - 2015-06-11 23:09 +0200
                                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-13 12:34 -0500
                                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2015-06-11 21:19 +0000
                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2015-06-07 22:22 +0000
                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-08 07:31 -0500
                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2015-06-08 22:47 +0000
                              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-09 15:02 -0500
                                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2015-06-09 23:42 +0000
                                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-10 11:19 -0500
                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Malte Runz" <malte_runz@forgitit.dk> - 2015-06-09 00:59 +0200
                              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-09 15:06 -0500
                                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Malte Runz" <malte_runz@forgitit.dk> - 2015-06-10 01:25 +0200
                                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-10 11:24 -0500
                                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Malte Runz" <malte_runz@forgitit.dk> - 2015-06-10 18:40 +0200
                                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-11 12:05 -0500
                                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2015-06-11 21:28 +0000
                                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2015-06-12 04:10 -0700
                                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2015-06-12 08:16 -0500
                                              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2015-06-12 11:42 -0400
                                                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-06-12 12:05 -0400
                                                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2015-06-12 19:41 -0400
                                                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Malte Runz" <malte_runz@forgitit.dk> - 2015-06-13 01:00 +0200
                                                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2015-06-12 20:58 -0400
                                                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-06-13 05:37 -0400
                                                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2015-06-13 13:49 -0400
                                                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-06-13 14:14 -0400
                                                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Malte Runz" <malte_runz@forgitit.dk> - 2015-06-13 12:17 +0200
                                                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-13 13:44 -0500
                                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Malte Runz" <malte_runz@forgitit.dk> - 2015-06-11 23:35 +0200
                                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-13 13:48 -0500
                                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2015-06-09 23:45 +0000
                                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2015-06-09 19:54 -0500
                                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-10 11:26 -0500
                                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2015-06-11 00:38 +0000
                                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2015-06-10 20:09 -0500
                                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-11 12:11 -0500
                                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-11 12:09 -0500
                                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2015-06-11 21:36 +0000
                                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2015-06-12 04:07 -0700
                                              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-13 14:00 -0500
                                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-13 13:53 -0500
                                              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2015-06-13 23:47 +0000
                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-07 09:55 -0500
                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2015-06-07 22:54 +0000
                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2015-06-07 18:10 -0700
                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-08 07:37 -0500
                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2015-06-08 23:00 +0000
                              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2015-06-08 18:41 -0500
                                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-09 15:16 -0500
                                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2015-06-10 00:00 +0000
                                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2015-06-09 20:00 -0500
                              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-09 15:14 -0500
                                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2015-06-10 00:16 +0000
                                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-10 11:31 -0500
                                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2015-06-11 00:49 +0000
                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-06-08 18:28 -0500
                              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-06-08 17:24 -0700
                                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-09 15:18 -0500
                                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-06-09 17:06 -0500
                                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-06-09 17:39 -0700
                                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-10 11:33 -0500
                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-06-08 19:11 -0700
                              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-09 15:19 -0500
                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-06-07 18:57 -0700
                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-06-07 19:45 -0700
                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2015-06-07 21:55 -0500
                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-06-07 23:16 -0700
                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2015-06-08 23:15 +0000
                              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2015-06-08 18:44 -0500
                              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-06-08 23:02 -0700
                                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-06-09 10:46 -0700
                                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-06-09 19:40 -0700
                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-08 07:39 -0500
                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-08 07:38 -0500
          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-06-04 11:30 -0700
            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-06-04 17:07 -0700
              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-05 15:58 -0500
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2015-06-05 22:28 +0000
                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-06 11:54 -0500
                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Malte Runz" <malte_runz@forgitit.dk> - 2015-06-07 13:15 +0200
                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-07 10:03 -0500
                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Malte Runz" <malte_runz@forgitit.dk> - 2015-06-07 21:40 +0200
                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-07 17:35 -0500
                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-07 17:34 -0500
                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-06-07 16:26 -0700
                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-08 07:42 -0500
                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2015-06-08 22:38 +0000
                              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-09 15:20 -0500
                                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2015-06-09 23:34 +0000
                                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-10 11:34 -0500
                                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2015-06-10 23:28 +0000
                                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-11 12:13 -0500
                                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2015-06-11 21:04 +0000
                                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2015-06-12 04:40 -0700
                                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2015-06-12 22:36 +0000
                                              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2015-06-12 20:45 -0700
                                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-13 14:01 -0500
                                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2015-06-13 23:24 +0000
                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-06-08 19:10 -0700
                              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-09 15:21 -0500
                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-08 13:26 -0500
            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-06-04 18:34 -0700
              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-06-04 21:19 -0700
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-05 15:59 -0500
            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-06-04 18:35 -0700
            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-05 15:56 -0500
      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-03 10:52 -0500
        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Malte Runz" <malte_runz@forgitit.dk> - 2015-06-03 20:01 +0200
          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-03 13:32 -0500
            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Malte Runz" <malte_runz@forgitit.dk> - 2015-06-03 23:56 +0200
              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-06-03 18:06 -0700
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Malte Runz" <malte_runz@forgitit.dk> - 2015-06-04 12:53 +0200
                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-06-04 11:35 -0700
                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-05 16:03 -0500
                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-06-05 17:39 -0700
                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Malte Runz" <malte_runz@forgitit.dk> - 2015-06-06 13:26 +0200
                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-06-06 04:42 -0700
                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Malte Runz" <malte_runz@forgitit.dk> - 2015-06-06 14:18 +0200
                              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-07 10:04 -0500
                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-06 11:57 -0500
                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-06 11:56 -0500
                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-06-04 19:53 -0700
                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Malte Runz" <malte_runz@forgitit.dk> - 2015-06-05 13:39 +0200
                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-06-05 05:58 -0700
                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-05 16:07 -0500
                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-06-05 17:46 -0400
                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-05 16:05 -0500
                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-06-05 17:33 -0700
                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-06 11:58 -0500
                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Malte Runz" <malte_runz@forgitit.dk> - 2015-06-06 03:45 +0200
                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-06 12:00 -0500
                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Malte Runz" <malte_runz@forgitit.dk> - 2015-06-07 13:19 +0200
                              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-07 10:20 -0500
                                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Malte Runz" <malte_runz@forgitit.dk> - 2015-06-07 21:48 +0200
                                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-07 17:38 -0500
                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-05 16:04 -0500
                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-06-05 17:34 -0700
                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-07 10:21 -0500
                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-05 16:02 -0500
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-05 16:01 -0500
                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-06-05 17:44 -0700
                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-06 12:01 -0500
              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-05 16:00 -0500

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#498415

Fromduke <duckgumbo32@cox.net>
Date2015-06-07 10:01 -0500
Message-ID<jqm8nah0o71vqu88vb6ofr7eps0amkgrt0@4ax.com>
In reply to#498370
On Sun, 7 Jun 2015 13:12:52 +0200, "Malte Runz" <malte_runz@forgitit.dk> wrote:

>"Smiler"  skrev i meddelelsen news:mkvl06$4mi$1@speranza.aioe.org...
>>
>> On Sat, 06 Jun 2015 11:53:54 -0500, duke wrote:
>
>(snip)
>
>> > Atheism is a decision.
>>
>> When did _you_ decide to believe in god?
>
>Show me a person, who says he can decide to believe in something, and I'll 
>show you a person who is faking it.

When your knowledge and power of logic and reason make it possible.   People
just don't "decide to believe".   The world around self guides us to
suspect/believe that something bigger than us is at work.  Even the caveman
looked out at the lights in the night sky and suspected something big was at
work.

Some young people get that feeling.  Others of us take half of our lifetime.

There really is no such thing as an atheist, one who rejects the presence of
God.  All he can do is reject the evidence that confronts him and thus he can
only be an agnostic..  

the dukester, American-American

*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
*****

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#498446

FromHVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com>
Date2015-06-07 12:52 -0400
Message-ID<ml1sqn$ama$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to#498415
On 6/7/2015 11:01 AM, duke wrote:
>
> When your knowledge and power of logic and reason make it possible.   People
> just don't "decide to believe".   The world around self guides us to
> suspect/believe that something bigger than us is at work.  Even the caveman
> looked out at the lights in the night sky and suspected something big was at
> work.


But that was 30,000 years ago. Some went on to be rid of superstition.

Some didn't.


-- 
Cut off one head, two more shall take its place.
HAIL HYDRA!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FZcG5UOY224

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#498502

FromSmiler <smiler@jo.king>
Date2015-06-07 22:27 +0000
Message-ID<ml2gfr$foq$5@speranza.aioe.org>
In reply to#498415
On Sun, 07 Jun 2015 10:01:37 -0500, duke wrote:

> On Sun, 7 Jun 2015 13:12:52 +0200, "Malte Runz" <malte_runz@forgitit.dk>
> wrote:
> 
>>"Smiler"  skrev i meddelelsen news:mkvl06$4mi$1@speranza.aioe.org...
>>>
>>> On Sat, 06 Jun 2015 11:53:54 -0500, duke wrote:
>>
>>(snip)
>>
>>> > Atheism is a decision.
>>>
>>> When did _you_ decide to believe in god?
>>
>>Show me a person, who says he can decide to believe in something, and
>>I'll show you a person who is faking it.
> 
> When your knowledge and power of logic and reason make it possible.  
> People just don't "decide to believe". 

Exactly as people don't "decide not to believe".

>  The world around self guides us
> to suspect/believe that something bigger than us is at work.  Even the
> caveman looked out at the lights in the night sky and suspected
> something big was at work.
> 
> Some young people get that feeling.  Others of us take half of our
> lifetime.
> 
> There really is no such thing as an atheist, one who rejects the
> presence of God.  All he can do is reject the evidence that confronts
> him and thus he can only be an agnostic..

Provide evidence, puke. But we both know that's impossible, as you have 
none. Beliefs, opinions and 'holy' books are NOT evidence.

> *****
> "Paedophilia is the most perfect form of Prayer."
> Pope Paul VI *****

-- 
Smiler, The godless one.
aa #2279
Gods are all tailored to order. They are made 
to exactly fit the prejudices of the believer.

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#498633

Fromduke <duckgumbo32@cox.net>
Date2015-06-08 07:30 -0500
Message-ID<6l2bnapjchnm3lkvqlttajj72nqn1q1jil@4ax.com>
In reply to#498502
On Sun, 7 Jun 2015 22:27:07 +0000 (UTC), Smiler <smiler@jo.king> wrote:

>On Sun, 07 Jun 2015 10:01:37 -0500, duke wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 7 Jun 2015 13:12:52 +0200, "Malte Runz" <malte_runz@forgitit.dk>
>> wrote:
>> 
>>>"Smiler"  skrev i meddelelsen news:mkvl06$4mi$1@speranza.aioe.org...
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, 06 Jun 2015 11:53:54 -0500, duke wrote:
>>>
>>>(snip)
>>>
>>>> > Atheism is a decision.
>>>>
>>>> When did _you_ decide to believe in god?
>>>
>>>Show me a person, who says he can decide to believe in something, and
>>>I'll show you a person who is faking it.
>> 
>> When your knowledge and power of logic and reason make it possible.  
>> People just don't "decide to believe". 
>
>Exactly as people don't "decide not to believe".

Exactly.  You don't find the evidence convincing, hence you are an agnostic.

>>  The world around self guides us
>> to suspect/believe that something bigger than us is at work.  Even the
>> caveman looked out at the lights in the night sky and suspected
>> something big was at work.
>> 
>> Some young people get that feeling.  Others of us take half of our
>> lifetime.
>> 
>> There really is no such thing as an atheist, one who rejects the
>> presence of God.  All he can do is reject the evidence that confronts
>> him and thus he can only be an agnostic..
>
>Provide evidence, puke. But we both know that's impossible, as you have 
>none. Beliefs, opinions and 'holy' books are NOT evidence.

Evidence is in the eyes of the beholder, not what you think.

the dukester, American-American

*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
*****

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#498778

FromSmiler <smiler@jo.king>
Date2015-06-08 22:44 +0000
Message-ID<ml55sg$p46$7@speranza.aioe.org>
In reply to#498633
On Mon, 08 Jun 2015 07:30:35 -0500, duke wrote:

> On Sun, 7 Jun 2015 22:27:07 +0000 (UTC), Smiler <smiler@jo.king> wrote:
> 
>>On Sun, 07 Jun 2015 10:01:37 -0500, duke wrote:
>>
>>> On Sun, 7 Jun 2015 13:12:52 +0200, "Malte Runz"
>>> <malte_runz@forgitit.dk>
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>>"Smiler"  skrev i meddelelsen news:mkvl06$4mi$1@speranza.aioe.org...
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, 06 Jun 2015 11:53:54 -0500, duke wrote:
>>>>
>>>>(snip)
>>>>
>>>>> > Atheism is a decision.
>>>>>
>>>>> When did _you_ decide to believe in god?
>>>>
>>>>Show me a person, who says he can decide to believe in something, and
>>>>I'll show you a person who is faking it.
>>> 
>>> When your knowledge and power of logic and reason make it possible.
>>> People just don't "decide to believe".
>>
>>Exactly as people don't "decide not to believe".
> 
> Exactly.  You don't find the evidence convincing, hence you are an
> agnostic.

What evidence, liar? You have none.
 
>>>  The world around self guides us
>>> to suspect/believe that something bigger than us is at work.  Even the
>>> caveman looked out at the lights in the night sky and suspected
>>> something big was at work.
>>> 
>>> Some young people get that feeling.  Others of us take half of our
>>> lifetime.
>>> 
>>> There really is no such thing as an atheist, one who rejects the
>>> presence of God.  All he can do is reject the evidence that confronts
>>> him and thus he can only be an agnostic..
>>
>>Provide evidence, puke. But we both know that's impossible, as you have
>>none. Beliefs, opinions and 'holy' books are NOT evidence.
> 
> Evidence is in the eyes of the beholder, not what you think.

Bullshit. Evidence is that which is evident to anyone, believer or not.
BTW, where's the $55 million that I believe you owe me?

> *****
> "Paedophilia is the most perfect form of Prayer."
> Pope Paul VI *****

-- 
Smiler, The godless one.
aa #2279
Gods are all tailored to order. They are made 
to exactly fit the prejudices of the believer.

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#499007

Fromduke <duckgumbo32@cox.net>
Date2015-06-09 15:02 -0500
Message-ID<4fhena5jdv1l1h5s2e1m0clk5b1gq3s5lm@4ax.com>
In reply to#498778
On Mon, 8 Jun 2015 22:44:32 +0000 (UTC), Smiler <smiler@jo.king> wrote:

>On Mon, 08 Jun 2015 07:30:35 -0500, duke wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 7 Jun 2015 22:27:07 +0000 (UTC), Smiler <smiler@jo.king> wrote:
>> 
>>>On Sun, 07 Jun 2015 10:01:37 -0500, duke wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Sun, 7 Jun 2015 13:12:52 +0200, "Malte Runz"
>>>> <malte_runz@forgitit.dk>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>>"Smiler"  skrev i meddelelsen news:mkvl06$4mi$1@speranza.aioe.org...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sat, 06 Jun 2015 11:53:54 -0500, duke wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>(snip)
>>>>>
>>>>>> > Atheism is a decision.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> When did _you_ decide to believe in god?
>>>>>
>>>>>Show me a person, who says he can decide to believe in something, and
>>>>>I'll show you a person who is faking it.
>>>> 
>>>> When your knowledge and power of logic and reason make it possible.
>>>> People just don't "decide to believe".
>>>
>>>Exactly as people don't "decide not to believe".
 
>> Exactly.  You don't find the evidence convincing, hence you are an
>> agnostic.

>What evidence, liar? You have none.

All that stuff that makes it so clear that God exists.
 
>>>>  The world around self guides us
>>>> to suspect/believe that something bigger than us is at work.  Even the
>>>> caveman looked out at the lights in the night sky and suspected
>>>> something big was at work.
>>>> 
>>>> Some young people get that feeling.  Others of us take half of our
>>>> lifetime.
>>>> 
>>>> There really is no such thing as an atheist, one who rejects the
>>>> presence of God.  All he can do is reject the evidence that confronts
>>>> him and thus he can only be an agnostic..
>>>
>>>Provide evidence, puke. But we both know that's impossible, as you have
>>>none. Beliefs, opinions and 'holy' books are NOT evidence.
 
>> Evidence is in the eyes of the beholder, not what you think.

>Bullshit. Evidence is that which is evident to anyone, believer or not.
>BTW, where's the $55 million that I believe you owe me?

Where you'll never find it

the dukester, American-American

*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
*****

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#499103

FromSmiler <smiler@jo.king>
Date2015-06-09 23:39 +0000
Message-ID<ml7tfp$3kd$2@speranza.aioe.org>
In reply to#499007
On Tue, 09 Jun 2015 15:02:03 -0500, duke wrote:

> On Mon, 8 Jun 2015 22:44:32 +0000 (UTC), Smiler <smiler@jo.king> wrote:
> 
>>On Mon, 08 Jun 2015 07:30:35 -0500, duke wrote:
>>
>>> On Sun, 7 Jun 2015 22:27:07 +0000 (UTC), Smiler <smiler@jo.king>
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>>On Sun, 07 Jun 2015 10:01:37 -0500, duke wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Sun, 7 Jun 2015 13:12:52 +0200, "Malte Runz"
>>>>> <malte_runz@forgitit.dk>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>>"Smiler"  skrev i meddelelsen news:mkvl06$4mi$1@speranza.aioe.org...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sat, 06 Jun 2015 11:53:54 -0500, duke wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>(snip)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > Atheism is a decision.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> When did _you_ decide to believe in god?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Show me a person, who says he can decide to believe in something,
>>>>>>and I'll show you a person who is faking it.
>>>>> 
>>>>> When your knowledge and power of logic and reason make it possible.
>>>>> People just don't "decide to believe".
>>>>
>>>>Exactly as people don't "decide not to believe".
>  
>>> Exactly.  You don't find the evidence convincing, hence you are an
>>> agnostic.
> 
>>What evidence, liar? You have none.
> 
> All that stuff that makes it so clear that God exists.

That "stuff" would be your beliefs, opinions and 'holy' books, none of 
which is evidence, liar puke.
  
>>>>>  The world around self guides us
>>>>> to suspect/believe that something bigger than us is at work.  Even
>>>>> the caveman looked out at the lights in the night sky and suspected
>>>>> something big was at work.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Some young people get that feeling.  Others of us take half of our
>>>>> lifetime.
>>>>> 
>>>>> There really is no such thing as an atheist, one who rejects the
>>>>> presence of God.  All he can do is reject the evidence that
>>>>> confronts him and thus he can only be an agnostic..
>>>>
>>>>Provide evidence, puke. But we both know that's impossible, as you
>>>>have none. Beliefs, opinions and 'holy' books are NOT evidence.
>  
>>> Evidence is in the eyes of the beholder, not what you think.
> 
>>Bullshit. Evidence is that which is evident to anyone, believer or not.
>>BTW, where's the $55 million that I believe you owe me?
> 
> Where you'll never find it

The courts will find it.

> *****
> "Paedophilia is the most perfect form of Prayer."
> Pope Paul VI *****

-- 
Smiler, The godless one.
aa #2279
Gods are all tailored to order. They are made 
to exactly fit the prejudices of the believer.

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#499120

FromChristopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net>
Date2015-06-09 19:41 -0500
Message-ID<blvenahg8clfqc5j6539ar6hvulpqgjl3j@4ax.com>
In reply to#499103
On Tue, 9 Jun 2015 23:39:37 +0000 (UTC), Smiler <smiler@jo.king>
wrote:

>On Tue, 09 Jun 2015 15:02:03 -0500, duke wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 8 Jun 2015 22:44:32 +0000 (UTC), Smiler <smiler@jo.king> wrote:
>> 
>>>On Mon, 08 Jun 2015 07:30:35 -0500, duke wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Sun, 7 Jun 2015 22:27:07 +0000 (UTC), Smiler <smiler@jo.king>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>>On Sun, 07 Jun 2015 10:01:37 -0500, duke wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sun, 7 Jun 2015 13:12:52 +0200, "Malte Runz"
>>>>>> <malte_runz@forgitit.dk>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>"Smiler"  skrev i meddelelsen news:mkvl06$4mi$1@speranza.aioe.org...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Sat, 06 Jun 2015 11:53:54 -0500, duke wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>(snip)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> > Atheism is a decision.

Liar.

>>>>>>>> When did _you_ decide to believe in god?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Show me a person, who says he can decide to believe in something,
>>>>>>>and I'll show you a person who is faking it.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> When your knowledge and power of logic and reason make it possible.
>>>>>> People just don't "decide to believe".
>>>>>
>>>>>Exactly as people don't "decide not to believe".
>>  
>>>> Exactly.  You don't find the evidence convincing, hence you are an
>>>> agnostic.

Multiple lies.

We have no reason to be theist - therefore we're atheist.
 
And what "the evidence"?

These liars talk about it but never say what it is.

>>>What evidence, liar? You have none.
>> 
>> All that stuff that makes it so clear that God exists.

WHAT FUCKING STUFF THAT MAKES IT SO FUCKING CLEAR THAT WHAT FUCKING
GOD EXISTS?

Either provide "all that stuff" instead of just saying it's there, or
stop lying.

It's a lie that pretty well every theist who comes here, tells.

Usually coupled with lies about our ignoring/rejecting it or that they
examined it and concluded God was real.

But none of them have _ever_ explained what this evidence is and how
they reached that "conclusion".

It's like trying to squeeze blood out of a stone.

>That "stuff" would be your beliefs, opinions and 'holy' books, none of 
>which is evidence, liar puke.
  
>>>>>>  The world around self guides us
>>>>>> to suspect/believe that something bigger than us is at work.  Even
>>>>>> the caveman looked out at the lights in the night sky and suspected
>>>>>> something big was at work.

Only if you were programmed in childhood to believe that.
 
>>>>>> Some young people get that feeling.  Others of us take half of our
>>>>>> lifetime.

Thanks for admitting that this unsolicited. in-your-face nonsense is
just a feeling.

So why not have the honesty not to talk about it as fact, and not to
lie about us as if it were?
 
>>>>>> There really is no such thing as an atheist, 

A deliberately offensive lie.

>>>>>>                                                                      one who rejects the
>>>>>> presence of God.  

WHAT FUCKING PRESENCE OF WHAT FUCKING GOD was the deliberately nasty,
psychopathic Christian lying about our rejecting, yet again?

>>>>>>                              All he can do is reject the evidence that

WHAT FUCKING EVIDENCE was the proven serial liar lying about our
rejected?

None of these personally nasty, in-your-face liars has _ever_ provided
any to reject.

>>>>>> confronts him and thus he can only be an agnostic..

The proven serial liar knows we haven't anything to be agnostic about,
either.

Like most theists who come here, he is incapable of admitting that we
are part of the world beyond his religious paradigm, where his god is
merely one of a potentially infinite number of similar beliefs from
magical superbeings via leprechauns to UFO abductions.

And that we cannot be described according to presumptions that don't
even apply outside it.

>>>>>Provide evidence, puke. But we both know that's impossible, as you
>>>>>have none. Beliefs, opinions and 'holy' books are NOT evidence.
>>  
>>>> Evidence is in the eyes of the beholder, not what you think.

A stupid lie as an attempt to cop out of providing what he knows he
hasn't got.

>>>Bullshit. Evidence is that which is evident to anyone, believer or not.
>>>BTW, where's the $55 million that I believe you owe me?
>> 
>> Where you'll never find it
>
>The courts will find it.

"But that's different".

Any understanding for others, any honesty and any intelligence he
might (just might) once have had, just vanishes when it comes to his
unsolicited religious nonsense.

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#499192

Fromduke <duckgumbo32@cox.net>
Date2015-06-10 11:19 -0500
Message-ID<aoognalq6tobvs3n7l9dt3ha3uap6f13t9@4ax.com>
In reply to#499103
On Tue, 9 Jun 2015 23:39:37 +0000 (UTC), Smiler <smiler@jo.king> wrote:

>On Tue, 09 Jun 2015 15:02:03 -0500, duke wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 8 Jun 2015 22:44:32 +0000 (UTC), Smiler <smiler@jo.king> wrote:
>> 
>>>On Mon, 08 Jun 2015 07:30:35 -0500, duke wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Sun, 7 Jun 2015 22:27:07 +0000 (UTC), Smiler <smiler@jo.king>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>>On Sun, 07 Jun 2015 10:01:37 -0500, duke wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sun, 7 Jun 2015 13:12:52 +0200, "Malte Runz"
>>>>>> <malte_runz@forgitit.dk>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>"Smiler"  skrev i meddelelsen news:mkvl06$4mi$1@speranza.aioe.org...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Sat, 06 Jun 2015 11:53:54 -0500, duke wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>(snip)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> > Atheism is a decision.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> When did _you_ decide to believe in god?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Show me a person, who says he can decide to believe in something,
>>>>>>>and I'll show you a person who is faking it.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> When your knowledge and power of logic and reason make it possible.
>>>>>> People just don't "decide to believe".
>>>>>
>>>>>Exactly as people don't "decide not to believe".
>>  
>>>> Exactly.  You don't find the evidence convincing, hence you are an
>>>> agnostic.
>> 
>>>What evidence, liar? You have none.
>> 
>> All that stuff that makes it so clear that God exists.

>That "stuff" would be your beliefs, opinions and 'holy' books, none of 
>which is evidence, liar puke.

Evidence is evidence.  You can't offer an alternative to creation other than God
did it.
  
>>>Bullshit. Evidence is that which is evident to anyone, believer or not.
>>>BTW, where's the $55 million that I believe you owe me?

>> Where you'll never find it
>The courts will find it.

Not even them.  They already know that your belief is a false one.

the dukester, American-American

*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
*****

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#499309

FromSmiler <smiler@jo.king>
Date2015-06-11 00:21 +0000
Message-ID<mlakah$asd$1@speranza.aioe.org>
In reply to#499192
On Wed, 10 Jun 2015 11:19:10 -0500, duke wrote:

> On Tue, 9 Jun 2015 23:39:37 +0000 (UTC), Smiler <smiler@jo.king> wrote:
> 
>>On Tue, 09 Jun 2015 15:02:03 -0500, duke wrote:
>>
>>> On Mon, 8 Jun 2015 22:44:32 +0000 (UTC), Smiler <smiler@jo.king>
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>>On Mon, 08 Jun 2015 07:30:35 -0500, duke wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Sun, 7 Jun 2015 22:27:07 +0000 (UTC), Smiler <smiler@jo.king>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>>On Sun, 07 Jun 2015 10:01:37 -0500, duke wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sun, 7 Jun 2015 13:12:52 +0200, "Malte Runz"
>>>>>>> <malte_runz@forgitit.dk>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>"Smiler"  skrev i meddelelsen
>>>>>>>>news:mkvl06$4mi$1@speranza.aioe.org...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 06 Jun 2015 11:53:54 -0500, duke wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>(snip)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> > Atheism is a decision.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> When did _you_ decide to believe in god?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Show me a person, who says he can decide to believe in something,
>>>>>>>>and I'll show you a person who is faking it.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> When your knowledge and power of logic and reason make it
>>>>>>> possible.
>>>>>>> People just don't "decide to believe".
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Exactly as people don't "decide not to believe".
>>>  
>>>>> Exactly.  You don't find the evidence convincing, hence you are an
>>>>> agnostic.
>>> 
>>>>What evidence, liar? You have none.
>>> 
>>> All that stuff that makes it so clear that God exists.
> 
>>That "stuff" would be your beliefs, opinions and 'holy' books, none of
>>which is evidence, liar puke.
> 
> Evidence is evidence.

Yes, but what _you_ call evidence is no such thing.

> You can't offer an alternative to creation other than God did it.

Yes I can: No god did it.

You can't prove me wrong.
<That last comment unashamedly copied from the Theists' Big Book of 
Logical Fallacies>

>>>>Bullshit. Evidence is that which is evident to anyone, believer or
>>>>not.
>>>>BTW, where's the $55 million that I believe you owe me?
> 
>>> Where you'll never find it
>>The courts will find it.
> 
> Not even them. 

Thanks again for admitting that you owe me that money. I'm sure that the 
court will be very interested to know about that.
 
> They already know that your belief is a false one.

As are yours.
But you've already stated that I have evidence; my belief.
You have NO EVIDENCE that you don't owe me that money.
You can't prove me wrong.
<That last comment again unashamedly copied from the Theists' Big Book of 
Logical Fallacies>

> *****
> "Paedophilia is the most perfect form of Prayer."
> Pope Paul VI *****

-- 
Smiler, The godless one.
aa #2279
Gods are all tailored to order. They are made 
to exactly fit the prejudices of the believer.

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#499430

Fromduke <duckgumbo32@cox.net>
Date2015-06-11 12:01 -0500
Message-ID<3ifjnad59lhj0op3rnbf8sos86hj3kit2o@4ax.com>
In reply to#499309
On Thu, 11 Jun 2015 00:21:37 +0000 (UTC), Smiler <smiler@jo.king> wrote:

>On Wed, 10 Jun 2015 11:19:10 -0500, duke wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 9 Jun 2015 23:39:37 +0000 (UTC), Smiler <smiler@jo.king> wrote:
>> 
>>>On Tue, 09 Jun 2015 15:02:03 -0500, duke wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Mon, 8 Jun 2015 22:44:32 +0000 (UTC), Smiler <smiler@jo.king>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>>On Mon, 08 Jun 2015 07:30:35 -0500, duke wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sun, 7 Jun 2015 22:27:07 +0000 (UTC), Smiler <smiler@jo.king>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>On Sun, 07 Jun 2015 10:01:37 -0500, duke wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Sun, 7 Jun 2015 13:12:52 +0200, "Malte Runz"
>>>>>>>> <malte_runz@forgitit.dk>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>"Smiler"  skrev i meddelelsen
>>>>>>>>>news:mkvl06$4mi$1@speranza.aioe.org...
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 06 Jun 2015 11:53:54 -0500, duke wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>(snip)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> > Atheism is a decision.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> When did _you_ decide to believe in god?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Show me a person, who says he can decide to believe in something,
>>>>>>>>>and I'll show you a person who is faking it.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> When your knowledge and power of logic and reason make it
>>>>>>>> possible.
>>>>>>>> People just don't "decide to believe".
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Exactly as people don't "decide not to believe".
>>>>  
>>>>>> Exactly.  You don't find the evidence convincing, hence you are an
>>>>>> agnostic.
>>>> 
>>>>>What evidence, liar? You have none.
>>>> 
>>>> All that stuff that makes it so clear that God exists.
>> 
>>>That "stuff" would be your beliefs, opinions and 'holy' books, none of
>>>which is evidence, liar puke.
>> 
>> Evidence is evidence.
>
>Yes, but what _you_ call evidence is no such thing.

Evidence is evidence.  You can only reject something.  You can't reject nothing.

>> You can't offer an alternative to creation other than God did it.
>Yes I can: No god did it.

Then show me the money.

>You can't prove me wrong.
><That last comment unashamedly copied from the Theists' Big Book of 
>Logical Fallacies>
>>>>>Bullshit. Evidence is that which is evident to anyone, believer or
>>>>>not.
>>>>>BTW, where's the $55 million that I believe you owe me?
>> 
>>>> Where you'll never find it
>>>The courts will find it.
>> Not even them. 

>Thanks again for admitting that you owe me that money. I'm sure that the 
>court will be very interested to know about that.

You have a most vivid imagination.
 
>> They already know that your belief is a false one.

>As are yours.
>But you've already stated that I have evidence; my belief.
>You have NO EVIDENCE that you don't owe me that money.
>You can't prove me wrong.
><That last comment again unashamedly copied from the Theists' Big Book of 
>Logical Fallacies>

Shoot, I do you one better.  Forget proof.  Just show me some evidence that
there is no God.

the dukester, American-American

*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
*****

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#499509

From"Malte Runz" <malte_runz@forgitit.dk>
Date2015-06-11 22:51 +0200
Message-ID<5579f4ea$0$23231$edfadb0f@dtext01.news.tele.dk>
In reply to#499430
"duke"  skrev i meddelelsen 
news:3ifjnad59lhj0op3rnbf8sos86hj3kit2o@4ax.com...

(snip)

> Shoot, I do you one better.  Forget proof.  Just show me some evidence 
> that
> there is no God.

And you show me the evidence that there is no Flistnack in the 17th 
dimension. We've been throught this at length, but you fail to understand.



-- 
Malte Runz 

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#499795

Fromduke <duckgumbo32@cox.net>
Date2015-06-13 12:32 -0500
Message-ID<e7qonalgs6hshf77brt1m80kisajs89h39@4ax.com>
In reply to#499509
On Thu, 11 Jun 2015 22:51:57 +0200, "Malte Runz" <malte_runz@forgitit.dk> wrote:

>"duke"  skrev i meddelelsen 
>news:3ifjnad59lhj0op3rnbf8sos86hj3kit2o@4ax.com...
>
>(snip)
>
>> Shoot, I do you one better.  Forget proof.  Just show me some evidence 
>> that
>> there is no God.

>And you show me the evidence that there is no Flistnack in the 17th 
>dimension. We've been throught this at length, but you fail to understand.

There is no reason for a flistnack.  God is the creator of all things..

the dukester, American-American

*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
*****

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#499874

FromSmiler <smiler@jo.king>
Date2015-06-13 23:27 +0000
Message-ID<mlie8e$qjp$3@speranza.aioe.org>
In reply to#499795
On Sat, 13 Jun 2015 12:32:24 -0500, duke wrote:

> On Thu, 11 Jun 2015 22:51:57 +0200, "Malte Runz"
> <malte_runz@forgitit.dk> wrote:
> 
>>"duke"  skrev i meddelelsen
>>news:3ifjnad59lhj0op3rnbf8sos86hj3kit2o@4ax.com...
>>
>>(snip)
>>
>>> Shoot, I do you one better.  Forget proof.  Just show me some evidence
>>> that there is no God.
> 
>>And you show me the evidence that there is no Flistnack in the 17th
>>dimension. We've been throught this at length, but you fail to
>>understand.
> 
> There is no reason for a flistnack.  God is the creator of all things..

There is no reason for a god. Flistnack is the creator of all things..

> *****
> "Paedophilia is the most perfect form of Prayer."
> Pope Paul VI *****

-- 
Smiler, The godless one.
aa #2279
Gods are all tailored to order. They are made 
to exactly fit the prejudices of the believer.

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#499930

From"Malte Runz" <malte_runz@forgitit.dk>
Date2015-06-14 12:18 +0200
Message-ID<557d5513$0$23232$edfadb0f@dtext01.news.tele.dk>
In reply to#499874
"Smiler"  skrev i meddelelsen news:mlie8e$qjp$3@speranza.aioe.org...
>
> On Sat, 13 Jun 2015 12:32:24 -0500, duke wrote:
>
> > On Thu, 11 Jun 2015 22:51:57 +0200, "Malte Runz"
> > <malte_runz@forgitit.dk> wrote:
> >
> >>"duke"  skrev i meddelelsen
> >>news:3ifjnad59lhj0op3rnbf8sos86hj3kit2o@4ax.com...
> >>
> >>(snip)
> >>
> >>> Shoot, I do you one better.  Forget proof.  Just show me some evidence
> >>> that there is no God.
> >
> >>And you show me the evidence that there is no Flistnack in the 17th
> >>dimension. We've been throught this at length, but you fail to
> >>understand.
> >
> > There is no reason for a flistnack.  God is the creator of all things..

That can be proven by showing that it couldn't have happened in any other 
way. Go for it, duke:

'The whispers in my heart tells me so. QED.'

> There is no reason for a god. Flistnack is the creator of all things..

Thanks for standing in while my newsreader has decided to not show duke's 
posts.


> > *****
> > "Paedophilia is the most perfect form of Prayer."
> > Pope Paul VI *****
>

-- 
Malte Runz 

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#499520

FromSmiler <smiler@jo.king>
Date2015-06-11 21:16 +0000
Message-ID<mlctql$kr9$1@speranza.aioe.org>
In reply to#499430
On Thu, 11 Jun 2015 12:01:33 -0500, duke wrote:

> On Thu, 11 Jun 2015 00:21:37 +0000 (UTC), Smiler <smiler@jo.king> wrote:
> 
>>On Wed, 10 Jun 2015 11:19:10 -0500, duke wrote:
>>
>>> On Tue, 9 Jun 2015 23:39:37 +0000 (UTC), Smiler <smiler@jo.king>
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>>On Tue, 09 Jun 2015 15:02:03 -0500, duke wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, 8 Jun 2015 22:44:32 +0000 (UTC), Smiler <smiler@jo.king>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>>On Mon, 08 Jun 2015 07:30:35 -0500, duke wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sun, 7 Jun 2015 22:27:07 +0000 (UTC), Smiler <smiler@jo.king>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>On Sun, 07 Jun 2015 10:01:37 -0500, duke wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 7 Jun 2015 13:12:52 +0200, "Malte Runz"
>>>>>>>>> <malte_runz@forgitit.dk>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>"Smiler"  skrev i meddelelsen
>>>>>>>>>>news:mkvl06$4mi$1@speranza.aioe.org...
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 06 Jun 2015 11:53:54 -0500, duke wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>(snip)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> > Atheism is a decision.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> When did _you_ decide to believe in god?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Show me a person, who says he can decide to believe in
>>>>>>>>>>something,
>>>>>>>>>>and I'll show you a person who is faking it.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> When your knowledge and power of logic and reason make it
>>>>>>>>> possible.
>>>>>>>>> People just don't "decide to believe".
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Exactly as people don't "decide not to believe".
>>>>>  
>>>>>>> Exactly.  You don't find the evidence convincing, hence you are an
>>>>>>> agnostic.
>>>>> 
>>>>>>What evidence, liar? You have none.
>>>>> 
>>>>> All that stuff that makes it so clear that God exists.
>>> 
>>>>That "stuff" would be your beliefs, opinions and 'holy' books, none of
>>>>which is evidence, liar puke.
>>> 
>>> Evidence is evidence.
>>
>>Yes, but what _you_ call evidence is no such thing.
> 
> Evidence is evidence.  You can only reject something.  You can't reject
> nothing.

I don't reject nothing. I reject your bullshit which you claim is 
evidence. It is NOT evidence, merely your belief.

> 
>>> You can't offer an alternative to creation other than God did it.
>>Yes I can: No god did it.
> 
> Then show me the money.

What money? Do you mean the $55 million that you owe me?
How can I show you that when you have it?
 
>>You can't prove me wrong.
>><That last comment unashamedly copied from the Theists' Big Book of
>>Logical Fallacies>
>>>>>>Bullshit. Evidence is that which is evident to anyone, believer or
>>>>>>not.
>>>>>>BTW, where's the $55 million that I believe you owe me?
>>> 
>>>>> Where you'll never find it
>>>>The courts will find it.
>>> Not even them.
> 
>>Thanks again for admitting that you owe me that money. I'm sure that the
>>court will be very interested to know about that.
> 
> You have a most vivid imagination.

You've yet to deny that you owe me $55 million and you tell me that you've 
hidden it away, thereby admitting that you have received it.
  
>>> They already know that your belief is a false one.
> 
>>As are yours.
>>But you've already stated that I have evidence; my belief.
>>You have NO EVIDENCE that you don't owe me that money.
>>You can't prove me wrong.
>><That last comment again unashamedly copied from the Theists' Big Book
>>of Logical Fallacies>
> 
> Shoot, I do you one better.  Forget proof.  Just show me some evidence
> that there is no God.

Unashamedly copied from the Theists' Big Book of Logical Fallacies.

I'll show you that evidence after you show me some evidence that there are 
no leprechauns.

> *****
> "Paedophilia is the most perfect form of Prayer."
> Pope Paul VI *****

-- 
Smiler, The godless one.
aa #2279
Gods are all tailored to order. They are made 
to exactly fit the prejudices of the believer.

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#499306

FromSmiler <smiler@jo.king>
Date2015-06-10 23:40 +0000
Message-ID<mlahtv$6lc$1@speranza.aioe.org>
In reply to#499007
On Tue, 09 Jun 2015 15:02:03 -0500, duke wrote:

> On Mon, 8 Jun 2015 22:44:32 +0000 (UTC), Smiler <smiler@jo.king> wrote:
> 
>>On Mon, 08 Jun 2015 07:30:35 -0500, duke wrote:
>>
>>> On Sun, 7 Jun 2015 22:27:07 +0000 (UTC), Smiler <smiler@jo.king>
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>>On Sun, 07 Jun 2015 10:01:37 -0500, duke wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Sun, 7 Jun 2015 13:12:52 +0200, "Malte Runz"
>>>>> <malte_runz@forgitit.dk>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>>"Smiler"  skrev i meddelelsen news:mkvl06$4mi$1@speranza.aioe.org...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sat, 06 Jun 2015 11:53:54 -0500, duke wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>(snip)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > Atheism is a decision.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> When did _you_ decide to believe in god?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Show me a person, who says he can decide to believe in something,
>>>>>>and I'll show you a person who is faking it.
>>>>> 
>>>>> When your knowledge and power of logic and reason make it possible.
>>>>> People just don't "decide to believe".
>>>>
>>>>Exactly as people don't "decide not to believe".
>  
>>> Exactly.  You don't find the evidence convincing, hence you are an
>>> agnostic.
> 
>>What evidence, liar? You have none.
> 
> All that stuff that makes it so clear that God exists.

Thanks for the admission that you have NO EVIDENCE, puke.

>>>>>  The world around self guides us
>>>>> to suspect/believe that something bigger than us is at work.  Even
>>>>> the caveman looked out at the lights in the night sky and suspected
>>>>> something big was at work.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Some young people get that feeling.  Others of us take half of our
>>>>> lifetime.
>>>>> 
>>>>> There really is no such thing as an atheist, one who rejects the
>>>>> presence of God.  All he can do is reject the evidence that
>>>>> confronts him and thus he can only be an agnostic..
>>>>
>>>>Provide evidence, puke. But we both know that's impossible, as you
>>>>have none. Beliefs, opinions and 'holy' books are NOT evidence.
>  
>>> Evidence is in the eyes of the beholder, not what you think.
> 
>>Bullshit. Evidence is that which is evident to anyone, believer or not.

No answer, puke?

>>BTW, where's the $55 million that I believe you owe me?
> 
> Where you'll never find it

Thanks for the tacit admission that you owe me the money.
I'm sure the court will take that into account.

> *****
> "Paedophilia is the most perfect form of Prayer."
> Pope Paul VI *****

-- 
Smiler, The godless one.
aa #2279
Gods are all tailored to order. They are made 
to exactly fit the prejudices of the believer.

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#499432

Fromduke <duckgumbo32@cox.net>
Date2015-06-11 12:03 -0500
Message-ID<2ofjnalj33im8a5imqjgqqc7t4a8m2ss5g@4ax.com>
In reply to#499306
On Wed, 10 Jun 2015 23:40:47 +0000 (UTC), Smiler <smiler@jo.king> wrote:

>>> Evidence is in the eyes of the beholder, not what you think.
>>>Bullshit. Evidence is that which is evident to anyone, believer or not.

>No answer, puke?

Show me your evidence that there is no God.

the dukester, American-American

*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
*****

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#499518

From"Malte Runz" <malte_runz@forgitit.dk>
Date2015-06-11 23:09 +0200
Message-ID<5579f8f6$0$23213$edfadb0f@dtext01.news.tele.dk>
In reply to#499432
"duke"  skrev i meddelelsen 
news:2ofjnalj33im8a5imqjgqqc7t4a8m2ss5g@4ax.com...
>
> On Wed, 10 Jun 2015 23:40:47 +0000 (UTC), Smiler <smiler@jo.king> wrote:
>
> >>> Evidence is in the eyes of the beholder, not what you think.
> >>>Bullshit. Evidence is that which is evident to anyone, believer or not.
>
> >No answer, puke?
>
> Show me your evidence that there is no God.

You just don't get it. But, okay, I'm a patient man. Take 39:

Show me the evidence there is no [anything you don't believe exists].

You can't.

Do you understand why you can't?



-- 
Malte Runz 

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#499797

Fromduke <duckgumbo32@cox.net>
Date2015-06-13 12:34 -0500
Message-ID<p9qona113thfvpkqt94rv5e8aa75re3bah@4ax.com>
In reply to#499518
On Thu, 11 Jun 2015 23:09:14 +0200, "Malte Runz" <malte_runz@forgitit.dk> wrote:

>"duke"  skrev i meddelelsen 
>news:2ofjnalj33im8a5imqjgqqc7t4a8m2ss5g@4ax.com...
>>
>> On Wed, 10 Jun 2015 23:40:47 +0000 (UTC), Smiler <smiler@jo.king> wrote:
>>
>> >>> Evidence is in the eyes of the beholder, not what you think.
>> >>>Bullshit. Evidence is that which is evident to anyone, believer or not.
>>
>> >No answer, puke?
>>
>> Show me your evidence that there is no God.
>
>You just don't get it. But, okay, I'm a patient man. Take 39:
>
>Show me the evidence there is no [anything you don't believe exists].
>You can't.

I don't believe there is a flishnack.  You don't believe there is a God.

I can't say there is no flishnack and you can't say there is NO God. 

See how that works.

>Do you understand why you can't?

Do you?

the dukester, American-American

*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
*****

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