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Re: Why Still Old Framework?

From Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain>
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Subject Re: Why Still Old Framework?
Date 2015-08-03 12:42 +0000
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On Sun, 02 Aug 2015 16:49:26 -0500, Odd Bodkin wrote:

>>
>> This is how the professional education, or "formal training" as
>> Odd Ball calls it, of a scientist occurs in the United States and
>> probably in most of the rest of the world as well.  There simply
>> is no "formal training" of any kind.  One either does or does not
>> entirely on his own.
> 
> I'm sorry, but you're simply full of shit.
> 

Hardly.

If you have had "formal" training, you should have realized that at the
UNDERGRADUATE level, the textbook is read for the student by that idiot
in front of the classroom known as the "teacher."

At the POST-GRADUATE level, however, the "student" is expected to read
the textbook for himself.  Some institutions may offer advanced coursework
for those who require a helping hand, but there should be no requirement
for it.

After all, post-graduate school is essentially for training scientists
to solve current problems and to discover new knowledge.  When probing
the unknown, there can be no recourse to established methods taught
within some established classroom.  Indeed, people at the post-graduate
level are expected to create the *new* textbooks and the *new* curriculum
that reflects the new knowledge.

I would be wary of any college of university that actually required
the completion of advanced classroom coursework.  This would not
foster an intellectual independence.  In fact, it would do just the
opposite by breeding a dependence on some external authority for
the discovery of knowledge.

As you should have noticed, I am now creating the new way of apprehending
the world by advocating the complete abandonment of the 3D Euclidean
perspective and the exclusive reliance on 4D Minkowski spacetime.
Physics education must now *begin* with coordinate transformation, tensor
analysis, and differential geometry.  There is to be no more "beating
around the bush" with useless and obfuscating approximations.

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Why Still Old Framework? Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-07-30 20:09 +0000
  Re: Why Still Old Framework? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-07-31 20:29 -0500
    Re: Why Still Old Framework? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-08-02 16:51 -0500
  Re: Why Still Old Framework? Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-08-01 02:23 +0000
    Re: Why Still Old Framework? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-08-02 16:49 -0500
      Re: Why Still Old Framework? Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-08-03 12:42 +0000
        Re: Why Still Old Framework? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-08-03 08:51 -0500
          Re: Why Still Old Framework? Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-08-03 16:52 +0000
            Re: Why Still Old Framework? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-08-03 12:01 -0500
        Re: Why Still Old Framework? Poutnik <Poutnik4NNTP@gmail.com> - 2015-08-03 15:53 +0200
          Re: Why Still Old Framework? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-08-03 09:14 -0500
            Re: Why Still Old Framework? "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2015-08-03 09:08 -0700
          Re: Why Still Old Framework? Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-08-03 16:27 +0000
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