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| From | Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | sci.physics |
| Subject | Re: Why Still Old Framework? |
| Date | 2015-08-03 12:42 +0000 |
| Organization | NewsGuy - Unlimited Usenet $23.95 |
| Message-ID | <pan.2015.08.03.12.41.00@localhost.localdomain> (permalink) |
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On Sun, 02 Aug 2015 16:49:26 -0500, Odd Bodkin wrote: >> >> This is how the professional education, or "formal training" as >> Odd Ball calls it, of a scientist occurs in the United States and >> probably in most of the rest of the world as well. There simply >> is no "formal training" of any kind. One either does or does not >> entirely on his own. > > I'm sorry, but you're simply full of shit. > Hardly. If you have had "formal" training, you should have realized that at the UNDERGRADUATE level, the textbook is read for the student by that idiot in front of the classroom known as the "teacher." At the POST-GRADUATE level, however, the "student" is expected to read the textbook for himself. Some institutions may offer advanced coursework for those who require a helping hand, but there should be no requirement for it. After all, post-graduate school is essentially for training scientists to solve current problems and to discover new knowledge. When probing the unknown, there can be no recourse to established methods taught within some established classroom. Indeed, people at the post-graduate level are expected to create the *new* textbooks and the *new* curriculum that reflects the new knowledge. I would be wary of any college of university that actually required the completion of advanced classroom coursework. This would not foster an intellectual independence. In fact, it would do just the opposite by breeding a dependence on some external authority for the discovery of knowledge. As you should have noticed, I am now creating the new way of apprehending the world by advocating the complete abandonment of the 3D Euclidean perspective and the exclusive reliance on 4D Minkowski spacetime. Physics education must now *begin* with coordinate transformation, tensor analysis, and differential geometry. There is to be no more "beating around the bush" with useless and obfuscating approximations.
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Why Still Old Framework? Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-07-30 20:09 +0000
Re: Why Still Old Framework? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-07-31 20:29 -0500
Re: Why Still Old Framework? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-08-02 16:51 -0500
Re: Why Still Old Framework? Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-08-01 02:23 +0000
Re: Why Still Old Framework? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-08-02 16:49 -0500
Re: Why Still Old Framework? Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-08-03 12:42 +0000
Re: Why Still Old Framework? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-08-03 08:51 -0500
Re: Why Still Old Framework? Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-08-03 16:52 +0000
Re: Why Still Old Framework? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-08-03 12:01 -0500
Re: Why Still Old Framework? Poutnik <Poutnik4NNTP@gmail.com> - 2015-08-03 15:53 +0200
Re: Why Still Old Framework? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-08-03 09:14 -0500
Re: Why Still Old Framework? "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2015-08-03 09:08 -0700
Re: Why Still Old Framework? Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-08-03 16:27 +0000
Re: time is not spatial per se (only if the flipbook store was closed Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-08-01 02:50 +0000
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Re: Why Still Old Framework? HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-08-01 06:45 -0400
Re: Why Still Old Framework? "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2015-08-02 00:12 -0700
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