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Re: Why Still Old Framework?

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On 8/3/2015 7:42 AM, Fabian Russell wrote:
> On Sun, 02 Aug 2015 16:49:26 -0500, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>
>>>
>>> This is how the professional education, or "formal training" as
>>> Odd Ball calls it, of a scientist occurs in the United States and
>>> probably in most of the rest of the world as well.  There simply
>>> is no "formal training" of any kind.  One either does or does not
>>> entirely on his own.
>>
>> I'm sorry, but you're simply full of shit.
>>
>
> Hardly.
>
> If you have had "formal" training, you should have realized that at the
> UNDERGRADUATE level, the textbook is read for the student by that idiot
> in front of the classroom known as the "teacher."

You must have had a really terrible college experience. This does not 
match at all my experience in college. No professor of mind read from 
the textbook.

>
> At the POST-GRADUATE level, however, the "student" is expected to read
> the textbook for himself.  Some institutions may offer advanced coursework
> for those who require a helping hand, but there should be no requirement
> for it.
>
> After all, post-graduate school is essentially for training scientists
> to solve current problems and to discover new knowledge.  When probing
> the unknown, there can be no recourse to established methods taught
> within some established classroom.  Indeed, people at the post-graduate
> level are expected to create the *new* textbooks and the *new* curriculum
> that reflects the new knowledge.
>
> I would be wary of any college of university that actually required
> the completion of advanced classroom coursework.

Then you are wary of graduate schools in general, as they do require 
advanced classroom coursework.

Again, I just want to point out that you earlier said that graduate 
schools DO NOT require advanced classroom coursework, which is simply a 
delusional statement. I will also repeat my earlier statement that 
delusional people cannot tell the difference between their delusions and 
reality -- that's what makes them delusional. And I'll now repeat my 
additional earlier statement that I see no point in responding seriously 
to a delusional person such as yourself, and so take this entire 
response to be only as serious as your delusional state warrants.

>  This would not
> foster an intellectual independence.  In fact, it would do just the
> opposite by breeding a dependence on some external authority for
> the discovery of knowledge.
>
> As you should have noticed, I am now creating the new way of apprehending
> the world by advocating the complete abandonment of the 3D Euclidean
> perspective and the exclusive reliance on 4D Minkowski spacetime.
> Physics education must now *begin* with coordinate transformation, tensor
> analysis, and differential geometry.  There is to be no more "beating
> around the bush" with useless and obfuscating approximations.

Frankly, I don't think anyone is going to care much what a delusional 
person who's had a serious break from reality is going to advocate, as 
the delusional person has more seriously pressing things to attend to.


-- 
Odd Bodkin --- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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Why Still Old Framework? Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-07-30 20:09 +0000
  Re: Why Still Old Framework? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-07-31 20:29 -0500
    Re: Why Still Old Framework? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-08-02 16:51 -0500
  Re: Why Still Old Framework? Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-08-01 02:23 +0000
    Re: Why Still Old Framework? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-08-02 16:49 -0500
      Re: Why Still Old Framework? Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-08-03 12:42 +0000
        Re: Why Still Old Framework? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-08-03 08:51 -0500
          Re: Why Still Old Framework? Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-08-03 16:52 +0000
            Re: Why Still Old Framework? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-08-03 12:01 -0500
        Re: Why Still Old Framework? Poutnik <Poutnik4NNTP@gmail.com> - 2015-08-03 15:53 +0200
          Re: Why Still Old Framework? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-08-03 09:14 -0500
            Re: Why Still Old Framework? "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2015-08-03 09:08 -0700
          Re: Why Still Old Framework? Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-08-03 16:27 +0000
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