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Re: Why Still Old Framework?

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On Fri, 31 Jul 2015 13:57:13 -0500, Odd Bodkin wrote:

> 
> Now, if I'm wrong 
> and you HAVE been formally trained in either mathematics or physics, 
> then simply telling me about that formal training will show my error. 
> If, however, I am right and you have no formal training in either, then 
> it doesn't matter how I arrived at the right answer.
> 

Ol' Odd Ball seems to have a bug up his ass about my educational
history.  Of course, my personal background is totally irrelevant
to any discussion, but he is quite insistent nevertheless.

Well, perhaps we should not disappoint ol' Odd Ball

In the first place, his continued use of the expression "formal
training" would tend to indicate that *he* has had no professional
level experience in any STEM discipline.  If he had, then he would
realize that the concept of "formal training" does not even exist.

The "education" of a physicist occurs at a post-graduate institution
that is chartered by the state to endow specific degrees such as
the Masters or the Doctor of Philosophy.

Now, these post-graduate institutions share a common practice: there
are no formal classes.  The "student" (actually already a professional
at this point) is expected to master the discipline entirely through
his own initiative and devices.  Although the "student" is assigned
a thesis advisor, who is sometimes called a "mentor," it is not the
task of this advisor to supervise or manage the "student" in any way.
In fact, most advisors remain quite aloof and inaccessible (my own
advisor was only rarely on the campus as he was busy with his own
private business).

This is how the professional education, or "formal training" as
Odd Ball calls it, of a scientist occurs in the United States and
probably in most of the rest of the world as well.  There simply
is no "formal training" of any kind.  One either does or does not
entirely on his own.

The fact that Odd Ball has completely missed this basic aspect
and continues to refer to "formal training" strongly indicates
that he has not ever been involved in the actual process himself.

Please do not try to castigate others to make up for your own
shortfalls.

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Why Still Old Framework? Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-07-30 20:09 +0000
  Re: Why Still Old Framework? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-07-31 20:29 -0500
    Re: Why Still Old Framework? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-08-02 16:51 -0500
  Re: Why Still Old Framework? Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-08-01 02:23 +0000
    Re: Why Still Old Framework? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-08-02 16:49 -0500
      Re: Why Still Old Framework? Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-08-03 12:42 +0000
        Re: Why Still Old Framework? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-08-03 08:51 -0500
          Re: Why Still Old Framework? Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-08-03 16:52 +0000
            Re: Why Still Old Framework? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-08-03 12:01 -0500
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          Re: Why Still Old Framework? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-08-03 09:14 -0500
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