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| Subject | Re: The wings folded back like a birds wings going into a birdhouse |
| References | <bMedneXaFfx7OUrInZ2dnUU7-Y2dnZ2d@giganews.com> <648cd79fd6b7856ac331c02ba509acc7@dizum.com> <op.x3r0voqdtm21m2@benson.localhost> <15e741243654b01d2b0c90b60aab7c47@dizum.com> |
| Date | 2015-08-22 15:08 -0400 |
| From | "\"Fakey's\" dogwhistle holder living at 5907 Stanton Ave., Pittsburgh, PA (aka Teh Mop Jockey), socked up as 5907 Stanton Avenue, Pittsburgh, PA 15206-2117" <root@127.0.0.1> |
| Organization | AUKTard Polizia |
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On Sat, 22 Aug 2015 12:47:29 -0400, Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler
Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> wrote:
> Time to spin the kooks up again. Melt, kooks, melt. <snicker>
>
> Robert M. Wolfe the Pittsburgh Pied Piper Of Penis (aka
> DildoRider) of 5907 Stanton Ave., Pittsburgh, PA (aka Teh Mop
> Jockey), socked up as root@127.0.0.1, in
> <news:op.x3r0voqdtm21m2@benson.localhost> did thusly jump head
> first into the wood chipper again:
>
>> On Sat, 22 Aug 2015 00:44:07 -0400,
>> Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus
>> <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> wrote:
>
>>> Time to spin the kooks up again. Melt, kooks, melt. <snicker>
>>>
>>> Rocky, in <news:bMedneXaFfx7OUrInZ2dnUU7-Y2dnZ2d@giganews.com>
>>> did thusly jump head first into the wood chipper again:
>
>>>> F<SMACKAKOOK!>
>
>>> <http://911review.com/errors/pentagon/nodebris.html>
>>>
>>> <http://www.popularmechanics.com/military/a5659/debunking-911-myths-pentagon/>
>>>
>>> <http://911research.wtc7.net/pentagon/analysis/conclusions/debris.html>
>>>
>>> <http://www.rense.com/general32/phot.htm>
>>>
>>> Look at all those photos showing plane debris, both outside and
>>> *inside* the Pentagon. Hull pieces, the wheel rim of (surprise!
>>> surprise! surprise!) a Boeing 757, a chunk of (surprise!
>>> surprise! surprise! the Boeing 757 nose cone that actually
>>> punched all the way through to A-E Drive, turbine compressor
>>> parts from (surprise! surprise! surprise!) a Boeing 757, and a
>>> shitload of small plane chunks directly in front of the building,
>>> exactly as one would expect from those once-together chunks
>>> slamming into and through concrete at 400 MPH. And that's not to
>>> mention the eyewitnesses *and* video of the crash.
>>>
>>> <http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/911_pentagon_eyewitnesses.html>
>>>
>>> And wouldn't you know it, the pre-collapse punch-through hole on
>>> the outer Pentagon matches what one would expect to see from a
>>> 757 hitting it at near ground level... that pilot was relying on
>>> ground effect to keep the aircraft just off the ground, and
>>> rammed it in at full throttle.
>>>
>>> Here's what the hole in the Pentagon looked like:
>>> <http://whatreallyhappened.com/IMAGES/pentagon_precollapse-marked.jpg>
>>> <http://whatreallyhappened.com/IMAGES/pentagon_boeing_large.jpg>
>>>
>>> You'll note the starboard wing was clipped by the generator unit,
>>> shortening the length of the starboard wing punch-through hole to
>>> the right of the main body punch-through hole.
>>>
>>> Blast expert Allyn E. Kilsheimer was the first structural
>>> engineer to arrive at the Pentagon after the crash and helped
>>> coordinate the emergency response. "It was absolutely a plane,
>>> and I'll tell you why," says Kilsheimer, CEO of KCE Structural
>>> Engineers PC, Washington, D.C. "I saw the marks of the plane wing
>>> on the face of the building. I picked up parts of the plane with
>>> the airline markings on them. I held in my hand the tail section
>>> of the plane, and I found the black box."
>>>
>>> Whoopsie... they found the black box? Why, that'd let them piece
>>> together the entire chronology of the event... and that
>>> chronology proves you're a gullible fuckwit for believing any of
>>> this 9/11 truther bullshit.
>>>
>>> You've been lied to and manipulated by attention-seeking media
>>> whores who concocted a story to blame the government they hated
>>> (remember, the truther movement started amongst LibTards during a
>>> Republican administration) for the attacks. It's a good thing
>>> only broken-brained kooks like you believe their bullshit,
>>> otherwise their kooky tactic would have actually worked.
>>>
>>> I'm sure the more astute amongst us will notice the parallels to
>>> the libtard Klimate Katastrophe Kooks and their "zOMG! Globular
>>> Warmings!" lying blather.
>>>
>>> Now shut the fuck up and crawl back into that welfare single-wide
>>> hole you call a home, you pathetic mindless fuckwit. You're
>>> nothing more than a laughingstock.
>>>
>>> Kook. LOL
>
>> tell him about how you k0okily believe that climate change isn't caused
>> by
>> man at all, you guys might get along.
>
> I'd rather tell him about a bootfucked dildoriding trannytard who
> hijacks threads to mewl out his pathetic butthurt over having
> been proven wrong about his kooktard "zOMG! Globular Warmings!"
> Chicken Little alarmist bullshit. LOL
>
> Rocky, meet DildoRider. He's as delusional as you, just in a
> different genre. And as is typical for all libtards, he's
> clue-repellant. LOL
>
> Klimate Katastrophe Kook K'lame #1: Climate reacts to whatever
> forces it to change at the time; humans are now the dominant
> forcing
>
> SPNAK! #1
> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> Not according to a former IPCC lead author.
> Message-ID: <71581f83f38e08d06eae2b440227d0ff@dizum.com>
> <http://dailycaller.com/2015/05/22/former-un-lead-author-global-warming-caused-by-natural-variations-in-climate/>
> <http://multi-science.atypon.com/doi/abs/10.1260/0958-305X.26.3.417>
> <http://multi-science.atypon.com/doi/pdf/10.1260/0958-305X.26.3.417>
> =================================================
> Global temperature change observed over the last hundred years or
> so is well within the natural variability of the last 8,000
> years, according to a new paper by a former Intergovernmental
> Panel On Climate Change (IPCC) lead author.
>
> Dr. Philip Lloyd, a South Africa-based physicist and climate
> researcher, examined ice core-based temperature data going back
> 8,000 years to gain perspective on the magnitude of global
> temperature changes over the 20th Century.
>
> What Lloyd found was that the standard deviation of the
> temperature over the last 8,000 years was about 0.98 degrees
> Celsius - higher than the 0.85 degrees climate scientists say the
> world has warmed over the last century.
>
> "This suggests that while some portion of the temperature change
> observed in the 20th century was probably caused by greenhouse
> gases, there is a strong likelihood that the major portion was
> due to natural variations", Lloyd wrote in his study.
>
> But even surface temperature data showed a hiatus in warming for
> about 15 years or so. Scientists have offered up dozens of
> explanations for why global temperatures have been flat since the
> late 1990s. The most prominent explanation is that oceans have
> been absorbing most of the "heat" from increased greenhouse gas
> emissions, meaning surface temperatures show less warming than
> they otherwise would.
>
> =================================================
> {NOTE: That's entirely untrue. NASA JPL itself did the research
> and determined that ocean temperature at depth had not changed
> one iota.
>
> <http://science.nasa.gov/science-news/science-at-nasa/2014/06oct_abyss/>
> <http://iceagenow.info/2014/10/nasa-stumped-deep-oceans-warmed-2005/>
> "When scientists at NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory (JPL) in
> Pasadena, California, analyzed satellite and direct ocean
> temperature data from 2005 to 2013, they found that "the ocean
> abyss below 1.24 miles (1,995 meters) has not warmed measurably",
> the space agency announced in a press release on Monday.
> =================================================
> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>
> That's a peer-reviewed paper, from a former IPCC Lead Author,
> calling the Klimate Katastrophe Kooks on their alarmist bullshit.
> LOL
>
> The *only* "global warming" is that which resides in those flawed
> computer climate models the libtard environmental whackadoodles
> keep trying to sell.
>
> ===============================================================
> Taken from the hacked ClimateGate 1.0 and ClimateGate 2.0 emails:
> <http://tomnelson.blogspot.com/2012/01/email-4141-glimpse-into-climate-science.html>
> "I think the notion of telling the public to prepare for both
> global warming and an ice age at the same time creates a real
> public relations problem for us."
> - Asher Minns, "climate scientist" from scandal-rocked
> University of East Anglia, letting the cat completely out of the
> bag.
> ===============================================================
>
> You poor bootfucked-by-reality Klimate Katastrophe Kooks *still*
> can't explain that 18 year 10 month "global warming" pause.
> Because you're delusional, dishonest and stupid.
>
> <snicker>
>
tell him how you "astrally project" your fear of someone knowing your
*true* self.
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The wings folded back like a birds wings going into a birdhouse "Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> - 2015-08-21 17:22 -0500
Re: The wings folded back like a birds wings going into a birdhouse burfordtjustice <burford@uk.mo> - 2015-08-21 18:54 -0400
Re: The wings folded back like a birds wings going into a birdhouse jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-08-21 22:56 +0000
Re: The wings folded back like a birds wings going into a birdhouse gilber34 <invalid@invalid.com> - 2015-08-21 18:59 -0500
Re: The wings folded back like a birds wings going into a birdhouse Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> - 2015-08-22 06:44 +0200
Re: The wings folded back like a birds wings going into a birdhouse "\"Fakey's\" dogwhistle holder living at 5907 Stanton Ave., Pittsburgh, PA (aka Teh Mop Jockey), socked up as 5907 Stanton Avenue, Pittsburgh, PA 15206-2117" <root@127.0.0.1> - 2015-08-22 11:48 -0400
Re: The wings folded back like a birds wings going into a birdhouse Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> - 2015-08-22 18:47 +0200
Re: The wings folded back like a birds wings going into a birdhouse "\"Fakey's\" dogwhistle holder living at 5907 Stanton Ave., Pittsburgh, PA (aka Teh Mop Jockey), socked up as 5907 Stanton Avenue, Pittsburgh, PA 15206-2117" <root@127.0.0.1> - 2015-08-22 15:08 -0400
Re: The wings folded back like a birds wings going into a birdhouse Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> - 2015-08-22 21:46 +0200
Re: The wings folded back like a birds wings going into a birdhouse "Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> - 2015-08-22 20:06 -0500
Re: The wings folded back like a birds wings going into a birdhouse "%" <persent@gmail.com> - 2015-08-22 18:54 -0700
Re: The wings folded back like a birds wings going into a birdhouse Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> - 2015-08-23 04:07 +0200
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Re: The wings folded back like a birds wings going into a birdhouse "\"Fakey's\" dogwhistle holder living at 5907 Stanton Ave., Pittsburgh, PA (aka Teh Mop Jockey), socked up as 5907 Stanton Avenue, Pittsburgh, PA 15206-2117" <root@127.0.0.1> - 2015-08-23 03:59 -0400
Re: The wings folded back like a birds wings going into a birdhouse Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> - 2015-08-23 17:43 +0200
Re: The wings folded back like a birds wings going into a birdhouse "Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> - 2015-08-22 12:04 -0500
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Re: The wings folded back like a birds wings going into a birdhouse "Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> - 2015-08-22 19:44 -0500
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Re: The wings folded back like a birds wings going into a birdhouse "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2015-08-23 06:43 -0500
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Re: The wings folded back like a birds wings going into a birdhouse "Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> - 2015-08-22 19:54 -0500
Re: The wings folded back like a birds wings going into a birdhouse "%" <persent@gmail.com> - 2015-08-22 18:54 -0700
Re: The wings folded back like a birds wings going into a birdhouse "Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> - 2015-08-22 20:53 -0500
Re: The wings folded back like a birds wings going into a birdhouse "%" <persent@gmail.com> - 2015-08-22 19:01 -0700
Re: The wings folded back like a birds wings going into a birdhouse "Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> - 2015-08-22 21:02 -0500
Re: The wings folded back like a birds wings going into a birdhouse "%" <persent@gmail.com> - 2015-08-22 19:49 -0700
Re: The wings folded back like a birds wings going into a birdhouse jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-08-23 05:26 +0000
? 4 Jim about why the Twin Towers look like they were nuked (was: The wings folded back like a birds wings going into a birdhouse) "Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> - 2015-08-23 05:42 -0500
Re: ? 4 Jim about why the Twin Towers look like they were nuked (was: The wings folded back like a birds wings going into a birdhouse) je suis charly <charlie-gordon1492@no.where> - 2015-08-23 04:07 -0700
2 je suis charly was: ? 4 Jim about why the Twin Towers look like they were nuked (was: The wings folded back like a birds wings going into a birdhouse) "Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> - 2015-08-23 14:52 -0500
Re: 2 je suis charly was: ? 4 Jim about why the Twin Towers look like they were nuked (was: The wings folded back like a birds wings going into a birdhouse) je suis charly <charlie-gordon1492@no.where> - 2015-08-23 13:28 -0700
Re: 2 je suis charly was: ? 4 Jim about why the Twin Towers look like they were nuked jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-08-23 20:20 +0000
Re: ? 4 Jim about why the Twin Towers look like they were nuked Tony Dragon <tony.dragon@btinternet.com> - 2015-08-23 12:15 +0100
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seismic evidence is inconsistent (was: ? 4 Jim about why the Twin Towers look like they were nuked) "Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> - 2015-08-23 07:35 -0500
Re: seismic evidence is inconsistent (was: ? 4 Jim about why the Twin Towers look like they were nuked) "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2015-08-23 08:42 -0500
Kent the bullshitter keeps bullshitting (was: seismic evidence is inconsistent (was: ? 4 Jim about why the Twin Towers look like they were nuked)) "Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> - 2015-08-23 09:05 -0500
Re: Kent the bullshitter keeps bullshitting (was: seismic evidence is inconsistent Tony Dragon <tony.dragon@btinternet.com> - 2015-08-23 18:03 +0100
T-annoy the pain keeps keeps the bullshit going (was: seismic evidence is inconsistent ) "Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> - 2015-08-23 12:53 -0500
Re: T-annoy the pain keeps keeps the bullshit going jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-08-23 18:19 +0000
Re: T-annoy the pain keeps keeps the bullshit going Tony Dragon <tony.dragon@btinternet.com> - 2015-08-23 21:33 +0100
Re: Kent the bullshitter keeps bullshitting jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-08-23 17:13 +0000
Re: Kent the bullshitter keeps bullshitting (was: seismic evidence is inconsistent (was: ? 4 Jim about why the Twin Towers look like they were nuked)) "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2015-08-23 14:04 -0500
Re: Kent the bullshitter keeps bullshitting (was: seismic evidence is inconsistent (was: ? 4 Jim about why the Twin Towers look like they were nuked)) "Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> - 2015-08-23 14:18 -0500
Re: Kent the bullshitter keeps bullshitting jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-08-23 19:50 +0000
Jim the bullshitter keeps bullshitting "Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> - 2015-08-23 15:28 -0500
Re: Jim the bullshitter keeps bullshitting jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-08-23 20:40 +0000
Re: Jim the bullshitter keeps bullshitting je suis charly <charlie-gordon1492@no.where> - 2015-08-23 14:20 -0700
Re: Kent the bullshitter keeps bullshitting (was: seismic evidence is inconsistent Tony Dragon <tony.dragon@btinternet.com> - 2015-08-23 21:33 +0100
Re: Kent the bullshitter keeps bullshitting (was: seismic evidence is inconsistent "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2015-08-24 04:08 -0500
Re: Kent the bullshitter keeps bullshitting (was: seismic evidence is inconsistent (was: ? 4 Jim about why the Twin Towers look like they were nuked)) "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2015-08-24 04:03 -0500
Re: Kent the bullshitter keeps bullshitting (was: seismic evidence is inconsistent Tony Dragon <tony.dragon@btinternet.com> - 2015-08-23 21:33 +0100
Re: seismic evidence is inconsistent jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-08-23 17:11 +0000
Re: ? 4 Jim about why the Twin Towers look like they were nuked (was: The wings folded back like a birds wings going into a birdhouse) "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2015-08-23 06:46 -0500
Re: ? 4 Jim about why the Twin Towers look like they were nuked jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-08-23 17:08 +0000
Re: The wings folded back like a birds wings going into a birdhouse "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2015-08-23 06:45 -0500
Re: The wings folded back like a birds wings going into a birdhouse jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-08-23 05:24 +0000
Re: The wings folded back like a birds wings going into a birdhouse "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2015-08-23 06:44 -0500
Re: The wings folded back like a birds wings going into a birdhouse Siri Cruz <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2015-08-23 05:09 -0700
Re: The wings folded back like a birds wings going into a birdhouse "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2015-08-23 08:40 -0500
Re: The wings folded back like a birds wings going into a birdhouse Siri Cruz <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2015-08-23 09:36 -0700
Re: The wings folded back like a birds wings going into a birdhouse "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2015-08-23 14:07 -0500
Re: The wings folded back like a birds wings going into a birdhouse Siri Cruz <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2015-08-23 13:03 -0700
Re: The wings folded back like a birds wings going into a birdhouse BDK <Control@Worldcontrol.com> - 2015-08-24 11:59 -0400
Re: The wings folded back like a birds wings going into a birdhouse "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2015-08-24 19:57 -0500
Re: The wings folded back like a birds wings going into a birdhouse Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> - 2015-08-22 21:35 +0200
Re: The wings folded back like a birds wings going into a birdhouse "Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> - 2015-08-22 19:41 -0500
Re: The wings folded back like a birds wings going into a birdhouse "%" <persent@gmail.com> - 2015-08-22 17:55 -0700
Re: The wings folded back like a birds wings going into a birdhouse "Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> - 2015-08-22 20:13 -0500
Re: The wings folded back like a birds wings going into a birdhouse "%" <persent@gmail.com> - 2015-08-22 18:55 -0700
Re: The wings folded back like a birds wings going into a birdhouse Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> - 2015-08-23 03:44 +0200
Re: The wings folded back like a birds wings going into a birdhouse "Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> - 2015-08-22 20:50 -0500
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Re: The wings folded back like a birds wings going into a birdhouse "Ming Tiggle" <none@nomail.com> - 2015-08-21 21:53 -0700
Re: The wings folded back like a birds wings going into a birdhouse "Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> - 2015-08-22 09:55 -0500
Re: The wings folded back like a birds wings going into a birdhouse "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2015-08-22 12:54 -0500
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