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Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9

From jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com
Newsgroups sci.space.policy, sci.physics, sci.astro
Subject Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9
Date 2016-07-12 18:08 +0000
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In sci.physics Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> wrote:
> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:

<snip>

 
> I never said any such thing.  Please stop listening to the little
> voices in your head AND READ THE BLOODY WORDS.

The words as you choose to define them after the fact.

<snip>

> I also deny that I'm the love child of Hitler and Mussolini.  I deny
> it because it's hogwash, like what your little voices are telling you.

Childish attack mode when backed into a corner.

<snip>
 
> I've said no such thing.  You really cannot read simple English, can
> you?

You actually insisted it must be so. Do you not read your own "BLOODY WORDS"?

<snip>

> True, but irrelevant.  It goes back to the start of the thread
> (obviously) which is 'all along' in the context of the discussion.

Backed into a corner and grasping at symantic.

> You started it, Chimp.  Now when it's done back to you it's "childish
> insults".  That pretty much says it all.  Giant Ego thinks it gets a
> different set of rules.

Backed into a corner and in attack mode.

All this started when I commented on someone else's post. You are the
one that jumped in with both feet.

<snip>

>>Rockets do not have anything to do with aircraft certification.
>>
> 
> Who said it did?  The only thing in need of 'certification' here
> appears to be you.

You are the one that brought up "fucking rockets".

Are ""fucking rockets" different than any other kind of rockets?

<snip>

> Still unable to read English and listening to the tiny voices in your
> head, are you?

Still trying to spin and deny what you have said over and over?

<snip>

> Precisely.  You were the one wanking on as if they were required.

What were required?

>>Maintenance manuals written by sane people say what to do, the do NOT
>>say what NOT to do.
>>
> 
> Actually, that's not quite true.  Look for all those coloured boxes
> labeled "Warning" and "Caution".

Which have nothing to do with not inspecting something.

BTW I have never seen either a colored or coloured box labeled "Warning"
or "Caution" in an aircraft maintenance manual.

>>This is just more childish twaddle for the sake of arguement.
>>
> 
> Good of you to label your output, but I think folks have figured you
> out by now.

See above about colored boxes.

<snip>

> Yes, and you say the 100 hours inspections actually add up to a 12
> month inspection, too.  So you only check engine oil and tires every
> 100 hours?  Even if they only need it every 300 hours?

Actually, oil and tires are checked every time before flight during the
preflight inspection, which has NOTHING to do with the maintenance
manual, as it is part of the operational manual.

But since you know nothing about aviation I would not expect you to
know that.

> Your answer will no doubt be that those items would then only be
> included in every third 100 hour inspection.  AND WHERE DOES THAT
> NUMBER TRACE BACK TO?

What number?

<snip>

> Yes, and you say the 100 hours inspections actually add up to a 12
> month inspection, too.  So you only check engine oil and tires every
> 100 hours?  Even if they only need it every 300 hours?

Actually, oil and tires are checked every time before flight during the
preflight inspection, which has NOTHING to do with the maintenance
manual, as it is part of the operational manual.

> Your answer will no doubt be that those items would then only be
> included in every third 100 hour inspection.  AND WHERE DOES THAT
> NUMBER TRACE BACK TO?

What number?

<snip>

> And how do you arrive at your conclusions about how frequently a given
> item must be tested?  Where do those numbers trace back to?

Nothing is tested during on going maintenance, it is inspected at
least once in 12 months.

> Yes, and you say the 100 hours inspections actually add up to a 12
> month inspection, too.  So you only check engine oil and tires every
> 100 hours?  Even if they only need it every 300 hours?

Actually, oil and tires are checked every time before flight during the
preflight inspection, which has NOTHING to do with the maintenance
manual, as it is part of the operational manual.

> Your answer will no doubt be that those items would then only be
> included in every third 100 hour inspection.  AND WHERE DOES THAT
> NUMBER TRACE BACK TO?

What number?

<snip>

> Yes, and you say the 100 hours inspections actually add up to a 12
> month inspection, too.  So you only check engine oil and tires every
> 100 hours?  Even if they only need it every 300 hours?

Actually, oil and tires are checked every time before flight during the
preflight inspection, which has NOTHING to do with the maintenance
manual, as it is part of the operational manual.

> Your answer will no doubt be that those items would then only be
> included in every third 100 hour inspection.  AND WHERE DOES THAT
> NUMBER TRACE BACK TO?

What number?

<snip>

> Your answer will no doubt be that those items would then only be
> included in every third 100 hour inspection.  AND WHERE DOES THAT
> NUMBER TRACE BACK TO?

What number?

<snip>

>>Tell that to the FAA.
>>
> 
> It certainly sounds like someone should, but I suspect that's already
> been done and it doesn't actually work the braindead way you make it
> sound like it works.

You have no clue how any of it works because you know nothing about
aviation and all the regulations that govern it and are basing everything
you say on what YOU think things should be.

The FAA bases the requirments on about a century worth of accumulated
knowledge which seems to be working pretty well and when something
isn't working, the regulations are changed.

<snip>

>>> You still don't seem to get that it's possible to put in a higher
>>> periodicity of maintenance part and SAVE maintenance hours overall.
>>
>>That has never been shown to be true in the entire history of aviation.
>>
> 
> Bullshit.  Now you're just making shit up.

So show some actual data or shut the fuck up about it.

> Let us suppose that I have a bunch of cables and pulleys and such that
> require annual maintenance.  Let's say there are 10 of them and each
> cable requires 10 hours of maintenance a year, for a total maintenance
> requirement per year of 100 hours.  Suppose further that each cable
> must be replaced every 5 years for an additional 25 hours per cable.
> Now suppose that I replace all those cables with a set of cable runs
> that only require a 5 hour inspection every 5 years and never require
> replacement, a set of 10 motors that only require a 1 hour inspection
> every year, and a control computer for the whole works that requires a
> 5 minute inspection/test every 100 hours.  

A total fair tale scenario that also shows you know nothing about how
aircraft systems work.

> Original maintenance budget over 5 years was 750 hours.  Maintenance
> budget with the 'high inspection' computer is less than 700 hours and
> almost all of that is the result of those 5 minute computer checks
> (and assuming a preposterously high flight rate).  Since it's a 5
> minute check it can be done overnight.  Maintenance time reduced by
> adding a preposterously high periodicity check.

In your fairy tale world, but not in the real world of aviation.

For starters, for airplanes with cables, the cable would be checked
for slack or play around the pulleys and the pulleys would be inspected
for wear. As cables come in pairs, you would do both at the same time
and it would take all of about a minute. The idea of having a computer
contolled cable and pulley system in an airplane is just ludicrous.

<snip giant pile of nonsense spew>

> Whether it needs it or not.  And how do you decide just which bits
> need it every 100 hours?  Periodicity must be specified SOMEWHERE for
> that part.  You say the maintenance manual doesn't have it, so where
> is it?

FAA requlations.

<snip>

>>> Every 12 months whether it needs it or not and whether that's too long
>>> or not.  Yeah, right.
>>
>>Yeah, right, it is the fucking law.
>>
> 
> Then the law, sir, is an ass.

So here we have it, McCrap who knows nothing about aviation knows better
what is to be done than the FAA with about a century's worth of
accumulated knowledge and thousands of actual aviation professionals.

<snip remaining crap>

-- 
Jim Pennino

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                Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-07-03 05:56 +0000
                Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-07-04 20:53 -0700
                Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-07-05 06:11 +0000
                Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-07-07 17:12 -0700
                Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-07-08 01:12 +0000
                Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-07-09 02:08 -0700
                Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-07-09 17:23 +0000
                Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-07-10 11:38 -0700
                Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-07-10 19:57 +0000
                Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-07-11 00:35 -0700
                Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-07-11 15:59 +0000
                Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-07-12 10:01 -0700
                Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-07-12 18:29 +0000
                Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-07-12 18:09 -0700
                Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-07-13 03:14 +0000
                Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2016-07-02 23:03 -0400
                Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-07-03 05:57 +0000
                Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2016-06-24 22:44 -0400
                Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 Jeff Findley <jfindley@cinci.nospam.rr.com> - 2016-06-25 08:57 -0400
                Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2016-06-25 14:31 -0400
                Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 Jeff Findley <jfindley@cinci.nospam.rr.com> - 2016-06-25 16:39 -0400
                Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 "Greg \(Strider\) Moore" <mooregr@deletethisgreenms.com> - 2016-06-25 16:43 -0400
                Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2016-06-26 00:05 -0400
                Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 Jeff Findley <jfindley@cinci.nospam.rr.com> - 2016-06-26 15:40 -0400
                Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 Dr J R Stockton <reply1600@merlyn.demon.co.uk.invalid> - 2016-06-27 21:31 +0100
                Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 Jeff Findley <jfindley@cinci.nospam.rr.com> - 2016-06-28 06:18 -0400
                Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 "Greg \(Strider\) Moore" <mooregr@deletethisgreenms.com> - 2016-06-26 22:29 -0400
                Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-06-30 23:36 -0700
                Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-06-30 23:28 -0700
                Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-06-23 00:26 -0700
                Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-06-22 12:36 -0700
                Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-06-21 06:31 -0700
                Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 Rick Jones <rick.jones2@hpe.com> - 2016-06-21 15:37 +0000
                Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 Jeff Findley <jfindley@cinci.nospam.rr.com> - 2016-06-21 18:27 -0400
                Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-06-20 20:11 -0700
                Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 "Greg \(Strider\) Moore" <mooregr@deletethisgreenms.com> - 2016-06-21 09:02 -0400
                Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-06-21 07:59 -0700
                Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 Jonathan <writeInstead@gmail.com> - 2016-07-03 05:12 -0400
                Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-07-04 20:55 -0700
                Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 Jeff Findley <jfindley@cinci.nospam.rr.com> - 2016-07-05 06:06 -0400
                Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 Vaughn Simon <vaughnsimon@gmail.com> - 2016-06-20 20:04 -0400
                Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 Jeff Findley <jfindley@cinci.nospam.rr.com> - 2016-06-20 21:59 -0400
                Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2016-06-21 01:42 -0400
                Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 Jeff Findley <jfindley@cinci.nospam.rr.com> - 2016-06-21 06:21 -0400
                Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2016-06-21 13:36 -0400
                Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-06-21 06:34 -0700
                Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2016-06-21 13:54 -0400
                Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-06-22 10:24 -0700
                Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 Vaughn Simon <vaughnsimon@gmail.com> - 2016-06-21 07:42 -0400
                Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-06-20 20:12 -0700
        Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-06-18 04:30 -0700
          Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2016-06-18 12:45 -0400
            Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-06-19 08:37 -0700
          Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 "Greg \(Strider\) Moore" <mooregr@deletethisgreenms.com> - 2016-06-18 14:27 -0400
    Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-06-18 04:18 -0700
  Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 Jeff Findley <jfindley@cinci.nospam.rr.com> - 2016-06-17 06:25 -0400

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