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On 17/05/2018 11:18 AM, Sergio wrote: > On 5/16/2018 4:57 PM, Trevor Wilson wrote: >> On 14/05/2018 11:09 AM, Sergio wrote: >>> On 5/13/2018 8:01 PM, Trevor Wilson wrote: >>>> On 14/05/2018 10:58 AM, Sergio wrote: >>>>> On 5/13/2018 7:04 PM, Trevor Wilson wrote: >>>>>> On 14/05/2018 9:26 AM, Sergio wrote: >>>>>>> On 5/13/2018 5:29 PM, Trevor Wilson wrote: >>>>>>>> On 14/05/2018 7:39 AM, Sergio wrote: >>>>>>>>> On 5/13/2018 2:50 PM, Trevor Wilson wrote: >>>>>>>>>> On 14/05/2018 5:27 AM, Wally W. wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 14 May 2018 05:10:15 +1000, Trevor Wilson wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On 14/05/2018 4:56 AM, Wally W. wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> BTW: What "problem?" >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> **Are you serious? Since the industrial revolution, humans >>>>>>>>>>>>>> have >>>>>>>>>>>>>> contributed more than 30% more CO2 into the atmosphere of this >>>>>>>>>>>>>> planet. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> That extra CO2 has caused the planet to warm. The warming is >>>>>>>>>>>>>> causing and >>>>>>>>>>>>>> will cause severe problems for our civilisation. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> So you say. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> **Nope. _I_ don't say so at all. Every climatologist >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Many disagree: >>>>>>>>>>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_scientists_who_disagree_with_the_scientific_consensus_on_global_warming> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> **You appear to think that what geographers, geologists, >>>>>>>>>> botanists and >>>>>>>>>> other scientists, who work in unrelated fields to CLIMATOLOGY >>>>>>>>>> matter in >>>>>>>>>> this debate. I have news for you: When I stated CLIMATOLOGISTS, >>>>>>>>>> that is >>>>>>>>>> precisely what I meant. ALL the agree that humans have >>>>>>>>>> caused the observed warming. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> no, not "all" climatologists, you are making stuff up. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> **OK, then, how many climatologists dispute that anthropogenic >>>>>>>> CO2 is >>>>>>>> causing the present warming? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> **OK, then, how many climatologists dispute that anthropogenic CO2 is >>>>>> causing the present warming? >>>> >>>> **OK, then, how many climatologists dispute that anthropogenic CO2 is >>>> causing the present warming? >> >> **OK, then, how many climatologists dispute that anthropogenic CO2 is >> causing the present warming? >> > > I sent out an email, they will get back with me. **Only one? More? How many emails? To whom? > >> >>>> >>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> "observed" by satellite ? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Show me an error analysis, >>>>>>>>> what bands of IR are used? >>>>>>>>> how wide are the filters? >>>>>>>>> is the actual surface temp measured ? >>>>>>>>> what emissivity is assumed? >>>>>>>>> is the air temp within 1000' of the ground measured ? >>>>>>>>> how much does water vapor affect the accuracy? >>>>>>>>> what is the accuracy of the sensor platform ? >>>>>>>>> sunlit vs dark ? >>>>>>>>> how are clouds screened out of measurements ? >>>>>>>>> how many types of sensor systems are used ? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> and so on....... >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> **OK, time for you to do some learning, Mr 0.3%. Here is my >>>>>>>> reference: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> http://www.ipcc.ch/report/ar5/ >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> If you REALLY want answers to your questions (and I do not, for one >>>>>>>> millisecond believe that you interested in knowledge in the >>>>>>>> slightest), >>>>>>>> then read the IPCC reports. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> sure, lets go look at the data >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> https://data.giss.nasa.gov/gistemp/tabledata_v3/GLB.Ts.txt >>>>>>> (monthly averages of varances from what? and from what stations?) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Sources: *GHCN-v3* 1880-03/2018 (meteorological stations only) >>>>>>> using *elimination of outliers* and *homogeneity >>>>>>> adjustment* >>>>>>> Notes: 1950 DJF = Dec 1949 - Feb 1950 ; ***** = missing >>>>>>> >>>>>>> => so the data has been manulipulated >>>>>>> *elimination of outliers* >>>>>>> *homogeneity adjustment* (the more grievous one) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> look at GHCN-v1 vs. GHCN-v3 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> https://wattsupwiththat.com/2012/06/22/comparing-ghcn-v1-and-v3/ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> "World Meteorological Organization (WMO) to collect all available >>>>>>> temperature data from member countries. before 1980's these were >>>>>>> in the >>>>>>> form of logbooks or other non-digital records." >>>>>>> >>>>>>> =>which means they are NOT accurate to within 1 degree C, and the >>>>>>> time >>>>>>> of measurment is questionable, and all earth locations were not used, >>>>>>> and no ocean temps were used. >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> **OK, so what did you find in the IPCC documents that support your >>>>>> insanity? >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> whish!!!!!!! right over your head >>>> >>>> **OK, so what did you find in the IPCC documents that support your >>>> insanity? >> >> **OK, so what did you find in the IPCC documents that support your >> insanity? > > munged data, tripple averaged, smoothed, points excluded, 99.9% of > temperature data points missing from the rest of earths surface, no > error analysis. **Let me be more precise, as I expect much more from you. Please issue a page by page critique of IPCC AR5. Provide supporting cites for your critique. Unsupported criticisms are unhelpful and smack of very lazy science. > >> >> >>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>>> here you go, read it for the first time >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Sources: *GHCN-v3* 1880-03/2018 (meteorological stations only) >>>>>>> using *elimination of outliers* and *homogeneity >>>>>>> adjustment* >>>>>>> Notes: 1950 DJF = Dec 1949 - Feb 1950 ; ***** = missing >>>>>>> >>>>>>> => so the data has been manulipulated >>>>>>> *elimination of outliers* >>>>>>> *homogeneity adjustment* (the more grievous one) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> look at GHCN-v1 vs. GHCN-v3 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> https://wattsupwiththat.com/2012/06/22/comparing-ghcn-v1-and-v3/ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> "World Meteorological Organization (WMO) to collect all available >>>>>>> temperature data from member countries. before 1980's these were >>>>>>> in the >>>>>>> form of logbooks or other non-digital records." >>>>>>> >>>>>>> =>which means they are NOT accurate to within 1 degree C, and the >>>>>>> time >>>>>>> of measurment is questionable, and all earth locations were not used, >>>>>>> and no ocean temps were used. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Sources: *GHCN-v3* 1880-03/2018 (meteorological stations only) >>>>>>> using *elimination of outliers* and *homogeneity >>>>>>> adjustment* >>>>>>> Notes: 1950 DJF = Dec 1949 - Feb 1950 ; ***** = missing >>>>>>> >>>>>>> => so the data has been manulipulated >>>>>>> *elimination of outliers* >>>>>>> *homogeneity adjustment* (the more grievous one) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> look at GHCN-v1 vs. GHCN-v3 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> https://wattsupwiththat.com/2012/06/22/comparing-ghcn-v1-and-v3/ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> "World Meteorological Organization (WMO) to collect all available >>>>>>> temperature data from member countries. before 1980's these were >>>>>>> in the >>>>>>> form of logbooks or other non-digital records." >>>>>>> >>>>>>> =>which means they are NOT accurate to within 1 degree C, and the >>>>>>> time >>>>>>> of measurment is questionable, and all earth locations were not used, >>>>>>> and no ocean temps were used. >>>> >>>> >>>> **OK, so what did you find in the IPCC documents that support your >>>> insanity? >>>> >>>> **OK, then, how many climatologists dispute that anthropogenic CO2 is >>>> causing the present warming? >> >> **OK, so what did you find in the IPCC documents that support your >> insanity? > > munged data, tripple averaged, smoothed, points excluded, 99.9% of > temperature data points missing from the rest of earths surface, no > error analysis. **Let me be more precise, as I expect much more from you. Please issue a page by page critique of IPCC AR5. Provide supporting cites for your critique. Unsupported criticisms are unhelpful and smack of very lazy science. > >> **OK, then, how many climatologists dispute that anthropogenic CO2 is >> causing the present warming? > > I sent out email, waiting till they get back with me. **Only one? More? How many emails? To whom? > >> >> >>>> >>> >>> learn how to use google search, dude... >>> >>> Scientists questioning the accuracy of IPCC climate projections >> >> **CLIMATOLOGISTS, idiot. How many CLIMATOLOGISTS? >> >> Sheesh! Learn to read. And learn to read my questions, CAREFULLY! > > no need. You can do it yourself, use Google search, or duckduckgo **Oh, there is a great need. Again: Read my questions, CAREFULLY. -- Trevor Wilson www.rageaudio.com.au
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