Re: Global warming is a big fat lie and the science behind it is fake: John Coleman

From	Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au>
Newsgroups	sci.physics
Subject	Re: Global warming is a big fat lie and the science behind it is fake: John Coleman
Date	2018-05-14 08:32 +1000
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On 14/05/2018 7:48 AM, Wally W. wrote:
> On Mon, 14 May 2018 05:47:34 +1000, Trevor Wilson wrote:
> 
>> On 14/05/2018 5:31 AM, Wally W. wrote:
>>> On Mon, 14 May 2018 05:13:39 +1000, Trevor Wilson wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 14/05/2018 4:34 AM, Wally W. wrote:
>>>>> On Mon, 14 May 2018 04:28:51 +1000, Trevor Wilson wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 14/05/2018 3:23 AM, Sergio wrote:
>>>>>>> By Trevor's own admission, Water vapor is 4 times the greenhouse gas
>>>>>>> than CO2.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> **And again: You are massively over-simplifying the issue,
>>>>>
>>>>> And focusing on CO2 is not?
>>>>
>>>> **Well, given that it is CO2 that has caused the present warming trend,
>>>
>>> It is not a "given," it is a religious belief.
>>
>> **Nope. Just plain ole' science. Something you should familiarise
>> yourself with.
> 
> Do you understand the difference between "contributed to" and
> "caused?"

**Indeed. I used the term "caused" for simplicity. I am, after all, 
trying to discuss these things with some spectacularly ignorant people.

> 
> Then there are the questions of how much that contribution has been
> and how important it is.
> 
> <https://nofrakkingconsensus.com/2015/04/07/asking-the-wrong-question/>
> At the 21:30 mark, Dyson explains:
> 
> "Man-made climate change certainly is real. There’s no doubt it’s
> real. The question is: how much and whether it’s good or bad? Those
> are quite separate questions. I would say it’s, on the whole, good.
> Also, it’s not as large an effect as most people imagine."
> 
> Note his use of the word, "imagine."

**Is Mark Dyson a climatologist?

> 
> http://www.globalwarming.org/2012/02/07/the-great-delusion/#more-12926
> "In centuries hence the global warming boogey man will be seen for
> exactly what it is -- The Great Delusion.  Future generations will
> wonder how so many people could have believed something so suicidally
> ridiculous."

**Again: Is the author a climatologist?

> 
> 
>>>> it makes perfect sense to deal with CO2.
>>>
>>> It is low on sane people's list of things to do:
>>> <http://www.globalwarminghoax.com/news.php?extend.130>
>>> Global Warming Ranks Dead Last As An American Priority
>>>
>>> That was in 2010. The current political "climate" is even less
>>> inclined to your cause.
>>
>> **Irrelevant to the science. Global warming is occurring, despite what
>> you believe. Examine the science.
> 
> Science does not make value judgements about what "makes sense" to
> have as a priority. The political climate does.

**Indeed. And it is largely politicians who do not accept the science.


-- 
Trevor Wilson
www.rageaudio.com.au

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Global warming is a big fat lie and the science behind it is fake: John Coleman Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-05-11 18:37 -0500
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                Re: Global warming is a big fat lie and the science behind it is fake: John Coleman Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> - 2018-05-13 17:54 -0400
                Re: Global warming is a big fat lie and the science behind it is fake: John Coleman Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2018-05-14 08:00 +1000
                Re: Global warming is a big fat lie and the science behind it is fake: John Coleman benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-14 12:03 -0400
                Re: Global warming is a big fat lie and the science behind it is fake: John Coleman benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-14 12:00 -0400
                Re: Global warming is a big fat lie and the science behind it is fake: John Coleman Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2018-05-15 09:11 +1000
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                Re: Politians will take as much money from you as they possibly can. Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2018-05-16 09:45 +1000
                Re: Politians will take as much money from you as they possibly can. James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2018-05-15 19:36 -0700
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                Re: Global warming is a big fat lie and the science behind it is fake: John Coleman Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2018-05-16 07:45 +1000
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