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Re: Global warming is a big fat lie and the science behind it is fake: John Coleman

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On 14/05/2018 10:58 AM, Sergio wrote:
> On 5/13/2018 7:04 PM, Trevor Wilson wrote:
>> On 14/05/2018 9:26 AM, Sergio wrote:
>>> On 5/13/2018 5:29 PM, Trevor Wilson wrote:
>>>> On 14/05/2018 7:39 AM, Sergio wrote:
>>>>> On 5/13/2018 2:50 PM, Trevor Wilson wrote:
>>>>>> On 14/05/2018 5:27 AM, Wally W. wrote:
>>>>>>> On Mon, 14 May 2018 05:10:15 +1000, Trevor Wilson wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 14/05/2018 4:56 AM, Wally W. wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> BTW: What "problem?"
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> **Are you serious? Since the industrial revolution, humans have
>>>>>>>>>> contributed more than 30% more CO2 into the atmosphere of this
>>>>>>>>>> planet.
>>>>>>>>>> That extra CO2 has caused the planet to warm. The warming is
>>>>>>>>>> causing and
>>>>>>>>>> will cause severe problems for our civilisation.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> So you say.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> **Nope. _I_ don't say so at all. Every climatologist
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Many disagree:
>>>>>>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_scientists_who_disagree_with_the_scientific_consensus_on_global_warming>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> **You appear to think that what geographers, geologists, botanists and
>>>>>> other scientists, who work in unrelated fields to CLIMATOLOGY
>>>>>> matter in
>>>>>> this debate. I have news for you: When I stated CLIMATOLOGISTS,
>>>>>> that is
>>>>>> precisely what I meant. ALL the  agree that humans have
>>>>>> caused the observed warming.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> no,   not "all" climatologists,   you are making stuff up.
>>>>
>>>> **OK, then, how many climatologists dispute that anthropogenic CO2 is
>>>> causing the present warming?
>>
>>
>> **OK, then, how many climatologists dispute that anthropogenic CO2 is
>> causing the present warming?

**OK, then, how many climatologists dispute that anthropogenic CO2 is 
causing the present warming?


>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>       "observed" by satellite ?
>>>>>
>>>>> Show me an error analysis,
>>>>>       what bands of IR are used?
>>>>>           how wide are the filters?
>>>>>       is the actual surface temp measured ?
>>>>>           what emissivity is assumed?
>>>>>       is the air temp within 1000' of the ground measured ?
>>>>>       how much does water vapor affect the accuracy?
>>>>>       what is the accuracy of the sensor platform ?
>>>>>           sunlit vs dark ?
>>>>>       how are clouds screened out of measurements ?
>>>>>       how many types of sensor systems are used ?
>>>>>
>>>>> and so on.......
>>>>
>>>> **OK, time for you to do some learning, Mr 0.3%. Here is my reference:
>>>>
>>>> http://www.ipcc.ch/report/ar5/
>>>>
>>>> If you REALLY want answers to your questions (and I do not, for one
>>>> millisecond believe that you interested in knowledge in the slightest),
>>>> then read the IPCC reports.
>>>
>>> sure, lets go look at the data
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> https://data.giss.nasa.gov/gistemp/tabledata_v3/GLB.Ts.txt
>>> (monthly averages of varances from what? and from what stations?)
>>>
>>> Sources:  *GHCN-v3* 1880-03/2018 (meteorological stations only)
>>>             using *elimination of outliers* and *homogeneity adjustment*
>>>             Notes: 1950 DJF = Dec 1949 - Feb 1950 ;  ***** = missing
>>>
>>> => so the data has been manulipulated
>>>      *elimination of outliers*
>>>      *homogeneity adjustment*   (the more grievous one)
>>>
>>>
>>> look at GHCN-v1 vs. GHCN-v3
>>>
>>> https://wattsupwiththat.com/2012/06/22/comparing-ghcn-v1-and-v3/
>>>
>>>
>>> "World Meteorological Organization (WMO) to collect all available
>>> temperature data from member countries. before 1980's these were in the
>>> form of logbooks or other non-digital records."
>>>
>>> =>which means they are NOT accurate to within 1 degree C, and the time
>>> of measurment is questionable, and all earth locations were not used,
>>> and no ocean temps were used.
>>>
>>
>>
>> **OK, so what did you find in the IPCC documents that support your
>> insanity?
>>
> 
> whish!!!!!!!    right over your head

**OK, so what did you find in the IPCC documents that support your insanity?


> 
> here you go, read it for the first time
> 
> 
> Sources:  *GHCN-v3* 1880-03/2018 (meteorological stations only)
>>>             using *elimination of outliers* and *homogeneity adjustment*
>>>             Notes: 1950 DJF = Dec 1949 - Feb 1950 ;  ***** = missing
>>>
>>> => so the data has been manulipulated
>>>      *elimination of outliers*
>>>      *homogeneity adjustment*   (the more grievous one)
>>>
>>>
>>> look at GHCN-v1 vs. GHCN-v3
>>>
>>> https://wattsupwiththat.com/2012/06/22/comparing-ghcn-v1-and-v3/
>>>
>>>
>>> "World Meteorological Organization (WMO) to collect all available
>>> temperature data from member countries. before 1980's these were in the
>>> form of logbooks or other non-digital records."
>>>
>>> =>which means they are NOT accurate to within 1 degree C, and the time
>>> of measurment is questionable, and all earth locations were not used,
>>> and no ocean temps were used.
> 
> 
> Sources:  *GHCN-v3* 1880-03/2018 (meteorological stations only)
>>>             using *elimination of outliers* and *homogeneity adjustment*
>>>             Notes: 1950 DJF = Dec 1949 - Feb 1950 ;  ***** = missing
>>>
>>> => so the data has been manulipulated
>>>      *elimination of outliers*
>>>      *homogeneity adjustment*   (the more grievous one)
>>>
>>>
>>> look at GHCN-v1 vs. GHCN-v3
>>>
>>> https://wattsupwiththat.com/2012/06/22/comparing-ghcn-v1-and-v3/
>>>
>>>
>>> "World Meteorological Organization (WMO) to collect all available
>>> temperature data from member countries. before 1980's these were in the
>>> form of logbooks or other non-digital records."
>>>
>>> =>which means they are NOT accurate to within 1 degree C, and the time
>>> of measurment is questionable, and all earth locations were not used,
>>> and no ocean temps were used.


**OK, so what did you find in the IPCC documents that support your insanity?

**OK, then, how many climatologists dispute that anthropogenic CO2 is 
causing the present warming?

-- 
Trevor Wilson
www.rageaudio.com.au

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