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| From | 7 <7@enemygadgets.com> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | sci.physics |
| Subject | Re: Massive gamma ray burst detected after black hole merger |
| Date | 2016-02-28 10:09 +0000 |
| Organization | enemygadgets.com |
| Message-ID | <djfva3FoeflU2@mid.individual.net> (permalink) |
| References | <djd8rfF3g9qU1@mid.individual.net> <Y9edncAaRrVE2U_LnZ2dnUU7-b3NnZ2d@giganews.com> |
Yousuf Khan wrote: > On 27/02/2016 4:33 AM, 7 wrote: >> Massive gamma ray burst detected after black hole merger >> -------------------------------------------------------- >> >> http://www.gizmag.com/gravitational-waves-black-hole/42028/ >> >> >> The gravitational wave detected by LIGO was follwed >> 0.4 seconds later by a massive gamma ray burst. >> >> To me this is no surprise at all. >> >> As I was saying before, when black holes try to >> merge, the net gravity in the middle between the two >> black holes fall off to zero allowing material >> trapped in it to escape at a fantastic rate >> (estimated at 1 sun per second for this particular event) >> before the black holes merge and close this window. > > Yes, nobody disputes that the black hole merger releases a vast amount > of energy, it's 3 solar masses worth of energy in fact. However, what's > different here is what form the energy takes. In this case, all of that > energy comes out as gravitational energy, not electromagnetic energy. The contradiction is that then there is no gamma ray burst. >> Proof that material easily escapes black holes >> during a merger is provided by double signal of >> gravitational waves and massive gamma ray bursts >> happening at the same time. >> >> If these double events occur most of the time >> then it is absolute proof that black hole >> mergers release vast amount of matter in the >> form of gamma rays. This gamma ray would >> probably condense to form matter which >> linger near the black hole. > > How do you expect the gamma rays turn into matter? Matter doesn't just > happen, when you dump a bunch of energy into an area. Eeek! Run away! :) What do you think happens in a particle accelerator all day? >> The most important detail about that story is that >> our universe could also have been born in the same >> way. As stated before, our universe was born about >> 14 billion years ago with a merger/collision >> of two gigantic black holes. The material that >> leaked out during that collision makes this universe. > > Chances are likely that we're are already inside a black hole, no need > for material to leak out, the special conditions inside a black hole can > lead to matter creation. It's not just gamma rays. It's energy in all of > its forms that create matter. > > Yousuf Khan
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Massive gamma ray burst detected after black hole merger 7 <7@enemygadgets.com> - 2016-02-27 09:33 +0000
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Re: Massive gamma ray burst detected after black hole merger 7 <7@enemygadgets.com> - 2016-02-27 12:30 +0000
Re: Massive gamma ray burst detected after black hole merger john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-02-27 04:47 -0800
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Re: Massive gamma ray burst detected after black hole merger Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2016-02-27 08:04 -0600
Re: Massive gamma ray burst detected after black hole merger HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-02-27 05:02 -0800
Re: Massive gamma ray burst detected after black hole merger 7 <7@enemygadgets.com> - 2016-02-27 13:35 +0000
Re: Massive gamma ray burst detected after black hole merger HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-02-27 06:01 -0800
Re: Massive gamma ray burst detected after black hole merger 7 <7@enemygadgets.com> - 2016-02-27 16:37 +0000
Re: Massive gamma ray burst detected after black hole merger HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-02-27 09:17 -0800
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Re: Massive gamma ray burst detected after black hole merger benj <none@gmail.com> - 2016-02-27 15:16 -0500
Re: Massive gamma ray burst detected after black hole merger Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2016-02-27 18:56 -0600
Re: Massive gamma ray burst detected after black hole merger Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-02-29 09:00 -0600
Re: Massive gamma ray burst detected after black hole merger HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-02-29 07:08 -0800
Re: Massive gamma ray burst detected after black hole merger Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2016-02-27 17:15 +0100
Re: Massive gamma ray burst detected after black hole merger 7 <7@enemygadgets.com> - 2016-02-27 16:26 +0000
Re: Massive gamma ray burst detected after black hole merger Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2016-02-27 17:51 +0100
Re: Massive gamma ray burst detected after black hole merger 7 <7@enemygadgets.com> - 2016-02-27 18:13 +0000
Re: Massive gamma ray burst detected after black hole merger Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2016-02-27 17:13 +0100
Re: Massive gamma ray burst detected after black hole merger 7 <7@enemygadgets.com> - 2016-02-27 16:22 +0000
Re: Massive gamma ray burst detected after black hole merger Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2016-02-27 17:53 +0100
Re: Massive gamma ray burst detected after black hole merger john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-02-27 09:07 -0800
Re: Massive gamma ray burst detected after black hole merger HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-02-27 09:26 -0800
Re: Massive gamma ray burst detected after black hole merger Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2016-02-27 18:47 +0100
Re: Massive gamma ray burst detected after black hole merger Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-02-27 11:56 -0600
Re: Massive gamma ray burst detected after black hole merger 7 <7@enemygadgets.com> - 2016-02-27 18:01 +0000
Re: Massive gamma ray burst detected after black hole merger Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2016-02-27 19:06 +0100
Re: Massive gamma ray burst detected after black hole merger 7 <7@enemygadgets.com> - 2016-02-27 18:16 +0000
Re: Massive gamma ray burst detected after black hole merger Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2016-02-27 19:39 +0100
Re: Massive gamma ray burst detected after black hole merger Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2016-02-27 17:09 +0100
Re: Massive gamma ray burst detected after black hole merger 7 <7@enemygadgets.com> - 2016-02-27 16:18 +0000
Re: Massive gamma ray burst detected after black hole merger Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2016-02-27 18:22 +0100
Re: Massive gamma ray burst detected after black hole merger "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2016-02-27 10:55 -0800
Re: Massive gamma ray burst detected after black hole merger Yousuf Khan <bbbl67@spammenot.yahoo.com> - 2016-02-27 19:52 -0500
Re: Massive gamma ray burst detected after black hole merger 7 <7@enemygadgets.com> - 2016-02-28 10:09 +0000
Re: Massive gamma ray burst detected after black hole merger Yousuf Khan <bbbl67@spammenot.yahoo.com> - 2016-02-29 10:48 -0500
Re: Massive gamma ray burst detected after black hole merger Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-02-28 11:59 +1100
Re: Massive gamma ray burst detected after black hole merger 7 <7@enemygadgets.com> - 2016-02-28 10:05 +0000
Re: Massive gamma ray burst detected after black hole merger Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2016-02-28 14:39 +0100
Re: Massive gamma ray burst detected after black hole merger "reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2016-02-29 09:59 -0800
Re: Massive gamma ray burst detected after black hole merger Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2016-02-29 12:01 -0600
Re: Massive gamma ray burst detected after black hole merger Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2016-02-29 20:01 -0600
Re: Massive gamma ray burst detected after black hole merger "reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2016-03-01 11:34 -0800
Re: Massive gamma ray burst detected after black hole merger HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-03-01 14:10 -0800
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