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Re: Massive gamma ray burst detected after black hole merger

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HVAC wrote:


> That is a very good question - but at least it is possible
> to say the universe may be trillions of years old filled with
> immense black holes and then whatever we try to do to analyse it,
> it is beyond our tools to go figure out where the original black
> holes came from, or how vast the entire universe is.
> 
> 14 billion light years is only long enough to figure out the
> immediate local neighbourhood due to creation. The bigger
> picture is exceptionally hard to find out.
> 
> May be extremely long / very long wave radio could see
> further than the 14 billion light year area
> outside our universe, but somehow I doubt it.
> If we condense out of a gamma ray burst, there would
> be immense amount of gas and rubble to block out all radiation
> at the periphery of this universe in all directions.
> --------------
> 
> First of all, I only ask good questions. There is no need to point this
> out.
> 
> Secondly, since your idea had zero evidence, why not just stuck with the
> model we have?

There is zero evidence for the present model of
1. a quantum fluctuation creating a big bang and then invoking 
2. inflation to smooth out the CMB
3. no theories for slowing and then accelerating universe
4. no theories for dark matter either
5. and hot side/cold side of CMB
6. The axis in the CMB
etc.

Invoking magical theory like quantum fluctuation
and fitting the evidence numbers don't create evidence.
Prediction and testing does.
There are way too many problems out there.
Instead this one scenario captures all problems.
And easy to make predictions such as expansion
rate of the universe from this model.

It is possible to estimate the expansion rate
of the universe using simple Newtonian mechanics
applied to this 'black hole gamma ray burst' creation theory
by working out the acceleration, mass of the universe,
the time since creation, then the deceleration. and the return journey back 
to parent black hole. When I plug in the numbers it comes out some 1 order
of magnitude out - not bad for first approximation
considering how many zeros need to go into all the numbers.

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  Massive gamma ray burst detected after black hole merger HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-02-27 03:40 -0800
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