Re: Massive gamma ray burst detected after black hole merger

From	7 <7@enemygadgets.com>
Newsgroups	sci.physics
Subject	Re: Massive gamma ray burst detected after black hole merger
Date	2016-02-27 16:22 +0000
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Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote:

> 7 wrote:
> 
>> […] at least it is possible to say the universe may be trillions of years
>> old
> 
> It is also possible to say that the Moon may consist of green cheese; that
> does not make it any less nonsensical.
> 
> *Our* universe cannot be “trillions of years old”.  There was no(t the
> same) time before the Planck epoch, which we know, to great precision now,
> must have happened about 13.799 billion years ago.

It seems you can't read and are picking items out of context like some 
giant universal trolling pricccck.

Read the original post and pick out the point where the conversation
goes from our universe to a much bigger universe:

> 7
> The most important detail about that story is that
> our universe could also have been born in the same
> way. As stated before, our universe was born about
> 14 billion years ago with a merger/collision
> of two gigantic black holes. The material that
> leaked out during that collision makes this universe.
> 
> It didn't come into existence spontaneously
> by any quantum fluctuation at the time big bang started.
> --------------
> 
> All this does is move the bar back. Where did these two black holes come
> from?  What started THEIR universe?

That is a very good question - but at least it is possible
to say the universe may be trillions of years old filled with
immense black holes and then whatever we try to do to analyse it,
it is beyond our tools to go figure out where the original black
holes came from, or how vast the entire universe is.

14 billion light years is only long enough to figure out the
immediate local neighbourhood due to creation. The bigger
picture is exceptionally hard to find out.

May be extremely long / very long wave radio could see
further than the 14 billion light year area
outside our universe, but somehow I doubt it.
If we condense out of a gamma ray burst, there would
be immense amount of gas and rubble to block out all radiation
at the periphery of this universe in all directions.

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Massive gamma ray burst detected after black hole merger 7 <7@enemygadgets.com> - 2016-02-27 09:33 +0000
  Massive gamma ray burst detected after black hole merger HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-02-27 03:40 -0800
    Re: Massive gamma ray burst detected after black hole merger 7 <7@enemygadgets.com> - 2016-02-27 12:30 +0000
      Re: Massive gamma ray burst detected after black hole merger john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-02-27 04:47 -0800
        Re: Massive gamma ray burst detected after black hole merger HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-02-27 05:06 -0800
        Re: Massive gamma ray burst detected after black hole merger Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2016-02-27 08:04 -0600
      Re: Massive gamma ray burst detected after black hole merger HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-02-27 05:02 -0800
        Re: Massive gamma ray burst detected after black hole merger 7 <7@enemygadgets.com> - 2016-02-27 13:35 +0000
          Re: Massive gamma ray burst detected after black hole merger HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-02-27 06:01 -0800
            Re: Massive gamma ray burst detected after black hole merger 7 <7@enemygadgets.com> - 2016-02-27 16:37 +0000
              Re: Massive gamma ray burst detected after black hole merger HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-02-27 09:17 -0800
              Re: Massive gamma ray burst detected after black hole merger HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-02-27 09:30 -0800
            Re: Massive gamma ray burst detected after black hole merger benj <none@gmail.com> - 2016-02-27 15:16 -0500
              Re: Massive gamma ray burst detected after black hole merger Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2016-02-27 18:56 -0600
              Re: Massive gamma ray burst detected after black hole merger Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-02-29 09:00 -0600
                Re: Massive gamma ray burst detected after black hole merger HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-02-29 07:08 -0800
          Re: Massive gamma ray burst detected after black hole merger Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2016-02-27 17:15 +0100
            Re: Massive gamma ray burst detected after black hole merger 7 <7@enemygadgets.com> - 2016-02-27 16:26 +0000
              Re: Massive gamma ray burst detected after black hole merger Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2016-02-27 17:51 +0100
                Re: Massive gamma ray burst detected after black hole merger 7 <7@enemygadgets.com> - 2016-02-27 18:13 +0000
      Re: Massive gamma ray burst detected after black hole merger Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2016-02-27 17:13 +0100
        Re: Massive gamma ray burst detected after black hole merger 7 <7@enemygadgets.com> - 2016-02-27 16:22 +0000
          Re: Massive gamma ray burst detected after black hole merger Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2016-02-27 17:53 +0100
            Re: Massive gamma ray burst detected after black hole merger john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-02-27 09:07 -0800
              Re: Massive gamma ray burst detected after black hole merger HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-02-27 09:26 -0800
              Re: Massive gamma ray burst detected after black hole merger Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2016-02-27 18:47 +0100
              Re: Massive gamma ray burst detected after black hole merger Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-02-27 11:56 -0600
            Re: Massive gamma ray burst detected after black hole merger 7 <7@enemygadgets.com> - 2016-02-27 18:01 +0000
              Re: Massive gamma ray burst detected after black hole merger Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2016-02-27 19:06 +0100
                Re: Massive gamma ray burst detected after black hole merger 7 <7@enemygadgets.com> - 2016-02-27 18:16 +0000
                Re: Massive gamma ray burst detected after black hole merger Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2016-02-27 19:39 +0100
  Re: Massive gamma ray burst detected after black hole merger Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2016-02-27 17:09 +0100
    Re: Massive gamma ray burst detected after black hole merger 7 <7@enemygadgets.com> - 2016-02-27 16:18 +0000
      Re: Massive gamma ray burst detected after black hole merger Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2016-02-27 18:22 +0100
        Re: Massive gamma ray burst detected after black hole merger "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2016-02-27 10:55 -0800
  Re: Massive gamma ray burst detected after black hole merger Yousuf Khan <bbbl67@spammenot.yahoo.com> - 2016-02-27 19:52 -0500
    Re: Massive gamma ray burst detected after black hole merger 7 <7@enemygadgets.com> - 2016-02-28 10:09 +0000
      Re: Massive gamma ray burst detected after black hole merger Yousuf Khan <bbbl67@spammenot.yahoo.com> - 2016-02-29 10:48 -0500
  Re: Massive gamma ray burst detected after black hole merger Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-02-28 11:59 +1100
    Re: Massive gamma ray burst detected after black hole merger 7 <7@enemygadgets.com> - 2016-02-28 10:05 +0000
      Re: Massive gamma ray burst detected after black hole merger Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2016-02-28 14:39 +0100
  Re: Massive gamma ray burst detected after black hole merger "reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2016-02-29 09:59 -0800
    Re: Massive gamma ray burst detected after black hole merger Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2016-02-29 12:01 -0600
    Re: Massive gamma ray burst detected after black hole merger Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2016-02-29 20:01 -0600
  Re: Massive gamma ray burst detected after black hole merger "reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2016-03-01 11:34 -0800
    Re: Massive gamma ray burst detected after black hole merger HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-03-01 14:10 -0800

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