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Re: The Aether, Michelson and Einstein

From Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address>
Newsgroups sci.physics
Subject Re: The Aether, Michelson and Einstein
Date 2016-01-10 20:27 +1100
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On 10/01/2016 1:38 AM, Peter Riedt wrote:
> The Aether, Michelson and Einstein
>
> The aether has been described by various scientists in different forms and with differing attributes (Poincaré, Maxwell, Boyle, Huygens, Young, Fresnel, Cauchy, Fizeau, Larmor, Faraday, Fitzgerald, Kelvin, Hertz, Lorentz, Tesla, Lord Raleigh, Dirac, Stokes and others). The aether was disowned only by Michelson after his failure to experimentally prove it because he applied an incorrect logic in his interferometer experiment and did not want to admit his error.
>
> Michelson incorrectly assumed the light path on the perpendicular arm (AB) of the interferometer traversed an isosceles triangle but the light path is a right angle triangle. In the correct logic of the experiment a light ray leaves the beam splitter A at a right angle, impacts at the mirror B and leaves it at a small acute angle towards C on the parallel arm. In the meantime the split ray moves from A to D and back to C where it meets the ray coming from B without interference because distance ABC equals distance ADC.	
> The Proof:
> 2D(1+vv/cc)-(D+sqrt(D^2+(((2D(1+vv/cc))/c)*v)^2)) = 0
>
> B
> ^\
> ^ \             The perpendicular and parallel arm
> ^  \           light paths of the MMX interferometer
> ^   \
> ^    \
> ^     \
> ^      \
> ^       \
> ^        \
> ^         \
> A>---------\-------------------------------->D
>              C<------------------------------<D
>
> ADC  = 2D(1+vv/cc) = 22.00000022m (according to Michelson)	
> ABC  = D+sqrt(D^2+(((2D(1+vv/cc))/c)*v)^2)
> 	= 11m + 11.00000022m = 22.00000022m (according to Riedt)              AB   = D = 11m
> AC   = (2D(1+vv/cc)) = 0.0000000733333340666667sec
> AC   = ((2D(1+vv/cc))/c)*v = 0.002200000022m
> BC   = sqrt(D^2+(((2D(1+vv/cc))/c)*v)^2) = 11.00000022m
>
> D=11m, c=300000000m/sec, c=30000m/sec
>
> Albert Einstein is thought to have himself also distanced from the aether. However in an address on 5 May 1920 at the University of Leiden he lectured on the topic 'Ether and the Theory of Relativity'. The lecture was published by Methuen & Co. Ltd, London, in 1922. At the end of the lecture he said:
>
> "Recapitulating, we may say that according to the general theory of relativity space is endowed with physical qualities; in this sense, therefore, there exists an ether. According to the general theory of relativity space without ether is unthinkable; for in such space there not only would be no propagation of light, but also no possibility of existence for standards of space and time".
>
> Peter Riedt
>
A rose by any other name is still a rose.

And vice versa.

Sylvia.

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The Aether, Michelson and Einstein Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-01-09 06:38 -0800
  Re: The Aether, Michelson and Einstein "reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2016-01-09 09:56 -0800
  Re: The Aether, Michelson and Einstein omnilobe@gmail.com - 2016-01-09 11:55 -0800
  Re: The Aether, Michelson and Einstein Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-01-09 16:59 -0800
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    Re: The Aether, Michelson and Einstein Yousuf Khan <bbbl67@spammenot.yahoo.com> - 2016-01-11 00:24 -0500
      Re: The Aether, Michelson and Einstein Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-01-10 23:13 -0800
        Re: The Aether, Michelson and Einstein benj <none@gmail.com> - 2016-01-11 02:18 -0500
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        Re: The Aether, Michelson and Einstein Yousuf Khan <bbbl67@spammenot.yahoo.com> - 2016-01-12 02:14 -0500
      Re: The Aether, Michelson and Einstein James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-01-11 12:52 -0800
        Re: The Aether, Michelson and Einstein Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-01-11 15:35 -0600
          Re: The Aether, Michelson and Einstein James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-01-11 15:56 -0800
            Re: The Aether, Michelson and Einstein Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-01-11 19:28 -0600
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              Re: The Aether, Michelson and Einstein James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-01-11 18:23 -0800
                Re: The Aether, Michelson and Einstein Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-01-11 20:40 -0600
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                Re: The Aether, Michelson and Einstein James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-01-11 19:24 -0800
                Re: The Aether, Michelson and Einstein Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-01-12 09:08 -0600
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  Re: The Aether, Michelson and Einstein Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-01-10 20:27 +1100
    Re: The Aether, Michelson and Einstein Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-01-10 16:21 -0800
      Re: The Aether, Michelson and Einstein Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-01-11 11:35 +1100
        Re: The Aether, Michelson and Einstein Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-01-10 21:23 -0800
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                Re: The Aether, Michelson and Einstein Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-01-13 07:47 -0600
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                Re: The Aether, Michelson and Einstein Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-01-20 07:27 -0600
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                Re: The Aether, Michelson and Einstein benj <none@gmail.com> - 2016-01-11 20:42 -0500
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                Re: The Aether, Michelson and Einstein benj <none@gmail.com> - 2016-01-11 22:18 -0500
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                Re: The Aether, Michelson and Einstein Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-01-14 16:14 -0800
                Re: The Aether, Michelson and Einstein Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-01-15 09:03 -0600
                Re: The Aether, Michelson and Einstein Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-01-15 15:49 -0800
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                Re: The Aether, Michelson and Einstein Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2016-01-16 18:27 -0600
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                Re: The Aether, Michelson and Einstein Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-01-17 15:16 -0600
                Re: The Aether, Michelson and Einstein HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-01-17 13:25 -0800
                Re: The Aether, Michelson and Einstein Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-01-17 18:21 -0800
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                Re: The Aether, Michelson and Einstein Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-01-18 12:36 -0800
                Re: The Aether, Michelson and Einstein HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-01-18 16:34 -0800
                Re: The Aether, Michelson and Einstein Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-01-18 17:44 -0800
                Re: The Aether, Michelson and Einstein HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-01-19 08:03 -0800
                Re: The Aether, Michelson and Einstein Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-01-19 09:28 -0600
                Re: The Aether, Michelson and Einstein Yousuf Khan <bbbl67@spammenot.yahoo.com> - 2016-01-17 02:39 -0500
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