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HVAC wrote:

>> If we see a group in Mosul celebrating the attacks in Paris and shooting
>> their AK47 into the air, why isn't that a legitimate target?
> 
> Freedom of speech, as long as the shot does not hit an airplane or a
                     ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> person.
  ^^^^^^^
> That is one of the values we hold dear and want to protect, right?  And
> even then it would have to be re-evaluated what that airplane was doing
> there in the first place; had it perhaps violated the airspace of a
> sovereign country without a clear UN mandate (I do not mean the so-called
> Islamic State here ----------
> 
> They aren't American citizens therefore no free speech. 

Freedom of speech is a universal *human* right, stupid; not only a U.S. 
American right.

> Especially when they are armed enemy combatants embedding themselves with 
> civilians

You are confusing the issue.  We were talking about people expressing their 
opinion and shooting in the air; nobody was injured or killed in that 
scenario.


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