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Improved Relativity Theory (IRT)

Started bykenseto <setoken@att.net>
First post2018-09-24 09:43 -0700
Last post2018-09-28 14:47 -0700
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  Improved Relativity Theory (IRT) kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-09-24 09:43 -0700
    Re: Improved Relativity Theory (IRT) Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-24 17:13 +0000
      Re: Improved Relativity Theory (IRT) kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-09-24 12:38 -0700
        Re: Improved Relativity Theory (IRT) Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-25 01:20 +0000
          Re: Improved Relativity Theory (IRT) Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-25 01:38 +0000
            Re: Improved Relativity Theory (IRT) kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-09-25 06:47 -0700
              Re: Improved Relativity Theory (IRT) Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-25 14:13 +0000
                Re: Improved Relativity Theory (IRT) kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-09-25 17:54 -0700
                  Re: Improved Relativity Theory (IRT) Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-26 02:39 +0000
          Re: Improved Relativity Theory (IRT) kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-09-25 06:32 -0700
            Re: Improved Relativity Theory (IRT) Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-25 14:13 +0000
              Re: Improved Relativity Theory (IRT) kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-09-25 17:57 -0700
                Re: Improved Relativity Theory (IRT) Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-26 02:39 +0000
    Re: Improved Relativity Theory (IRT) moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-09-24 18:17 +0000
      Re: Improved Relativity Theory (IRT) Hilton Packett <wod@wcothr.ce> - 2018-09-24 20:09 +0000
        Re: Improved Relativity Theory (IRT) Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-09-25 13:29 -0700
          Re: Improved Relativity Theory (IRT) Hilton Packett <wod@wcothr.ce> - 2018-09-25 22:29 +0000
            Re: Improved Relativity Theory (IRT) herbertglazier0@gmail.com - 2018-09-25 16:55 -0700
          Re: Improved Relativity Theory (IRT) kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-09-25 17:52 -0700
            Re: Improved Relativity Theory (IRT) rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2018-09-25 20:11 -0700
              Re: Improved Relativity Theory (IRT) moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-09-26 04:11 +0000
                Re: Improved Relativity Theory (IRT) Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-09-26 09:54 -0700
                  Re: Improved Relativity Theory (IRT) kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-09-26 14:00 -0700
                    Re: Improved Relativity Theory (IRT) moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-09-26 21:29 +0000
                    Re: Improved Relativity Theory (IRT) Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-27 01:10 +0000
                      Re: Improved Relativity Theory (IRT) kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-09-27 06:47 -0700
                        Re: Improved Relativity Theory (IRT) Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-27 18:37 +0000
                          Re: Improved Relativity Theory (IRT) kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-09-28 13:18 -0700
                            Re: Improved Relativity Theory (IRT) Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-28 22:05 +0000
                              Re: Improved Relativity Theory (IRT) kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-09-29 08:11 -0700
                                Re: Improved Relativity Theory (IRT) Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-29 15:25 +0000
                                  Re: Improved Relativity Theory (IRT) kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-09-29 12:40 -0700
                                    Re: Improved Relativity Theory (IRT) moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-09-29 20:03 +0000
                                    Re: Improved Relativity Theory (IRT) Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-29 22:03 +0000
                                      Re: Improved Relativity Theory (IRT) kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-09-30 19:07 -0700
                                        Re: Improved Relativity Theory (IRT) Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-10-01 14:52 +0000
                                          Re: Improved Relativity Theory (IRT) kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-10-01 11:46 -0700
                                            Re: Improved Relativity Theory (IRT) Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-10-01 21:30 +0000
                                              Re: Improved Relativity Theory (IRT) kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-10-02 07:30 -0700
                                                Re: Improved Relativity Theory (IRT) Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-10-02 17:08 +0000
                                Re: Improved Relativity Theory (IRT) rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2018-09-29 08:37 -0700
                                  Re: Improved Relativity Theory (IRT) "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2018-09-29 09:20 -0700
                                  Re: Improved Relativity Theory (IRT) kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-09-29 12:43 -0700
                                    Re: Improved Relativity Theory (IRT) rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2018-09-29 15:00 -0700
                                Re: Improved Relativity Theory (IRT) Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-10-01 10:31 -0700
                                  Re: Improved Relativity Theory (IRT) kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-10-01 11:51 -0700
                                    Re: Improved Relativity Theory (IRT) Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-10-01 21:30 +0000
                                      Re: Improved Relativity Theory (IRT) kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-10-02 07:21 -0700
                                        Re: Improved Relativity Theory (IRT) Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-10-02 17:08 +0000
                                        Re: Improved Relativity Theory (IRT) Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-10-02 13:27 -0700
                                          Re: Improved Relativity Theory (IRT) kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-10-03 06:03 -0700
                                            Re: Improved Relativity Theory (IRT) moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-10-03 13:38 +0000
                                              Re: Improved Relativity Theory (IRT) mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-10-03 09:10 -0700
                                            Re: Improved Relativity Theory (IRT) rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2018-10-03 07:41 -0700
                                    Re: Improved Relativity Theory (IRT) Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-10-02 13:24 -0700
                                      Re: Improved Relativity Theory (IRT) kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-10-03 05:59 -0700
                                        Re: Improved Relativity Theory (IRT) rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2018-10-03 07:43 -0700
                        Re: Improved Relativity Theory (IRT) Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-09-28 06:20 -0700
                          Re: Improved Relativity Theory (IRT) kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-09-28 07:10 -0700
                            Re: Improved Relativity Theory (IRT) moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-09-28 16:45 +0000
                            Re: Improved Relativity Theory (IRT) rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2018-09-28 13:39 -0700
              Re: Improved Relativity Theory (IRT) kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-09-26 13:57 -0700
                Re: Improved Relativity Theory (IRT) rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2018-09-26 14:42 -0700
                  Re: Improved Relativity Theory (IRT) kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-09-27 12:46 -0700
                    Re: Improved Relativity Theory (IRT) Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-09-28 06:30 -0700
                      Re: Improved Relativity Theory (IRT) kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-09-28 06:56 -0700
                        Re: Improved Relativity Theory (IRT) "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2018-09-28 09:41 -0700
                        Re: Improved Relativity Theory (IRT) rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2018-09-28 13:44 -0700
                    Re: Improved Relativity Theory (IRT) "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2018-09-28 09:43 -0700
                      Re: Improved Relativity Theory (IRT) rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2018-09-28 13:51 -0700
                        Re: Improved Relativity Theory (IRT) "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2018-09-28 14:30 -0700
                          Re: Improved Relativity Theory (IRT) rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2018-09-28 14:41 -0700
                            Re: Improved Relativity Theory (IRT) "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2018-09-28 14:47 -0700

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#473109

Frommoroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney)
Date2018-09-26 04:11 +0000
Message-ID<pof0u8$nkc$1@pcls7.std.com>
In reply to#473106
rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> writes:

>On Tuesday, September 25, 2018 at 8:52:52 PM UTC-4, kenseto wrote:
>> On Tuesday, September 25, 2018 at 4:29:27 PM UTC-4, Edward Prochak wrote:

>> Hey idiot, I didn't nym shifted....

>It sounds as you did. You nym'ed as someone defending you. You are a 
>cheater and a liar.

>> Hilton Packett is not me.

>Assertion is not a valid argument.

Stupid Ken is right for once. "Hilton Packett" is the nymshifting troll, 
not Ken. Ken is too stupid to know how to nymshift. I don't know why the 
nymshifter is defending Ken.

>> Also IRT is not a subset of any other theory.

>Yes it is. You STOLE it from another crackpot, and put ur name on it and 
>copyrighted it, just like de cheater you are. Remember, you DID admit to 
>me this in the past, when I confronted you with an exact same copy of 
>your irt.

Stupid Ken stole IRT? And that means there's someone else out there just 
as stupid as Ken??

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#473166

FromEdward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com>
Date2018-09-26 09:54 -0700
Message-ID<5645102d-28e3-433a-ae5d-07db9f028dde@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#473109
On Wednesday, September 26, 2018 at 12:11:54 AM UTC-4, Michael Moroney wrote:
> rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> writes:
> 
> >On Tuesday, September 25, 2018 at 8:52:52 PM UTC-4, kenseto wrote:
> >> On Tuesday, September 25, 2018 at 4:29:27 PM UTC-4, Edward Prochak wrote:
> 
> >> Hey idiot, I didn't nym shifted....
> 
> >It sounds as you did. You nym'ed as someone defending you. You are a 
> >cheater and a liar.
> 
> >> Hilton Packett is not me.
> 
> >Assertion is not a valid argument.
> 
> Stupid Ken is right for once. "Hilton Packett" is the nymshifting troll, 
> not Ken. Ken is too stupid to know how to nymshift. I don't know why the 
> nymshifter is defending Ken.
> 
> >> Also IRT is not a subset of any other theory.
> 
> >Yes it is. You STOLE it from another crackpot, and put ur name on it and 
> >copyrighted it, just like de cheater you are. Remember, you DID admit to 
> >me this in the past, when I confronted you with an exact same copy of 
> >your irt.
> 
> Stupid Ken stole IRT? And that means there's someone else out there just 
> as stupid as Ken??

This is getting interesting. It explains a lot, like why Ken cannot
do even a simple calculation from "his own" formula for gravity.

Ed

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#473209

Fromkenseto <setoken@att.net>
Date2018-09-26 14:00 -0700
Message-ID<ed83edb8-f213-41cb-a480-21b980bc3235@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#473166
On Wednesday, September 26, 2018 at 12:54:49 PM UTC-4, Edward Prochak wrote:
> On Wednesday, September 26, 2018 at 12:11:54 AM UTC-4, Michael Moroney wrote:
> > rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> writes:
> > 
> > >On Tuesday, September 25, 2018 at 8:52:52 PM UTC-4, kenseto wrote:
> > >> On Tuesday, September 25, 2018 at 4:29:27 PM UTC-4, Edward Prochak wrote:
> > 
> > >> Hey idiot, I didn't nym shifted....
> > 
> > >It sounds as you did. You nym'ed as someone defending you. You are a 
> > >cheater and a liar.
> > 
> > >> Hilton Packett is not me.
> > 
> > >Assertion is not a valid argument.
> > 
> > Stupid Ken is right for once. "Hilton Packett" is the nymshifting troll, 
> > not Ken. Ken is too stupid to know how to nymshift. I don't know why the 
> > nymshifter is defending Ken.
> > 
> > >> Also IRT is not a subset of any other theory.
> > 
> > >Yes it is. You STOLE it from another crackpot, and put ur name on it and 
> > >copyrighted it, just like de cheater you are. Remember, you DID admit to 
> > >me this in the past, when I confronted you with an exact same copy of 
> > >your irt.
> > 
> > Stupid Ken stole IRT? And that means there's someone else out there just 
> > as stupid as Ken??
> 
> This is getting interesting. It explains a lot, like why Ken cannot
> do even a simple calculation from "his own" formula for gravity.
> 

No idiot,I said that I don’t want to do what you asked me to do. It is beneath me.

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#473212

Frommoroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney)
Date2018-09-26 21:29 +0000
Message-ID<pogtni$mag$1@pcls7.std.com>
In reply to#473209
kenseto <setoken@att.net> writes:

>On Wednesday, September 26, 2018 at 12:54:49 PM UTC-4, Edward Prochak wrote:
>> On Wednesday, September 26, 2018 at 12:11:54 AM UTC-4, Michael Moroney wrote:
>> > >> Also IRT is not a subset of any other theory.

>> > >Yes it is. You STOLE it from another crackpot, and put ur name on it and
>> > >copyrighted it, just like de cheater you are. Remember, you DID admit to
>> > >me this in the past, when I confronted you with an exact same copy of
>> > >your irt.

>> > Stupid Ken stole IRT? And that means there's someone else out there just
>> > as stupid as Ken??

>> This is getting interesting. It explains a lot, like why Ken cannot
>> do even a simple calculation from "his own" formula for gravity.

Yes, it does. It answers how Ken can supposedly come up with some 
equations but is unable to use them in a calculation.

>No idiot,I said that I don't want to do what you asked me to do. It is 
>beneath me.

It is "beneath" a self-proclaimed scientist to do what scientist do?
That's like saying that baking bread is "beneath" a baker!!

Yes, Ken, we know the real reason why you can't do simple calculations.
You are unable to do the simplest math! You can't even solve (-6)/(-2)!!
My kid was in 4th grade when she had that as a homework problem! She is in
10th Grade now, in the advanced program, yet you *still* can't solve it!

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#473223

FromOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date2018-09-27 01:10 +0000
Message-ID<pohamk$16la$2@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#473209
kenseto <setoken@att.net> wrote:
> On Wednesday, September 26, 2018 at 12:54:49 PM UTC-4, Edward Prochak wrote:
>> On Wednesday, September 26, 2018 at 12:11:54 AM UTC-4, Michael Moroney wrote:
>>> rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> writes:
>>> 
>>>> On Tuesday, September 25, 2018 at 8:52:52 PM UTC-4, kenseto wrote:
>>>>> On Tuesday, September 25, 2018 at 4:29:27 PM UTC-4, Edward Prochak wrote:
>>> 
>>>>> Hey idiot, I didn't nym shifted....
>>> 
>>>> It sounds as you did. You nym'ed as someone defending you. You are a 
>>>> cheater and a liar.
>>> 
>>>>> Hilton Packett is not me.
>>> 
>>>> Assertion is not a valid argument.
>>> 
>>> Stupid Ken is right for once. "Hilton Packett" is the nymshifting troll, 
>>> not Ken. Ken is too stupid to know how to nymshift. I don't know why the 
>>> nymshifter is defending Ken.
>>> 
>>>>> Also IRT is not a subset of any other theory.
>>> 
>>>> Yes it is. You STOLE it from another crackpot, and put ur name on it and 
>>>> copyrighted it, just like de cheater you are. Remember, you DID admit to 
>>>> me this in the past, when I confronted you with an exact same copy of 
>>>> your irt.
>>> 
>>> Stupid Ken stole IRT? And that means there's someone else out there just 
>>> as stupid as Ken??
>> 
>> This is getting interesting. It explains a lot, like why Ken cannot
>> do even a simple calculation from "his own" formula for gravity.
>> 
> 
> No idiot,I said that I don’t want to do what you asked me to do. It is beneath me.
> 
> 

Lol. Doing what all physicists do is beneath you. 

-- 
Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#473254

Fromkenseto <setoken@att.net>
Date2018-09-27 06:47 -0700
Message-ID<72cad47e-2d0c-4130-8664-3de9eb0d476f@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#473223
On Wednesday, September 26, 2018 at 9:10:49 PM UTC-4, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> kenseto <setoken@att.net> wrote:
> > On Wednesday, September 26, 2018 at 12:54:49 PM UTC-4, Edward Prochak wrote:
> >> On Wednesday, September 26, 2018 at 12:11:54 AM UTC-4, Michael Moroney wrote:
> >>> rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> writes:
> >>> 
> >>>> On Tuesday, September 25, 2018 at 8:52:52 PM UTC-4, kenseto wrote:
> >>>>> On Tuesday, September 25, 2018 at 4:29:27 PM UTC-4, Edward Prochak wrote:
> >>> 
> >>>>> Hey idiot, I didn't nym shifted....
> >>> 
> >>>> It sounds as you did. You nym'ed as someone defending you. You are a 
> >>>> cheater and a liar.
> >>> 
> >>>>> Hilton Packett is not me.
> >>> 
> >>>> Assertion is not a valid argument.
> >>> 
> >>> Stupid Ken is right for once. "Hilton Packett" is the nymshifting troll, 
> >>> not Ken. Ken is too stupid to know how to nymshift. I don't know why the 
> >>> nymshifter is defending Ken.
> >>> 
> >>>>> Also IRT is not a subset of any other theory.
> >>> 
> >>>> Yes it is. You STOLE it from another crackpot, and put ur name on it and 
> >>>> copyrighted it, just like de cheater you are. Remember, you DID admit to 
> >>>> me this in the past, when I confronted you with an exact same copy of 
> >>>> your irt.
> >>> 
> >>> Stupid Ken stole IRT? And that means there's someone else out there just 
> >>> as stupid as Ken??
> >> 
> >> This is getting interesting. It explains a lot, like why Ken cannot
> >> do even a simple calculation from "his own" formula for gravity.
> >> 
> > 
> > No idiot,I said that I don’t want to do what you asked me to do. It is beneath me.
> > 
> > 
> 
> Lol. Doing what all physicists do is beneath you. 

It is beneath me to do work for amateur like you the woodworker and Ed.

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#473286

FromOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date2018-09-27 18:37 +0000
Message-ID<poj810$f17$2@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#473254
kenseto <setoken@att.net> wrote:
> On Wednesday, September 26, 2018 at 9:10:49 PM UTC-4, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>> kenseto <setoken@att.net> wrote:
>>> On Wednesday, September 26, 2018 at 12:54:49 PM UTC-4, Edward Prochak wrote:
>>>> On Wednesday, September 26, 2018 at 12:11:54 AM UTC-4, Michael Moroney wrote:
>>>>> rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> writes:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Tuesday, September 25, 2018 at 8:52:52 PM UTC-4, kenseto wrote:
>>>>>>> On Tuesday, September 25, 2018 at 4:29:27 PM UTC-4, Edward Prochak wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hey idiot, I didn't nym shifted....
>>>>> 
>>>>>> It sounds as you did. You nym'ed as someone defending you. You are a 
>>>>>> cheater and a liar.
>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hilton Packett is not me.
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Assertion is not a valid argument.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Stupid Ken is right for once. "Hilton Packett" is the nymshifting troll, 
>>>>> not Ken. Ken is too stupid to know how to nymshift. I don't know why the 
>>>>> nymshifter is defending Ken.
>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Also IRT is not a subset of any other theory.
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Yes it is. You STOLE it from another crackpot, and put ur name on it and 
>>>>>> copyrighted it, just like de cheater you are. Remember, you DID admit to 
>>>>>> me this in the past, when I confronted you with an exact same copy of 
>>>>>> your irt.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Stupid Ken stole IRT? And that means there's someone else out there just 
>>>>> as stupid as Ken??
>>>> 
>>>> This is getting interesting. It explains a lot, like why Ken cannot
>>>> do even a simple calculation from "his own" formula for gravity.
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> No idiot,I said that I don’t want to do what you asked me to do. It is beneath me.
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
>> Lol. Doing what all physicists do is beneath you. 
> 
> It is beneath me to do work for amateur like you the woodworker and Ed.
> 

It’s beneath you apparently to do it for anyone.  You haven’t done it for
physicists, you haven’t done it for anyone. Physicists do the calculations
as part of what they do. You want special dispensation just because you
don’t know how to do it?

-- 
Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#473403

Fromkenseto <setoken@att.net>
Date2018-09-28 13:18 -0700
Message-ID<91a85de4-fd47-4938-9a9c-b032b14f92f5@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#473286
On Thursday, September 27, 2018 at 2:37:24 PM UTC-4, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> kenseto <setoken@att.net> wrote:
> > On Wednesday, September 26, 2018 at 9:10:49 PM UTC-4, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> >> kenseto <setoken@att.net> wrote:
> >>> On Wednesday, September 26, 2018 at 12:54:49 PM UTC-4, Edward Prochak wrote:
> >>>> On Wednesday, September 26, 2018 at 12:11:54 AM UTC-4, Michael Moroney wrote:
> >>>>> rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> writes:
> >>>>> 
> >>>>>> On Tuesday, September 25, 2018 at 8:52:52 PM UTC-4, kenseto wrote:
> >>>>>>> On Tuesday, September 25, 2018 at 4:29:27 PM UTC-4, Edward Prochak wrote:
> >>>>> 
> >>>>>>> Hey idiot, I didn't nym shifted....
> >>>>> 
> >>>>>> It sounds as you did. You nym'ed as someone defending you. You are a 
> >>>>>> cheater and a liar.
> >>>>> 
> >>>>>>> Hilton Packett is not me.
> >>>>> 
> >>>>>> Assertion is not a valid argument.
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> Stupid Ken is right for once. "Hilton Packett" is the nymshifting troll, 
> >>>>> not Ken. Ken is too stupid to know how to nymshift. I don't know why the 
> >>>>> nymshifter is defending Ken.
> >>>>> 
> >>>>>>> Also IRT is not a subset of any other theory.
> >>>>> 
> >>>>>> Yes it is. You STOLE it from another crackpot, and put ur name on it and 
> >>>>>> copyrighted it, just like de cheater you are. Remember, you DID admit to 
> >>>>>> me this in the past, when I confronted you with an exact same copy of 
> >>>>>> your irt.
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> Stupid Ken stole IRT? And that means there's someone else out there just 
> >>>>> as stupid as Ken??
> >>>> 
> >>>> This is getting interesting. It explains a lot, like why Ken cannot
> >>>> do even a simple calculation from "his own" formula for gravity.
> >>>> 
> >>> 
> >>> No idiot,I said that I don’t want to do what you asked me to do. It is beneath me.
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >> 
> >> Lol. Doing what all physicists do is beneath you. 
> > 
> > It is beneath me to do work for amateur like you the woodworker and Ed.
> > 
> 
> It’s beneath you apparently to do it for anyone.  You haven’t done it for
> physicists, you haven’t done it for anyone. Physicists do the calculations
> as part of what they do. You want special dispensation just because you
> don’t know how to do it?

I haven’t encountered any real physicists here--just physicists want to be like yourself and Ed who are trying to refute my theory without doing any work themselves. Tom Roberts is a physicists but he did not asked me to do any calculations.

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#473433

FromOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date2018-09-28 22:05 +0000
Message-ID<pom8ja$1ger$2@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#473403
kenseto <setoken@att.net> wrote:
> On Thursday, September 27, 2018 at 2:37:24 PM UTC-4, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>> kenseto <setoken@att.net> wrote:
>>> On Wednesday, September 26, 2018 at 9:10:49 PM UTC-4, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>>>> kenseto <setoken@att.net> wrote:
>>>>> On Wednesday, September 26, 2018 at 12:54:49 PM UTC-4, Edward Prochak wrote:
>>>>>> On Wednesday, September 26, 2018 at 12:11:54 AM UTC-4, Michael Moroney wrote:
>>>>>>> rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> writes:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, September 25, 2018 at 8:52:52 PM UTC-4, kenseto wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, September 25, 2018 at 4:29:27 PM UTC-4, Edward Prochak wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Hey idiot, I didn't nym shifted....
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> It sounds as you did. You nym'ed as someone defending you. You are a 
>>>>>>>> cheater and a liar.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Hilton Packett is not me.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Assertion is not a valid argument.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Stupid Ken is right for once. "Hilton Packett" is the nymshifting troll, 
>>>>>>> not Ken. Ken is too stupid to know how to nymshift. I don't know why the 
>>>>>>> nymshifter is defending Ken.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Also IRT is not a subset of any other theory.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Yes it is. You STOLE it from another crackpot, and put ur name on it and 
>>>>>>>> copyrighted it, just like de cheater you are. Remember, you DID admit to 
>>>>>>>> me this in the past, when I confronted you with an exact same copy of 
>>>>>>>> your irt.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Stupid Ken stole IRT? And that means there's someone else out there just 
>>>>>>> as stupid as Ken??
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> This is getting interesting. It explains a lot, like why Ken cannot
>>>>>> do even a simple calculation from "his own" formula for gravity.
>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> No idiot,I said that I don’t want to do what you asked me to do. It is beneath me.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Lol. Doing what all physicists do is beneath you. 
>>> 
>>> It is beneath me to do work for amateur like you the woodworker and Ed.
>>> 
>> 
>> It’s beneath you apparently to do it for anyone.  You haven’t done it for
>> physicists, you haven’t done it for anyone. Physicists do the calculations
>> as part of what they do. You want special dispensation just because you
>> don’t know how to do it?
> 
> I haven’t encountered any real physicists here--

Oh I get that. So here’s your plan. Make sure you ONLY talk about your
theory in places where you are sure there are no physicists. Then when
someone points out that you have not produced what physicists produce, then
you will say you don’t owe that to anyone but physicists. In this way you
think you can go on pretending you have done physics, among people you
regard as being nonphysicists. 

It’s the fraudster’s gambit. A con man will happily pretend to be a surgeon
among people he is sure are not doctors. The con man will never attempt to
pretend to be a surgeon in a room full of surgeons. 

You’re a fraud. 

> just physicists want to be like yourself and Ed who are trying to refute
> my theory without doing any work themselves. Tom Roberts is a physicists
> but he did not asked me to do any calculations.
> 



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#473458

Fromkenseto <setoken@att.net>
Date2018-09-29 08:11 -0700
Message-ID<bacc9b14-95f1-4bed-be16-c534bd4612a6@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#473433
On Friday, September 28, 2018 at 6:05:34 PM UTC-4, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> kenseto <setoken@att.net> wrote:
> > On Thursday, September 27, 2018 at 2:37:24 PM UTC-4, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> >> kenseto <setoken@att.net> wrote:
> >>> On Wednesday, September 26, 2018 at 9:10:49 PM UTC-4, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> >>>> kenseto <setoken@att.net> wrote:
> >>>>> On Wednesday, September 26, 2018 at 12:54:49 PM UTC-4, Edward Prochak wrote:
> >>>>>> On Wednesday, September 26, 2018 at 12:11:54 AM UTC-4, Michael Moroney wrote:
> >>>>>>> rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> writes:
> >>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>> On Tuesday, September 25, 2018 at 8:52:52 PM UTC-4, kenseto wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, September 25, 2018 at 4:29:27 PM UTC-4, Edward Prochak wrote:
> >>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>> Hey idiot, I didn't nym shifted....
> >>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>> It sounds as you did. You nym'ed as someone defending you. You are a 
> >>>>>>>> cheater and a liar.
> >>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>> Hilton Packett is not me.
> >>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>> Assertion is not a valid argument.
> >>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>> Stupid Ken is right for once. "Hilton Packett" is the nymshifting troll, 
> >>>>>>> not Ken. Ken is too stupid to know how to nymshift. I don't know why the 
> >>>>>>> nymshifter is defending Ken.
> >>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>> Also IRT is not a subset of any other theory.
> >>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>> Yes it is. You STOLE it from another crackpot, and put ur name on it and 
> >>>>>>>> copyrighted it, just like de cheater you are. Remember, you DID admit to 
> >>>>>>>> me this in the past, when I confronted you with an exact same copy of 
> >>>>>>>> your irt.
> >>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>> Stupid Ken stole IRT? And that means there's someone else out there just 
> >>>>>>> as stupid as Ken??
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> This is getting interesting. It explains a lot, like why Ken cannot
> >>>>>> do even a simple calculation from "his own" formula for gravity.
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> No idiot,I said that I don’t want to do what you asked me to do. It is beneath me.
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> 
> >>>> 
> >>>> Lol. Doing what all physicists do is beneath you. 
> >>> 
> >>> It is beneath me to do work for amateur like you the woodworker and Ed.
> >>> 
> >> 
> >> It’s beneath you apparently to do it for anyone.  You haven’t done it for
> >> physicists, you haven’t done it for anyone. Physicists do the calculations
> >> as part of what they do. You want special dispensation just because you
> >> don’t know how to do it?
> > 
> > I haven’t encountered any real physicists here--
> 
> Oh I get that. So here’s your plan. Make sure you ONLY talk about your
> theory in places where you are sure there are no physicists. Then when
> someone points out that you have not produced what physicists produce, then
> you will say you don’t owe that to anyone but physicists. In this way you
> think you can go on pretending you have done physics, among people you
> regard as being nonphysicists. 

I don’t owe anything to anyone. I invented a new theory of the universe, a real physicist would try to understand my theory ask me relevant questions. A want to be physicist such as you and ED would try to refute it without understanding it. And asked me to do calculations knowing that the IRT equations call for data that are not yet available.

> 
> It’s the fraudster’s gambit. A con man will happily pretend to be a surgeon
> among people he is sure are not doctors. The con man will never attempt to
> pretend to be a surgeon in a room full of surgeons. 
> 
> You’re a fraud. 

How is that I am a fraud by inventing a new theory of relativity? You can point out that my theory is wrong because...... but not simply say that I am a fraud.

> 
> > just physicists want to be like yourself and Ed who are trying to refute
> > my theory without doing any work themselves. Tom Roberts is a physicists
> > but he did not asked me to do any calculations.
> > 
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#473459

FromOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date2018-09-29 15:25 +0000
Message-ID<poo5go$a66$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#473458
kenseto <setoken@att.net> wrote:
> On Friday, September 28, 2018 at 6:05:34 PM UTC-4, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>> kenseto <setoken@att.net> wrote:
>>> On Thursday, September 27, 2018 at 2:37:24 PM UTC-4, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>>>> kenseto <setoken@att.net> wrote:
>>>>> On Wednesday, September 26, 2018 at 9:10:49 PM UTC-4, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>>>>>> kenseto <setoken@att.net> wrote:
>>>>>>> On Wednesday, September 26, 2018 at 12:54:49 PM UTC-4, Edward Prochak wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Wednesday, September 26, 2018 at 12:11:54 AM UTC-4, Michael Moroney wrote:
>>>>>>>>> rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> writes:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, September 25, 2018 at 8:52:52 PM UTC-4, kenseto wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, September 25, 2018 at 4:29:27 PM UTC-4, Edward Prochak wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Hey idiot, I didn't nym shifted....
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> It sounds as you did. You nym'ed as someone defending you. You are a 
>>>>>>>>>> cheater and a liar.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Hilton Packett is not me.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Assertion is not a valid argument.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Stupid Ken is right for once. "Hilton Packett" is the nymshifting troll, 
>>>>>>>>> not Ken. Ken is too stupid to know how to nymshift. I don't know why the 
>>>>>>>>> nymshifter is defending Ken.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Also IRT is not a subset of any other theory.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Yes it is. You STOLE it from another crackpot, and put ur name on it and 
>>>>>>>>>> copyrighted it, just like de cheater you are. Remember, you DID admit to 
>>>>>>>>>> me this in the past, when I confronted you with an exact same copy of 
>>>>>>>>>> your irt.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Stupid Ken stole IRT? And that means there's someone else out there just 
>>>>>>>>> as stupid as Ken??
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> This is getting interesting. It explains a lot, like why Ken cannot
>>>>>>>> do even a simple calculation from "his own" formula for gravity.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> No idiot,I said that I don’t want to do what you asked me to do. It is beneath me.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Lol. Doing what all physicists do is beneath you. 
>>>>> 
>>>>> It is beneath me to do work for amateur like you the woodworker and Ed.
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> It’s beneath you apparently to do it for anyone.  You haven’t done it for
>>>> physicists, you haven’t done it for anyone. Physicists do the calculations
>>>> as part of what they do. You want special dispensation just because you
>>>> don’t know how to do it?
>>> 
>>> I haven’t encountered any real physicists here--
>> 
>> Oh I get that. So here’s your plan. Make sure you ONLY talk about your
>> theory in places where you are sure there are no physicists. Then when
>> someone points out that you have not produced what physicists produce, then
>> you will say you don’t owe that to anyone but physicists. In this way you
>> think you can go on pretending you have done physics, among people you
>> regard as being nonphysicists. 
> 
> I don’t owe anything to anyone. 

All physicists publish their calculationse . Not just write equations. You
say you don’t owe that to anyone. Ok so you’re not going to do physics.
You’re just going to pretend. 

> I invented a new theory of the universe, a real physicist would try to
> understand my theory ask me relevant questions. 

Don’t indulge your fantasies. A real physicist would ask you for your
calculations. Or, not seeing any calculations, would just ignore you
completely. Notice that the latter is what’s happened.  

> A want to be physicist such as you and ED would try to refute it without
> understanding it. And asked me to do calculations knowing that the IRT
> equations call for data that are not yet available.
> 
>> 
>> It’s the fraudster’s gambit. A con man will happily pretend to be a surgeon
>> among people he is sure are not doctors. The con man will never attempt to
>> pretend to be a surgeon in a room full of surgeons. 
>> 
>> You’re a fraud. 
> 
> How is that I am a fraud by inventing a new theory of relativity? You can
> point out that my theory is wrong because...... but not simply say that I am a fraud.

You’re a fraud because you don’t publish calculations like EVERY physicist
does. 

> 
>> 
>>> just physicists want to be like yourself and Ed who are trying to refute
>>> my theory without doing any work themselves. Tom Roberts is a physicists
>>> but he did not asked me to do any calculations.
>>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -- 
>> Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables
> 



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#473471

Fromkenseto <setoken@att.net>
Date2018-09-29 12:40 -0700
Message-ID<08888b07-21d1-4fc9-a6f1-b00270b07bb3@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#473459
On Saturday, September 29, 2018 at 11:25:16 AM UTC-4, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> kenseto <setoken@att.net> wrote:
> > On Friday, September 28, 2018 at 6:05:34 PM UTC-4, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> >> kenseto <setoken@att.net> wrote:
> >>> On Thursday, September 27, 2018 at 2:37:24 PM UTC-4, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> >>>> kenseto <setoken@att.net> wrote:
> >>>>> On Wednesday, September 26, 2018 at 9:10:49 PM UTC-4, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> >>>>>> kenseto <setoken@att.net> wrote:
> >>>>>>> On Wednesday, September 26, 2018 at 12:54:49 PM UTC-4, Edward Prochak wrote:
> >>>>>>>> On Wednesday, September 26, 2018 at 12:11:54 AM UTC-4, Michael Moroney wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> writes:
> >>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, September 25, 2018 at 8:52:52 PM UTC-4, kenseto wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, September 25, 2018 at 4:29:27 PM UTC-4, Edward Prochak wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>> Hey idiot, I didn't nym shifted....
> >>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>> It sounds as you did. You nym'ed as someone defending you. You are a 
> >>>>>>>>>> cheater and a liar.
> >>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>> Hilton Packett is not me.
> >>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>> Assertion is not a valid argument.
> >>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>> Stupid Ken is right for once. "Hilton Packett" is the nymshifting troll, 
> >>>>>>>>> not Ken. Ken is too stupid to know how to nymshift. I don't know why the 
> >>>>>>>>> nymshifter is defending Ken.
> >>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>> Also IRT is not a subset of any other theory.
> >>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>> Yes it is. You STOLE it from another crackpot, and put ur name on it and 
> >>>>>>>>>> copyrighted it, just like de cheater you are. Remember, you DID admit to 
> >>>>>>>>>> me this in the past, when I confronted you with an exact same copy of 
> >>>>>>>>>> your irt.
> >>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>> Stupid Ken stole IRT? And that means there's someone else out there just 
> >>>>>>>>> as stupid as Ken??
> >>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>> This is getting interesting. It explains a lot, like why Ken cannot
> >>>>>>>> do even a simple calculation from "his own" formula for gravity.
> >>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>> No idiot,I said that I don’t want to do what you asked me to do. It is beneath me.
> >>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>> 
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> Lol. Doing what all physicists do is beneath you. 
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> It is beneath me to do work for amateur like you the woodworker and Ed.
> >>>>> 
> >>>> 
> >>>> It’s beneath you apparently to do it for anyone.  You haven’t done it for
> >>>> physicists, you haven’t done it for anyone. Physicists do the calculations
> >>>> as part of what they do. You want special dispensation just because you
> >>>> don’t know how to do it?
> >>> 
> >>> I haven’t encountered any real physicists here--
> >> 
> >> Oh I get that. So here’s your plan. Make sure you ONLY talk about your
> >> theory in places where you are sure there are no physicists. Then when
> >> someone points out that you have not produced what physicists produce, then
> >> you will say you don’t owe that to anyone but physicists. In this way you
> >> think you can go on pretending you have done physics, among people you
> >> regard as being nonphysicists. 
> > 
> > I don’t owe anything to anyone. 
> 
> All physicists publish their calculationse . Not just write equations. You
> say you don’t owe that to anyone. Ok so you’re not going to do physics.
> You’re just going to pretend. 

Einstein’s 1905 paper just write down equations. Pretend what? I just published a new theory of relativity...no pretend there. I didn’t demand that you accept that I am a physicist. I am not, I am  Chemical Engineer.

> 
> > I invented a new theory of the universe, a real physicist would try to
> > understand my theory ask me relevant questions. 
> 
> Don’t indulge your fantasies. A real physicist would ask you for your
> calculations. Or, not seeing any calculations, would just ignore you
> completely. Notice that the latter is what’s happened.  

So I am not a real physicist. So what? Does that mean that I can’t have a new theory of relativity? I don’t think so.

> 
> > A want to be physicist such as you and ED would try to refute it without
> > understanding it. And asked me to do calculations knowing that the IRT
> > equations call for data that are not yet available.
> > 
> >> 
> >> It’s the fraudster’s gambit. A con man will happily pretend to be a surgeon
> >> among people he is sure are not doctors. The con man will never attempt to
> >> pretend to be a surgeon in a room full of surgeons. 
> >> 
> >> You’re a fraud. 
> > 
> > How is that I am a fraud by inventing a new theory of relativity? You can
> > point out that my theory is wrong because...... but not simply say that I am a fraud.
> 
> You’re a fraud because you don’t publish calculations like EVERY physicist
> does. 

Cry all you want....I don’t care.

> 
> > 
> >> 
> >>> just physicists want to be like yourself and Ed who are trying to refute
> >>> my theory without doing any work themselves. Tom Roberts is a physicists
> >>> but he did not asked me to do any calculations.
> >>> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> -- 
> >> Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables
> > 
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Odd Bodkin — Maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#473473

Frommoroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney)
Date2018-09-29 20:03 +0000
Message-ID<poolrb$fmo$1@pcls7.std.com>
In reply to#473471
kenseto <setoken@att.net> writes:

>> All physicists publish their calculationse . Not just write equations. You
>> say you don't owe that to anyone. Ok so you're not going to do physics.
>> You're just going to pretend.

>Pretend what? I just published a new theory of relativity...no pretend 
>there.

No, you pretended to have come up with a theory of relativity.

>I didn't demand that you accept that I am a physicist. I am not, I am  
>Chemical Engineer.

>> > I invented a new theory of the universe, a real physicist would try to
>> > understand my theory ask me relevant questions.

>> Don't indulge your fantasies. A real physicist would ask you for your
>> calculations. Or, not seeing any calculations, would just ignore you
>> completely. Notice that the latter is what's happened.

>So I am not a real physicist. So what? Does that mean that I can't
>have a new theory of relativity? I don't think so.

You can pretend all you want. Because you can't do anything physicists
would expect the creator of an actual theory to do, real physicists will
just ignore you. As indicated by the lack of sales of your book.

>> You're a fraud because you don't publish calculations like EVERY physicist
>> does.

>Cry all you want....I don't care.

Good. Real physicists won't care about you and your non-theory, either.

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#473499

FromOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date2018-09-29 22:03 +0000
Message-ID<poosrh$1igu$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#473471
kenseto <setoken@att.net> wrote:
> On Saturday, September 29, 2018 at 11:25:16 AM UTC-4, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>> kenseto <setoken@att.net> wrote:
>>> On Friday, September 28, 2018 at 6:05:34 PM UTC-4, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>>>> kenseto <setoken@att.net> wrote:
>>>>> On Thursday, September 27, 2018 at 2:37:24 PM UTC-4, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>>>>>> kenseto <setoken@att.net> wrote:
>>>>>>> On Wednesday, September 26, 2018 at 9:10:49 PM UTC-4, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>>>>>>>> kenseto <setoken@att.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Wednesday, September 26, 2018 at 12:54:49 PM UTC-4, Edward Prochak wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On Wednesday, September 26, 2018 at 12:11:54 AM UTC-4, Michael Moroney wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> writes:
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, September 25, 2018 at 8:52:52 PM UTC-4, kenseto wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, September 25, 2018 at 4:29:27 PM UTC-4, Edward Prochak wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hey idiot, I didn't nym shifted....
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> It sounds as you did. You nym'ed as someone defending you. You are a 
>>>>>>>>>>>> cheater and a liar.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hilton Packett is not me.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Assertion is not a valid argument.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Stupid Ken is right for once. "Hilton Packett" is the nymshifting troll, 
>>>>>>>>>>> not Ken. Ken is too stupid to know how to nymshift. I don't know why the 
>>>>>>>>>>> nymshifter is defending Ken.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Also IRT is not a subset of any other theory.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes it is. You STOLE it from another crackpot, and put ur name on it and 
>>>>>>>>>>>> copyrighted it, just like de cheater you are. Remember, you DID admit to 
>>>>>>>>>>>> me this in the past, when I confronted you with an exact same copy of 
>>>>>>>>>>>> your irt.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Stupid Ken stole IRT? And that means there's someone else out there just 
>>>>>>>>>>> as stupid as Ken??
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> This is getting interesting. It explains a lot, like why Ken cannot
>>>>>>>>>> do even a simple calculation from "his own" formula for gravity.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> No idiot,I said that I don’t want to do what you asked me to do. It is beneath me.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Lol. Doing what all physicists do is beneath you. 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> It is beneath me to do work for amateur like you the woodworker and Ed.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> It’s beneath you apparently to do it for anyone.  You haven’t done it for
>>>>>> physicists, you haven’t done it for anyone. Physicists do the calculations
>>>>>> as part of what they do. You want special dispensation just because you
>>>>>> don’t know how to do it?
>>>>> 
>>>>> I haven’t encountered any real physicists here--
>>>> 
>>>> Oh I get that. So here’s your plan. Make sure you ONLY talk about your
>>>> theory in places where you are sure there are no physicists. Then when
>>>> someone points out that you have not produced what physicists produce, then
>>>> you will say you don’t owe that to anyone but physicists. In this way you
>>>> think you can go on pretending you have done physics, among people you
>>>> regard as being nonphysicists. 
>>> 
>>> I don’t owe anything to anyone. 
>> 
>> All physicists publish their calculationse . Not just write equations. You
>> say you don’t owe that to anyone. Ok so you’re not going to do physics.
>> You’re just going to pretend. 
> 
> Einstein’s 1905 paper just write down equations. 

He wrote five papers in 1905. And he did do calculations in papers other
than the one you’ve cherry picked. 

> Pretend what? I just published a new theory of relativity...no pretend
> there. I didn’t demand that you accept that I am a physicist. I am not, I
> am  Chemical Engineer.
> 
>> 
>>> I invented a new theory of the universe, a real physicist would try to
>>> understand my theory ask me relevant questions. 
>> 
>> Don’t indulge your fantasies. A real physicist would ask you for your
>> calculations. Or, not seeing any calculations, would just ignore you
>> completely. Notice that the latter is what’s happened.  
> 
> So I am not a real physicist. So what? Does that mean that I can’t have a
> new theory of relativity? I don’t think so.

But you don’t. Your “theory” lacks calculations.

> 
>> 
>>> A want to be physicist such as you and ED would try to refute it without
>>> understanding it. And asked me to do calculations knowing that the IRT
>>> equations call for data that are not yet available.
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> It’s the fraudster’s gambit. A con man will happily pretend to be a surgeon
>>>> among people he is sure are not doctors. The con man will never attempt to
>>>> pretend to be a surgeon in a room full of surgeons. 
>>>> 
>>>> You’re a fraud. 
>>> 
>>> How is that I am a fraud by inventing a new theory of relativity? You can
>>> point out that my theory is wrong because...... but not simply say that I am a fraud.
>> 
>> You’re a fraud because you don’t publish calculations like EVERY physicist
>> does. 
> 
> Cry all you want....I don’t care.

Yes I know you don’t care. You just like to pretend. 

Fraud. 

> 
>> 
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> just physicists want to be like yourself and Ed who are trying to refute
>>>>> my theory without doing any work themselves. Tom Roberts is a physicists
>>>>> but he did not asked me to do any calculations.
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> -- 
>>>> Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables
>>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -- 
>> Odd Bodkin — Maker of fine toys, tools, tables
> 



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#473642

Fromkenseto <setoken@att.net>
Date2018-09-30 19:07 -0700
Message-ID<666c18f3-b320-4d85-8f62-164e1457d260@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#473499
On Saturday, September 29, 2018 at 6:03:34 PM UTC-4, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> kenseto <setoken@att.net> wrote:
> > On Saturday, September 29, 2018 at 11:25:16 AM UTC-4, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> >> kenseto <setoken@att.net> wrote:
> >>> On Friday, September 28, 2018 at 6:05:34 PM UTC-4, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> >>>> kenseto <setoken@att.net> wrote:
> >>>>> On Thursday, September 27, 2018 at 2:37:24 PM UTC-4, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> >>>>>> kenseto <setoken@att.net> wrote:
> >>>>>>> On Wednesday, September 26, 2018 at 9:10:49 PM UTC-4, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> >>>>>>>> kenseto <setoken@att.net> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> On Wednesday, September 26, 2018 at 12:54:49 PM UTC-4, Edward Prochak wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>> On Wednesday, September 26, 2018 at 12:11:54 AM UTC-4, Michael Moroney wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>> rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> writes:
> >>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, September 25, 2018 at 8:52:52 PM UTC-4, kenseto wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, September 25, 2018 at 4:29:27 PM UTC-4, Edward Prochak wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Hey idiot, I didn't nym shifted....
> >>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>> It sounds as you did. You nym'ed as someone defending you. You are a 
> >>>>>>>>>>>> cheater and a liar.
> >>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Hilton Packett is not me.
> >>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Assertion is not a valid argument.
> >>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>> Stupid Ken is right for once. "Hilton Packett" is the nymshifting troll, 
> >>>>>>>>>>> not Ken. Ken is too stupid to know how to nymshift. I don't know why the 
> >>>>>>>>>>> nymshifter is defending Ken.
> >>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Also IRT is not a subset of any other theory.
> >>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Yes it is. You STOLE it from another crackpot, and put ur name on it and 
> >>>>>>>>>>>> copyrighted it, just like de cheater you are. Remember, you DID admit to 
> >>>>>>>>>>>> me this in the past, when I confronted you with an exact same copy of 
> >>>>>>>>>>>> your irt.
> >>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>> Stupid Ken stole IRT? And that means there's someone else out there just 
> >>>>>>>>>>> as stupid as Ken??
> >>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>> This is getting interesting. It explains a lot, like why Ken cannot
> >>>>>>>>>> do even a simple calculation from "his own" formula for gravity.
> >>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>> No idiot,I said that I don’t want to do what you asked me to do. It is beneath me.
> >>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>> Lol. Doing what all physicists do is beneath you. 
> >>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>> It is beneath me to do work for amateur like you the woodworker and Ed.
> >>>>>>> 
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> It’s beneath you apparently to do it for anyone.  You haven’t done it for
> >>>>>> physicists, you haven’t done it for anyone. Physicists do the calculations
> >>>>>> as part of what they do. You want special dispensation just because you
> >>>>>> don’t know how to do it?
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> I haven’t encountered any real physicists here--
> >>>> 
> >>>> Oh I get that. So here’s your plan. Make sure you ONLY talk about your
> >>>> theory in places where you are sure there are no physicists. Then when
> >>>> someone points out that you have not produced what physicists produce, then
> >>>> you will say you don’t owe that to anyone but physicists. In this way you
> >>>> think you can go on pretending you have done physics, among people you
> >>>> regard as being nonphysicists. 
> >>> 
> >>> I don’t owe anything to anyone. 
> >> 
> >> All physicists publish their calculationse . Not just write equations. You
> >> say you don’t owe that to anyone. Ok so you’re not going to do physics.
> >> You’re just going to pretend. 
> > 
> > Einstein’s 1905 paper just write down equations. 
> 
> He wrote five papers in 1905. And he did do calculations in papers other
> than the one you’ve cherry picked.

What other 1905 Einstein papers contains calculations?
 
> 
> > Pretend what? I just published a new theory of relativity...no pretend
> > there. I didn’t demand that you accept that I am a physicist. I am not, I
> > am  Chemical Engineer.
> > 
> >> 
> >>> I invented a new theory of the universe, a real physicist would try to
> >>> understand my theory ask me relevant questions. 
> >> 
> >> Don’t indulge your fantasies. A real physicist would ask you for your
> >> calculations. Or, not seeing any calculations, would just ignore you
> >> completely. Notice that the latter is what’s happened.  
> > 
> > So I am not a real physicist. So what? Does that mean that I can’t have a
> > new theory of relativity? I don’t think so.
> 
> But you don’t. Your “theory” lacks calculations.

So? 

> 
> > 
> >> 
> >>> A want to be physicist such as you and ED would try to refute it without
> >>> understanding it. And asked me to do calculations knowing that the IRT
> >>> equations call for data that are not yet available.
> >>> 
> >>>> 
> >>>> It’s the fraudster’s gambit. A con man will happily pretend to be a surgeon
> >>>> among people he is sure are not doctors. The con man will never attempt to
> >>>> pretend to be a surgeon in a room full of surgeons. 
> >>>> 
> >>>> You’re a fraud. 
> >>> 
> >>> How is that I am a fraud by inventing a new theory of relativity? You can
> >>> point out that my theory is wrong because...... but not simply say that I am a fraud.
> >> 
> >> You’re a fraud because you don’t publish calculations like EVERY physicist
> >> does. 
> > 
> > Cry all you want....I don’t care.
> 
> Yes I know you don’t care. You just like to pretend. 
> Fraud. 

You don’t know the meaning of the phrase “to pretend”.

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#473666

FromOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date2018-10-01 14:52 +0000
Message-ID<potcau$fgr$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#473642
kenseto <setoken@att.net> wrote:
> On Saturday, September 29, 2018 at 6:03:34 PM UTC-4, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>> kenseto <setoken@att.net> wrote:
>>> On Saturday, September 29, 2018 at 11:25:16 AM UTC-4, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>>>> kenseto <setoken@att.net> wrote:
>>>>> On Friday, September 28, 2018 at 6:05:34 PM UTC-4, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>>>>>> kenseto <setoken@att.net> wrote:
>>>>>>> On Thursday, September 27, 2018 at 2:37:24 PM UTC-4, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>>>>>>>> kenseto <setoken@att.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Wednesday, September 26, 2018 at 9:10:49 PM UTC-4, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> kenseto <setoken@att.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On Wednesday, September 26, 2018 at 12:54:49 PM UTC-4, Edward Prochak wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wednesday, September 26, 2018 at 12:11:54 AM UTC-4, Michael Moroney wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> writes:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, September 25, 2018 at 8:52:52 PM UTC-4, kenseto wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, September 25, 2018 at 4:29:27 PM UTC-4, Edward Prochak wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hey idiot, I didn't nym shifted....
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It sounds as you did. You nym'ed as someone defending you. You are a 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cheater and a liar.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hilton Packett is not me.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Assertion is not a valid argument.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Stupid Ken is right for once. "Hilton Packett" is the nymshifting troll, 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> not Ken. Ken is too stupid to know how to nymshift. I don't know why the 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> nymshifter is defending Ken.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Also IRT is not a subset of any other theory.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes it is. You STOLE it from another crackpot, and put ur name on it and 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> copyrighted it, just like de cheater you are. Remember, you DID admit to 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> me this in the past, when I confronted you with an exact same copy of 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> your irt.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Stupid Ken stole IRT? And that means there's someone else out there just 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> as stupid as Ken??
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> This is getting interesting. It explains a lot, like why Ken cannot
>>>>>>>>>>>> do even a simple calculation from "his own" formula for gravity.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> No idiot,I said that I don’t want to do what you asked me to
>>>>>>>>>>> do. It is beneath me.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Lol. Doing what all physicists do is beneath you. 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> It is beneath me to do work for amateur like you the woodworker and Ed.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> It’s beneath you apparently to do it for anyone.  You haven’t done it for
>>>>>>>> physicists, you haven’t done it for anyone. Physicists do the calculations
>>>>>>>> as part of what they do. You want special dispensation just because you
>>>>>>>> don’t know how to do it?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I haven’t encountered any real physicists here--
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Oh I get that. So here’s your plan. Make sure you ONLY talk about your
>>>>>> theory in places where you are sure there are no physicists. Then when
>>>>>> someone points out that you have not produced what physicists produce, then
>>>>>> you will say you don’t owe that to anyone but physicists. In this way you
>>>>>> think you can go on pretending you have done physics, among people you
>>>>>> regard as being nonphysicists. 
>>>>> 
>>>>> I don’t owe anything to anyone. 
>>>> 
>>>> All physicists publish their calculationse . Not just write equations. You
>>>> say you don’t owe that to anyone. Ok so you’re not going to do physics.
>>>> You’re just going to pretend. 
>>> 
>>> Einstein’s 1905 paper just write down equations. 
>> 
>> He wrote five papers in 1905. And he did do calculations in papers other
>> than the one you’ve cherry picked.
> 
> What other 1905 Einstein papers contains calculations?

The other four. 

I assume you know what they were about. 

>  
>> 
>>> Pretend what? I just published a new theory of relativity...no pretend
>>> there. I didn’t demand that you accept that I am a physicist. I am not, I
>>> am  Chemical Engineer.
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> I invented a new theory of the universe, a real physicist would try to
>>>>> understand my theory ask me relevant questions. 
>>>> 
>>>> Don’t indulge your fantasies. A real physicist would ask you for your
>>>> calculations. Or, not seeing any calculations, would just ignore you
>>>> completely. Notice that the latter is what’s happened.  
>>> 
>>> So I am not a real physicist. So what? Does that mean that I can’t have a
>>> new theory of relativity? I don’t think so.
>> 
>> But you don’t. Your “theory” lacks calculations.
> 
> So? 

So, physicists won’t regard it as a theory until you fix that. 

> 
>> 
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> A want to be physicist such as you and ED would try to refute it without
>>>>> understanding it. And asked me to do calculations knowing that the IRT
>>>>> equations call for data that are not yet available.
>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> It’s the fraudster’s gambit. A con man will happily pretend to be a surgeon
>>>>>> among people he is sure are not doctors. The con man will never attempt to
>>>>>> pretend to be a surgeon in a room full of surgeons. 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> You’re a fraud. 
>>>>> 
>>>>> How is that I am a fraud by inventing a new theory of relativity? You can
>>>>> point out that my theory is wrong because...... but not simply say that I am a fraud.
>>>> 
>>>> You’re a fraud because you don’t publish calculations like EVERY physicist
>>>> does. 
>>> 
>>> Cry all you want....I don’t care.
>> 
>> Yes I know you don’t care. You just like to pretend. 
>> Fraud. 
> 
> You don’t know the meaning of the phrase “to pretend”.
> 



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#473692

Fromkenseto <setoken@att.net>
Date2018-10-01 11:46 -0700
Message-ID<c5e8b9d0-9019-4ea3-8e88-6e08667bd92f@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#473666
On Monday, October 1, 2018 at 10:52:17 AM UTC-4, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> kenseto <setoken@att.net> wrote:
> > On Saturday, September 29, 2018 at 6:03:34 PM UTC-4, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> >> kenseto <setoken@att.net> wrote:
> >>> On Saturday, September 29, 2018 at 11:25:16 AM UTC-4, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> >>>> kenseto <setoken@att.net> wrote:
> >>>>> On Friday, September 28, 2018 at 6:05:34 PM UTC-4, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> >>>>>> kenseto <setoken@att.net> wrote:
> >>>>>>> On Thursday, September 27, 2018 at 2:37:24 PM UTC-4, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> >>>>>>>> kenseto <setoken@att.net> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> On Wednesday, September 26, 2018 at 9:10:49 PM UTC-4, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>> kenseto <setoken@att.net> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>> On Wednesday, September 26, 2018 at 12:54:49 PM UTC-4, Edward Prochak wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Wednesday, September 26, 2018 at 12:11:54 AM UTC-4, Michael Moroney wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> writes:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, September 25, 2018 at 8:52:52 PM UTC-4, kenseto wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, September 25, 2018 at 4:29:27 PM UTC-4, Edward Prochak wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hey idiot, I didn't nym shifted....
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> It sounds as you did. You nym'ed as someone defending you. You are a 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> cheater and a liar.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hilton Packett is not me.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Assertion is not a valid argument.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Stupid Ken is right for once. "Hilton Packett" is the nymshifting troll, 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> not Ken. Ken is too stupid to know how to nymshift. I don't know why the 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> nymshifter is defending Ken.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Also IRT is not a subset of any other theory.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes it is. You STOLE it from another crackpot, and put ur name on it and 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> copyrighted it, just like de cheater you are. Remember, you DID admit to 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> me this in the past, when I confronted you with an exact same copy of 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> your irt.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Stupid Ken stole IRT? And that means there's someone else out there just 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> as stupid as Ken??
> >>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>> This is getting interesting. It explains a lot, like why Ken cannot
> >>>>>>>>>>>> do even a simple calculation from "his own" formula for gravity.
> >>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>> No idiot,I said that I don’t want to do what you asked me to
> >>>>>>>>>>> do. It is beneath me.
> >>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>> Lol. Doing what all physicists do is beneath you. 
> >>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>> It is beneath me to do work for amateur like you the woodworker and Ed.
> >>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>> It’s beneath you apparently to do it for anyone.  You haven’t done it for
> >>>>>>>> physicists, you haven’t done it for anyone. Physicists do the calculations
> >>>>>>>> as part of what they do. You want special dispensation just because you
> >>>>>>>> don’t know how to do it?
> >>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>> I haven’t encountered any real physicists here--
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> Oh I get that. So here’s your plan. Make sure you ONLY talk about your
> >>>>>> theory in places where you are sure there are no physicists. Then when
> >>>>>> someone points out that you have not produced what physicists produce, then
> >>>>>> you will say you don’t owe that to anyone but physicists. In this way you
> >>>>>> think you can go on pretending you have done physics, among people you
> >>>>>> regard as being nonphysicists. 
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> I don’t owe anything to anyone. 
> >>>> 
> >>>> All physicists publish their calculationse . Not just write equations. You
> >>>> say you don’t owe that to anyone. Ok so you’re not going to do physics.
> >>>> You’re just going to pretend. 
> >>> 
> >>> Einstein’s 1905 paper just write down equations. 
> >> 
> >> He wrote five papers in 1905. And he did do calculations in papers other
> >> than the one you’ve cherry picked.
> > 
> > What other 1905 Einstein papers contains calculations?
> 
> The other four. 
> 
> I assume you know what they were about. 

I was not able to find any 1905 Einstein papers that contains calculations. In any case, his SR paper is parallel to my IRT paper--both contain no calculation. Also your opinion is not important--you carry no weight in the physics community. 
 
> 
> >  
> >> 
> >>> Pretend what? I just published a new theory of relativity...no pretend
> >>> there. I didn’t demand that you accept that I am a physicist. I am not, I
> >>> am  Chemical Engineer.
> >>> 
> >>>> 
> >>>>> I invented a new theory of the universe, a real physicist would try to
> >>>>> understand my theory ask me relevant questions. 
> >>>> 
> >>>> Don’t indulge your fantasies. A real physicist would ask you for your
> >>>> calculations. Or, not seeing any calculations, would just ignore you
> >>>> completely. Notice that the latter is what’s happened.  
> >>> 
> >>> So I am not a real physicist. So what? Does that mean that I can’t have a
> >>> new theory of relativity? I don’t think so.
> >> 
> >> But you don’t. Your “theory” lacks calculations.
> > 
> > So? 
> 
> So, physicists won’t regard it as a theory until you fix that. 

You are not a physicist--you are a woodworker.

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#473714

FromOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date2018-10-01 21:30 +0000
Message-ID<pou3li$1qs6$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#473692
kenseto <setoken@att.net> wrote:
> On Monday, October 1, 2018 at 10:52:17 AM UTC-4, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>> kenseto <setoken@att.net> wrote:
>>> On Saturday, September 29, 2018 at 6:03:34 PM UTC-4, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>>>> kenseto <setoken@att.net> wrote:
>>>>> On Saturday, September 29, 2018 at 11:25:16 AM UTC-4, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>>>>>> kenseto <setoken@att.net> wrote:
>>>>>>> On Friday, September 28, 2018 at 6:05:34 PM UTC-4, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>>>>>>>> kenseto <setoken@att.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Thursday, September 27, 2018 at 2:37:24 PM UTC-4, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> kenseto <setoken@att.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On Wednesday, September 26, 2018 at 9:10:49 PM UTC-4, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> kenseto <setoken@att.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wednesday, September 26, 2018 at 12:54:49 PM UTC-4, Edward Prochak wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wednesday, September 26, 2018 at 12:11:54 AM UTC-4, Michael Moroney wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> writes:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, September 25, 2018 at 8:52:52 PM UTC-4, kenseto wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, September 25, 2018 at 4:29:27 PM UTC-4, Edward Prochak wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hey idiot, I didn't nym shifted....
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It sounds as you did. You nym'ed as someone defending you. You are a 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cheater and a liar.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hilton Packett is not me.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Assertion is not a valid argument.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Stupid Ken is right for once. "Hilton Packett" is the nymshifting troll, 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not Ken. Ken is too stupid to know how to nymshift. I don't know why the 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nymshifter is defending Ken.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Also IRT is not a subset of any other theory.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes it is. You STOLE it from another crackpot, and put ur name on it and 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> copyrighted it, just like de cheater you are. Remember, you DID admit to 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> me this in the past, when I confronted you with an exact same copy of 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> your irt.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Stupid Ken stole IRT? And that means there's someone else out there just 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> as stupid as Ken??
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This is getting interesting. It explains a lot, like why Ken cannot
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> do even a simple calculation from "his own" formula for gravity.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> No idiot,I said that I don’t want to do what you asked me to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> do. It is beneath me.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Lol. Doing what all physicists do is beneath you. 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> It is beneath me to do work for amateur like you the woodworker and Ed.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> It’s beneath you apparently to do it for anyone.  You haven’t done it for
>>>>>>>>>> physicists, you haven’t done it for anyone. Physicists do the calculations
>>>>>>>>>> as part of what they do. You want special dispensation just because you
>>>>>>>>>> don’t know how to do it?
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> I haven’t encountered any real physicists here--
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Oh I get that. So here’s your plan. Make sure you ONLY talk about your
>>>>>>>> theory in places where you are sure there are no physicists. Then when
>>>>>>>> someone points out that you have not produced what physicists produce, then
>>>>>>>> you will say you don’t owe that to anyone but physicists. In this way you
>>>>>>>> think you can go on pretending you have done physics, among people you
>>>>>>>> regard as being nonphysicists. 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I don’t owe anything to anyone. 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> All physicists publish their calculationse . Not just write equations. You
>>>>>> say you don’t owe that to anyone. Ok so you’re not going to do physics.
>>>>>> You’re just going to pretend. 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Einstein’s 1905 paper just write down equations. 
>>>> 
>>>> He wrote five papers in 1905. And he did do calculations in papers other
>>>> than the one you’ve cherry picked.
>>> 
>>> What other 1905 Einstein papers contains calculations?
>> 
>> The other four. 
>> 
>> I assume you know what they were about. 
> 
> I was not able to find any 1905 Einstein papers that contains calculations. 

This is perhaps because you have no knowledge of any of the other papers he
wrote in 1905, and you have no idea how to find out. 

Here’s a hint for one of them. Brownian motion, complete with calculations.


> In any case, his SR paper is parallel to my IRT paper--both contain no
> calculation. Also your opinion is not important--you carry no weight in
> the physics community. 

There is nobody that carries any weight with you. 

>  
>> 
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> Pretend what? I just published a new theory of relativity...no pretend
>>>>> there. I didn’t demand that you accept that I am a physicist. I am not, I
>>>>> am  Chemical Engineer.
>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I invented a new theory of the universe, a real physicist would try to
>>>>>>> understand my theory ask me relevant questions. 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Don’t indulge your fantasies. A real physicist would ask you for your
>>>>>> calculations. Or, not seeing any calculations, would just ignore you
>>>>>> completely. Notice that the latter is what’s happened.  
>>>>> 
>>>>> So I am not a real physicist. So what? Does that mean that I can’t have a
>>>>> new theory of relativity? I don’t think so.
>>>> 
>>>> But you don’t. Your “theory” lacks calculations.
>>> 
>>> So? 
>> 
>> So, physicists won’t regard it as a theory until you fix that. 
> 
> You are not a physicist--you are a woodworker.

That’s right. And you’ve gotten zero attention from physicists either. For
the reason mentioned. 

> 
> 
> 



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#473812

Fromkenseto <setoken@att.net>
Date2018-10-02 07:30 -0700
Message-ID<ec6b1d01-7cbf-4a1c-bf77-7c86606decef@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#473714
On Monday, October 1, 2018 at 5:30:30 PM UTC-4, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> kenseto <setoken@att.net> wrote:
> > On Monday, October 1, 2018 at 10:52:17 AM UTC-4, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> >> kenseto <setoken@att.net> wrote:
> >>> On Saturday, September 29, 2018 at 6:03:34 PM UTC-4, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> >>>> kenseto <setoken@att.net> wrote:
> >>>>> On Saturday, September 29, 2018 at 11:25:16 AM UTC-4, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> >>>>>> kenseto <setoken@att.net> wrote:
> >>>>>>> On Friday, September 28, 2018 at 6:05:34 PM UTC-4, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> >>>>>>>> kenseto <setoken@att.net> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> On Thursday, September 27, 2018 at 2:37:24 PM UTC-4, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>> kenseto <setoken@att.net> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>> On Wednesday, September 26, 2018 at 9:10:49 PM UTC-4, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>> kenseto <setoken@att.net> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wednesday, September 26, 2018 at 12:54:49 PM UTC-4, Edward Prochak wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wednesday, September 26, 2018 at 12:11:54 AM UTC-4, Michael Moroney wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> writes:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, September 25, 2018 at 8:52:52 PM UTC-4, kenseto wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, September 25, 2018 at 4:29:27 PM UTC-4, Edward Prochak wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hey idiot, I didn't nym shifted....
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It sounds as you did. You nym'ed as someone defending you. You are a 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cheater and a liar.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hilton Packett is not me.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Assertion is not a valid argument.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Stupid Ken is right for once. "Hilton Packett" is the nymshifting troll, 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not Ken. Ken is too stupid to know how to nymshift. I don't know why the 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nymshifter is defending Ken.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Also IRT is not a subset of any other theory.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes it is. You STOLE it from another crackpot, and put ur name on it and 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> copyrighted it, just like de cheater you are. Remember, you DID admit to 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> me this in the past, when I confronted you with an exact same copy of 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> your irt.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Stupid Ken stole IRT? And that means there's someone else out there just 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> as stupid as Ken??
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> This is getting interesting. It explains a lot, like why Ken cannot
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> do even a simple calculation from "his own" formula for gravity.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> No idiot,I said that I don’t want to do what you asked me to
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> do. It is beneath me.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Lol. Doing what all physicists do is beneath you. 
> >>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>> It is beneath me to do work for amateur like you the woodworker and Ed.
> >>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>> It’s beneath you apparently to do it for anyone.  You haven’t done it for
> >>>>>>>>>> physicists, you haven’t done it for anyone. Physicists do the calculations
> >>>>>>>>>> as part of what they do. You want special dispensation just because you
> >>>>>>>>>> don’t know how to do it?
> >>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>> I haven’t encountered any real physicists here--
> >>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>> Oh I get that. So here’s your plan. Make sure you ONLY talk about your
> >>>>>>>> theory in places where you are sure there are no physicists. Then when
> >>>>>>>> someone points out that you have not produced what physicists produce, then
> >>>>>>>> you will say you don’t owe that to anyone but physicists. In this way you
> >>>>>>>> think you can go on pretending you have done physics, among people you
> >>>>>>>> regard as being nonphysicists. 
> >>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>> I don’t owe anything to anyone. 
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> All physicists publish their calculationse . Not just write equations. You
> >>>>>> say you don’t owe that to anyone. Ok so you’re not going to do physics.
> >>>>>> You’re just going to pretend. 
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> Einstein’s 1905 paper just write down equations. 
> >>>> 
> >>>> He wrote five papers in 1905. And he did do calculations in papers other
> >>>> than the one you’ve cherry picked.
> >>> 
> >>> What other 1905 Einstein papers contains calculations?
> >> 
> >> The other four. 
> >> 
> >> I assume you know what they were about. 
> > 
> > I was not able to find any 1905 Einstein papers that contains calculations. 
> 
> This is perhaps because you have no knowledge of any of the other papers he
> wrote in 1905, and you have no idea how to find out. 
> 
> Here’s a hint for one of them. Brownian motion, complete with calculations.

We are not talking about Brownian motion. We are talking about the 1905 SR paper compared with my IRT paper.

> 
> 
> > In any case, his SR paper is parallel to my IRT paper--both contain no
> > calculation. Also your opinion is not important--you carry no weight in
> > the physics community. 
> 
> There is nobody that carries any weight with you. 

I value Tom Roberts’ posts. He doesn’t make blanket statements like you.
> 
> >  
> >> 
> >>> 
> >>>> 
> >>>>> Pretend what? I just published a new theory of relativity...no pretend
> >>>>> there. I didn’t demand that you accept that I am a physicist. I am not, I
> >>>>> am  Chemical Engineer.
> >>>>> 
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>>> I invented a new theory of the universe, a real physicist would try to
> >>>>>>> understand my theory ask me relevant questions. 
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> Don’t indulge your fantasies. A real physicist would ask you for your
> >>>>>> calculations. Or, not seeing any calculations, would just ignore you
> >>>>>> completely. Notice that the latter is what’s happened.  
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> So I am not a real physicist. So what? Does that mean that I can’t have a
> >>>>> new theory of relativity? I don’t think so.
> >>>> 
> >>>> But you don’t. Your “theory” lacks calculations.
> >>> 
> >>> So? 
> >> 
> >> So, physicists won’t regard it as a theory until you fix that. 
> > 
> > You are not a physicist--you are a woodworker.
> 
> That’s right. And you’ve gotten zero attention from physicists either. For
> the reason mentioned. 

Perhaps they are too embarrassed to aka many comments.

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FromOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date2018-10-02 17:08 +0000
Message-ID<pp08n6$1bfq$2@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#473812
kenseto <setoken@att.net> wrote:
> On Monday, October 1, 2018 at 5:30:30 PM UTC-4, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>> kenseto <setoken@att.net> wrote:
>>> On Monday, October 1, 2018 at 10:52:17 AM UTC-4, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>>>> kenseto <setoken@att.net> wrote:
>>>>> On Saturday, September 29, 2018 at 6:03:34 PM UTC-4, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>>>>>> kenseto <setoken@att.net> wrote:
>>>>>>> On Saturday, September 29, 2018 at 11:25:16 AM UTC-4, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>>>>>>>> kenseto <setoken@att.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Friday, September 28, 2018 at 6:05:34 PM UTC-4, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> kenseto <setoken@att.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On Thursday, September 27, 2018 at 2:37:24 PM UTC-4, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> kenseto <setoken@att.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wednesday, September 26, 2018 at 9:10:49 PM UTC-4, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> kenseto <setoken@att.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wednesday, September 26, 2018 at 12:54:49 PM UTC-4, Edward Prochak wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wednesday, September 26, 2018 at 12:11:54 AM UTC-4, Michael Moroney
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> writes:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, September 25, 2018 at 8:52:52 PM UTC-4, kenseto wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, September 25, 2018 at 4:29:27 PM UTC-4, Edward Prochak wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hey idiot, I didn't nym shifted....
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It sounds as you did. You nym'ed as someone defending you. You are a 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cheater and a liar.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hilton Packett is not me.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Assertion is not a valid argument.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Stupid Ken is right for once. "Hilton Packett" is the nymshifting troll, 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not Ken. Ken is too stupid to know how to nymshift. I don't know why the 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nymshifter is defending Ken.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Also IRT is not a subset of any other theory.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes it is. You STOLE it from another crackpot, and put ur name on it and 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> copyrighted it, just like de cheater you are. Remember, you DID admit to 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> me this in the past, when I confronted you with an exact same copy of 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> your irt.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Stupid Ken stole IRT? And that means there's someone else out there just 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> as stupid as Ken??
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This is getting interesting. It explains a lot, like why Ken cannot
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> do even a simple calculation from "his own" formula for gravity.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No idiot,I said that I don’t want to do what you asked me to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> do. It is beneath me.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Lol. Doing what all physicists do is beneath you. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> It is beneath me to do work for amateur like you the woodworker and Ed.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> It’s beneath you apparently to do it for anyone.  You haven’t done it for
>>>>>>>>>>>> physicists, you haven’t done it for anyone. Physicists do the calculations
>>>>>>>>>>>> as part of what they do. You want special dispensation just because you
>>>>>>>>>>>> don’t know how to do it?
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> I haven’t encountered any real physicists here--
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Oh I get that. So here’s your plan. Make sure you ONLY talk about your
>>>>>>>>>> theory in places where you are sure there are no physicists. Then when
>>>>>>>>>> someone points out that you have not produced what physicists produce, then
>>>>>>>>>> you will say you don’t owe that to anyone but physicists. In this way you
>>>>>>>>>> think you can go on pretending you have done physics, among people you
>>>>>>>>>> regard as being nonphysicists. 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> I don’t owe anything to anyone. 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> All physicists publish their calculationse . Not just write equations. You
>>>>>>>> say you don’t owe that to anyone. Ok so you’re not going to do physics.
>>>>>>>> You’re just going to pretend. 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Einstein’s 1905 paper just write down equations. 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> He wrote five papers in 1905. And he did do calculations in papers other
>>>>>> than the one you’ve cherry picked.
>>>>> 
>>>>> What other 1905 Einstein papers contains calculations?
>>>> 
>>>> The other four. 
>>>> 
>>>> I assume you know what they were about. 
>>> 
>>> I was not able to find any 1905 Einstein papers that contains calculations. 
>> 
>> This is perhaps because you have no knowledge of any of the other papers he
>> wrote in 1905, and you have no idea how to find out. 
>> 
>> Here’s a hint for one of them. Brownian motion, complete with calculations.
> 
> We are not talking about Brownian motion. We are talking about the 1905
> SR paper compared with my IRT paper.

Don’t cherry pick. Einstein wrote many papers on relativity, and he showed
many calculations. You’ve shown no calculations. None. 

> 
>> 
>> 
>>> In any case, his SR paper is parallel to my IRT paper--both contain no
>>> calculation. Also your opinion is not important--you carry no weight in
>>> the physics community. 
>> 
>> There is nobody that carries any weight with you. 
> 
> I value Tom Roberts’ posts. He doesn’t make blanket statements like you.
>> 
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Pretend what? I just published a new theory of relativity...no pretend
>>>>>>> there. I didn’t demand that you accept that I am a physicist. I am not, I
>>>>>>> am  Chemical Engineer.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> I invented a new theory of the universe, a real physicist would try to
>>>>>>>>> understand my theory ask me relevant questions. 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Don’t indulge your fantasies. A real physicist would ask you for your
>>>>>>>> calculations. Or, not seeing any calculations, would just ignore you
>>>>>>>> completely. Notice that the latter is what’s happened.  
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> So I am not a real physicist. So what? Does that mean that I can’t have a
>>>>>>> new theory of relativity? I don’t think so.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> But you don’t. Your “theory” lacks calculations.
>>>>> 
>>>>> So? 
>>>> 
>>>> So, physicists won’t regard it as a theory until you fix that. 
>>> 
>>> You are not a physicist--you are a woodworker.
>> 
>> That’s right. And you’ve gotten zero attention from physicists either. For
>> the reason mentioned. 
> 
> Perhaps they are too embarrassed to aka many comments.
> 

Oh, get real, Ken. Invent as many fantasies as you need to protect yourself
from the truth. 



-- 
Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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