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Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ?

Started byCENTRINO <none@nonelandia.com>
First post2018-07-05 12:25 +0100
Last post2018-07-13 13:57 -0700
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  Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? CENTRINO <none@nonelandia.com> - 2018-07-05 12:25 +0100
    Re:Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? Libor Striz <poutnik4REMOVEnntp@CAPITALSgmail.com> - 2018-07-05 13:47 +0200
      Re:Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? Oren Woodcock <uw@osiweoq.lp> - 2018-07-07 13:01 +0000
        Re:Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? Libor Striz <poutnik4REMOVEnntp@CAPITALSgmail.com> - 2018-07-07 15:46 +0200
          Re:Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? Oren Woodcock <uw@osiweoq.lp> - 2018-07-07 15:24 +0000
            Re:Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? Libor Striz <poutnik4REMOVEnntp@CAPITALSgmail.com> - 2018-07-10 07:57 +0200
              Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-07-09 23:41 -0700
                Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-10 10:53 +0000
                  Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-07-10 05:22 -0700
              Re:Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? Galin
 Itnik
 Uskanov <van@vovwuk.ac> - 2018-07-10 11:41 +0000
                Re:Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? Libor Striz <poutnik4REMOVEnntp@CAPITALSgmail.com> - 2018-07-10 14:47 +0200
                  Re:Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? Juan Winfrey <ho@ehwhddlr.do> - 2018-07-10 17:38 +0000
                    Re:Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? Libor Striz <poutnik4REMOVEnntp@CAPITALSgmail.com> - 2018-07-10 20:28 +0200
                      Re:Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? Juan Winfrey <ho@ehwhddlr.do> - 2018-07-10 18:57 +0000
              Re:Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? Ování Bodrého <urh@nwroen.ol> - 2018-07-10 20:04 +0000
              Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2018-07-10 15:57 -0700
                Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2018-07-10 16:12 -0700
                  Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2018-07-10 16:20 -0700
                    Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2018-07-10 16:51 -0700
                      Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2018-07-10 17:37 -0700
                        Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2018-07-11 11:00 -0700
                          Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2018-07-13 11:18 -0700
    Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? Dirk Van de moortel <dirkvandemoortel@notmail.com> - 2018-07-05 14:06 +0200
    Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-07-05 07:22 -0700
      Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-07-05 07:35 -0700
        Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-07-05 08:05 -0700
          Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-07-05 08:10 -0700
          Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-07-05 10:13 -0700
            Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? Oren Woodcock <uw@osiweoq.lp> - 2018-07-05 21:26 +0000
              Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-07-05 14:32 -0700
                Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? Oren Woodcock <uw@osiweoq.lp> - 2018-07-05 21:38 +0000
            Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-07-07 07:41 -0700
              Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-07 15:48 +0000
                Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-07-07 09:48 -0700
              Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-07-07 08:56 -0700
                Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? Galin
 Itnik
 Uskanov <van@vovwuk.ac> - 2018-07-09 14:09 +0000
                  Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-07-09 12:03 -0700
          Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-05 18:17 +0000
            Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-07-07 07:23 -0700
              Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-07 15:48 +0000
      Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? Volney <volney@volney.invalid> - 2018-07-05 11:09 -0400
      Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-07-05 10:12 -0700
        Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-07-07 07:38 -0700
          Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-07-07 09:00 -0700
      Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-07-05 12:49 -0700
        Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? Oren Woodcock <uw@osiweoq.lp> - 2018-07-05 21:44 +0000
          Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-07-05 15:21 -0700
            Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? Oren Woodcock <uw@osiweoq.lp> - 2018-07-05 22:55 +0000
              Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-07-05 20:58 -0700
        Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-07-07 14:26 +0200
          Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-07-07 09:18 -0700
            Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? Oren Woodcock <uw@osiweoq.lp> - 2018-07-07 17:04 +0000
              Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-07-07 10:11 -0700
                Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? Galin
 Itnik Uskanov <van@vovwuk.ac> - 2018-07-09 13:27 +0000
                  Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-07-09 12:01 -0700
                    Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? Juan Winfrey <ho@ehwhddlr.do> - 2018-07-10 17:40 +0000
                      Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-07-10 13:20 -0700
                        Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? Ování Bodrého <urh@nwroen.ol> - 2018-07-10 21:08 +0000
                          Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-07-10 14:25 -0700
                            Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? Ování Bodrého <urh@nwroen.ol> - 2018-07-11 11:09 +0000
                          Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-07-10 15:22 -0700
                            Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? Ování Bodrého <urh@nwroen.ol> - 2018-07-11 11:07 +0000
                              Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-07-11 16:55 -0700
                                Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-07-11 18:42 -0700
                                  Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? Olin Hayton <toa@nahslao.nh> - 2018-07-12 11:19 +0000
                                Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? Olin Hayton <toa@nahslao.nh> - 2018-07-12 10:54 +0000
            Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-07-07 19:19 +0200
              Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-07-07 21:57 -0700
                Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-07-08 12:56 +0200
                  Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-07-08 09:45 -0700
                Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-07-08 18:46 +0200
                  Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? Paparios <mrios@ing.puc.cl> - 2018-07-08 11:01 -0700
                    Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-07-09 05:00 +0200
                      Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? Paparios <mrios@ing.puc.cl> - 2018-07-09 07:03 -0700
                        Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? Galin
 Itnik
 Uskanov <van@vovwuk.ac> - 2018-07-09 14:05 +0000
                        Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-07-09 16:32 +0200
                  Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-07-08 13:25 -0700
                    Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-07-09 06:04 +0200
                    Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-07-09 04:39 -0700
                      Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-07-09 21:21 +0200
        Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-07-07 07:11 -0700
          Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-07 15:35 +0000
          Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-07-07 09:36 -0700
            Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? Galin
 Itnik
 Uskanov <van@vovwuk.ac> - 2018-07-09 14:55 +0000
              Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-07-09 12:27 -0700
                Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? Juan Winfrey <ho@ehwhddlr.do> - 2018-07-10 17:36 +0000
                  Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-07-10 13:18 -0700
                    Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? Ování Bodrého <urh@nwroen.ol> - 2018-07-10 21:06 +0000
                      Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-07-10 15:21 -0700
                        Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2018-07-10 22:17 -0700
                          Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? Ování Bodrého <urh@nwroen.ol> - 2018-07-11 10:59 +0000
                          Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-07-11 16:54 -0700
                            Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2018-07-11 17:39 -0700
                              Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? Olin Hayton <toa@nahslao.nh> - 2018-07-12 11:04 +0000
                                Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-07-12 10:59 -0700
                              Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-07-12 10:53 -0700
                                Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2018-07-12 17:21 -0700
                                  Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-07-12 19:48 -0700
                                  Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-07-13 11:37 -0700
                                Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? nobody@nowhere.com - 2018-07-12 21:25 -0400
                                  Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-07-13 11:42 -0700
                            Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? Olin Hayton <toa@nahslao.nh> - 2018-07-12 10:55 +0000
                              Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-07-12 10:58 -0700
                                Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2018-07-12 17:25 -0700
                                  Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-07-12 21:11 -0700
                                  Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-07-13 11:39 -0700
                                    Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? Olin Hayton <toa@nahslao.nh> - 2018-07-13 23:16 +0000
                                      Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-07-13 20:23 -0700
                                        Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? Olin Hayton <toa@nahslao.nh> - 2018-07-14 14:50 +0000
                                          Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-07-14 22:14 -0700
    Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-07-05 07:53 -0700
      Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-07-05 08:05 -0700
        Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-07-05 11:28 -0700
          Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-07-05 14:48 -0700
    Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-07-05 10:08 -0700
      Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? Dirk Van de moortel <dirkvandemoortel@notmail.com> - 2018-07-06 00:08 +0200
      Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? HGW <HW@home.net> - 2018-07-07 09:24 +1000
        Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-07-06 16:48 -0700
          Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? Oren Woodcock <uw@osiweoq.lp> - 2018-07-07 12:43 +0000
            Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-07-07 09:23 -0700
              Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? Oren Woodcock <uw@osiweoq.lp> - 2018-07-07 17:00 +0000
                Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-07-07 10:13 -0700
                  Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? Oren Woodcock <uw@osiweoq.lp> - 2018-07-07 18:24 +0000
          Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? HGW <HW@home.net> - 2018-07-09 09:01 +1000
        Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2018-07-07 21:09 +0200
    Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-05 18:17 +0000
      Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-07-05 11:35 -0700
        Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-05 18:48 +0000
    Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-07-05 12:04 -0700
      Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-07-05 12:58 -0700
        Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-07-05 13:51 -0700
          Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-06 10:57 +0000
            Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-07-06 04:45 -0700
              Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-06 20:41 +0000
                Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-07-06 13:59 -0700
                  Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-07 00:51 +0000
                    Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-07-06 22:25 -0700
                      Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-07 09:30 +0000
                        Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-07-07 03:31 -0700
    Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2018-07-05 21:54 -0700
      Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-07-05 23:53 -0700
    Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-07-07 12:33 +0200
      Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-07-07 05:36 -0700
        Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-07 15:35 +0000
          Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-07-07 09:40 -0700
            Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-07-07 09:52 -0700
            Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-07 19:57 +0000
              Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-07-07 14:35 -0700
                Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-07-07 14:47 -0700
                Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-07 23:42 +0000
                Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-07-07 21:59 -0700
                  Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-07-07 22:15 -0700
                  Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-07-07 22:26 -0700
                    Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-07-07 23:19 -0700
                      Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-07-08 14:39 -0700
                        Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-07-08 23:31 -0700
                          Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-07-08 23:46 -0700
                          Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-07-09 14:36 -0700
                            Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-07-09 14:46 -0700
                              Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? Libor Striz <poutnik4REMOVEnntp@CAPITALSgmail.com> - 2018-07-10 05:42 +0200
                              Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-07-09 21:43 -0700
                                Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-07-09 22:12 -0700
                                Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-10 10:53 +0000
                                  Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-07-10 10:49 -0700
                                    Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? Juan Winfrey <ho@ehwhddlr.do> - 2018-07-10 17:58 +0000
                                      Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-07-10 11:28 -0700
                  Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-07-08 05:51 -0700
                    Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? Libor Striz <poutnik4REMOVEnntp@CAPITALSgmail.com> - 2018-07-08 15:55 +0200
                      Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-07-08 13:16 -0700
                    Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-08 15:19 +0000
                      Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-07-08 13:14 -0700
                        Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-07-08 13:40 -0700
                        Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-09 03:07 +0000
                          Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-07-08 23:00 -0700
                            Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-09 10:41 +0000
                              Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-07-09 04:02 -0700
                                Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-09 11:20 +0000
                                  Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-07-09 04:38 -0700
                              Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? Volney <volney@volney.invalid> - 2018-07-09 07:07 -0400
                                Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? Python <python@python.invalid> - 2018-07-09 13:14 +0200
                                  Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-07-09 04:19 -0700
                                Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-07-09 04:18 -0700
                                  Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? Volney <volney@volney.invalid> - 2018-07-09 08:49 -0400
                                    Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-07-09 05:56 -0700
                                      Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? Volney <volney@volney.invalid> - 2018-07-09 09:32 -0400
                                        Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-07-09 07:01 -0700
                                          Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? Volney <volney@volney.invalid> - 2018-07-09 11:45 -0400
                                            Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-07-09 09:18 -0700
                                    Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2018-07-09 08:45 -0700
                                      Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2018-07-09 14:09 -0700
                                Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-09 11:20 +0000
                    Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-07-08 09:48 -0700
                  Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-07-09 04:59 -0700
                    Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-09 13:15 +0000
                      Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-07-09 06:19 -0700
                      Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-07-09 07:19 -0700
                        Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-10 03:46 +0000
                          Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-07-10 08:58 -0700
                            Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-07-10 09:17 -0700
                            Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-10 17:55 +0000
                            Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-07-10 13:15 -0700
                              Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-07-10 21:43 -0700
                      Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? Libor Striz <poutnik4REMOVEnntp@CAPITALSgmail.com> - 2018-07-09 18:38 +0200
                    Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-07-09 12:00 -0700
              Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-07-07 14:45 -0700
                Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-07-07 22:45 +0000
                Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-07 23:42 +0000
                  Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-07-09 04:50 -0700
                Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? HGW <HW@home.net> - 2018-07-09 09:07 +1000
    Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? xip1415926@gmail.com - 2018-07-07 07:31 -0700
      Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-07-07 18:21 +0200
        Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? xip1415926@gmail.com - 2018-07-07 11:07 -0700
          Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-07-08 12:51 +0200
            Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? xip1415926@gmail.com - 2018-07-08 05:04 -0700
              Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-07-08 17:33 +0200
                Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? xip1415926@gmail.com - 2018-07-08 13:45 -0700
                  Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-07-09 06:36 +0200
                    Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? xip1415926@gmail.com - 2018-07-09 05:35 -0700
                      Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-07-09 15:32 +0200
                        Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? Galin Itnik Uskanov <van@vovwuk.ac> - 2018-07-09 13:38 +0000
                          Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-07-09 16:24 +0200
                            Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? Galin
 Itnik
 Uskanov <van@vovwuk.ac> - 2018-07-09 14:38 +0000
                Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? xip1415926@gmail.com - 2018-07-08 14:42 -0700
                Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? xip1415926@gmail.com - 2018-07-08 14:55 -0700
                  Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-07-09 15:20 +0200
                    Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? Galin Itnik Uskanov <van@vovwuk.ac> - 2018-07-09 13:33 +0000
                Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? xip1415926@gmail.com - 2018-07-08 19:05 -0700
                Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? HGW <HW@home.net> - 2018-07-10 09:32 +1000
                  Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-10 03:46 +0000
    Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? consequently7990662@gmail.com - 2018-07-09 15:00 -0700
    Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? mikedwy@aol.com - 2018-07-09 22:18 -0700
      Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? Libor Striz <poutnik4REMOVEnntp@CAPITALSgmail.com> - 2018-07-10 07:40 +0200
        Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? Galin
 Itnik
 Uskanov <van@vovwuk.ac> - 2018-07-10 12:12 +0000
          Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? Libor Striz <poutnik4REMOVEnntp@CAPITALSgmail.com> - 2018-07-10 14:47 +0200
            Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? Juan Winfrey <ho@ehwhddlr.do> - 2018-07-10 17:23 +0000
      Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-10 10:53 +0000
      Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? Juan Winfrey <ho@ehwhddlr.do> - 2018-07-10 17:44 +0000
    Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? numbernumber1964@gmail.com - 2018-07-10 13:20 -0700
    Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? numbernumber1964@gmail.com - 2018-07-10 14:55 -0700
    Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? numbernumber1964@gmail.com - 2018-07-10 18:10 -0700
    Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? numbernumber1964@gmail.com - 2018-07-11 12:21 -0700
    Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? consequently7990662@gmail.com - 2018-07-11 15:45 -0700
    Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? numbernumber1964@gmail.com - 2018-07-13 13:54 -0700
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#464174

From"Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com>
Date2018-07-11 11:00 -0700
Message-ID<5fbfd278-fc8b-4e7f-9f7f-3436b7ba3e7c@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#464138
On Tuesday, July 10, 2018 at 5:37:15 PM UTC-7, Ross A. Finlayson wrote:
> On Tuesday, July 10, 2018 at 4:51:56 PM UTC-7, Ross A. Finlayson wrote:
> > On Tuesday, July 10, 2018 at 4:20:16 PM UTC-7, Ross A. Finlayson wrote:
> > > On Tuesday, July 10, 2018 at 4:12:23 PM UTC-7, Ross A. Finlayson wrote:
> > > > On Tuesday, July 10, 2018 at 3:57:45 PM UTC-7, Ross A. Finlayson wrote:
> > > > > On Monday, July 9, 2018 at 10:58:01 PM UTC-7, Libor Striz wrote:
> > > > > > Oren Woodcock <uw@osiweoq.lp> Wrote in message:
> > > > > > > the nymshifting turd Libor Striz wrote:
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > >> Oren Woodcock <uw@osiweoq.lp> Wrote in message:
> > > > > > >>> Libor Striz wrote:
> > > > > > >>> 
> > > > > > >>>> CENTRINO <none@nonelandia.com> Wrote in message:
> > > > > > >>>>> Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ?
> > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > >>>> Because he brought a challenge to their mind, revealing they may
> > > > > > >>>>  not  be as clever as they think about themselves.
> > > > > > >>> 
> > > > > > >>> This coming from a turd, not knowing what a Doppler shift is, makes the
> > > > > > >>> cause of Einstein looks worse than bad.
> > > > > > >>> 
> > > > > > >> Do not bother, the dedicated nymshifting troll of the group.
> > > > > > >> Nobody takes you seriously.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Thinking at it, it's strongly plausible that not even Einstein understood 
> > > > > > > what a Doppler shift stands for. At that time frequencies and the 
> > > > > > > dynamics, were not that obvious as those are today. I believe there is no 
> > > > > > > Doppler shift mentioned in his papers anywhere. Just a guess, but 
> > > > > > > qualified, based on the above already noted.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > People do not usually mention obvious things.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > As Doppler described the phenomena in 1842, you idea is not backed
> > > > > >  by reason.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Relativistic Doppler shift as combination of classic Doppler shift
> > > > > >  and time dilation is routinely observed for high speed objects
> > > > > >  interacting with photons.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > -- 
> > > > > > Libor Striz aka Poutnik ( a pilgrim/wanderer/wayfarer)
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > "Humour is the only effective weapon against stupidity."
> > > > > > Miloš Forman
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > Thanks for pointing this out, about the 
> > > > > relativistic Doppler, here vis-a-vis the 
> > > > > frame-dragging or Thirring-Lense.
> > > > > 
> > > > > This problem of time, or rather the relative 
> > > > > constancy of clocks besides reading them 
> > > > > from a distance and under acceleration, 
> > > > > there's again this notion that these days 
> > > > > there's that "SR is local" ("space-time is flat"), 
> > > > > and about the continuity of the manifold of 
> > > > > space-time (i.e., that the path integral is yet 
> > > > > one world-line, and there are no discontinuities), 
> > > > > there's an idea (and besides "there's no anti-photon" 
> > > > > or "the dual event of the wave-form collapse as 
> > > > > about the tachyonic flux of the pilot wave") that 
> > > > > light is a constant transmission.
> > > > > 
> > > > > There's here both the geometric and wave optics 
> > > > > of light, here for example as about the usual 
> > > > > cosmological experiment of the quasar and only 
> > > > > the geometric optic (and besides stuff like 
> > > > > Fresnel to complement gravitational lensing 
> > > > > with the lensing of large bodies), here I think 
> > > > > it's very interesting the corresponding note of 
> > > > > the "relativistic Doppler" while still maintaining 
> > > > > as above the continuity of the space-time manifold.
> > > > > 
> > > > > (
> > > > >   http://adsabs.harvard.edu/full/1981AcC....10...53H
> > > > > )
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > From "Relativistic Model for Spacetime", Heller '81:
> > > > 
> > > > "A Lorentz metric exists on M if and only if 
> > > > M has a smooth field of line elements."
> > > > 
> > > > "Since a non-zero vector field on M 
> > > > determines a direction field on M, 
> > > > we have the following result: 
> > > > M carries at least one Lorentz metric, 
> > > > and therefore an infinite number of 
> > > > Lorentz metrics, if and only if 
> > > > a non-vanishing direction field exists on M."
> > > > 
> > > > (Gradient?)
> > > > 
> > > > Then this is following with saying:
> > > > there are two paths of time at an instant/event, 
> > > > but only one past.  And, there's only one future.
> > > > 
> > > > G-d has dice?  Einstein/SR proves G-d has dice?
> > > > 
> > > > That's quite an excellent paper, survey, and summary.
> > > 
> > > The thing about "action at a distance" is 
> > > that's its past.  Its past is already told.  
> > > This with this "Mach's principle" that inertia 
> > > (for kinetic instead of thermodynamic as 
> > > "fundamental") is a property of not just 
> > > objects but their context altogether, 
> > > SR being local and stochastic everywhere 
> > > seems to fit with a model of Dirac sea 
> > > and some LeSage-ian fall gravity with 
> > > classical, _and_ relativistic, conclusions 
> > > falling out of "the" model.
> > > 
> > > This is, classical, relativistic, and absolute again.
> > 
> > 
> > "Cantor proves the line is drawn, 
> > and Einstein proves G-d has dice."
> > 
> > "No time like the present."
> > 
> > "What time is now."
> > 
> > It seems like the wave-function and 
> > the measurement, sampling, and observer 
> > effects are collapsing the wave-function.
> > 
> > The particle isn't just its point, 
> > it is its state.
> > 
> > This isn't "spooky action at a distance", 
> > rather "this".
> > 
> > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wave_function_collapse
> > 
> > Light:  geometric _and_ "wave" optics.
> > 
> > So, nature's stochastic, and it will be, now that's the past.
> > 
> > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ray_(quantum_theory)
> 
> "Universal time":
>   https://arxiv.org/pdf/1302.7291.pdf
> 
> versus "two times":
>   https://www.researchgate.net/publication/225118163_The_Arrow_of_Time_From_Universe_Time-Asymmetry_to_Local_Irreversible_Processes
> 
> versus "local time":
>   https://phys.org/news/2012-11-quantum-arrow-babar-asymmetry.html

universal time
t̶w̶o̶ ̶t̶i̶m̶e̶s̶
local time

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#464278

From"Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com>
Date2018-07-13 11:18 -0700
Message-ID<268e20f7-5fad-4222-b3ef-3e6cab3c3a61@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#464174
On Wednesday, July 11, 2018 at 11:00:51 AM UTC-7, Ross A. Finlayson wrote:
> On Tuesday, July 10, 2018 at 5:37:15 PM UTC-7, Ross A. Finlayson wrote:
> > On Tuesday, July 10, 2018 at 4:51:56 PM UTC-7, Ross A. Finlayson wrote:
> > > On Tuesday, July 10, 2018 at 4:20:16 PM UTC-7, Ross A. Finlayson wrote:
> > > > On Tuesday, July 10, 2018 at 4:12:23 PM UTC-7, Ross A. Finlayson wrote:
> > > > > On Tuesday, July 10, 2018 at 3:57:45 PM UTC-7, Ross A. Finlayson wrote:
> > > > > > On Monday, July 9, 2018 at 10:58:01 PM UTC-7, Libor Striz wrote:
> > > > > > > Oren Woodcock <uw@osiweoq.lp> Wrote in message:
> > > > > > > > the nymshifting turd Libor Striz wrote:
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > >> Oren Woodcock <uw@osiweoq.lp> Wrote in message:
> > > > > > > >>> Libor Striz wrote:
> > > > > > > >>> 
> > > > > > > >>>> CENTRINO <none@nonelandia.com> Wrote in message:
> > > > > > > >>>>> Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ?
> > > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > > >>>> Because he brought a challenge to their mind, revealing they may
> > > > > > > >>>>  not  be as clever as they think about themselves.
> > > > > > > >>> 
> > > > > > > >>> This coming from a turd, not knowing what a Doppler shift is, makes the
> > > > > > > >>> cause of Einstein looks worse than bad.
> > > > > > > >>> 
> > > > > > > >> Do not bother, the dedicated nymshifting troll of the group.
> > > > > > > >> Nobody takes you seriously.
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > Thinking at it, it's strongly plausible that not even Einstein understood 
> > > > > > > > what a Doppler shift stands for. At that time frequencies and the 
> > > > > > > > dynamics, were not that obvious as those are today. I believe there is no 
> > > > > > > > Doppler shift mentioned in his papers anywhere. Just a guess, but 
> > > > > > > > qualified, based on the above already noted.
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > People do not usually mention obvious things.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > As Doppler described the phenomena in 1842, you idea is not backed
> > > > > > >  by reason.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Relativistic Doppler shift as combination of classic Doppler shift
> > > > > > >  and time dilation is routinely observed for high speed objects
> > > > > > >  interacting with photons.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > -- 
> > > > > > > Libor Striz aka Poutnik ( a pilgrim/wanderer/wayfarer)
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > "Humour is the only effective weapon against stupidity."
> > > > > > > Miloš Forman
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Thanks for pointing this out, about the 
> > > > > > relativistic Doppler, here vis-a-vis the 
> > > > > > frame-dragging or Thirring-Lense.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > This problem of time, or rather the relative 
> > > > > > constancy of clocks besides reading them 
> > > > > > from a distance and under acceleration, 
> > > > > > there's again this notion that these days 
> > > > > > there's that "SR is local" ("space-time is flat"), 
> > > > > > and about the continuity of the manifold of 
> > > > > > space-time (i.e., that the path integral is yet 
> > > > > > one world-line, and there are no discontinuities), 
> > > > > > there's an idea (and besides "there's no anti-photon" 
> > > > > > or "the dual event of the wave-form collapse as 
> > > > > > about the tachyonic flux of the pilot wave") that 
> > > > > > light is a constant transmission.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > There's here both the geometric and wave optics 
> > > > > > of light, here for example as about the usual 
> > > > > > cosmological experiment of the quasar and only 
> > > > > > the geometric optic (and besides stuff like 
> > > > > > Fresnel to complement gravitational lensing 
> > > > > > with the lensing of large bodies), here I think 
> > > > > > it's very interesting the corresponding note of 
> > > > > > the "relativistic Doppler" while still maintaining 
> > > > > > as above the continuity of the space-time manifold.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > (
> > > > > >   http://adsabs.harvard.edu/full/1981AcC....10...53H
> > > > > > )
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > From "Relativistic Model for Spacetime", Heller '81:
> > > > > 
> > > > > "A Lorentz metric exists on M if and only if 
> > > > > M has a smooth field of line elements."
> > > > > 
> > > > > "Since a non-zero vector field on M 
> > > > > determines a direction field on M, 
> > > > > we have the following result: 
> > > > > M carries at least one Lorentz metric, 
> > > > > and therefore an infinite number of 
> > > > > Lorentz metrics, if and only if 
> > > > > a non-vanishing direction field exists on M."
> > > > > 
> > > > > (Gradient?)
> > > > > 
> > > > > Then this is following with saying:
> > > > > there are two paths of time at an instant/event, 
> > > > > but only one past.  And, there's only one future.
> > > > > 
> > > > > G-d has dice?  Einstein/SR proves G-d has dice?
> > > > > 
> > > > > That's quite an excellent paper, survey, and summary.
> > > > 
> > > > The thing about "action at a distance" is 
> > > > that's its past.  Its past is already told.  
> > > > This with this "Mach's principle" that inertia 
> > > > (for kinetic instead of thermodynamic as 
> > > > "fundamental") is a property of not just 
> > > > objects but their context altogether, 
> > > > SR being local and stochastic everywhere 
> > > > seems to fit with a model of Dirac sea 
> > > > and some LeSage-ian fall gravity with 
> > > > classical, _and_ relativistic, conclusions 
> > > > falling out of "the" model.
> > > > 
> > > > This is, classical, relativistic, and absolute again.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > "Cantor proves the line is drawn, 
> > > and Einstein proves G-d has dice."
> > > 
> > > "No time like the present."
> > > 
> > > "What time is now."
> > > 
> > > It seems like the wave-function and 
> > > the measurement, sampling, and observer 
> > > effects are collapsing the wave-function.
> > > 
> > > The particle isn't just its point, 
> > > it is its state.
> > > 
> > > This isn't "spooky action at a distance", 
> > > rather "this".
> > > 
> > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wave_function_collapse
> > > 
> > > Light:  geometric _and_ "wave" optics.
> > > 
> > > So, nature's stochastic, and it will be, now that's the past.
> > > 
> > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ray_(quantum_theory)
> > 
> > "Universal time":
> >   https://arxiv.org/pdf/1302.7291.pdf
> > 
> > versus "two times":
> >   https://www.researchgate.net/publication/225118163_The_Arrow_of_Time_From_Universe_Time-Asymmetry_to_Local_Irreversible_Processes
> > 
> > versus "local time":
> >   https://phys.org/news/2012-11-quantum-arrow-babar-asymmetry.html
> 
> universal time
> t̶w̶o̶ ̶t̶i̶m̶e̶s̶
> local time


G-d's so good at dice, 
He only had to roll them once, 
they're still rolling.

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#463481

FromDirk Van de moortel <dirkvandemoortel@notmail.com>
Date2018-07-05 14:06 +0200
Message-ID<phl1j7$18e5$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#463479
Op 05/07/2018 om 13:25 schreef CENTRINO:
> Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ?

In this group?
Because it's a place where there's a sufficient number
of people around to argue with, and thus keep them company.
A remedy against solitude.

Dirk Vdm

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#463486

Fromkenseto <setoken@att.net>
Date2018-07-05 07:22 -0700
Message-ID<01b11820-d187-48b7-ae4d-95ded61f8f66@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#463479
On Thursday, July 5, 2018 at 7:25:37 AM UTC-4, CENTRINO wrote:
> Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ?

Because Einstein’s SR copied the LET math with the following nonsense assertions added:
1. The speed of light is a universal constant when the clock second use to measure speed is not a universal constant.....the passage of a clock second in A’s frame is equal to 1/gamma seconds in B’s frame or the passage of gamma second in A’s frame is equal to 1 second in B’s frame.

2. Length contraction: SR says that the length of a meter stick is contracted by a factor of 1/gamma. This assertion is false. It is not possible to measure the length of o a moving meter stick and the meter stick will come back the same length after a journey. This means that it is not materially contracted during relative motion. The proper interpretation of the length contraction equation is that the Light-path -length (LPL) of a moving meter stick is foreshortened by a factor of 1/gamma. This prediction is based on the assumption that the LPL of the observer’s meter stick is its material length.

3. Time dilation: SR assumes that a clock second is a universal interval of time.....that is the passage of a clock second in A’s frame is corresponded to the passage of a clock second in B’s frame. This assertion is wrong and it contradicts the SR math where it says that the passage of a clock second in observer A’s frame is corresponded to the passage of 1/gamma seconds in B’s frame.

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#463489

FromGary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com>
Date2018-07-05 07:35 -0700
Message-ID<67434539-82c2-4961-8194-c1ce464d9943@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#463486
On Thursday, July 5, 2018 at 8:22:56 AM UTC-6, kenseto wrote:
>
> On Thursday, July 5, 2018 at 7:25:37 AM UTC-4, CENTRINO wrote:
> >
> > Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ?
> 
> Because Einstein’s SR copied the LET math with the following nonsense
> assertions added:

See?  Seto is another Einstein hater, and he is as stupid as all the
others.  He pretends to have a "theory" but it is pointless and absurd.

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#463494

Fromkenseto <setoken@att.net>
Date2018-07-05 08:05 -0700
Message-ID<4e296175-cabe-47a4-9296-afb2a4fb91d1@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#463489
On Thursday, July 5, 2018 at 10:35:24 AM UTC-4, Gary Harnagel wrote:
> On Thursday, July 5, 2018 at 8:22:56 AM UTC-6, kenseto wrote:
> >
> > On Thursday, July 5, 2018 at 7:25:37 AM UTC-4, CENTRINO wrote:
> > >
> > > Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ?
> > 
> > Because Einstein’s SR copied the LET math with the following nonsense
> > assertions added:
> 
> See?  Seto is another Einstein hater, and he is as stupid as all the
> others.  He pretends to have a "theory" but it is pointless and absurd.

I don’t hate Einstein......I pointed out his mistakes.

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#463498

FromGary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com>
Date2018-07-05 08:10 -0700
Message-ID<ef0c7592-0e4c-440d-b15d-69a499e8963d@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#463494
On Thursday, July 5, 2018 at 9:05:40 AM UTC-6, kenseto wrote:
>
> On Thursday, July 5, 2018 at 10:35:24 AM UTC-4, Gary Harnagel wrote:
> >
> > On Thursday, July 5, 2018 at 8:22:56 AM UTC-6, kenseto wrote:
> > >
> > > On Thursday, July 5, 2018 at 7:25:37 AM UTC-4, CENTRINO wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ?
> > > 
> > > Because Einstein’s SR copied the LET math with the following nonsense
> > > assertions added:
> > 
> > See?  Seto is another Einstein hater, and he is as stupid as all the
> > others.  He pretends to have a "theory" but it is pointless and absurd.
> 
> I don’t hate Einstein

Liar.

> ......I pointed out his mistakes.

You're incompetent so you can't even realize that what you pointed out
weren't mistakes.  Your diatribes are pointless and absurd.

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#463517

FromJanPB <filmart@gmail.com>
Date2018-07-05 10:13 -0700
Message-ID<c34df54c-4218-4dc8-8824-d1d796ecc09d@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#463494
On Thursday, July 5, 2018 at 8:05:40 AM UTC-7, kenseto wrote:
> On Thursday, July 5, 2018 at 10:35:24 AM UTC-4, Gary Harnagel wrote:
> > On Thursday, July 5, 2018 at 8:22:56 AM UTC-6, kenseto wrote:
> > >
> > > On Thursday, July 5, 2018 at 7:25:37 AM UTC-4, CENTRINO wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ?
> > > 
> > > Because Einstein’s SR copied the LET math with the following nonsense
> > > assertions added:
> > 
> > See?  Seto is another Einstein hater, and he is as stupid as all the
> > others.  He pretends to have a "theory" but it is pointless and absurd.
> 
> I don’t hate Einstein......I pointed out his mistakes.

No, you did not. The mistakes are all yours. In fact, what you post is most of the time
in the "not EVEN wrong" category, so there is not much to discuss with you. You are
wasting your life away on illusions, fata-morganas, and chimeras of the mind.

--
Jan

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#463554

FromOren Woodcock <uw@osiweoq.lp>
Date2018-07-05 21:26 +0000
Message-ID<phm2er$1490$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#463517
JanPB wrote:

>> I don’t hate Einstein......I pointed out his mistakes.
> 
> No, you did not. The mistakes are all yours. In fact, what you post is
> most of the time in the "not EVEN wrong" category, so there is not much
> to discuss with you. You are wasting your life away on illusions,
> fata-morganas, and chimeras of the mind.

The biggest mistakes Einstein did is the introduction of tensor in place 
of using pure curvilinear coordinate system, as frequently done in IRT and 
other widespread mainstream theories. A tensor will never provide a 
mechanism, as demanded by the Scientific Method.

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#463556

FromJanPB <filmart@gmail.com>
Date2018-07-05 14:32 -0700
Message-ID<016a4027-6686-4c14-97c8-5932f5f1e871@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#463554
On Thursday, July 5, 2018 at 2:26:56 PM UTC-7, Oren Woodcock wrote:
> JanPB wrote:
> 
> >> I don’t hate Einstein......I pointed out his mistakes.
> > 
> > No, you did not. The mistakes are all yours. In fact, what you post is
> > most of the time in the "not EVEN wrong" category, so there is not much
> > to discuss with you. You are wasting your life away on illusions,
> > fata-morganas, and chimeras of the mind.
> 
> The biggest mistakes Einstein did is the introduction of tensor in place 
> of using pure curvilinear coordinate system,

Word salad. Meaningless.

--
Jan

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#463557

FromOren Woodcock <uw@osiweoq.lp>
Date2018-07-05 21:38 +0000
Message-ID<phm33r$1490$3@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#463556
JanPB wrote:

> On Thursday, July 5, 2018 at 2:26:56 PM UTC-7, Oren Woodcock wrote:
>> JanPB wrote:
>> 
>> >> I don’t hate Einstein......I pointed out his mistakes.
>> > 
>> > No, you did not. The mistakes are all yours. In fact, what you post
>> > is most of the time in the "not EVEN wrong" category, so there is not
>> > much to discuss with you. You are wasting your life away on
>> > illusions, fata-morganas, and chimeras of the mind.
>> 
>> The biggest mistakes Einstein did is the introduction of tensor in
>> place of using pure curvilinear coordinate system,
> 
> Word salad. Meaningless.

To the unaware, likely yes. But you have to agree with yourself, is your 
spacetime bendable along a curvature or not? If yes, then the most 
appropriate is to use curvilinear coordinate systems. Learn some 
mathematics, young man. (ie 2nd order partial differential equations)

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#463700

Fromkenseto <setoken@att.net>
Date2018-07-07 07:41 -0700
Message-ID<0b4ed1d1-f75e-4ad2-8367-2bb522a4a8d4@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#463517
On Thursday, July 5, 2018 at 1:13:42 PM UTC-4, JanPB wrote:
> On Thursday, July 5, 2018 at 8:05:40 AM UTC-7, kenseto wrote:
> > On Thursday, July 5, 2018 at 10:35:24 AM UTC-4, Gary Harnagel wrote:
> > > On Thursday, July 5, 2018 at 8:22:56 AM UTC-6, kenseto wrote:
> > > >
> > > > On Thursday, July 5, 2018 at 7:25:37 AM UTC-4, CENTRINO wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ?
> > > > 
> > > > Because Einstein’s SR copied the LET math with the following nonsense
> > > > assertions added:
> > > 
> > > See?  Seto is another Einstein hater, and he is as stupid as all the
> > > others.  He pretends to have a "theory" but it is pointless and absurd.
> > 
> > I don’t hate Einstein......I pointed out his mistakes.
> 
> No, you did not. The mistakes are all yours. In fact, what you post is most of the time
> in the "not EVEN wrong" category, so there is not much to discuss with you. You are
> wasting your life away on illusions, fata-morganas, and chimeras of the mind.

ROTFLOL...this idiot don’t understand the original meaning of the phrase “not EVEN wrong means.

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#463707

FromOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date2018-07-07 15:48 +0000
Message-ID<phqnbh$btm$2@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#463700
kenseto <setoken@att.net> wrote:
> On Thursday, July 5, 2018 at 1:13:42 PM UTC-4, JanPB wrote:
>> On Thursday, July 5, 2018 at 8:05:40 AM UTC-7, kenseto wrote:
>>> On Thursday, July 5, 2018 at 10:35:24 AM UTC-4, Gary Harnagel wrote:
>>>> On Thursday, July 5, 2018 at 8:22:56 AM UTC-6, kenseto wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Thursday, July 5, 2018 at 7:25:37 AM UTC-4, CENTRINO wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Because Einstein’s SR copied the LET math with the following nonsense
>>>>> assertions added:
>>>> 
>>>> See?  Seto is another Einstein hater, and he is as stupid as all the
>>>> others.  He pretends to have a "theory" but it is pointless and absurd.
>>> 
>>> I don’t hate Einstein......I pointed out his mistakes.
>> 
>> No, you did not. The mistakes are all yours. In fact, what you post is most of the time
>> in the "not EVEN wrong" category, so there is not much to discuss with you. You are
>> wasting your life away on illusions, fata-morganas, and chimeras of the mind.
> 
> ROTFLOL...this idiot don’t understand the original meaning of the phrase
> “not EVEN wrong means.
> 

Oh Ken you certainly don’t know it. You don’t even know who coined the
phrase. Here’s a multiple choice question. One of them is the person who
coined the phrase:

Feynman
Smolin
Woit 
Pauli
Einstein

Which one is the correct answer, you chickenshit pretender?

-- 
Odd Bodkin — Maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#463719

Fromkenseto <setoken@att.net>
Date2018-07-07 09:48 -0700
Message-ID<48e56b84-f300-414c-b34b-f7a1882fc211@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#463707
On Saturday, July 7, 2018 at 11:48:04 AM UTC-4, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> kenseto <setoken@att.net> wrote:
> > On Thursday, July 5, 2018 at 1:13:42 PM UTC-4, JanPB wrote:
> >> On Thursday, July 5, 2018 at 8:05:40 AM UTC-7, kenseto wrote:
> >>> On Thursday, July 5, 2018 at 10:35:24 AM UTC-4, Gary Harnagel wrote:
> >>>> On Thursday, July 5, 2018 at 8:22:56 AM UTC-6, kenseto wrote:
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> On Thursday, July 5, 2018 at 7:25:37 AM UTC-4, CENTRINO wrote:
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ?
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> Because Einstein’s SR copied the LET math with the following nonsense
> >>>>> assertions added:
> >>>> 
> >>>> See?  Seto is another Einstein hater, and he is as stupid as all the
> >>>> others.  He pretends to have a "theory" but it is pointless and absurd.
> >>> 
> >>> I don’t hate Einstein......I pointed out his mistakes.
> >> 
> >> No, you did not. The mistakes are all yours. In fact, what you post is most of the time
> >> in the "not EVEN wrong" category, so there is not much to discuss with you. You are
> >> wasting your life away on illusions, fata-morganas, and chimeras of the mind.
> > 
> > ROTFLOL...this idiot don’t understand the original meaning of the phrase
> > “not EVEN wrong means.
> > 
> 
> Oh Ken you certainly don’t know it. You don’t even know who coined the
> phrase. Here’s a multiple choice question. One of them is the person who
> coined the phrase:
> 
> Feynman
> Smolin
> Woit 
> Pauli
> Einstein
> 
> Which one is the correct answer, you chickenshit pretender?

Pauli...so I guess that you are the chickenshit pretender.

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#463708

FromJanPB <filmart@gmail.com>
Date2018-07-07 08:56 -0700
Message-ID<124d0397-d843-475a-a4d8-f7afe93e648c@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#463700
On Saturday, July 7, 2018 at 7:41:38 AM UTC-7, kenseto wrote:
> On Thursday, July 5, 2018 at 1:13:42 PM UTC-4, JanPB wrote:
> > On Thursday, July 5, 2018 at 8:05:40 AM UTC-7, kenseto wrote:
> > > On Thursday, July 5, 2018 at 10:35:24 AM UTC-4, Gary Harnagel wrote:
> > > > On Thursday, July 5, 2018 at 8:22:56 AM UTC-6, kenseto wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > On Thursday, July 5, 2018 at 7:25:37 AM UTC-4, CENTRINO wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ?
> > > > > 
> > > > > Because Einstein’s SR copied the LET math with the following nonsense
> > > > > assertions added:
> > > > 
> > > > See?  Seto is another Einstein hater, and he is as stupid as all the
> > > > others.  He pretends to have a "theory" but it is pointless and absurd.
> > > 
> > > I don’t hate Einstein......I pointed out his mistakes.
> > 
> > No, you did not. The mistakes are all yours. In fact, what you post is most of the time
> > in the "not EVEN wrong" category, so there is not much to discuss with you. You are
> > wasting your life away on illusions, fata-morganas, and chimeras of the mind.
> 
> ROTFLOL...this idiot don’t understand the original meaning of the phrase “not EVEN wrong means.

Your posts are mostly in the NOT EVEN WRONG category (yes, I know what this
phrase means). You are wasting time on 100% nonsense you've yourself created.

--
Jan

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#463922

FromGalin Itnik Uskanov <van@vovwuk.ac>
Date2018-07-09 14:09 +0000
Message-ID<phvq9v$lbu$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#463708
JanPB wrote:

>> > No, you did not. The mistakes are all yours. In fact, what you post
>> > is most of the time in the "not EVEN wrong" category, so there is not
>> > much to discuss with you. You are wasting your life away on
>> > illusions,
>> > fata-morganas, and chimeras of the mind.
>> 
>> ROTFLOL...this idiot don’t understand the original meaning of the
>> phrase “not EVEN wrong means.
> 
> Your posts are mostly in the NOT EVEN WRONG category (yes, I know what
> this phrase means). You are wasting time on 100% nonsense you've
> yourself created.

Not even wrong is pejorative. An insult. Hence, the one using it, is 
insulting himself.

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#463954

FromJanPB <filmart@gmail.com>
Date2018-07-09 12:03 -0700
Message-ID<348bd1a2-57db-40cb-93a2-a72ad2b9b795@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#463922
On Monday, July 9, 2018 at 7:09:06 AM UTC-7, Galin Itnik Uskanov wrote:
> JanPB wrote:
> 
> >> > No, you did not. The mistakes are all yours. In fact, what you post
> >> > is most of the time in the "not EVEN wrong" category, so there is not
> >> > much to discuss with you. You are wasting your life away on
> >> > illusions,
> >> > fata-morganas, and chimeras of the mind.
> >> 
> >> ROTFLOL...this idiot don’t understand the original meaning of the
> >> phrase “not EVEN wrong means.
> > 
> > Your posts are mostly in the NOT EVEN WRONG category (yes, I know what
> > this phrase means). You are wasting time on 100% nonsense you've
> > yourself created.
> 
> Not even wrong is pejorative. An insult. Hence, the one using it, is 
> insulting himself.

Nice try but no cigar.

--
Jan

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#463531

FromOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date2018-07-05 18:17 +0000
Message-ID<phlnb2$h8m$2@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#463494
kenseto <setoken@att.net> wrote:
> On Thursday, July 5, 2018 at 10:35:24 AM UTC-4, Gary Harnagel wrote:
>> On Thursday, July 5, 2018 at 8:22:56 AM UTC-6, kenseto wrote:
>>> 
>>> On Thursday, July 5, 2018 at 7:25:37 AM UTC-4, CENTRINO wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ?
>>> 
>>> Because Einstein’s SR copied the LET math with the following nonsense
>>> assertions added:
>> 
>> See?  Seto is another Einstein hater, and he is as stupid as all the
>> others.  He pretends to have a "theory" but it is pointless and absurd.
> 
> I don’t hate Einstein......I pointed out his mistakes.
> 

And Newton’s too, you say. 
As well as the mistakes in all basic physics books!
Because you alone, uneducated in physics, understand physics. 

-- 
Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#463697

Fromkenseto <setoken@att.net>
Date2018-07-07 07:23 -0700
Message-ID<bee65e56-8626-42f8-adf4-5fe4b38ab789@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#463531
On Thursday, July 5, 2018 at 2:17:11 PM UTC-4, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> kenseto <setoken@att.net> wrote:
> > On Thursday, July 5, 2018 at 10:35:24 AM UTC-4, Gary Harnagel wrote:
> >> On Thursday, July 5, 2018 at 8:22:56 AM UTC-6, kenseto wrote:
> >>> 
> >>> On Thursday, July 5, 2018 at 7:25:37 AM UTC-4, CENTRINO wrote:
> >>>> 
> >>>> Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ?
> >>> 
> >>> Because Einstein’s SR copied the LET math with the following nonsense
> >>> assertions added:
> >> 
> >> See?  Seto is another Einstein hater, and he is as stupid as all the
> >> others.  He pretends to have a "theory" but it is pointless and absurd.
> > 
> > I don’t hate Einstein......I pointed out his mistakes.
> > 
> 
> And Newton’s too, you say. 
> As well as the mistakes in all basic physics books!
> Because you alone, uneducated in physics, understand physics. 

What is your problem? Current physics failed to come up with a viable theory of the cause of gravity. I was able to come up with such theory.  so what’s wrong with that?

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#463706

FromOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date2018-07-07 15:48 +0000
Message-ID<phqnbg$btm$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#463697
kenseto <setoken@att.net> wrote:
> On Thursday, July 5, 2018 at 2:17:11 PM UTC-4, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>> kenseto <setoken@att.net> wrote:
>>> On Thursday, July 5, 2018 at 10:35:24 AM UTC-4, Gary Harnagel wrote:
>>>> On Thursday, July 5, 2018 at 8:22:56 AM UTC-6, kenseto wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Thursday, July 5, 2018 at 7:25:37 AM UTC-4, CENTRINO wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Because Einstein’s SR copied the LET math with the following nonsense
>>>>> assertions added:
>>>> 
>>>> See?  Seto is another Einstein hater, and he is as stupid as all the
>>>> others.  He pretends to have a "theory" but it is pointless and absurd.
>>> 
>>> I don’t hate Einstein......I pointed out his mistakes.
>>> 
>> 
>> And Newton’s too, you say. 
>> As well as the mistakes in all basic physics books!
>> Because you alone, uneducated in physics, understand physics. 
> 
> What is your problem? 

I just told you what the problem is. You claim that you alone, uneducated
in physics, understand physics. 

> Current physics failed to come up with a viable theory of the cause of gravity. 

That is an incorrect statement. You insist it is not viable for some weird
reasons, but physicists are quite happy with its viability. 

> I was able to come up with such theory.  so what’s wrong with that?
> 

Because of two things: 

1. What you came up with is not a theory because you haven’t been able to
calculate anything with it, which is a firm requirement of a physical
theory. 

2. Nobody uneducated in physics has ever come up with a viable theory of
physics. Ever. 

What you claim you have done nobody believes you have done. Look at your
book sales. 



-- 
Odd Bodkin — Maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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