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Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ?

Started byCENTRINO <none@nonelandia.com>
First post2018-07-05 12:25 +0100
Last post2018-07-13 13:57 -0700
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  Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? CENTRINO <none@nonelandia.com> - 2018-07-05 12:25 +0100
    Re:Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? Libor Striz <poutnik4REMOVEnntp@CAPITALSgmail.com> - 2018-07-05 13:47 +0200
      Re:Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? Oren Woodcock <uw@osiweoq.lp> - 2018-07-07 13:01 +0000
        Re:Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? Libor Striz <poutnik4REMOVEnntp@CAPITALSgmail.com> - 2018-07-07 15:46 +0200
          Re:Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? Oren Woodcock <uw@osiweoq.lp> - 2018-07-07 15:24 +0000
            Re:Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? Libor Striz <poutnik4REMOVEnntp@CAPITALSgmail.com> - 2018-07-10 07:57 +0200
              Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-07-09 23:41 -0700
                Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-10 10:53 +0000
                  Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-07-10 05:22 -0700
              Re:Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? Galin
 Itnik
 Uskanov <van@vovwuk.ac> - 2018-07-10 11:41 +0000
                Re:Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? Libor Striz <poutnik4REMOVEnntp@CAPITALSgmail.com> - 2018-07-10 14:47 +0200
                  Re:Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? Juan Winfrey <ho@ehwhddlr.do> - 2018-07-10 17:38 +0000
                    Re:Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? Libor Striz <poutnik4REMOVEnntp@CAPITALSgmail.com> - 2018-07-10 20:28 +0200
                      Re:Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? Juan Winfrey <ho@ehwhddlr.do> - 2018-07-10 18:57 +0000
              Re:Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? Ování Bodrého <urh@nwroen.ol> - 2018-07-10 20:04 +0000
              Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2018-07-10 15:57 -0700
                Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2018-07-10 16:12 -0700
                  Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2018-07-10 16:20 -0700
                    Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2018-07-10 16:51 -0700
                      Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2018-07-10 17:37 -0700
                        Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2018-07-11 11:00 -0700
                          Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2018-07-13 11:18 -0700
    Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? Dirk Van de moortel <dirkvandemoortel@notmail.com> - 2018-07-05 14:06 +0200
    Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-07-05 07:22 -0700
      Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-07-05 07:35 -0700
        Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-07-05 08:05 -0700
          Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-07-05 08:10 -0700
          Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-07-05 10:13 -0700
            Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? Oren Woodcock <uw@osiweoq.lp> - 2018-07-05 21:26 +0000
              Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-07-05 14:32 -0700
                Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? Oren Woodcock <uw@osiweoq.lp> - 2018-07-05 21:38 +0000
            Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-07-07 07:41 -0700
              Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-07 15:48 +0000
                Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-07-07 09:48 -0700
              Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-07-07 08:56 -0700
                Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? Galin
 Itnik
 Uskanov <van@vovwuk.ac> - 2018-07-09 14:09 +0000
                  Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-07-09 12:03 -0700
          Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-05 18:17 +0000
            Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-07-07 07:23 -0700
              Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-07 15:48 +0000
      Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? Volney <volney@volney.invalid> - 2018-07-05 11:09 -0400
      Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-07-05 10:12 -0700
        Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-07-07 07:38 -0700
          Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-07-07 09:00 -0700
      Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-07-05 12:49 -0700
        Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? Oren Woodcock <uw@osiweoq.lp> - 2018-07-05 21:44 +0000
          Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-07-05 15:21 -0700
            Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? Oren Woodcock <uw@osiweoq.lp> - 2018-07-05 22:55 +0000
              Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-07-05 20:58 -0700
        Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-07-07 14:26 +0200
          Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-07-07 09:18 -0700
            Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? Oren Woodcock <uw@osiweoq.lp> - 2018-07-07 17:04 +0000
              Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-07-07 10:11 -0700
                Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? Galin
 Itnik Uskanov <van@vovwuk.ac> - 2018-07-09 13:27 +0000
                  Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-07-09 12:01 -0700
                    Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? Juan Winfrey <ho@ehwhddlr.do> - 2018-07-10 17:40 +0000
                      Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-07-10 13:20 -0700
                        Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? Ování Bodrého <urh@nwroen.ol> - 2018-07-10 21:08 +0000
                          Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-07-10 14:25 -0700
                            Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? Ování Bodrého <urh@nwroen.ol> - 2018-07-11 11:09 +0000
                          Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-07-10 15:22 -0700
                            Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? Ování Bodrého <urh@nwroen.ol> - 2018-07-11 11:07 +0000
                              Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-07-11 16:55 -0700
                                Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-07-11 18:42 -0700
                                  Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? Olin Hayton <toa@nahslao.nh> - 2018-07-12 11:19 +0000
                                Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? Olin Hayton <toa@nahslao.nh> - 2018-07-12 10:54 +0000
            Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-07-07 19:19 +0200
              Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-07-07 21:57 -0700
                Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-07-08 12:56 +0200
                  Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-07-08 09:45 -0700
                Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-07-08 18:46 +0200
                  Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? Paparios <mrios@ing.puc.cl> - 2018-07-08 11:01 -0700
                    Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-07-09 05:00 +0200
                      Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? Paparios <mrios@ing.puc.cl> - 2018-07-09 07:03 -0700
                        Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? Galin
 Itnik
 Uskanov <van@vovwuk.ac> - 2018-07-09 14:05 +0000
                        Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-07-09 16:32 +0200
                  Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-07-08 13:25 -0700
                    Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-07-09 06:04 +0200
                    Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-07-09 04:39 -0700
                      Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-07-09 21:21 +0200
        Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-07-07 07:11 -0700
          Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-07 15:35 +0000
          Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-07-07 09:36 -0700
            Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? Galin
 Itnik
 Uskanov <van@vovwuk.ac> - 2018-07-09 14:55 +0000
              Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-07-09 12:27 -0700
                Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? Juan Winfrey <ho@ehwhddlr.do> - 2018-07-10 17:36 +0000
                  Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-07-10 13:18 -0700
                    Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? Ování Bodrého <urh@nwroen.ol> - 2018-07-10 21:06 +0000
                      Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-07-10 15:21 -0700
                        Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2018-07-10 22:17 -0700
                          Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? Ování Bodrého <urh@nwroen.ol> - 2018-07-11 10:59 +0000
                          Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-07-11 16:54 -0700
                            Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2018-07-11 17:39 -0700
                              Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? Olin Hayton <toa@nahslao.nh> - 2018-07-12 11:04 +0000
                                Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-07-12 10:59 -0700
                              Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-07-12 10:53 -0700
                                Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2018-07-12 17:21 -0700
                                  Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-07-12 19:48 -0700
                                  Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-07-13 11:37 -0700
                                Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? nobody@nowhere.com - 2018-07-12 21:25 -0400
                                  Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-07-13 11:42 -0700
                            Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? Olin Hayton <toa@nahslao.nh> - 2018-07-12 10:55 +0000
                              Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-07-12 10:58 -0700
                                Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2018-07-12 17:25 -0700
                                  Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-07-12 21:11 -0700
                                  Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-07-13 11:39 -0700
                                    Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? Olin Hayton <toa@nahslao.nh> - 2018-07-13 23:16 +0000
                                      Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-07-13 20:23 -0700
                                        Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? Olin Hayton <toa@nahslao.nh> - 2018-07-14 14:50 +0000
                                          Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-07-14 22:14 -0700
    Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-07-05 07:53 -0700
      Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-07-05 08:05 -0700
        Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-07-05 11:28 -0700
          Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-07-05 14:48 -0700
    Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-07-05 10:08 -0700
      Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? Dirk Van de moortel <dirkvandemoortel@notmail.com> - 2018-07-06 00:08 +0200
      Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? HGW <HW@home.net> - 2018-07-07 09:24 +1000
        Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-07-06 16:48 -0700
          Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? Oren Woodcock <uw@osiweoq.lp> - 2018-07-07 12:43 +0000
            Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-07-07 09:23 -0700
              Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? Oren Woodcock <uw@osiweoq.lp> - 2018-07-07 17:00 +0000
                Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-07-07 10:13 -0700
                  Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? Oren Woodcock <uw@osiweoq.lp> - 2018-07-07 18:24 +0000
          Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? HGW <HW@home.net> - 2018-07-09 09:01 +1000
        Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2018-07-07 21:09 +0200
    Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-05 18:17 +0000
      Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-07-05 11:35 -0700
        Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-05 18:48 +0000
    Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-07-05 12:04 -0700
      Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-07-05 12:58 -0700
        Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-07-05 13:51 -0700
          Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-06 10:57 +0000
            Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-07-06 04:45 -0700
              Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-06 20:41 +0000
                Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-07-06 13:59 -0700
                  Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-07 00:51 +0000
                    Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-07-06 22:25 -0700
                      Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-07 09:30 +0000
                        Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-07-07 03:31 -0700
    Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2018-07-05 21:54 -0700
      Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-07-05 23:53 -0700
    Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-07-07 12:33 +0200
      Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-07-07 05:36 -0700
        Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-07 15:35 +0000
          Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-07-07 09:40 -0700
            Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-07-07 09:52 -0700
            Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-07 19:57 +0000
              Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-07-07 14:35 -0700
                Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-07-07 14:47 -0700
                Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-07 23:42 +0000
                Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-07-07 21:59 -0700
                  Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-07-07 22:15 -0700
                  Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-07-07 22:26 -0700
                    Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-07-07 23:19 -0700
                      Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-07-08 14:39 -0700
                        Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-07-08 23:31 -0700
                          Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-07-08 23:46 -0700
                          Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-07-09 14:36 -0700
                            Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-07-09 14:46 -0700
                              Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? Libor Striz <poutnik4REMOVEnntp@CAPITALSgmail.com> - 2018-07-10 05:42 +0200
                              Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-07-09 21:43 -0700
                                Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-07-09 22:12 -0700
                                Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-10 10:53 +0000
                                  Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-07-10 10:49 -0700
                                    Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? Juan Winfrey <ho@ehwhddlr.do> - 2018-07-10 17:58 +0000
                                      Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-07-10 11:28 -0700
                  Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-07-08 05:51 -0700
                    Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? Libor Striz <poutnik4REMOVEnntp@CAPITALSgmail.com> - 2018-07-08 15:55 +0200
                      Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-07-08 13:16 -0700
                    Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-08 15:19 +0000
                      Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-07-08 13:14 -0700
                        Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-07-08 13:40 -0700
                        Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-09 03:07 +0000
                          Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-07-08 23:00 -0700
                            Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-09 10:41 +0000
                              Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-07-09 04:02 -0700
                                Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-09 11:20 +0000
                                  Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-07-09 04:38 -0700
                              Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? Volney <volney@volney.invalid> - 2018-07-09 07:07 -0400
                                Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? Python <python@python.invalid> - 2018-07-09 13:14 +0200
                                  Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-07-09 04:19 -0700
                                Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-07-09 04:18 -0700
                                  Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? Volney <volney@volney.invalid> - 2018-07-09 08:49 -0400
                                    Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-07-09 05:56 -0700
                                      Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? Volney <volney@volney.invalid> - 2018-07-09 09:32 -0400
                                        Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-07-09 07:01 -0700
                                          Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? Volney <volney@volney.invalid> - 2018-07-09 11:45 -0400
                                            Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-07-09 09:18 -0700
                                    Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2018-07-09 08:45 -0700
                                      Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2018-07-09 14:09 -0700
                                Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-09 11:20 +0000
                    Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-07-08 09:48 -0700
                  Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-07-09 04:59 -0700
                    Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-09 13:15 +0000
                      Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-07-09 06:19 -0700
                      Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-07-09 07:19 -0700
                        Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-10 03:46 +0000
                          Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-07-10 08:58 -0700
                            Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-07-10 09:17 -0700
                            Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-10 17:55 +0000
                            Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-07-10 13:15 -0700
                              Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-07-10 21:43 -0700
                      Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? Libor Striz <poutnik4REMOVEnntp@CAPITALSgmail.com> - 2018-07-09 18:38 +0200
                    Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-07-09 12:00 -0700
              Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-07-07 14:45 -0700
                Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-07-07 22:45 +0000
                Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-07 23:42 +0000
                  Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-07-09 04:50 -0700
                Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? HGW <HW@home.net> - 2018-07-09 09:07 +1000
    Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? xip1415926@gmail.com - 2018-07-07 07:31 -0700
      Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-07-07 18:21 +0200
        Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? xip1415926@gmail.com - 2018-07-07 11:07 -0700
          Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-07-08 12:51 +0200
            Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? xip1415926@gmail.com - 2018-07-08 05:04 -0700
              Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-07-08 17:33 +0200
                Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? xip1415926@gmail.com - 2018-07-08 13:45 -0700
                  Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-07-09 06:36 +0200
                    Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? xip1415926@gmail.com - 2018-07-09 05:35 -0700
                      Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-07-09 15:32 +0200
                        Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? Galin Itnik Uskanov <van@vovwuk.ac> - 2018-07-09 13:38 +0000
                          Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-07-09 16:24 +0200
                            Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? Galin
 Itnik
 Uskanov <van@vovwuk.ac> - 2018-07-09 14:38 +0000
                Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? xip1415926@gmail.com - 2018-07-08 14:42 -0700
                Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? xip1415926@gmail.com - 2018-07-08 14:55 -0700
                  Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-07-09 15:20 +0200
                    Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? Galin Itnik Uskanov <van@vovwuk.ac> - 2018-07-09 13:33 +0000
                Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? xip1415926@gmail.com - 2018-07-08 19:05 -0700
                Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? HGW <HW@home.net> - 2018-07-10 09:32 +1000
                  Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-10 03:46 +0000
    Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? consequently7990662@gmail.com - 2018-07-09 15:00 -0700
    Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? mikedwy@aol.com - 2018-07-09 22:18 -0700
      Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? Libor Striz <poutnik4REMOVEnntp@CAPITALSgmail.com> - 2018-07-10 07:40 +0200
        Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? Galin
 Itnik
 Uskanov <van@vovwuk.ac> - 2018-07-10 12:12 +0000
          Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? Libor Striz <poutnik4REMOVEnntp@CAPITALSgmail.com> - 2018-07-10 14:47 +0200
            Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? Juan Winfrey <ho@ehwhddlr.do> - 2018-07-10 17:23 +0000
      Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-10 10:53 +0000
      Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? Juan Winfrey <ho@ehwhddlr.do> - 2018-07-10 17:44 +0000
    Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? numbernumber1964@gmail.com - 2018-07-10 13:20 -0700
    Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? numbernumber1964@gmail.com - 2018-07-10 14:55 -0700
    Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? numbernumber1964@gmail.com - 2018-07-10 18:10 -0700
    Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? numbernumber1964@gmail.com - 2018-07-11 12:21 -0700
    Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? consequently7990662@gmail.com - 2018-07-11 15:45 -0700
    Re: Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ? numbernumber1964@gmail.com - 2018-07-13 13:54 -0700
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#463479 — Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ?

FromCENTRINO <none@nonelandia.com>
Date2018-07-05 12:25 +0100
SubjectWhy so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ?
Message-ID<phkv7f$j4n$1@dont-email.me>
Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ?

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#463480

FromLibor Striz <poutnik4REMOVEnntp@CAPITALSgmail.com>
Date2018-07-05 13:47 +0200
Message-ID<phl0fv$qri$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#463479
CENTRINO <none@nonelandia.com> Wrote in message:
> Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ?
> 

Because he brought a challenge to their mind, revealing they may
 not  be as clever as they think about themselves.

Therefore they claim Albert Einstein wrote pure nonsense
and all who agree with him
must be stupid fools.

This method is nothing knew, children use it regularly during
 their games.

Notice their objections and hatred come from their ignorance, not
 from their knowledge.

-- 
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#463691

FromOren Woodcock <uw@osiweoq.lp>
Date2018-07-07 13:01 +0000
Message-ID<phqdjn$1ons$3@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#463480
Libor Striz wrote:

> CENTRINO <none@nonelandia.com> Wrote in message:
>> Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ?
>
> Because he brought a challenge to their mind, revealing they may
>  not  be as clever as they think about themselves.

This coming from a turd, not knowing what a Doppler shift is, makes the 
cause of Einstein looks worse than bad.

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#463695

FromLibor Striz <poutnik4REMOVEnntp@CAPITALSgmail.com>
Date2018-07-07 15:46 +0200
Message-ID<phqg8f$6k1$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#463691
Oren Woodcock <uw@osiweoq.lp> Wrote in message:
> Libor Striz wrote:
> 
>> CENTRINO <none@nonelandia.com> Wrote in message:
>>> Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ?
>>
>> Because he brought a challenge to their mind, revealing they may
>>  not  be as clever as they think about themselves.
> 
> This coming from a turd, not knowing what a Doppler shift is, makes the 
> cause of Einstein looks worse than bad.
> 
Do not bother, the dedicated nymshifting troll of the group.
Nobody takes you seriously.

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#463701

FromOren Woodcock <uw@osiweoq.lp>
Date2018-07-07 15:24 +0000
Message-ID<phqluq$8fj$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#463695
the nymshifting turd Libor Striz wrote:

> Oren Woodcock <uw@osiweoq.lp> Wrote in message:
>> Libor Striz wrote:
>> 
>>> CENTRINO <none@nonelandia.com> Wrote in message:
>>>> Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ?
>>>
>>> Because he brought a challenge to their mind, revealing they may
>>>  not  be as clever as they think about themselves.
>> 
>> This coming from a turd, not knowing what a Doppler shift is, makes the
>> cause of Einstein looks worse than bad.
>> 
> Do not bother, the dedicated nymshifting troll of the group.
> Nobody takes you seriously.

Thinking at it, it's strongly plausible that not even Einstein understood 
what a Doppler shift stands for. At that time frequencies and the 
dynamics, were not that obvious as those are today. I believe there is no 
Doppler shift mentioned in his papers anywhere. Just a guess, but 
qualified, based on the above already noted.

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#464025

FromLibor Striz <poutnik4REMOVEnntp@CAPITALSgmail.com>
Date2018-07-10 07:57 +0200
Message-ID<pi1ht7$j5t$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#463701
Oren Woodcock <uw@osiweoq.lp> Wrote in message:
> the nymshifting turd Libor Striz wrote:
> 
>> Oren Woodcock <uw@osiweoq.lp> Wrote in message:
>>> Libor Striz wrote:
>>> 
>>>> CENTRINO <none@nonelandia.com> Wrote in message:
>>>>> Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ?
>>>>
>>>> Because he brought a challenge to their mind, revealing they may
>>>>  not  be as clever as they think about themselves.
>>> 
>>> This coming from a turd, not knowing what a Doppler shift is, makes the
>>> cause of Einstein looks worse than bad.
>>> 
>> Do not bother, the dedicated nymshifting troll of the group.
>> Nobody takes you seriously.
> 
> Thinking at it, it's strongly plausible that not even Einstein understood 
> what a Doppler shift stands for. At that time frequencies and the 
> dynamics, were not that obvious as those are today. I believe there is no 
> Doppler shift mentioned in his papers anywhere. Just a guess, but 
> qualified, based on the above already noted.
> 

People do not usually mention obvious things.

As Doppler described the phenomena in 1842, you idea is not backed
 by reason.

Relativistic Doppler shift as combination of classic Doppler shift
 and time dilation is routinely observed for high speed objects
 interacting with photons.

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#464027

Frommlwozniak@wp.pl
Date2018-07-09 23:41 -0700
Message-ID<1e2c1c20-35a7-4672-97d9-4ca0c8f42c41@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#464025
On Tuesday, 10 July 2018 07:58:01 UTC+2, Libor Striz  wrote:

> Relativistic Doppler shift as combination of classic Doppler shift
>  and time dilation is routinely observed for high speed objects
>  interacting with photons.

We should always remember, however, that in the jargon
of modern physics "predicted by our beloved Shit"
is a special case of "observed" by definition.

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#464033

FromOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date2018-07-10 10:53 +0000
Message-ID<pi237f$bqk$5@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#464027
<mlwozniak@wp.pl> wrote:
> On Tuesday, 10 July 2018 07:58:01 UTC+2, Libor Striz  wrote:
> 
>> Relativistic Doppler shift as combination of classic Doppler shift
>> and time dilation is routinely observed for high speed objects
>> interacting with photons.
> 
> We should always remember, however, that in the jargon
> of modern physics "predicted by our beloved Shit"
> is a special case of "observed" by definition.
> 

Bullshit. You have no idea what you are talking about, as you have
abundantly demonstrated. 

-- 
Odd Bodkin — Maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#464051

Frommlwozniak@wp.pl
Date2018-07-10 05:22 -0700
Message-ID<0759c6e7-5c96-4ef3-b66b-c325f0b488f7@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#464033
On Tuesday, 10 July 2018 12:53:40 UTC+2, Odd Bodkin  wrote:
> <mlwozniak@wp.pl> wrote:
> > On Tuesday, 10 July 2018 07:58:01 UTC+2, Libor Striz  wrote:
> > 
> >> Relativistic Doppler shift as combination of classic Doppler shift
> >> and time dilation is routinely observed for high speed objects
> >> interacting with photons.
> > 
> > We should always remember, however, that in the jargon
> > of modern physics "predicted by our beloved Shit"
> > is a special case of "observed" by definition.
> > 
> 
> Bullshit.

Sad truth.  But you have no idea what you are talking about, 
as you have abundantly demonstrated. 

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#464038

FromGalin Itnik Uskanov <van@vovwuk.ac>
Date2018-07-10 11:41 +0000
Message-ID<pi261r$g6p$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#464025
Libor Striz wrote:

> Oren Woodcock <uw@osiweoq.lp> Wrote in message: 
>> Thinking at it, it's strongly plausible that not even Einstein
>> understood what a Doppler shift stands for. At that time frequencies
>> and the dynamics, were not that obvious as those are today. I believe
>> there is no Doppler shift mentioned in his papers anywhere. Just a
>> guess, but qualified, based on the above already noted.
>
> People do not usually mention obvious things. As Doppler described the
> phenomena in 1842, you idea is not backed  by reason.

It is. That it came out a while before is not a reason for having it in 
other papers. Just try think. Your argument sounds idiotic. No offence.

> Relativistic Doppler shift as combination of classic Doppler shift
>  and time dilation is routinely observed for high speed objects
>  interacting with photons.

You are doing it again, even in your words. Doppler shift is shift alone. 
Time dilation is not related to Doppler shift in any way. Actually would 
violate the phenomenon.

You are a one supporting relativity not understanding it.

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#464056

FromLibor Striz <poutnik4REMOVEnntp@CAPITALSgmail.com>
Date2018-07-10 14:47 +0200
Message-ID<pi29s6$sfr$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#464038
Galin
 Itnik
 Uskanov <van@vovwuk.ac> Wrote in message:
> Libor Striz wrote:
> 
>> Oren Woodcock <uw@osiweoq.lp> Wrote in message: 
>>> Thinking at it, it's strongly plausible that not even Einstein
>>> understood what a Doppler shift stands for. At that time frequencies
>>> and the dynamics, were not that obvious as those are today. I believe
>>> there is no Doppler shift mentioned in his papers anywhere. Just a
>>> guess, but qualified, based on the above already noted.
>>
>> People do not usually mention obvious things. As Doppler described the
>> phenomena in 1842, you idea is not backed  by reason.
> 
> It is. That it came out a while before is not a reason for having it in 
> other papers. Just try think. Your argument sounds idiotic. No offence.
> 
>> Relativistic Doppler shift as combination of classic Doppler shift
>>  and time dilation is routinely observed for high speed objects
>>  interacting with photons.
> 
> You are doing it again, even in your words. Doppler shift is shift alone. 
> Time dilation is not related to Doppler shift in any way. Actually would 
> violate the phenomenon.
> 
> You are a one supporting relativity not understanding it.
> 

You do not understand the words  you are saying.
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#464084

FromJuan Winfrey <ho@ehwhddlr.do>
Date2018-07-10 17:38 +0000
Message-ID<pi2quk$1p5h$5@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#464056
Libor Striz wrote:

>>> Relativistic Doppler shift as combination of classic Doppler shift
>>>  and time dilation is routinely observed for high speed objects
>>>  interacting with photons.
>> 
>> You are doing it again, even in your words. Doppler shift is shift
>> alone. Time dilation is not related to Doppler shift in any way.
>> Actually would violate the phenomenon.
>> You are a one supporting relativity not understanding it.
>
> You do not understand the words  you are saying.

He wrote, and is not "saying". But is obvious from you two's discussion, 
that you are the imbecile.

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#464097

FromLibor Striz <poutnik4REMOVEnntp@CAPITALSgmail.com>
Date2018-07-10 20:28 +0200
Message-ID<pi2tsh$7g4$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#464084
Juan Winfrey <ho@ehwhddlr.do> Wrote in message:
> Libor Striz wrote:
> 
>>>> Relativistic Doppler shift as combination of classic Doppler shift
>>>>  and time dilation is routinely observed for high speed objects
>>>>  interacting with photons.
>>> 
>>> You are doing it again, even in your words. Doppler shift is shift
>>> alone. Time dilation is not related to Doppler shift in any way.
>>> Actually would violate the phenomenon.
>>> You are a one supporting relativity not understanding it.
>>
>> You do not understand the words  you are saying.
> 
> He wrote, and is not "saying". But is obvious from you two's discussion, 
> that you are the imbecile.

Heavy schizophrenia in action.
There is no he, just you.

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#464100

FromJuan Winfrey <ho@ehwhddlr.do>
Date2018-07-10 18:57 +0000
Message-ID<pi2vi0$3k2$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#464097
Libor Striz wrote:

> Juan Winfrey <ho@ehwhddlr.do> Wrote in message:
>> Libor Striz wrote:
>> 
>>>>> Relativistic Doppler shift as combination of classic Doppler shift
>>>>>  and time dilation is routinely observed for high speed objects
>>>>>  interacting with photons.
>>>> 
>>>> You are doing it again, even in your words. Doppler shift is shift
>>>> alone. Time dilation is not related to Doppler shift in any way.
>>>> Actually would violate the phenomenon.
>>>> You are a one supporting relativity not understanding it.
>>>
>>> You do not understand the words  you are saying.
>> 
>> He wrote, and is not "saying". But is obvious from you two's
>> discussion, that you are the imbecile.
> 
> Heavy schizophrenia in action. There is no he, just you.

Who is "he", you cretin. You just display your ignorance not knowing the 
basics in physics and science in general. Google _Doppler shift_ then 
__effect_ separately. There is no link among those things. 

You are indeed a big mouth imbecile, if not the biggest around here.

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#464106

FromOvání Bodrého <urh@nwroen.ol>
Date2018-07-10 20:04 +0000
Message-ID<pi33ga$afg$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#464025
Libor Striz wrote:

>> Thinking at it, it's strongly plausible that not even Einstein
>> understood what a Doppler shift stands for. At that time frequencies
>> and the dynamics, were not that obvious as those are today. I believe
>> there is no Doppler shift mentioned in his papers anywhere. Just a
>> guess, but qualified, based on the above already noted.
>> 
>> 
> People do not usually mention obvious things.
> As Doppler described the phenomena in 1842, you idea is not backed
>  by reason. 
> Relativistic Doppler shift as combination of classic Doppler shift
>  and time dilation is routinely observed for high speed objects
>  interacting with photons.

But you said "Doppler effects", not "Relativistic Doppler shift", you 
lovely unemployable, uneducated and inexperienced. This is what this 
article is all about.

I believe the wonderful people in this forum demands an explanation for 
you forced lying and hypocrisia.

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#464131

From"Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com>
Date2018-07-10 15:57 -0700
Message-ID<e05ce721-7388-4455-9edd-e75ff6425379@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#464025
On Monday, July 9, 2018 at 10:58:01 PM UTC-7, Libor Striz wrote:
> Oren Woodcock <uw@osiweoq.lp> Wrote in message:
> > the nymshifting turd Libor Striz wrote:
> > 
> >> Oren Woodcock <uw@osiweoq.lp> Wrote in message:
> >>> Libor Striz wrote:
> >>> 
> >>>> CENTRINO <none@nonelandia.com> Wrote in message:
> >>>>> Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ?
> >>>>
> >>>> Because he brought a challenge to their mind, revealing they may
> >>>>  not  be as clever as they think about themselves.
> >>> 
> >>> This coming from a turd, not knowing what a Doppler shift is, makes the
> >>> cause of Einstein looks worse than bad.
> >>> 
> >> Do not bother, the dedicated nymshifting troll of the group.
> >> Nobody takes you seriously.
> > 
> > Thinking at it, it's strongly plausible that not even Einstein understood 
> > what a Doppler shift stands for. At that time frequencies and the 
> > dynamics, were not that obvious as those are today. I believe there is no 
> > Doppler shift mentioned in his papers anywhere. Just a guess, but 
> > qualified, based on the above already noted.
> > 
> 
> People do not usually mention obvious things.
> 
> As Doppler described the phenomena in 1842, you idea is not backed
>  by reason.
> 
> Relativistic Doppler shift as combination of classic Doppler shift
>  and time dilation is routinely observed for high speed objects
>  interacting with photons.
> 
> -- 
> Libor Striz aka Poutnik ( a pilgrim/wanderer/wayfarer)
> 
> "Humour is the only effective weapon against stupidity."
> Miloš Forman
> 
> 

Thanks for pointing this out, about the 
relativistic Doppler, here vis-a-vis the 
frame-dragging or Thirring-Lense.

This problem of time, or rather the relative 
constancy of clocks besides reading them 
from a distance and under acceleration, 
there's again this notion that these days 
there's that "SR is local" ("space-time is flat"), 
and about the continuity of the manifold of 
space-time (i.e., that the path integral is yet 
one world-line, and there are no discontinuities), 
there's an idea (and besides "there's no anti-photon" 
or "the dual event of the wave-form collapse as 
about the tachyonic flux of the pilot wave") that 
light is a constant transmission.

There's here both the geometric and wave optics 
of light, here for example as about the usual 
cosmological experiment of the quasar and only 
the geometric optic (and besides stuff like 
Fresnel to complement gravitational lensing 
with the lensing of large bodies), here I think 
it's very interesting the corresponding note of 
the "relativistic Doppler" while still maintaining 
as above the continuity of the space-time manifold.

(
  http://adsabs.harvard.edu/full/1981AcC....10...53H
)

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#464133

From"Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com>
Date2018-07-10 16:12 -0700
Message-ID<2da152ae-e25d-4679-9364-147a495393d2@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#464131
On Tuesday, July 10, 2018 at 3:57:45 PM UTC-7, Ross A. Finlayson wrote:
> On Monday, July 9, 2018 at 10:58:01 PM UTC-7, Libor Striz wrote:
> > Oren Woodcock <uw@osiweoq.lp> Wrote in message:
> > > the nymshifting turd Libor Striz wrote:
> > > 
> > >> Oren Woodcock <uw@osiweoq.lp> Wrote in message:
> > >>> Libor Striz wrote:
> > >>> 
> > >>>> CENTRINO <none@nonelandia.com> Wrote in message:
> > >>>>> Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ?
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Because he brought a challenge to their mind, revealing they may
> > >>>>  not  be as clever as they think about themselves.
> > >>> 
> > >>> This coming from a turd, not knowing what a Doppler shift is, makes the
> > >>> cause of Einstein looks worse than bad.
> > >>> 
> > >> Do not bother, the dedicated nymshifting troll of the group.
> > >> Nobody takes you seriously.
> > > 
> > > Thinking at it, it's strongly plausible that not even Einstein understood 
> > > what a Doppler shift stands for. At that time frequencies and the 
> > > dynamics, were not that obvious as those are today. I believe there is no 
> > > Doppler shift mentioned in his papers anywhere. Just a guess, but 
> > > qualified, based on the above already noted.
> > > 
> > 
> > People do not usually mention obvious things.
> > 
> > As Doppler described the phenomena in 1842, you idea is not backed
> >  by reason.
> > 
> > Relativistic Doppler shift as combination of classic Doppler shift
> >  and time dilation is routinely observed for high speed objects
> >  interacting with photons.
> > 
> > -- 
> > Libor Striz aka Poutnik ( a pilgrim/wanderer/wayfarer)
> > 
> > "Humour is the only effective weapon against stupidity."
> > Miloš Forman
> > 
> > 
> 
> Thanks for pointing this out, about the 
> relativistic Doppler, here vis-a-vis the 
> frame-dragging or Thirring-Lense.
> 
> This problem of time, or rather the relative 
> constancy of clocks besides reading them 
> from a distance and under acceleration, 
> there's again this notion that these days 
> there's that "SR is local" ("space-time is flat"), 
> and about the continuity of the manifold of 
> space-time (i.e., that the path integral is yet 
> one world-line, and there are no discontinuities), 
> there's an idea (and besides "there's no anti-photon" 
> or "the dual event of the wave-form collapse as 
> about the tachyonic flux of the pilot wave") that 
> light is a constant transmission.
> 
> There's here both the geometric and wave optics 
> of light, here for example as about the usual 
> cosmological experiment of the quasar and only 
> the geometric optic (and besides stuff like 
> Fresnel to complement gravitational lensing 
> with the lensing of large bodies), here I think 
> it's very interesting the corresponding note of 
> the "relativistic Doppler" while still maintaining 
> as above the continuity of the space-time manifold.
> 
> (
>   http://adsabs.harvard.edu/full/1981AcC....10...53H
> )


From "Relativistic Model for Spacetime", Heller '81:

"A Lorentz metric exists on M if and only if 
M has a smooth field of line elements."

"Since a non-zero vector field on M 
determines a direction field on M, 
we have the following result: 
M carries at least one Lorentz metric, 
and therefore an infinite number of 
Lorentz metrics, if and only if 
a non-vanishing direction field exists on M."

(Gradient?)

Then this is following with saying:
there are two paths of time at an instant/event, 
but only one past.  And, there's only one future.

G-d has dice?  Einstein/SR proves G-d has dice?

That's quite an excellent paper, survey, and summary.

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#464134

From"Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com>
Date2018-07-10 16:20 -0700
Message-ID<80af17f9-3504-4c71-9e72-6fd4b60e46dd@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#464133
On Tuesday, July 10, 2018 at 4:12:23 PM UTC-7, Ross A. Finlayson wrote:
> On Tuesday, July 10, 2018 at 3:57:45 PM UTC-7, Ross A. Finlayson wrote:
> > On Monday, July 9, 2018 at 10:58:01 PM UTC-7, Libor Striz wrote:
> > > Oren Woodcock <uw@osiweoq.lp> Wrote in message:
> > > > the nymshifting turd Libor Striz wrote:
> > > > 
> > > >> Oren Woodcock <uw@osiweoq.lp> Wrote in message:
> > > >>> Libor Striz wrote:
> > > >>> 
> > > >>>> CENTRINO <none@nonelandia.com> Wrote in message:
> > > >>>>> Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ?
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> Because he brought a challenge to their mind, revealing they may
> > > >>>>  not  be as clever as they think about themselves.
> > > >>> 
> > > >>> This coming from a turd, not knowing what a Doppler shift is, makes the
> > > >>> cause of Einstein looks worse than bad.
> > > >>> 
> > > >> Do not bother, the dedicated nymshifting troll of the group.
> > > >> Nobody takes you seriously.
> > > > 
> > > > Thinking at it, it's strongly plausible that not even Einstein understood 
> > > > what a Doppler shift stands for. At that time frequencies and the 
> > > > dynamics, were not that obvious as those are today. I believe there is no 
> > > > Doppler shift mentioned in his papers anywhere. Just a guess, but 
> > > > qualified, based on the above already noted.
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > People do not usually mention obvious things.
> > > 
> > > As Doppler described the phenomena in 1842, you idea is not backed
> > >  by reason.
> > > 
> > > Relativistic Doppler shift as combination of classic Doppler shift
> > >  and time dilation is routinely observed for high speed objects
> > >  interacting with photons.
> > > 
> > > -- 
> > > Libor Striz aka Poutnik ( a pilgrim/wanderer/wayfarer)
> > > 
> > > "Humour is the only effective weapon against stupidity."
> > > Miloš Forman
> > > 
> > > 
> > 
> > Thanks for pointing this out, about the 
> > relativistic Doppler, here vis-a-vis the 
> > frame-dragging or Thirring-Lense.
> > 
> > This problem of time, or rather the relative 
> > constancy of clocks besides reading them 
> > from a distance and under acceleration, 
> > there's again this notion that these days 
> > there's that "SR is local" ("space-time is flat"), 
> > and about the continuity of the manifold of 
> > space-time (i.e., that the path integral is yet 
> > one world-line, and there are no discontinuities), 
> > there's an idea (and besides "there's no anti-photon" 
> > or "the dual event of the wave-form collapse as 
> > about the tachyonic flux of the pilot wave") that 
> > light is a constant transmission.
> > 
> > There's here both the geometric and wave optics 
> > of light, here for example as about the usual 
> > cosmological experiment of the quasar and only 
> > the geometric optic (and besides stuff like 
> > Fresnel to complement gravitational lensing 
> > with the lensing of large bodies), here I think 
> > it's very interesting the corresponding note of 
> > the "relativistic Doppler" while still maintaining 
> > as above the continuity of the space-time manifold.
> > 
> > (
> >   http://adsabs.harvard.edu/full/1981AcC....10...53H
> > )
> 
> 
> From "Relativistic Model for Spacetime", Heller '81:
> 
> "A Lorentz metric exists on M if and only if 
> M has a smooth field of line elements."
> 
> "Since a non-zero vector field on M 
> determines a direction field on M, 
> we have the following result: 
> M carries at least one Lorentz metric, 
> and therefore an infinite number of 
> Lorentz metrics, if and only if 
> a non-vanishing direction field exists on M."
> 
> (Gradient?)
> 
> Then this is following with saying:
> there are two paths of time at an instant/event, 
> but only one past.  And, there's only one future.
> 
> G-d has dice?  Einstein/SR proves G-d has dice?
> 
> That's quite an excellent paper, survey, and summary.

The thing about "action at a distance" is 
that's its past.  Its past is already told.  
This with this "Mach's principle" that inertia 
(for kinetic instead of thermodynamic as 
"fundamental") is a property of not just 
objects but their context altogether, 
SR being local and stochastic everywhere 
seems to fit with a model of Dirac sea 
and some LeSage-ian fall gravity with 
classical, _and_ relativistic, conclusions 
falling out of "the" model.

This is, classical, relativistic, and absolute again.

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#464137

From"Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com>
Date2018-07-10 16:51 -0700
Message-ID<8f190d7d-c12f-427a-823c-9c9c4703da90@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#464134
On Tuesday, July 10, 2018 at 4:20:16 PM UTC-7, Ross A. Finlayson wrote:
> On Tuesday, July 10, 2018 at 4:12:23 PM UTC-7, Ross A. Finlayson wrote:
> > On Tuesday, July 10, 2018 at 3:57:45 PM UTC-7, Ross A. Finlayson wrote:
> > > On Monday, July 9, 2018 at 10:58:01 PM UTC-7, Libor Striz wrote:
> > > > Oren Woodcock <uw@osiweoq.lp> Wrote in message:
> > > > > the nymshifting turd Libor Striz wrote:
> > > > > 
> > > > >> Oren Woodcock <uw@osiweoq.lp> Wrote in message:
> > > > >>> Libor Striz wrote:
> > > > >>> 
> > > > >>>> CENTRINO <none@nonelandia.com> Wrote in message:
> > > > >>>>> Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ?
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>> Because he brought a challenge to their mind, revealing they may
> > > > >>>>  not  be as clever as they think about themselves.
> > > > >>> 
> > > > >>> This coming from a turd, not knowing what a Doppler shift is, makes the
> > > > >>> cause of Einstein looks worse than bad.
> > > > >>> 
> > > > >> Do not bother, the dedicated nymshifting troll of the group.
> > > > >> Nobody takes you seriously.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Thinking at it, it's strongly plausible that not even Einstein understood 
> > > > > what a Doppler shift stands for. At that time frequencies and the 
> > > > > dynamics, were not that obvious as those are today. I believe there is no 
> > > > > Doppler shift mentioned in his papers anywhere. Just a guess, but 
> > > > > qualified, based on the above already noted.
> > > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > People do not usually mention obvious things.
> > > > 
> > > > As Doppler described the phenomena in 1842, you idea is not backed
> > > >  by reason.
> > > > 
> > > > Relativistic Doppler shift as combination of classic Doppler shift
> > > >  and time dilation is routinely observed for high speed objects
> > > >  interacting with photons.
> > > > 
> > > > -- 
> > > > Libor Striz aka Poutnik ( a pilgrim/wanderer/wayfarer)
> > > > 
> > > > "Humour is the only effective weapon against stupidity."
> > > > Miloš Forman
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > Thanks for pointing this out, about the 
> > > relativistic Doppler, here vis-a-vis the 
> > > frame-dragging or Thirring-Lense.
> > > 
> > > This problem of time, or rather the relative 
> > > constancy of clocks besides reading them 
> > > from a distance and under acceleration, 
> > > there's again this notion that these days 
> > > there's that "SR is local" ("space-time is flat"), 
> > > and about the continuity of the manifold of 
> > > space-time (i.e., that the path integral is yet 
> > > one world-line, and there are no discontinuities), 
> > > there's an idea (and besides "there's no anti-photon" 
> > > or "the dual event of the wave-form collapse as 
> > > about the tachyonic flux of the pilot wave") that 
> > > light is a constant transmission.
> > > 
> > > There's here both the geometric and wave optics 
> > > of light, here for example as about the usual 
> > > cosmological experiment of the quasar and only 
> > > the geometric optic (and besides stuff like 
> > > Fresnel to complement gravitational lensing 
> > > with the lensing of large bodies), here I think 
> > > it's very interesting the corresponding note of 
> > > the "relativistic Doppler" while still maintaining 
> > > as above the continuity of the space-time manifold.
> > > 
> > > (
> > >   http://adsabs.harvard.edu/full/1981AcC....10...53H
> > > )
> > 
> > 
> > From "Relativistic Model for Spacetime", Heller '81:
> > 
> > "A Lorentz metric exists on M if and only if 
> > M has a smooth field of line elements."
> > 
> > "Since a non-zero vector field on M 
> > determines a direction field on M, 
> > we have the following result: 
> > M carries at least one Lorentz metric, 
> > and therefore an infinite number of 
> > Lorentz metrics, if and only if 
> > a non-vanishing direction field exists on M."
> > 
> > (Gradient?)
> > 
> > Then this is following with saying:
> > there are two paths of time at an instant/event, 
> > but only one past.  And, there's only one future.
> > 
> > G-d has dice?  Einstein/SR proves G-d has dice?
> > 
> > That's quite an excellent paper, survey, and summary.
> 
> The thing about "action at a distance" is 
> that's its past.  Its past is already told.  
> This with this "Mach's principle" that inertia 
> (for kinetic instead of thermodynamic as 
> "fundamental") is a property of not just 
> objects but their context altogether, 
> SR being local and stochastic everywhere 
> seems to fit with a model of Dirac sea 
> and some LeSage-ian fall gravity with 
> classical, _and_ relativistic, conclusions 
> falling out of "the" model.
> 
> This is, classical, relativistic, and absolute again.


"Cantor proves the line is drawn, 
and Einstein proves G-d has dice."

"No time like the present."

"What time is now."

It seems like the wave-function and 
the measurement, sampling, and observer 
effects are collapsing the wave-function.

The particle isn't just its point, 
it is its state.

This isn't "spooky action at a distance", 
rather "this".

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wave_function_collapse

Light:  geometric _and_ "wave" optics.

So, nature's stochastic, and it will be, now that's the past.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ray_(quantum_theory)

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#464138

From"Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com>
Date2018-07-10 17:37 -0700
Message-ID<fdb7ec50-6e1c-4e7c-b1db-4ab9b102ed97@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#464137
On Tuesday, July 10, 2018 at 4:51:56 PM UTC-7, Ross A. Finlayson wrote:
> On Tuesday, July 10, 2018 at 4:20:16 PM UTC-7, Ross A. Finlayson wrote:
> > On Tuesday, July 10, 2018 at 4:12:23 PM UTC-7, Ross A. Finlayson wrote:
> > > On Tuesday, July 10, 2018 at 3:57:45 PM UTC-7, Ross A. Finlayson wrote:
> > > > On Monday, July 9, 2018 at 10:58:01 PM UTC-7, Libor Striz wrote:
> > > > > Oren Woodcock <uw@osiweoq.lp> Wrote in message:
> > > > > > the nymshifting turd Libor Striz wrote:
> > > > > > 
> > > > > >> Oren Woodcock <uw@osiweoq.lp> Wrote in message:
> > > > > >>> Libor Striz wrote:
> > > > > >>> 
> > > > > >>>> CENTRINO <none@nonelandia.com> Wrote in message:
> > > > > >>>>> Why so many do hate Albert Einstein in this group ?
> > > > > >>>>
> > > > > >>>> Because he brought a challenge to their mind, revealing they may
> > > > > >>>>  not  be as clever as they think about themselves.
> > > > > >>> 
> > > > > >>> This coming from a turd, not knowing what a Doppler shift is, makes the
> > > > > >>> cause of Einstein looks worse than bad.
> > > > > >>> 
> > > > > >> Do not bother, the dedicated nymshifting troll of the group.
> > > > > >> Nobody takes you seriously.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Thinking at it, it's strongly plausible that not even Einstein understood 
> > > > > > what a Doppler shift stands for. At that time frequencies and the 
> > > > > > dynamics, were not that obvious as those are today. I believe there is no 
> > > > > > Doppler shift mentioned in his papers anywhere. Just a guess, but 
> > > > > > qualified, based on the above already noted.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > People do not usually mention obvious things.
> > > > > 
> > > > > As Doppler described the phenomena in 1842, you idea is not backed
> > > > >  by reason.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Relativistic Doppler shift as combination of classic Doppler shift
> > > > >  and time dilation is routinely observed for high speed objects
> > > > >  interacting with photons.
> > > > > 
> > > > > -- 
> > > > > Libor Striz aka Poutnik ( a pilgrim/wanderer/wayfarer)
> > > > > 
> > > > > "Humour is the only effective weapon against stupidity."
> > > > > Miloš Forman
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Thanks for pointing this out, about the 
> > > > relativistic Doppler, here vis-a-vis the 
> > > > frame-dragging or Thirring-Lense.
> > > > 
> > > > This problem of time, or rather the relative 
> > > > constancy of clocks besides reading them 
> > > > from a distance and under acceleration, 
> > > > there's again this notion that these days 
> > > > there's that "SR is local" ("space-time is flat"), 
> > > > and about the continuity of the manifold of 
> > > > space-time (i.e., that the path integral is yet 
> > > > one world-line, and there are no discontinuities), 
> > > > there's an idea (and besides "there's no anti-photon" 
> > > > or "the dual event of the wave-form collapse as 
> > > > about the tachyonic flux of the pilot wave") that 
> > > > light is a constant transmission.
> > > > 
> > > > There's here both the geometric and wave optics 
> > > > of light, here for example as about the usual 
> > > > cosmological experiment of the quasar and only 
> > > > the geometric optic (and besides stuff like 
> > > > Fresnel to complement gravitational lensing 
> > > > with the lensing of large bodies), here I think 
> > > > it's very interesting the corresponding note of 
> > > > the "relativistic Doppler" while still maintaining 
> > > > as above the continuity of the space-time manifold.
> > > > 
> > > > (
> > > >   http://adsabs.harvard.edu/full/1981AcC....10...53H
> > > > )
> > > 
> > > 
> > > From "Relativistic Model for Spacetime", Heller '81:
> > > 
> > > "A Lorentz metric exists on M if and only if 
> > > M has a smooth field of line elements."
> > > 
> > > "Since a non-zero vector field on M 
> > > determines a direction field on M, 
> > > we have the following result: 
> > > M carries at least one Lorentz metric, 
> > > and therefore an infinite number of 
> > > Lorentz metrics, if and only if 
> > > a non-vanishing direction field exists on M."
> > > 
> > > (Gradient?)
> > > 
> > > Then this is following with saying:
> > > there are two paths of time at an instant/event, 
> > > but only one past.  And, there's only one future.
> > > 
> > > G-d has dice?  Einstein/SR proves G-d has dice?
> > > 
> > > That's quite an excellent paper, survey, and summary.
> > 
> > The thing about "action at a distance" is 
> > that's its past.  Its past is already told.  
> > This with this "Mach's principle" that inertia 
> > (for kinetic instead of thermodynamic as 
> > "fundamental") is a property of not just 
> > objects but their context altogether, 
> > SR being local and stochastic everywhere 
> > seems to fit with a model of Dirac sea 
> > and some LeSage-ian fall gravity with 
> > classical, _and_ relativistic, conclusions 
> > falling out of "the" model.
> > 
> > This is, classical, relativistic, and absolute again.
> 
> 
> "Cantor proves the line is drawn, 
> and Einstein proves G-d has dice."
> 
> "No time like the present."
> 
> "What time is now."
> 
> It seems like the wave-function and 
> the measurement, sampling, and observer 
> effects are collapsing the wave-function.
> 
> The particle isn't just its point, 
> it is its state.
> 
> This isn't "spooky action at a distance", 
> rather "this".
> 
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wave_function_collapse
> 
> Light:  geometric _and_ "wave" optics.
> 
> So, nature's stochastic, and it will be, now that's the past.
> 
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ray_(quantum_theory)

"Universal time":
  https://arxiv.org/pdf/1302.7291.pdf

versus "two times":
  https://www.researchgate.net/publication/225118163_The_Arrow_of_Time_From_Universe_Time-Asymmetry_to_Local_Irreversible_Processes

versus "local time":
  https://phys.org/news/2012-11-quantum-arrow-babar-asymmetry.html

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