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kenseto <setoken@att.net> writes: >On Monday, December 12, 2016 at 1:00:06 PM UTC-5, Michael Moroney wrote: >> kenseto <setoken@att.net> writes: >> >> >On Monday, December 12, 2016 at 9:20:39 AM UTC-5, Odd Bodkin wrote: >> >> On 12/11/2016 1:34 PM, kenseto wrote: >> >> > I never said that SR didn't depend on an aether......I said that Einstein said that >> >> > the need for an aether is superfluous. >> >> >> >> Those mean the same thing. You cannot read the English language. This is >> >> why you don't read books. >> >> >Hey moron.....Moron-y claimed that I said that SR didn't depend on an aether >> >and I never make such claim. I repeated what Einstein said: the need for an >> >aether is superfluous. Gee you are so fucking stupid. >> >> Saying SR didn't depend on an aether >Moron.... you claimed that I made that claim is wrong. Stupid Ken, you wrote in Message-ID: <ccb618d6-68df-4fe0-960d-9c1674e07f4f@googlegroups.com> : No moron, I didn't imply that relativity doesn't depend on an aether. : Einstein said that the need for an aether is superfluous. So you admit that SR, as written by one A. Einstein, doesn't depend on an aether, since he said as part of it the aether is superfluous. > I claimed the opposite that SR needs an aether. What I said: the > inertial frame of SR is the aether frame because it claims all the > exclusive properties of the aether frame. To clarify, it is not SR that needs an aether. You even admit Einstein said so. It's that huge misunderstanding of SR in your head, which you call SR, but is not SR, that needs an aether. So, to avoid confusion, you need to write from now on: "This massive misunderstanding of SR, which I, Ken Seto, mistakenly call SR, needs an aether because of some alleged properties of the aether frame." Just remember, that theory that claims the alleged exclusive properties of the aether frame is not SR. It's that mess in your head which you call SR, but is not SR. As you know, it cannot be SR because in SR, there are an infinite number of inertial frames, all moving with respect to each other, but "the exclusive properties of the aether frame" means just one frame. How could an infinite number of frames, all moving with respect to each other, all claim "the exclusive properties of the aether frame" yet have DIFFERENT properties (velocity, position)? Oh, just for giggles, show us where Einstein claims the inertial frames "claim the exclusive properties of the aether frame"... >> Odd seems to be right. You can't read English.
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