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Re: Logic, reasoning and SR: how to waste 10 years of your life

From Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Newsgroups sci.physics.relativity
Subject Re: Logic, reasoning and SR: how to waste 10 years of your life
Date 2016-12-05 08:32 -0600
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On 12/4/2016 12:33 PM, kenseto wrote:
> On Friday, December 2, 2016 at 1:25:12 PM UTC-5, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>> On 12/2/2016 12:16 PM, HGWilson, DSc. wrote:
>>> On 03/12/16 01:27, mlwozniak@wp.pl wrote:
>>>> W dniu piątek, 2 grudnia 2016 14:33:09 UTC+1 użytkownik Michael
>>>> Moroney napisał:
>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Anyway, here's to the next 10 years guys!!
>>>>>
>>>>>> Idiot troll! Of course we understand it.
>>>>>
>>>>> No, Ralph, you are definitely one of those who do not understand SR
>>>>> even after 10+ years. For one example, you keep insisting that SR
>>>>> involves an aether even though Einstein explicitly disavowed the
>>>>> aether, he didn't use it, and you yourself just showed it's not
>>>>> needed for constant c
>>>>
>>>> Samely, you are. For instance, you keep insisting this shit is a
>>>> consequence of experiments. And about ether and your idiot guru, he
>>>> said:
>>>>
>>>> Recapitulating, we may say that according to the general theory of
>>>> relativity space is endowed with physical qualities; in this sense,
>>>> therefore, there exists an ether. According to the general theory of
>>>> relativity space without ether is unthinkable; for in such space
>>>> there not only would be no propagation of light, but also no
>>>> possibility of existence for standards of space and time
>>>> (measuring-rods and clocks), nor therefore any space-time intervals
>>>> in the physical sense.
>>
>> Which was followed in the SAME PARAGRAPH by the following:
>> " But this ether may not be thought of as endowed with the quality
>> characteristic of ponderable media, as consisting of parts which may be
>> tracked through time. The idea of motion may not be applied to it."
>
> Einstein is wrong.....the aether is stationary and every object in our
> universe are moving within it. This is shown in the following link:
> http://www.modelmechanics.org/2015experiment.pdf

Whether you agree with Einstein or not is not really of interest. Nobody 
really cares what you think.

What matters is whether what you say about relativity is actually true.
When you say that relativity depended on a luminiferous ether, that is a 
factually untrue statement.

>
>
>
>>
>> But of course, the art of truncating context is the heart of propaganda,
>> isn't it?
>>
>>>
>>> Moron-y and his fellow conspirators shudder and close their eyes
>>> whenever that quote of Einstein's appears. They say he must have been
>>> drugged when he said it. Moron-y has been posting to this NG for many
>>> years and has never once put together an intelligible scientific
>>> sentence. He is obviously a paid lackey of the Grand Conspiracy that is
>>> intent on retaining the unworthy name 'Einstein' as the world's symbol
>>> of genius. No wonder the Irish have been considered such a laughable
>>> race over the centuries!
>>
>> Case in point. And the propagandist is not done....
>>
>>>
>>> Einstein was a devious opportunist who merely plagiarized the theories
>>> of Lorentz and Poincare. His second postulate fundamentally relies on
>>> their 'aether' to achieve the source independence of light speed.
>>> There has never been even ONE believable experiment that supports his
>>> funny little theory.
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Odd Bodkin --- maker of fine toys, tools, tables


-- 
Odd Bodkin --- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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Logic, reasoning and SR: how to waste 10 years of your life paulymiller@gmail.com - 2016-12-01 15:54 -0800
  Re: Logic, reasoning and SR: how to waste 10 years of your life patdolan@comcast.net - 2016-12-01 17:43 -0800
    Re: Logic, reasoning and SR: how to waste 10 years of your life Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-12-02 09:25 -0600
    Re: Logic, reasoning and SR: how to waste 10 years of your life Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-12-02 09:35 -0600
      Re: Logic, reasoning and SR: how to waste 10 years of your life benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2016-12-02 19:36 -0500
        Re: Logic, reasoning and SR: how to waste 10 years of your life Dirk Van de moortel <dirkvandemoortel@hotspam.not> - 2016-12-03 13:14 +0100
        Re: Logic, reasoning and SR: how to waste 10 years of your life Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-12-05 08:29 -0600
  Re: Logic, reasoning and SR: how to waste 10 years of your life Helmut Wabnig <hwabnig@.- --- -.dotat> - 2016-12-02 08:59 +0100
    Re: Logic, reasoning and SR: how to waste 10 years of your life mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-12-02 00:25 -0800
  Re: Logic, reasoning and SR: how to waste 10 years of your life mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-12-02 00:35 -0800
  Re: Logic, reasoning and SR: how to waste 10 years of your life "HGWilson, DSc." <hgw@....> - 2016-12-02 21:01 +1100
    Re: Logic, reasoning and SR: how to waste 10 years of your life moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-12-02 13:33 +0000
      Re: Logic, reasoning and SR: how to waste 10 years of your life mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-12-02 06:27 -0800
        Re: Logic, reasoning and SR: how to waste 10 years of your life "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-12-02 06:41 -0800
        Re: Logic, reasoning and SR: how to waste 10 years of your life "HGWilson, DSc." <hgw@....> - 2016-12-03 05:16 +1100
          Re: Logic, reasoning and SR: how to waste 10 years of your life Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-12-02 12:25 -0600
            Re: Logic, reasoning and SR: how to waste 10 years of your life Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-12-02 12:30 -0600
            Re: Logic, reasoning and SR: how to waste 10 years of your life mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-12-03 03:10 -0800
            Re: Logic, reasoning and SR: how to waste 10 years of your life kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-12-04 10:33 -0800
              Re: Logic, reasoning and SR: how to waste 10 years of your life Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-12-04 15:43 -0800
                Re: Logic, reasoning and SR: how to waste 10 years of your life kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-12-10 09:42 -0800
                Re: Logic, reasoning and SR: how to waste 10 years of your life moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-12-11 02:28 +0000
                Re: Logic, reasoning and SR: how to waste 10 years of your life Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-12-10 19:03 -0800
                Re: Logic, reasoning and SR: how to waste 10 years of your life kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-12-11 06:38 -0800
                Re: Logic, reasoning and SR: how to waste 10 years of your life Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-12-11 07:25 -0800
                Re: Logic, reasoning and SR: how to waste 10 years of your life moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-12-11 16:47 +0000
                Re: Logic, reasoning and SR: how to waste 10 years of your life kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-12-11 11:51 -0800
                Re: Logic, reasoning and SR: how to waste 10 years of your life moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-12-12 03:14 +0000
                Re: Logic, reasoning and SR: how to waste 10 years of your life kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-12-12 06:03 -0800
                Re: Logic, reasoning and SR: how to waste 10 years of your life Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-12-12 08:48 -0600
                Re: Logic, reasoning and SR: how to waste 10 years of your life Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-12-12 16:18 +0100
                Re: Logic, reasoning and SR: how to waste 10 years of your life JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2016-12-13 11:37 -0800
                Re: Logic, reasoning and SR: how to waste 10 years of your life moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-12-13 22:01 +0000
                Re: Logic, reasoning and SR: how to waste 10 years of your life mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-12-14 00:40 -0800
                Re: Logic, reasoning and SR: how to waste 10 years of your life kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-12-14 06:51 -0800
                Re: Logic, reasoning and SR: how to waste 10 years of your life JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2016-12-16 18:45 -0800
                Re: Logic, reasoning and SR: how to waste 10 years of your life kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-12-17 07:04 -0800
                Re: Logic, reasoning and SR: how to waste 10 years of your life moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-12-17 16:44 +0000
                Re: Logic, reasoning and SR: how to waste 10 years of your life kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-12-17 10:58 -0800
                Re: Logic, reasoning and SR: how to waste 10 years of your life Lauretta Nagle <uattea@aeuatte.au> - 2016-12-17 19:03 +0000
                Re: Logic, reasoning and SR: how to waste 10 years of your life kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-12-18 06:20 -0800
                Re: Logic, reasoning and SR: how to waste 10 years of your life "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-12-18 07:53 -0800
                Re: Logic, reasoning and SR: how to waste 10 years of your life Jacquelyn Schiffer <euefhqheeoeeSfaJn@euefhqhee.eeSfaJn.eue> - 2016-12-21 19:52 +0000
                Re: Logic, reasoning and SR: how to waste 10 years of your life "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-12-21 12:00 -0800
                Re: Logic, reasoning and SR: how to waste 10 years of your life moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-12-18 01:57 +0000
                Re: Logic, reasoning and SR: how to waste 10 years of your life kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-12-18 06:30 -0800
                Re: Logic, reasoning and SR: how to waste 10 years of your life moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-12-19 05:08 +0000
                Re: Logic, reasoning and SR: how to waste 10 years of your life mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-12-18 23:10 -0800
                Re: Logic, reasoning and SR: how to waste 10 years of your life Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-12-19 03:33 -0800
                Re: Logic, reasoning and SR: how to waste 10 years of your life mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-12-19 04:08 -0800
                Re: Logic, reasoning and SR: how to waste 10 years of your life Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-12-19 06:58 -0800
                Re: Logic, reasoning and SR: how to waste 10 years of your life mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-12-19 08:22 -0800
                Re: Logic, reasoning and SR: how to waste 10 years of your life moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-12-19 16:38 +0000
                Re: Logic, reasoning and SR: how to waste 10 years of your life mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-12-19 09:04 -0800
                Re: Logic, reasoning and SR: how to waste 10 years of your life Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-12-19 09:46 -0600
                Re: Logic, reasoning and SR: how to waste 10 years of your life moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-12-12 17:55 +0000
                Re: Logic, reasoning and SR: how to waste 10 years of your life kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-12-12 11:34 -0800
                Re: Logic, reasoning and SR: how to waste 10 years of your life Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-12-11 19:21 -0800
              Re: Logic, reasoning and SR: how to waste 10 years of your life "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-12-04 16:23 -0800
              Re: Logic, reasoning and SR: how to waste 10 years of your life Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-12-05 08:32 -0600
                Re: Logic, reasoning and SR: how to waste 10 years of your life "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-12-05 07:03 -0800
                Re: Logic, reasoning and SR: how to waste 10 years of your life kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-12-10 09:39 -0800
                Re: Logic, reasoning and SR: how to waste 10 years of your life Estrella Batey <yeaetl@sryeaet.org> - 2016-12-10 18:43 +0000
                Re: Logic, reasoning and SR: how to waste 10 years of your life alsor@interia.pl - 2016-12-10 11:24 -0800
                Re: Logic, reasoning and SR: how to waste 10 years of your life Lauretta Nagle <uattea@aeuatte.au> - 2016-12-16 19:27 +0000
                Re: Logic, reasoning and SR: how to waste 10 years of your life alsor@interia.pl - 2016-12-16 12:24 -0800
                Re: Logic, reasoning and SR: how to waste 10 years of your life moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-12-11 02:52 +0000
                Re: Logic, reasoning and SR: how to waste 10 years of your life kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-12-11 06:52 -0800
                Re: Logic, reasoning and SR: how to waste 10 years of your life moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-12-11 16:56 +0000
                Re: Logic, reasoning and SR: how to waste 10 years of your life kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-12-11 11:34 -0800
                Re: Logic, reasoning and SR: how to waste 10 years of your life Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-12-12 08:20 -0600
                Re: Logic, reasoning and SR: how to waste 10 years of your life kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-12-12 07:37 -0800
                Re: Logic, reasoning and SR: how to waste 10 years of your life Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-12-12 10:30 -0600
                Re: Logic, reasoning and SR: how to waste 10 years of your life moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-12-12 18:00 +0000
                Re: Logic, reasoning and SR: how to waste 10 years of your life kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-12-12 11:49 -0800
                Re: Logic, reasoning and SR: how to waste 10 years of your life Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-12-12 12:09 -0800
                Re: Logic, reasoning and SR: how to waste 10 years of your life kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-12-13 05:33 -0800
                Re: Logic, reasoning and SR: how to waste 10 years of your life moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-12-13 13:09 +0000
                Re: Logic, reasoning and SR: how to waste 10 years of your life kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-12-13 05:47 -0800
                Re: Logic, reasoning and SR: how to waste 10 years of your life moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-12-13 15:51 +0000
                Re: Logic, reasoning and SR: how to waste 10 years of your life kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-12-13 12:20 -0800
                Re: Logic, reasoning and SR: how to waste 10 years of your life moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-12-13 22:18 +0000
                Re: Logic, reasoning and SR: how to waste 10 years of your life kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-12-14 07:01 -0800
                Re: Logic, reasoning and SR: how to waste 10 years of your life Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-12-11 16:56 -0600
                Re: Logic, reasoning and SR: how to waste 10 years of your life moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-12-12 03:27 +0000
                Re: Logic, reasoning and SR: how to waste 10 years of your life Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-12-12 08:38 -0600
          Re: Logic, reasoning and SR: how to waste 10 years of your life moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-12-04 06:12 +0000
          Re: Logic, reasoning and SR: how to waste 10 years of your life JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2016-12-13 11:35 -0800
            Re: Logic, reasoning and SR: how to waste 10 years of your life moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-12-13 21:57 +0000
              Re: Logic, reasoning and SR: how to waste 10 years of your life mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-12-14 01:32 -0800
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