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Re: Slow clock transport and the measurement of one way light speed.

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From	moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney)
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Subject	Re: Slow clock transport and the measurement of one way light speed.
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kenseto <setoken@att.net> writes:

>On Thursday, August 11, 2016 at 1:31:32 PM UTC-4, tjrob137 wrote:
>> 
>> It has long been possible to take two commercial atomic clocks, synchronize them 
>> together, put one in a car and drive around for a few hours (at constant 
>> altitude), bring it back to the other, and SEE the difference they display.

>Right, but this does not mean time dilation. It means that the traveling 
>clock second have a longer duration than the stay at home clock second. 
>In other word, a clock second in different frame is not a universal 
>interval of time.

No, this is a version of the traveling twin problem.  The clock in the
car is the traveling twin.  It will see less elapsed time than the
stationary clock.

>For example the GPS second is redefined to have 4.4647 more periods of 
>Cs 133 radiation than the ground clock second. This is designed to make 
>the passage of a redefined GPS second corresponds to the passage of a 
>ground clock second.

You have been told many times that this is wrong. Why do you keep 
repeating this mistake?

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Slow clock transport and the measurement of one way light speed. Larry Harson <johnmcandrew66@gmail.com> - 2016-08-03 11:07 -0700
Re: Slow clock transport and the measurement of one way light speed. rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2016-08-03 11:22 -0700
Re: Slow clock transport and the measurement of one way light speed. dlzc <dlzc1@cox.net> - 2016-08-03 12:21 -0700
Re: Slow clock transport and the measurement of one way light speed. Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-08-03 14:46 -0500
Re: Slow clock transport and the measurement of one way light speed. "HGWilson, DSc." <hgw@....> - 2016-08-11 06:55 +1000
Re: Slow clock transport and the measurement of one way light speed. JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2016-08-10 16:18 -0700
Re: Slow clock transport and the measurement of one way light speed. "HGW." <hw@....> - 2016-08-11 10:52 +1000
Re: Slow clock transport and the measurement of one way light speed. JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2016-08-10 19:11 -0700
Re: Slow clock transport and the measurement of one way light speed. Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-08-11 12:31 -0500
Re: Slow clock transport and the measurement of one way light speed. Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-08-11 19:41 +0200
Re: Slow clock transport and the measurement of one way light speed. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-08-11 17:02 -0700
Re: Slow clock transport and the measurement of one way light speed. mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-08-11 23:33 -0700
Re: Slow clock transport and the measurement of one way light speed. Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-08-12 04:18 -0700
Re: Slow clock transport and the measurement of one way light speed. JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2016-08-12 11:45 -0700
Re: Slow clock transport and the measurement of one way light speed. Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-08-12 21:19 +0200
Re: Slow clock transport and the measurement of one way light speed. JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2016-08-12 14:55 -0700
Re: Slow clock transport and the measurement of one way light speed. Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-08-13 15:10 +0200
Re: Slow clock transport and the measurement of one way light speed. paparios <paparios@gmail.com> - 2016-08-13 06:27 -0700
Re: Slow clock transport and the measurement of one way light speed. Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-08-15 13:54 +0200
Re: Slow clock transport and the measurement of one way light speed. JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2016-08-13 11:37 -0700
Re: Slow clock transport and the measurement of one way light speed. Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-08-15 14:00 +0200
Re: Slow clock transport and the measurement of one way light speed. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-08-15 12:27 -0700
Re: Slow clock transport and the measurement of one way light speed. kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-08-13 08:06 -0700
Re: Slow clock transport and the measurement of one way light speed. moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-08-13 17:33 +0000
Re: Slow clock transport and the measurement of one way light speed. kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-08-13 12:28 -0700
Re: Slow clock transport and the measurement of one way light speed. Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-08-13 13:15 -0700
Re: Slow clock transport and the measurement of one way light speed. kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-08-14 07:56 -0700
Re: Slow clock transport and the measurement of one way light speed. Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-08-14 08:34 -0700
Re: Slow clock transport and the measurement of one way light speed. kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-08-14 11:08 -0700
Re: Slow clock transport and the measurement of one way light speed. Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-08-14 15:50 -0700
Re: Slow clock transport and the measurement of one way light speed. Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-08-15 14:02 +0200
Re: Slow clock transport and the measurement of one way light speed. Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-08-15 05:50 -0700
Re: Slow clock transport and the measurement of one way light speed. Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-08-15 15:20 +0200
Re: Slow clock transport and the measurement of one way light speed. "HGWilson, DSc." <hgw@....> - 2016-08-14 06:28 +1000
Re: Slow clock transport and the measurement of one way light speed. rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2016-08-13 13:54 -0700
Re: Slow clock transport and the measurement of one way light speed. "HGWilson, DSc." <hgw@....> - 2016-08-14 07:13 +1000
Re: Slow clock transport and the measurement of one way light speed. rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2016-08-13 14:50 -0700
Re: Slow clock transport and the measurement of one way light speed. "HGWilson, DSc." <hgw@....> - 2016-08-14 20:08 +1000
Re: Slow clock transport and the measurement of one way light speed. rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2016-08-14 07:14 -0700
Re: Slow clock transport and the measurement of one way light speed. "HGWilson, DSc." <hgw@....> - 2016-08-15 05:09 +1000
Re: Slow clock transport and the measurement of one way light speed. rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2016-08-14 16:29 -0700
Re: Slow clock transport and the measurement of one way light speed. "HGWilson, DSc." <hgw@....> - 2016-08-16 05:32 +1000
Re: Slow clock transport and the measurement of one way light speed. moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-08-14 00:23 +0000
Re: Slow clock transport and the measurement of one way light speed. "HGWilson, DSc." <hgw@....> - 2016-08-14 20:12 +1000
Re: Slow clock transport and the measurement of one way light speed. moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-08-14 23:13 +0000
Re: Slow clock transport and the measurement of one way light speed. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-08-14 12:43 -0700
Re: Slow clock transport and the measurement of one way light speed. "HGWilson, DSc." <hgw@....> - 2016-08-16 05:35 +1000
Re: Slow clock transport and the measurement of one way light speed. astrofoton@interia.pl - 2016-08-16 11:24 -0700
Re: Slow clock transport and the measurement of one way light speed. "HGW." <hw@....> - 2016-08-17 08:51 +1000
Re: Slow clock transport and the measurement of one way light speed. astrofoton@interia.pl - 2016-08-26 08:36 -0700
Re: Slow clock transport and the measurement of one way light speed. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-08-17 11:49 -0700
Re: Slow clock transport and the measurement of one way light speed. Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-08-17 14:15 -0700
Re: Slow clock transport and the measurement of one way light speed. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-08-17 21:54 -0700
Re: Slow clock transport and the measurement of one way light speed. Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-08-18 02:58 -0700
Re: Slow clock transport and the measurement of one way light speed. mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-08-18 03:10 -0700
Re: Slow clock transport and the measurement of one way light speed. Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-08-18 03:54 -0700
Re: Slow clock transport and the measurement of one way light speed. mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-08-18 04:07 -0700
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Re: Slow clock transport and the measurement of one way light speed. mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-08-18 05:22 -0700
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Re: Slow clock transport and the measurement of one way light speed. mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-08-18 23:33 -0700
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Re: Slow clock transport and the measurement of one way light speed. mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-08-19 05:01 -0700
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Re: Slow clock transport and the measurement of one way light speed. mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-08-22 06:38 -0700
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Re: Slow clock transport and the measurement of one way light speed. Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-08-15 13:59 +0200
Re: Slow clock transport and the measurement of one way light speed. rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2016-08-11 19:22 -0700
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Re: Slow clock transport and the measurement of one way light speed. rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2016-08-12 14:11 -0700
Re: Slow clock transport and the measurement of one way light speed. "HGWilson, DSc." <hgw@....> - 2016-08-13 08:58 +1000
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Re: Slow clock transport and the measurement of one way light speed. "HGWilson, DSc." <hgw@....> - 2016-08-13 09:58 +1000
Re: Slow clock transport and the measurement of one way light speed. rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2016-08-12 17:15 -0700
Re: Slow clock transport and the measurement of one way light speed. "HGWilson, DSc." <hgw@....> - 2016-08-14 06:21 +1000
Re: Slow clock transport and the measurement of one way light speed. rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2016-08-13 13:48 -0700
Re: Slow clock transport and the measurement of one way light speed. "HGWilson, DSc." <hgw@....> - 2016-08-14 07:16 +1000
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Re: Slow clock transport and the measurement of one way light speed. dlzc <dlzc1@cox.net> - 2016-08-03 16:04 -0700
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Re: Slow clock transport and the measurement of one way light speed. astrofoton@interia.pl - 2016-08-13 14:25 -0700
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