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| Date | 2016-08-03 11:22 -0700 |
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| Subject | Re: Slow clock transport and the measurement of one way light speed. |
| From | rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> |
On Wednesday, August 3, 2016 at 2:07:18 PM UTC-4, Larry Harson wrote: > I'm using slow clock transport to keep time dilation negligible so the > clocks remains synchronized with one another within experimental error. Ok. Notice however, this will maintain e-synch. The distant clocks will not be "absolutely" synched. > > Note that your exp is essentially a TWLS exp. > > That's not my intention. I said that in the sense that since you had the moving clocks coming back to the origin (as I understood it) then ...it came back. That made your setup a TWLS; you went both ways. But irrelevant now, since in your explanation below, it doesnt come back. Ok... > The clock at the origin transmits a pulse at its local time t1 > to the clock at +L. The clock at +L records a local time t2 when > it receives it. Remembering the clocks are synchronized via slow > clock transport, the one-way light speed here is therefore L/(t2-t1). Yes, you can define OWLS that way (there are two common & different meanings for OWLS). But how is L measured (in SR)? By sending a lightpulse from 0 to L and back to 0. That makes it a TWLS. All OWLS, as interpreted by SR, used somewhere a returning signal. In that sense, its not an OWLS but a TWLS. Also, from the pov of LET, as I stated above, the distant clocks will not be 'absolutely' synched, but rather e-synched: In all cases (Tangherlini theory) you will get L/(t2-t1).
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Slow clock transport and the measurement of one way light speed. Larry Harson <johnmcandrew66@gmail.com> - 2016-08-03 11:07 -0700
Re: Slow clock transport and the measurement of one way light speed. rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2016-08-03 11:22 -0700
Re: Slow clock transport and the measurement of one way light speed. dlzc <dlzc1@cox.net> - 2016-08-03 12:21 -0700
Re: Slow clock transport and the measurement of one way light speed. Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-08-03 14:46 -0500
Re: Slow clock transport and the measurement of one way light speed. "HGWilson, DSc." <hgw@....> - 2016-08-11 06:55 +1000
Re: Slow clock transport and the measurement of one way light speed. JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2016-08-10 16:18 -0700
Re: Slow clock transport and the measurement of one way light speed. "HGW." <hw@....> - 2016-08-11 10:52 +1000
Re: Slow clock transport and the measurement of one way light speed. JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2016-08-10 19:11 -0700
Re: Slow clock transport and the measurement of one way light speed. Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-08-11 12:31 -0500
Re: Slow clock transport and the measurement of one way light speed. Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-08-11 19:41 +0200
Re: Slow clock transport and the measurement of one way light speed. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-08-11 17:02 -0700
Re: Slow clock transport and the measurement of one way light speed. mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-08-11 23:33 -0700
Re: Slow clock transport and the measurement of one way light speed. Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-08-12 04:18 -0700
Re: Slow clock transport and the measurement of one way light speed. JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2016-08-12 11:45 -0700
Re: Slow clock transport and the measurement of one way light speed. Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-08-12 21:19 +0200
Re: Slow clock transport and the measurement of one way light speed. JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2016-08-12 14:55 -0700
Re: Slow clock transport and the measurement of one way light speed. Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-08-13 15:10 +0200
Re: Slow clock transport and the measurement of one way light speed. paparios <paparios@gmail.com> - 2016-08-13 06:27 -0700
Re: Slow clock transport and the measurement of one way light speed. JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2016-08-13 11:37 -0700
Re: Slow clock transport and the measurement of one way light speed. kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-08-13 08:06 -0700
Re: Slow clock transport and the measurement of one way light speed. moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-08-13 17:33 +0000
Re: Slow clock transport and the measurement of one way light speed. kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-08-13 12:28 -0700
Re: Slow clock transport and the measurement of one way light speed. Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-08-13 13:15 -0700
Re: Slow clock transport and the measurement of one way light speed. kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-08-14 07:56 -0700
Re: Slow clock transport and the measurement of one way light speed. Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-08-14 08:34 -0700
Re: Slow clock transport and the measurement of one way light speed. kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-08-14 11:08 -0700
Re: Slow clock transport and the measurement of one way light speed. Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-08-14 15:50 -0700
Re: Slow clock transport and the measurement of one way light speed. "HGWilson, DSc." <hgw@....> - 2016-08-14 06:28 +1000
Re: Slow clock transport and the measurement of one way light speed. rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2016-08-13 13:54 -0700
Re: Slow clock transport and the measurement of one way light speed. "HGWilson, DSc." <hgw@....> - 2016-08-14 07:13 +1000
Re: Slow clock transport and the measurement of one way light speed. rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2016-08-13 14:50 -0700
Re: Slow clock transport and the measurement of one way light speed. "HGWilson, DSc." <hgw@....> - 2016-08-14 20:08 +1000
Re: Slow clock transport and the measurement of one way light speed. rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2016-08-14 07:14 -0700
Re: Slow clock transport and the measurement of one way light speed. "HGWilson, DSc." <hgw@....> - 2016-08-15 05:09 +1000
Re: Slow clock transport and the measurement of one way light speed. moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-08-14 00:23 +0000
Re: Slow clock transport and the measurement of one way light speed. "HGWilson, DSc." <hgw@....> - 2016-08-14 20:12 +1000
Re: Slow clock transport and the measurement of one way light speed. moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-08-14 23:13 +0000
Re: Slow clock transport and the measurement of one way light speed. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-08-14 12:43 -0700
Re: Slow clock transport and the measurement of one way light speed. rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2016-08-11 19:22 -0700
Re: Slow clock transport and the measurement of one way light speed. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-08-12 12:52 -0700
Re: Slow clock transport and the measurement of one way light speed. Virgil <VIRGIL@VIRGIL.com> - 2016-08-12 13:56 -0600
Re: Slow clock transport and the measurement of one way light speed. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-08-12 13:37 -0700
Re: Slow clock transport and the measurement of one way light speed. Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-08-12 22:39 +0200
Re: Slow clock transport and the measurement of one way light speed. rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2016-08-12 14:11 -0700
Re: Slow clock transport and the measurement of one way light speed. "HGWilson, DSc." <hgw@....> - 2016-08-13 08:58 +1000
Re: Slow clock transport and the measurement of one way light speed. rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2016-08-12 16:35 -0700
Re: Slow clock transport and the measurement of one way light speed. "HGWilson, DSc." <hgw@....> - 2016-08-13 09:58 +1000
Re: Slow clock transport and the measurement of one way light speed. rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2016-08-12 17:15 -0700
Re: Slow clock transport and the measurement of one way light speed. "HGWilson, DSc." <hgw@....> - 2016-08-14 06:21 +1000
Re: Slow clock transport and the measurement of one way light speed. rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2016-08-13 13:48 -0700
Re: Slow clock transport and the measurement of one way light speed. "HGWilson, DSc." <hgw@....> - 2016-08-14 07:16 +1000
Re: Slow clock transport and the measurement of one way light speed. larry harson <larryharson66@gmail.com> - 2016-08-03 13:12 -0700
Re: Slow clock transport and the measurement of one way light speed. rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2016-08-03 14:00 -0700
Re: Slow clock transport and the measurement of one way light speed. larry harson <larryharson66@gmail.com> - 2016-08-03 15:01 -0700
Re: Slow clock transport and the measurement of one way light speed. dlzc <dlzc1@cox.net> - 2016-08-03 16:04 -0700
Re: Slow clock transport and the measurement of one way light speed. rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2016-08-03 18:35 -0700
Re: Slow clock transport and the measurement of one way light speed. astrofoton@interia.pl - 2016-08-13 14:25 -0700
Re: Slow clock transport and the measurement of one way light speed. rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2016-08-13 15:01 -0700
Re: Slow clock transport and the measurement of one way light speed. astrofoton@interia.pl - 2016-08-13 16:29 -0700
Re: Slow clock transport and the measurement of one way light speed. rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2016-08-13 17:10 -0700
Re: Slow clock transport and the measurement of one way light speed. astrofoton@interia.pl - 2016-08-14 13:05 -0700
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