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Re: Slow clock transport and the measurement of one way light speed.

From "HGW." <hw@....>
Newsgroups sci.physics.relativity
Subject Re: Slow clock transport and the measurement of one way light speed.
Date 2016-08-11 10:52 +1000
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On 11/08/16 09:18, JanPB wrote:
> On Wednesday, August 10, 2016 at 1:55:45 PM UTC-7, HGWilson, DSc. wrote:

>>>
>>> "FTL syncing" cannot possibly change the fact that the world we inhabit
>>> does not have "absolute clock synchronization". That is, clocks at rest
>>> in different inertial frames to not remain in sync with each other, no
>>> matter how you set them.
>>
>> HahhahhahhahahhHAHAHHHAHAHHHAHA!
>>
>> Tom's world: If one makes OWLS always equal to c by definition, then any
>> pair of clocks that does not measure it be c must be out of synch...!!!
>
> No, that's not how it works. Relativity is NOT about mere redefining
> of synchronisation through some other assumptions (like the constancy of c or
> whatever).
>
> It's about accounting for _experimental results_ from all domains of
> current experimental physics. It turns out the constancy of c implies
> a model that's consistent with all these experimental results.

hahahhhahhahhahHAHAHHAHAHH! What an idiot! There are no such experiments.

> Clock synchronisation is actually not needed for setting up the relativity
> model, it's just convenience (using coordinates is convenient in general).
> What really makes relativity go is the way elapsed times of different
> clocks are related. The concept of synchronism is not needed.

Clocks synched together are absolutely synched. Move them apart any way 
you like and they remain in absolute synch. There is no aether. 
Einstein's plagiarized LET collapses.



> Jan
>


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Slow clock transport and the measurement of one way light speed. Larry Harson <johnmcandrew66@gmail.com> - 2016-08-03 11:07 -0700
  Re: Slow clock transport and the measurement of one way light speed. rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2016-08-03 11:22 -0700
    Re: Slow clock transport and the measurement of one way light speed. dlzc <dlzc1@cox.net> - 2016-08-03 12:21 -0700
      Re: Slow clock transport and the measurement of one way light speed. Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-08-03 14:46 -0500
        Re: Slow clock transport and the measurement of one way light speed. "HGWilson, DSc." <hgw@....> - 2016-08-11 06:55 +1000
          Re: Slow clock transport and the measurement of one way light speed. JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2016-08-10 16:18 -0700
            Re: Slow clock transport and the measurement of one way light speed. "HGW." <hw@....> - 2016-08-11 10:52 +1000
              Re: Slow clock transport and the measurement of one way light speed. JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2016-08-10 19:11 -0700
              Re: Slow clock transport and the measurement of one way light speed. Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-08-11 12:31 -0500
                Re: Slow clock transport and the measurement of one way light speed. Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-08-11 19:41 +0200
                Re: Slow clock transport and the measurement of one way light speed. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-08-11 17:02 -0700
                Re: Slow clock transport and the measurement of one way light speed. mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-08-11 23:33 -0700
                Re: Slow clock transport and the measurement of one way light speed. Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-08-12 04:18 -0700
                Re: Slow clock transport and the measurement of one way light speed. JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2016-08-12 11:45 -0700
                Re: Slow clock transport and the measurement of one way light speed. Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-08-12 21:19 +0200
                Re: Slow clock transport and the measurement of one way light speed. JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2016-08-12 14:55 -0700
                Re: Slow clock transport and the measurement of one way light speed. Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-08-13 15:10 +0200
                Re: Slow clock transport and the measurement of one way light speed. paparios <paparios@gmail.com> - 2016-08-13 06:27 -0700
                Re: Slow clock transport and the measurement of one way light speed. Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-08-15 13:54 +0200
                Re: Slow clock transport and the measurement of one way light speed. JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2016-08-13 11:37 -0700
                Re: Slow clock transport and the measurement of one way light speed. Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-08-15 14:00 +0200
                Re: Slow clock transport and the measurement of one way light speed. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-08-15 12:27 -0700
                Re: Slow clock transport and the measurement of one way light speed. kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-08-13 08:06 -0700
                Re: Slow clock transport and the measurement of one way light speed. moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-08-13 17:33 +0000
                Re: Slow clock transport and the measurement of one way light speed. kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-08-13 12:28 -0700
                Re: Slow clock transport and the measurement of one way light speed. Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-08-13 13:15 -0700
                Re: Slow clock transport and the measurement of one way light speed. kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-08-14 07:56 -0700
                Re: Slow clock transport and the measurement of one way light speed. Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-08-14 08:34 -0700
                Re: Slow clock transport and the measurement of one way light speed. kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-08-14 11:08 -0700
                Re: Slow clock transport and the measurement of one way light speed. Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-08-14 15:50 -0700
                Re: Slow clock transport and the measurement of one way light speed. Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-08-15 14:02 +0200
                Re: Slow clock transport and the measurement of one way light speed. Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-08-15 05:50 -0700
                Re: Slow clock transport and the measurement of one way light speed. Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-08-15 15:20 +0200
                Re: Slow clock transport and the measurement of one way light speed. "HGWilson, DSc." <hgw@....> - 2016-08-14 06:28 +1000
                Re: Slow clock transport and the measurement of one way light speed. rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2016-08-13 13:54 -0700
                Re: Slow clock transport and the measurement of one way light speed. "HGWilson, DSc." <hgw@....> - 2016-08-14 07:13 +1000
                Re: Slow clock transport and the measurement of one way light speed. rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2016-08-13 14:50 -0700
                Re: Slow clock transport and the measurement of one way light speed. "HGWilson, DSc." <hgw@....> - 2016-08-14 20:08 +1000
                Re: Slow clock transport and the measurement of one way light speed. rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2016-08-14 07:14 -0700
                Re: Slow clock transport and the measurement of one way light speed. "HGWilson, DSc." <hgw@....> - 2016-08-15 05:09 +1000
                Re: Slow clock transport and the measurement of one way light speed. rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2016-08-14 16:29 -0700
                Re: Slow clock transport and the measurement of one way light speed. "HGWilson, DSc." <hgw@....> - 2016-08-16 05:32 +1000
                Re: Slow clock transport and the measurement of one way light speed. moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-08-14 00:23 +0000
                Re: Slow clock transport and the measurement of one way light speed. "HGWilson, DSc." <hgw@....> - 2016-08-14 20:12 +1000
                Re: Slow clock transport and the measurement of one way light speed. moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-08-14 23:13 +0000
                Re: Slow clock transport and the measurement of one way light speed. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-08-14 12:43 -0700
                Re: Slow clock transport and the measurement of one way light speed. "HGWilson, DSc." <hgw@....> - 2016-08-16 05:35 +1000
                Re: Slow clock transport and the measurement of one way light speed. astrofoton@interia.pl - 2016-08-16 11:24 -0700
                Re: Slow clock transport and the measurement of one way light speed. "HGW." <hw@....> - 2016-08-17 08:51 +1000
                Re: Slow clock transport and the measurement of one way light speed. astrofoton@interia.pl - 2016-08-26 08:36 -0700
                Re: Slow clock transport and the measurement of one way light speed. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-08-17 11:49 -0700
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                Re: Slow clock transport and the measurement of one way light speed. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-08-17 21:54 -0700
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                Re: Slow clock transport and the measurement of one way light speed. mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-08-18 03:10 -0700
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                Re: Slow clock transport and the measurement of one way light speed. Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-08-19 04:25 -0700
                Re: Slow clock transport and the measurement of one way light speed. mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-08-19 05:01 -0700
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                Re: Slow clock transport and the measurement of one way light speed. Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-08-21 12:03 +0200
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                Re: Slow clock transport and the measurement of one way light speed. Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-08-21 18:43 +0200
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                Re: Slow clock transport and the measurement of one way light speed. mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-08-21 23:27 -0700
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                Re: Slow clock transport and the measurement of one way light speed. mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-08-22 06:38 -0700
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              Re: Slow clock transport and the measurement of one way light speed. rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2016-08-11 19:22 -0700
                Re: Slow clock transport and the measurement of one way light speed. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-08-12 12:52 -0700
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                Re: Slow clock transport and the measurement of one way light speed. rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2016-08-12 14:11 -0700
                Re: Slow clock transport and the measurement of one way light speed. "HGWilson, DSc." <hgw@....> - 2016-08-13 08:58 +1000
                Re: Slow clock transport and the measurement of one way light speed. rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2016-08-12 16:35 -0700
                Re: Slow clock transport and the measurement of one way light speed. "HGWilson, DSc." <hgw@....> - 2016-08-13 09:58 +1000
                Re: Slow clock transport and the measurement of one way light speed. rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2016-08-12 17:15 -0700
                Re: Slow clock transport and the measurement of one way light speed. "HGWilson, DSc." <hgw@....> - 2016-08-14 06:21 +1000
                Re: Slow clock transport and the measurement of one way light speed. rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2016-08-13 13:48 -0700
                Re: Slow clock transport and the measurement of one way light speed. "HGWilson, DSc." <hgw@....> - 2016-08-14 07:16 +1000
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      Re: Slow clock transport and the measurement of one way light speed. rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2016-08-03 14:00 -0700
        Re: Slow clock transport and the measurement of one way light speed. larry harson <larryharson66@gmail.com> - 2016-08-03 15:01 -0700
          Re: Slow clock transport and the measurement of one way light speed. dlzc <dlzc1@cox.net> - 2016-08-03 16:04 -0700
          Re: Slow clock transport and the measurement of one way light speed. rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2016-08-03 18:35 -0700
  Re: Slow clock transport and the measurement of one way light speed. astrofoton@interia.pl - 2016-08-13 14:25 -0700
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      Re: Slow clock transport and the measurement of one way light speed. astrofoton@interia.pl - 2016-08-13 16:29 -0700
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