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| From | Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | sci.physics.relativity |
| Subject | Re: LIGO experiment seen gravitational waves? |
| Date | 2015-10-29 19:33 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <d9f743Fgi5mU1@mid.individual.net> (permalink) |
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Am 29.10.2015 12:29, schrieb Gary Harnagel: >>> Now it sounds like you subscribe to tachyons. >> >> ??? >> >> I assume, the so called 'Standard model' of QM is wrong. In other words: >> I think, the 'particle concept' is wrong - what would include tachyons. > > Indeed, the point particle model has to be wrong because points do not > exist in the real world, but the point particle approximation is useful, > and string theory is an attempt to remove that objection. > >> My own 'theory' assumes, that particles are 'structures' of /in >> spacetime - what is assumed to behave like a background. >> >> Look here: >> >> https://docs.google.com/present/view?id=dd8jz2tx_3gfzvqgd6 > > Inventing new words is not a good sign. I can see you spent a lot of > time on this, but assuming point-like elements is anathema. > ... The main idea about how to connect GR to QM is this: take spacetime and build particles out of it. I do it by assuming, that spacetime has certain features and points are not just coordinates. Any point has a certain state and these states move. Now I describe a state with a pointer, which can move. If these pointers build identifiable timelike stable patterns, this is, what we call matter. So matter is not 'real', but a state of this background. And 'Growing Earth' would suggest, this assumption is in fact true. Other possibility to prove this idea: a sealed cube of transparent plastic should build dust inside, if it is put into a chamber with strong pulsed microwaves. >>> >>> That looks like word salad to me. >> >> >> Yes, that's no wonder, since I know my own idea and you don't. >> >> But -fortunately - I have written that idea down and made a lot of nice >> illustrations, to enable you (and others) to understand, what I had in mind. >> >> TH > > I read as far as I could stand it. It is all Greek to me and looks like > pure crackpottery. Sorry, but I have to be honest about it. OK. I recommend someone with a similar concept. that is a physics professor from Liverpool and named Peter Rowlands. His book is called 'From Zero to Infinity'. The idea is roughly the same. But I have found it a lot after I have finished my 'book'. He can explain the subject much better and - of course- has a much higher reputation, since he is a professor of physics. TH
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