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Re: What modern physics is really about, from a woodworker's view

From The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Newsgroups sci.physics, sci.physics.relativity
Subject Re: What modern physics is really about, from a woodworker's view
Date 2017-08-28 12:22 -0700
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Thomas Heger wrote:
> 
> Am 26.08.2017 um 00:28 schrieb Odd Bodkin:
> > I'm aware that there are a number of people on this group who are not
> > even comfortable with the concepts of 19th century physics, let alone
> > 20th century physics, and these people prefer to just speculate and
> > argue about what "feels right" to them, justified or not.
> >
> > I'm aware that there are a number of people on this group who think 19th
> > century physics (the "classical" physics of Newton and Kelvin and
> > Maxwell) is still the best model, and that physics went astray with
> > relativity and quantum mechanics and basically anything that says
> > classical physics is off a bit.
> >
> > But what's interesting to me is that, with some of the reading that I've
> > done over the last decade, even the "modern physics" of the 20th century
> > has been left behind for newer and much different ideas.
> >
> > Even in the "modern physics" paradigm, amateurs are prone to think of
> > physics as being about things (objects, particles, material things)
> > moving around in a backdrop of space and time, where their behaviors are
> > controlled by certain laws of physics (like conservation of momentum or
> > Gauss' law) and by certain interactions mediated by other "things"
> > (gauge bosons, for example).
> >
> > But the real picture of the 21st century is far stranger, and amateurs
> > may not be fully aware of it.
> >
> > In a very brief nutshell, all "things" have been replaced by fields
> > which extend over ALL space and time. They don't live IN space and time
> > like you imagine particles or ping pong balls. They are part of the
> > fabric OF space and time.
> >
> > There are ripples in these fields, which have behavior constrained by
> > symmetries of nature, which are more fundamental in a deep sense than
> > the conservation laws of nature.
> >
> 
> Well, I do in fact agree upon most parts. But I am an amateur and have
> written about , what you think, that amateurs are unable to understand.
> 
> It's mainly my own invention, (thou influenced by a couple of people).
> 
> I call it 'structured spacetime' and you can read about it here:
> 
> https://docs.google.com/present/view?id=dd8jz2tx_3gfzvqgd6
> 
> I have written this 'book' about eight years ago and have since then
> tried to find some audience for my idea. Didn't really work. But I still
> think, the concept is correct.
> 
> TH


The Big Dipper and the little dipper is an example of...'structured spacetime'.

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What modern physics is really about, from a woodworker's view Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-25 17:28 -0500
  Re: What modern physics is really about, from a woodworker's view numbernumber1964@gmail.com - 2017-08-25 15:42 -0700
  Re: What modern physics is really about, from a woodworker's view Serg io <invalid@invalid.com> - 2017-08-25 19:17 -0500
    Re: What modern physics is really about, from a woodworker's view benj <nobody@yahoo.com> - 2017-08-26 01:50 -0400
      Re: What modern physics is really about, from a woodworker's view Serg io <invalid@invalid.com> - 2017-08-26 09:07 -0500
        Re: What modern physics is really about, from a woodworker's view Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-08-26 08:03 -0700
        Re: What modern physics is really about, from a woodworker's view Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-26 10:43 -0500
          Re: What modern physics is really about, from a woodworker's view mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-08-26 09:13 -0700
          Re: What modern physics is really about, from a woodworker's view Serg io <invalid@invalid.com> - 2017-08-26 11:26 -0500
            Re: What modern physics is really about, from a woodworker's view benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-08-26 17:43 -0400
              Re: What modern physics is really about, from a woodworker's view Serg io <invalid@invalid.com> - 2017-08-27 11:41 -0500
                Re: What modern physics is really about, from a woodworker's view benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-08-28 16:23 -0400
          Re: What modern physics is really about, from a woodworker's view benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-08-26 17:35 -0400
        Re: What modern physics is really about, from a woodworker's view benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-08-26 17:31 -0400
          Re: What modern physics is really about, from a woodworker's view Serg io <invalid@invalid.com> - 2017-08-26 17:01 -0500
            Re: What modern physics is really about, from a woodworker's view benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-08-26 18:53 -0400
              Re: What modern physics is really about, from a woodworker's view Serg io <invalid@invalid.com> - 2017-08-27 10:20 -0500
                Re: What modern physics is really about, from a woodworker's view benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-08-28 16:21 -0400
          Re: What modern physics is really about, from a woodworker's view mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-08-26 22:52 -0700
  Re: What modern physics is really about, from a woodworker's view mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-08-25 23:51 -0700
  Re: What modern physics is really about, from a woodworker's view Bídníkùm Laterá <bila@wehia.ui> - 2017-08-26 12:00 +0000
  Re: What modern physics is really about, from a woodworker's view moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-08-26 16:19 +0000
    Re: What modern physics is really about, from a woodworker's view Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-26 14:25 -0500
      Re: What modern physics is really about, from a woodworker's view mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-08-26 13:38 -0700
  Re: What modern physics is really about, from a woodworker's view dancouriann@gmail.com - 2017-08-26 13:01 -0700
    Re: What modern physics is really about, from a woodworker's view Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-26 15:23 -0500
      Re: What modern physics is really about, from a woodworker's view dancouriann@gmail.com - 2017-08-27 00:00 -0700
        Re: What modern physics is really about, from a woodworker's view Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-27 16:59 -0500
          Re: What modern physics is really about, from a woodworker's view The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-08-28 10:55 -0700
            Re: What modern physics is really about, from a woodworker's view Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-08-28 11:09 -0700
      Re: What modern physics is really about, from a woodworker's view Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2017-08-27 01:33 -0700
  Re: What modern physics is really about, from a woodworker's view numbernumber1964@gmail.com - 2017-08-26 14:43 -0700
  Re: What modern physics is really about, from a woodworker's view The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-08-26 15:57 -0700
    Re: What modern physics is really about, from a woodworker's view The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-08-26 17:08 -0700
      Re: What modern physics is really about, from a woodworker's view The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-08-26 18:00 -0700
        Re: What modern physics is really about, from a woodworker's view The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-08-26 19:15 -0700
  Re: What modern physics is really about, from a woodworker's view Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2017-08-28 21:11 +0200
    Re: What modern physics is really about, from a woodworker's view The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-08-28 12:22 -0700
      Re: What modern physics is really about, from a woodworker's view Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2017-08-28 21:49 +0200
        Re: What modern physics is really about, from a woodworker's view The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-08-28 23:43 -0700
          Re: What modern physics is really about, from a woodworker's view Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2017-08-29 16:01 +0200
            Re: What modern physics is really about, from a woodworker's view The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-08-29 10:42 -0700
              Re: What modern physics is really about, from a woodworker's view The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-08-30 09:37 -0700
                Re: What modern physics is really about, from a woodworker's view The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-08-30 10:06 -0700
                Re: What modern physics is really about, from a woodworker's view Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2017-08-30 21:45 +0200
          Re: What modern physics is really about, from a woodworker's view The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-09-02 12:46 -0700
            Re: What modern physics is really about, from a woodworker's view Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2017-09-03 22:32 +0200

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