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Micro Penis Nemesis: Shoe String Budget π-WAM (Re: Paul Tarau versus Mr. Taskmanager, who would win?)

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  Micro Penis Nemesis: Shoe String Budget π-WAM (Re: Paul Tarau versus Mr. Taskmanager, who would win?) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-07-12 19:28 +0200
    Re: Micro Penis Nemesis: Shoe String Budget π-WAM (Re: Paul Tarau versus Mr. Taskmanager, who would win?) Jaymie Dojdikov <dmd@jidjye.ru> - 2026-07-12 18:42 +0000
    micro penis struggels with mobile grade GPU concept [Redmi Note 14 Pro+ Results] (Was: Micro Penis Nemesis: Shoe String Budget π-WAM) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-07-12 21:30 +0200
      Micro Penis Existential Crisis: DeepSeek on a Mobile GPU (Was: micro penis struggels with mobile grade GPU concept) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-07-12 21:45 +0200
      Re: micro penis struggels with mobile grade GPU concept [Redmi Note 14 Pro+ Results] (Was: Micro Penis Nemesis: Shoe String Budget π-WAM) Demetrio Baikalov <ai@meode.ru> - 2026-07-12 19:53 +0000
    Micro Penis is worse than Sleepy Joe (Was: Micro Penis Nemesis: Shoe String Budget π-WAM) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-07-12 22:58 +0200
      Maybe change your pampers? (Re: Micro Penis is worse than Sleepy Joe) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-07-12 23:01 +0200
      Re: Micro Penis is worse than Sleepy Joe (Was: Micro Penis Nemesis: Shoe String Budget π-WAM) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-09-11 18:18 +0200
      Micro Penis needs a lot of Diaper Now [Surface Laptop Ultra] (Was: Micro Penis is worse than Sleepy Joe) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-09-11 18:18 +0200
        Re: Micro Penis needs a lot of Diaper Now [Surface Laptop Ultra] (Was: Micro Penis is worse than Sleepy Joe) Jarrell Hamukov <auva@hmra.ru> - 2026-09-11 16:27 +0000
        Red Hat: Playing stupid games, Winning stupid prices [Accelerator Linux] (Re: Micro Penis needs a lot of Diaper Now [Surface Laptop Ultra]) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-09-11 18:59 +0200
          Terrence Tao payed troll, by System Inteligence Sect (Re: Red Hat: Playing stupid games, Winning stupid prices [Accelerator Linux]) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-09-13 16:27 +0200
            Bounded Rationality and Herbert Simon (Was: Terrence Tao payed troll, by System Inteligence Sect) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-09-13 16:39 +0200
              Re: Bounded Rationality and Herbert Simon (Was: Terrence Tao payed troll, by System Inteligence Sect) Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-09-13 07:46 -0700
    Black is the new AI, AI is the new Black [Champagne Supernova] Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-08-21 03:03 +0200

#646517 — Micro Penis Nemesis: Shoe String Budget π-WAM (Re: Paul Tarau versus Mr. Taskmanager, who would win?)

FromMild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm>
Date2026-07-12 19:28 +0200
SubjectMicro Penis Nemesis: Shoe String Budget π-WAM (Re: Paul Tarau versus Mr. Taskmanager, who would win?)
Message-ID<1130is0$36p$2@solani.org>
Hi,

Micro Penis the putin payed troll, is now
on the payment list of overpriced NVIDIA as
well. He cannot get over the concept of a

Shoe String Budget:

"According to Darren Aronofsky’s debut
1998 film Pi, “everything around us can
be represented and understood through numbers”,
from the stock market to the “wax and wane
of caribou populations”. But, ironically,
the film’s own numerical facts feel particularly
inexplicable. It was made on a budget of just
$60,000, which is less a shoestring and more
just the aglet at the end of a frayed lace.
To put that in to perspective, 1999’s The
Matrix – similarly based around the dystopian
danger of AI – may have been slightly slicker
and sexier, but also was made for $60m, a
thousand times more buck for a thousand
times less bang. Plus, it means that its
profit margin was huge. As Variety’s headline
following its release put it, ‘”π=$1,000,000!”
https://www.vice.com/en/article/pi-soundtrack-20-years-aronofsky-aphex-twin-autechre/

04 Bucephalus Bouncing Ball
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ez6xDGTFswQ

Bye

Loman Barabashev schrieb:
 > I have a micro penis and my brain explodes

Mild Shock schrieb:
> Hi,
> 
> Ok I was looking at this learning challenge,
> producing vector (y1,y2,y3,y4) from a vector
> (x1,x2,x3,x4), System R can do it via least square?
> 
> | 0 0 0 1 |   | x1 |     | x4 |
> | 0 0 1 0 |   | x2 |  =  | x3 |
> | 0 1 0 0 |   | x3 |     | x2 |
> | 1 0 0 0 |   | x4 |     | x1 |
> 
> How it started:
> 
> "multiplicative RNNs arises naturally from a
> proof-theoretic interpretation of next-token
> prediction as nested intuitionistic implication"
> Paul Tarau - 2026
> https://arxiv.org/abs/2601.19915
> 
> How its going:
> 
> "Dave uses a PDP-11 to train a real Neural
> Network complete with Transformers and
> Attention so you can see them at their most basic."
> Mr. Taskmanager - 2026
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OUE3FSIk46g
> 
> We see Doctor Frankstein in action from
> the Bronze Age of Computing, producing
> a Humunkulus, the progenitor of todays
> 
> Bulgakov Shuriks in the Hyperscale Age!
> 
> Bye
> 
> P.S.: My impression neither cut to the core, that
> this incredible transformer most likely
> produced this deterministic attention:
> 
> | -1 | * | k | + | 5 | = | k' |
> 
> Or differently expressed y_k = x_{5-k}.
> 
> How did the transformer do it? It produced
> a neural network with 1216 parameters, but
> didn't use embeddings or polar encoding
> 
> of positions. But if we strip the noise
> and denoise from the position encoding,
> the denoise is done via softmax. We somehow
> 
> must get the above, right? I still need to
> verify my claim! BTW: The PDP-11 assembly
> from 1979 uses wider example not with n=4
> 
> but with n=8.

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#646520

FromJaymie Dojdikov <dmd@jidjye.ru>
Date2026-07-12 18:42 +0000
Message-ID<1130n6j$126g2$1@news.nntp4.net>
In reply to#646517
Mild Shock wrote:

> Micro Penis the putin payed troll, is now on the payment list of
> overpriced NVIDIA as well. He cannot get over the concept of a

idiot, that's  copilot crap optimized, not ai. Stop making bullshit.

NO, if you intend to run large models (30B, 70B, or large context 
windows). In this case, the 16GB limit makes the Ryzen AI 7 350 completely 
non-competitive regardless of price, because it cannot perform the task at 
all. 

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#646527 — micro penis struggels with mobile grade GPU concept [Redmi Note 14 Pro+ Results] (Was: Micro Penis Nemesis: Shoe String Budget π-WAM)

FromMild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm>
Date2026-07-12 21:30 +0200
Subjectmicro penis struggels with mobile grade GPU concept [Redmi Note 14 Pro+ Results] (Was: Micro Penis Nemesis: Shoe String Budget π-WAM)
Message-ID<1130pvo$87r$1@solani.org>
In reply to#646517
Hi,

It seems micro penis struggles with mobile
grade GPU concept. Whats the difference
between a mobile grade GPU and non-mobile grade

GPU? You know the **M** in **Readeon 860M**
means Mobile! Here is a comparison:

**Mobile GPU:**

Energy Consuption: Low
Device Memory: AUP (accelerator unit processor,
    shares memory with CPU, no VRAM)
Cooling System: Fewer or no fans

**Non-Mobile GPU:**

Energy Consuption: High
Device Memory: DUP (discret unit processor,
    has its own VRAM)
Cooling System: A lot of fans or other cooling

Bye

BTW: Here are some results for:

11.4 Giga Lips with a Budget Laptop
https://github.com/Jean-Luc-Picard-2021/gigabudget

On a smartphone, namely Redmi Note 14 Pro+:

1 Shader
1983 ms

4096 Shaders
16253 ms

The phone uses a Snapdragon 7s Gen 3

Mild Shock schrieb:
> Hi,
> 
> Micro Penis the putin payed troll, is now
> on the payment list of overpriced NVIDIA as
> well. He cannot get over the concept of a
> 
> Shoe String Budget:
> 
> "According to Darren Aronofsky’s debut
> 1998 film Pi, “everything around us can
> be represented and understood through numbers”,
> from the stock market to the “wax and wane
> of caribou populations”. But, ironically,
> the film’s own numerical facts feel particularly
> inexplicable. It was made on a budget of just
> $60,000, which is less a shoestring and more
> just the aglet at the end of a frayed lace.
> To put that in to perspective, 1999’s The
> Matrix – similarly based around the dystopian
> danger of AI – may have been slightly slicker
> and sexier, but also was made for $60m, a
> thousand times more buck for a thousand
> times less bang. Plus, it means that its
> profit margin was huge. As Variety’s headline
> following its release put it, ‘”π=$1,000,000!”
> https://www.vice.com/en/article/pi-soundtrack-20-years-aronofsky-aphex-twin-autechre/ 
> 
> 
> 04 Bucephalus Bouncing Ball
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ez6xDGTFswQ
> 
> Bye
> 
> Loman Barabashev schrieb:
>  > I have a micro penis and my brain explodes
> 
> Mild Shock schrieb:
>> Hi,
>>
>> Ok I was looking at this learning challenge,
>> producing vector (y1,y2,y3,y4) from a vector
>> (x1,x2,x3,x4), System R can do it via least square?
>>
>> | 0 0 0 1 |   | x1 |     | x4 |
>> | 0 0 1 0 |   | x2 |  =  | x3 |
>> | 0 1 0 0 |   | x3 |     | x2 |
>> | 1 0 0 0 |   | x4 |     | x1 |
>>
>> How it started:
>>
>> "multiplicative RNNs arises naturally from a
>> proof-theoretic interpretation of next-token
>> prediction as nested intuitionistic implication"
>> Paul Tarau - 2026
>> https://arxiv.org/abs/2601.19915
>>
>> How its going:
>>
>> "Dave uses a PDP-11 to train a real Neural
>> Network complete with Transformers and
>> Attention so you can see them at their most basic."
>> Mr. Taskmanager - 2026
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OUE3FSIk46g
>>
>> We see Doctor Frankstein in action from
>> the Bronze Age of Computing, producing
>> a Humunkulus, the progenitor of todays
>>
>> Bulgakov Shuriks in the Hyperscale Age!
>>
>> Bye
>>
>> P.S.: My impression neither cut to the core, that
>> this incredible transformer most likely
>> produced this deterministic attention:
>>
>> | -1 | * | k | + | 5 | = | k' |
>>
>> Or differently expressed y_k = x_{5-k}.
>>
>> How did the transformer do it? It produced
>> a neural network with 1216 parameters, but
>> didn't use embeddings or polar encoding
>>
>> of positions. But if we strip the noise
>> and denoise from the position encoding,
>> the denoise is done via softmax. We somehow
>>
>> must get the above, right? I still need to
>> verify my claim! BTW: The PDP-11 assembly
>> from 1979 uses wider example not with n=4
>>
>> but with n=8.
> 

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#646529 — Micro Penis Existential Crisis: DeepSeek on a Mobile GPU (Was: micro penis struggels with mobile grade GPU concept)

FromMild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm>
Date2026-07-12 21:45 +0200
SubjectMicro Penis Existential Crisis: DeepSeek on a Mobile GPU (Was: micro penis struggels with mobile grade GPU concept)
Message-ID<1130qsj$8nh$1@solani.org>
In reply to#646527
Hi,

It seems micro penis has a real existential
crisis right now. An alice in wonderland moment,
falling down a rabit whole. Well no wonder

micro penis lives under a rock and has never
heard of the small model revolution that goes
hand in hand with the AI laptop revolution.

Here is a test, running deepseek locally on
a budget laptop (via LM Studio, oMLX, etc..):

qwen3.5-9b-deepseek-v4-flash

Q: Well there is a formidable horse race going on.
Given the danger that I compare apples with oranges.
It is still interesting too see how the Al laptop
landscape is forming.

Thought for 1 minutes 20 seconds

A: You hit on a really crucial point in the Al economy:
the tension between cloud consumption and edge ownership.
When you compare a $0.50 per 1k-token API call with a
$2,000 laptop that runs Qwen3.5 locally for free
(electricity aside), it's not strictly apples-to-oranges
because one is a service and the other is an asset. But
the implications for how we use Al are massive.

Bye

Mild Shock schrieb:
> Hi,
> 
> It seems micro penis struggles with mobile
> grade GPU concept. Whats the difference
> between a mobile grade GPU and non-mobile grade
> 
> GPU? You know the **M** in **Readeon 860M**
> means Mobile! Here is a comparison:
> 
> **Mobile GPU:**
> 
> Energy Consuption: Low
> Device Memory: AUP (accelerator unit processor,
>     shares memory with CPU, no VRAM)
> Cooling System: Fewer or no fans
> 
> **Non-Mobile GPU:**
> 
> Energy Consuption: High
> Device Memory: DUP (discret unit processor,
>     has its own VRAM)
> Cooling System: A lot of fans or other cooling
> 
> Bye
> 
> BTW: Here are some results for:
> 
> 11.4 Giga Lips with a Budget Laptop
> https://github.com/Jean-Luc-Picard-2021/gigabudget
> 
> On a smartphone, namely Redmi Note 14 Pro+:
> 
> 1 Shader
> 1983 ms
> 
> 4096 Shaders
> 16253 ms
> 
> The phone uses a Snapdragon 7s Gen 3
> 
> Mild Shock schrieb:
>> Hi,
>>
>> Micro Penis the putin payed troll, is now
>> on the payment list of overpriced NVIDIA as
>> well. He cannot get over the concept of a
>>
>> Shoe String Budget:
>>
>> "According to Darren Aronofsky’s debut
>> 1998 film Pi, “everything around us can
>> be represented and understood through numbers”,
>> from the stock market to the “wax and wane
>> of caribou populations”. But, ironically,
>> the film’s own numerical facts feel particularly
>> inexplicable. It was made on a budget of just
>> $60,000, which is less a shoestring and more
>> just the aglet at the end of a frayed lace.
>> To put that in to perspective, 1999’s The
>> Matrix – similarly based around the dystopian
>> danger of AI – may have been slightly slicker
>> and sexier, but also was made for $60m, a
>> thousand times more buck for a thousand
>> times less bang. Plus, it means that its
>> profit margin was huge. As Variety’s headline
>> following its release put it, ‘”π=$1,000,000!”
>> https://www.vice.com/en/article/pi-soundtrack-20-years-aronofsky-aphex-twin-autechre/ 
>>
>>
>> 04 Bucephalus Bouncing Ball
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ez6xDGTFswQ
>>
>> Bye

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#646533 — Re: micro penis struggels with mobile grade GPU concept [Redmi Note 14 Pro+ Results] (Was: Micro Penis Nemesis: Shoe String Budget π-WAM)

FromDemetrio Baikalov <ai@meode.ru>
Date2026-07-12 19:53 +0000
SubjectRe: micro penis struggels with mobile grade GPU concept [Redmi Note 14 Pro+ Results] (Was: Micro Penis Nemesis: Shoe String Budget π-WAM)
Message-ID<1130ras$12fl3$1@news.nntp4.net>
In reply to#646527
Mild Shock wrote:

> GPU? You know the **M** in **Readeon 860M** means Mobile! Here is a
> comparison:
> 
> **Mobile GPU:**
> 
> Energy Consuption: Low Device Memory: AUP (accelerator unit processor,
>     shares memory with CPU, no VRAM)
> Cooling System: Fewer or no fans

stop polluting this group with nonsense, you stupid unemployed former it-
supporter. I shit in your shaders. You were talking about AI. Those ryzen 
AI laptops are for fools.

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#646545 — Micro Penis is worse than Sleepy Joe (Was: Micro Penis Nemesis: Shoe String Budget π-WAM)

FromMild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm>
Date2026-07-12 22:58 +0200
SubjectMicro Penis is worse than Sleepy Joe (Was: Micro Penis Nemesis: Shoe String Budget π-WAM)
Message-ID<1130v69$bnn$1@solani.org>
In reply to#646517
Hi,

Micro Penis is worse than Sleepy Joe. He
probably only believes the existence of a
hammer, when you hit him on the head with

a hammer. Currently Micro Penis is sitting
there and shitting his pants it seems.

Bye

> stop polluting this group with nonsense, 
> you stupid unemployed former it-supporter. 
> I shit in your shaders. You were talking
> about AI. Those ryzen AI laptops are for fools.


Mild Shock schrieb:
> Hi,
> 
> Micro Penis the putin payed troll, is now
> on the payment list of overpriced NVIDIA as
> well. He cannot get over the concept of a
> 
> Shoe String Budget:
> 
> "According to Darren Aronofsky’s debut
> 1998 film Pi, “everything around us can
> be represented and understood through numbers”,
> from the stock market to the “wax and wane
> of caribou populations”. But, ironically,
> the film’s own numerical facts feel particularly
> inexplicable. It was made on a budget of just
> $60,000, which is less a shoestring and more
> just the aglet at the end of a frayed lace.
> To put that in to perspective, 1999’s The
> Matrix – similarly based around the dystopian
> danger of AI – may have been slightly slicker
> and sexier, but also was made for $60m, a
> thousand times more buck for a thousand
> times less bang. Plus, it means that its
> profit margin was huge. As Variety’s headline
> following its release put it, ‘”π=$1,000,000!”
> https://www.vice.com/en/article/pi-soundtrack-20-years-aronofsky-aphex-twin-autechre/ 
> 
> 
> 04 Bucephalus Bouncing Ball
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ez6xDGTFswQ
> 
> Bye
> 
> Loman Barabashev schrieb:
>  > I have a micro penis and my brain explodes
> 
> Mild Shock schrieb:
>> Hi,
>>
>> Ok I was looking at this learning challenge,
>> producing vector (y1,y2,y3,y4) from a vector
>> (x1,x2,x3,x4), System R can do it via least square?
>>
>> | 0 0 0 1 |   | x1 |     | x4 |
>> | 0 0 1 0 |   | x2 |  =  | x3 |
>> | 0 1 0 0 |   | x3 |     | x2 |
>> | 1 0 0 0 |   | x4 |     | x1 |
>>
>> How it started:
>>
>> "multiplicative RNNs arises naturally from a
>> proof-theoretic interpretation of next-token
>> prediction as nested intuitionistic implication"
>> Paul Tarau - 2026
>> https://arxiv.org/abs/2601.19915
>>
>> How its going:
>>
>> "Dave uses a PDP-11 to train a real Neural
>> Network complete with Transformers and
>> Attention so you can see them at their most basic."
>> Mr. Taskmanager - 2026
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OUE3FSIk46g
>>
>> We see Doctor Frankstein in action from
>> the Bronze Age of Computing, producing
>> a Humunkulus, the progenitor of todays
>>
>> Bulgakov Shuriks in the Hyperscale Age!
>>
>> Bye
>>
>> P.S.: My impression neither cut to the core, that
>> this incredible transformer most likely
>> produced this deterministic attention:
>>
>> | -1 | * | k | + | 5 | = | k' |
>>
>> Or differently expressed y_k = x_{5-k}.
>>
>> How did the transformer do it? It produced
>> a neural network with 1216 parameters, but
>> didn't use embeddings or polar encoding
>>
>> of positions. But if we strip the noise
>> and denoise from the position encoding,
>> the denoise is done via softmax. We somehow
>>
>> must get the above, right? I still need to
>> verify my claim! BTW: The PDP-11 assembly
>> from 1979 uses wider example not with n=4
>>
>> but with n=8.
> 

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#646546 — Maybe change your pampers? (Re: Micro Penis is worse than Sleepy Joe)

FromMild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm>
Date2026-07-12 23:01 +0200
SubjectMaybe change your pampers? (Re: Micro Penis is worse than Sleepy Joe)
Message-ID<1130vc4$bnn$4@solani.org>
In reply to#646545
Hi,

Hey micro penis, your shitting start
smelling. Maybe change your pampers?

Bye

Mild Shock schrieb:
> Hi,
> 
> Micro Penis is worse than Sleepy Joe. He
> probably only believes the existence of a
> hammer, when you hit him on the head with
> 
> a hammer. Currently Micro Penis is sitting
> there and shitting his pants it seems.
> 
> Bye
> 
>> stop polluting this group with nonsense, you stupid unemployed former 
>> it-supporter. I shit in your shaders. You were talking
>> about AI. Those ryzen AI laptops are for fools.
> 
> 
> Mild Shock schrieb:
>> Hi,
>>
>> Micro Penis the putin payed troll, is now
>> on the payment list of overpriced NVIDIA as
>> well. He cannot get over the concept of a
>>
>> Shoe String Budget:
>>
>> "According to Darren Aronofsky’s debut
>> 1998 film Pi, “everything around us can
>> be represented and understood through numbers”,
>> from the stock market to the “wax and wane
>> of caribou populations”. But, ironically,
>> the film’s own numerical facts feel particularly
>> inexplicable. It was made on a budget of just
>> $60,000, which is less a shoestring and more
>> just the aglet at the end of a frayed lace.
>> To put that in to perspective, 1999’s The
>> Matrix – similarly based around the dystopian
>> danger of AI – may have been slightly slicker
>> and sexier, but also was made for $60m, a
>> thousand times more buck for a thousand
>> times less bang. Plus, it means that its
>> profit margin was huge. As Variety’s headline
>> following its release put it, ‘”π=$1,000,000!”
>> https://www.vice.com/en/article/pi-soundtrack-20-years-aronofsky-aphex-twin-autechre/ 
>>
>>
>> 04 Bucephalus Bouncing Ball
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ez6xDGTFswQ
>>
>> Bye
>>
>> Loman Barabashev schrieb:
>>  > I have a micro penis and my brain explodes
>>
>> Mild Shock schrieb:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Ok I was looking at this learning challenge,
>>> producing vector (y1,y2,y3,y4) from a vector
>>> (x1,x2,x3,x4), System R can do it via least square?
>>>
>>> | 0 0 0 1 |   | x1 |     | x4 |
>>> | 0 0 1 0 |   | x2 |  =  | x3 |
>>> | 0 1 0 0 |   | x3 |     | x2 |
>>> | 1 0 0 0 |   | x4 |     | x1 |
>>>
>>> How it started:
>>>
>>> "multiplicative RNNs arises naturally from a
>>> proof-theoretic interpretation of next-token
>>> prediction as nested intuitionistic implication"
>>> Paul Tarau - 2026
>>> https://arxiv.org/abs/2601.19915
>>>
>>> How its going:
>>>
>>> "Dave uses a PDP-11 to train a real Neural
>>> Network complete with Transformers and
>>> Attention so you can see them at their most basic."
>>> Mr. Taskmanager - 2026
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OUE3FSIk46g
>>>
>>> We see Doctor Frankstein in action from
>>> the Bronze Age of Computing, producing
>>> a Humunkulus, the progenitor of todays
>>>
>>> Bulgakov Shuriks in the Hyperscale Age!
>>>
>>> Bye
>>>
>>> P.S.: My impression neither cut to the core, that
>>> this incredible transformer most likely
>>> produced this deterministic attention:
>>>
>>> | -1 | * | k | + | 5 | = | k' |
>>>
>>> Or differently expressed y_k = x_{5-k}.
>>>
>>> How did the transformer do it? It produced
>>> a neural network with 1216 parameters, but
>>> didn't use embeddings or polar encoding
>>>
>>> of positions. But if we strip the noise
>>> and denoise from the position encoding,
>>> the denoise is done via softmax. We somehow
>>>
>>> must get the above, right? I still need to
>>> verify my claim! BTW: The PDP-11 assembly
>>> from 1979 uses wider example not with n=4
>>>
>>> but with n=8.
>>
> 

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#647485 — Re: Micro Penis is worse than Sleepy Joe (Was: Micro Penis Nemesis: Shoe String Budget π-WAM)

FromMild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm>
Date2026-09-11 18:18 +0200
SubjectRe: Micro Penis is worse than Sleepy Joe (Was: Micro Penis Nemesis: Shoe String Budget π-WAM)
Message-ID<11819ko$36qk$2@solani.org>
In reply to#646545
Hi,

Remember Micro Penis, the putin payed troll, with
fluctuating *.ru Email adresses. He never grasped
the concept of unified memory and iGPU. Poor boy.

He might need a lot of Diaper Now. Shitting his
pants nonstop. There is a nice annoucement by
Microsoft, cooperating with NVIDIA:

"unified memory" pool shared between 20 ARM CPU
cores and a Blackwell GPU boasting 6,144 CUDA
cores without melting a portable chassis, they
use wide-bus, ultra-low-latency LPDDR5X channels
mapped straight into a coherent memory space."

Introducing Surface Laptop Ultra
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s1Oj792qc80

I guess I have found my next tester for pi-WAM.
So far I didn't acquire yet a AI laptop with a
NVIDIA GPU and renting a NVIDIA GPU has also

stalled. But I doubt the above thingy will be
on a shoestring price budget. Could be something
above, but Autumn 2026 is nearing quickly.

Have Fun everybody!

Bye

P.S.: Some reports say CUDA doesn't run well. But
who needs CUDA if you have Vulkan? I also suspect
they product my only come out 2027 or 2028,

who knows? Maybe Microsoft has new a fewer, it
already dropped the Copilot+ brand, too confusing,
and its all "Ultra" now.

Mild Shock schrieb:
 > Hi,
 >
 > Micro Penis is worse than Sleepy Joe. He
 > probably only believes the existence of a
 > hammer, when you hit him on the head with
 >
 > a hammer. Currently Micro Penis is sitting
 > there and shitting his pants it seems.
 >
 > Bye
 >
 >  > stop polluting this group with nonsense,
 >  > you stupid unemployed former it-supporter.
 >  > I shit in your shaders. You were talking
 >  > about AI. Those ryzen AI laptops are for fools.
 >
 > Mild Shock schrieb:
 >> Hi,
 >>
 >> It seems micro penis has a real existential
 >> crisis right now. An alice in wonderland moment,
 >> falling down a rabit whole. Well no wonder
 >>
 >> micro penis lives under a rock and has never
 >> heard of the small model revolution that goes
 >> hand in hand with the AI laptop revolution.
 >>
 >> Here is a test, running deepseek locally on
 >> a budget laptop (via LM Studio, oMLX, etc..):
 >>
 >> qwen3.5-9b-deepseek-v4-flash
 >>
 >> Q: Well there is a formidable horse race going on.
 >> Given the danger that I compare apples with oranges.
 >> It is still interesting too see how the Al laptop
 >> landscape is forming.
 >>
 >> Thought for 1 minutes 20 seconds
 >>
 >> A: You hit on a really crucial point in the Al economy:
 >> the tension between cloud consumption and edge ownership.
 >> When you compare a $0.50 per 1k-token API call with a
 >> $2,000 laptop that runs Qwen3.5 locally for free
 >> (electricity aside), it's not strictly apples-to-oranges
 >> because one is a service and the other is an asset. But
 >> the implications for how we use Al are massive.
 >>
 >> Bye
 >>
 >> Mild Shock schrieb:
 >>> Hi,
 >>>
 >>> It seems micro penis struggles with mobile
 >>> grade GPU concept. Whats the difference
 >>> between a mobile grade GPU and non-mobile grade
 >>>
 >>> GPU? You know the **M** in **Readeon 860M**
 >>> means Mobile! Here is a comparison:
 >>>
 >>> **Mobile GPU:**
 >>>
 >>> Energy Consuption: Low
 >>> Device Memory: AUP (accelerator unit processor,
 >>>     shares memory with CPU, no VRAM)
 >>> Cooling System: Fewer or no fans
 >>>
 >>> **Non-Mobile GPU:**
 >>>
 >>> Energy Consuption: High
 >>> Device Memory: DUP (discret unit processor,
 >>>     has its own VRAM)
 >>> Cooling System: A lot of fans or other cooling
 >>>
 >>> Bye
 >>>
 >>> BTW: Here are some results for:
 >>>
 >>> 11.4 Giga Lips with a Budget Laptop
 >>> https://github.com/Jean-Luc-Picard-2021/gigabudget
 >>>
 >>> On a smartphone, namely Redmi Note 14 Pro+:
 >>>
 >>> 1 Shader
 >>> 1983 ms
 >>>
 >>> 4096 Shaders
 >>> 16253 ms
 >>>
 >>> The phone uses a Snapdragon 7s Gen 3
 >>>
 >>> Mild Shock schrieb:
 >>>> Hi,
 >>>>
 >>>> Micro Penis the putin payed troll, is now
 >>>> on the payment list of overpriced NVIDIA as
 >>>> well. He cannot get over the concept of a
 >>>>
 >>>> Shoe String Budget:
 >>>>
 >>>> "According to Darren Aronofsky’s debut
 >>>> 1998 film Pi, “everything around us can
 >>>> be represented and understood through numbers”,
 >>>> from the stock market to the “wax and wane
 >>>> of caribou populations”. But, ironically,
 >>>> the film’s own numerical facts feel particularly
 >>>> inexplicable. It was made on a budget of just
 >>>> $60,000, which is less a shoestring and more
 >>>> just the aglet at the end of a frayed lace.
 >>>> To put that in to perspective, 1999’s The
 >>>> Matrix – similarly based around the dystopian
 >>>> danger of AI – may have been slightly slicker
 >>>> and sexier, but also was made for $60m, a
 >>>> thousand times more buck for a thousand
 >>>> times less bang. Plus, it means that its
 >>>> profit margin was huge. As Variety’s headline
 >>>> following its release put it, ‘”π=$1,000,000!”
 >>>> 
https://www.vice.com/en/article/pi-soundtrack-20-years-aronofsky-aphex-twin-autechre/
 >>>>
 >>>> 04 Bucephalus Bouncing Ball
 >>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ez6xDGTFswQ
 >>>>
 >>>> Bye
 >>>>
 >>>> Loman Barabashev schrieb:
 >>>>  > I have a micro penis and my brain explodes
 >

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#647486 — Micro Penis needs a lot of Diaper Now [Surface Laptop Ultra] (Was: Micro Penis is worse than Sleepy Joe)

FromMild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm>
Date2026-09-11 18:18 +0200
SubjectMicro Penis needs a lot of Diaper Now [Surface Laptop Ultra] (Was: Micro Penis is worse than Sleepy Joe)
Message-ID<11819le$36qk$3@solani.org>
In reply to#646545
Hi,

Remember Micro Penis, the putin payed troll, with
fluctuating *.ru Email adresses. He never grasped
the concept of unified memory and iGPU. Poor boy.

I might need a lot of Diaper Now. Shitting his
pants nonstop. There is a nice annoucement by
Microsoft, cooperating with NVIDIA:

"unified memory" pool shared between 20 ARM CPU
cores and a Blackwell GPU boasting 6,144 CUDA
cores without melting a portable chassis, they
use wide-bus, ultra-low-latency LPDDR5X channels
mapped straight into a coherent memory space."

Introducing Surface Laptop Ultra
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s1Oj792qc80

I guess I have found my next tester for pi-WAM.
So far I didn't acquire yet a AI laptop with a
NVIDIA GPU and renting a NVIDIA GPU has also

stalled. But I doubt the above thingy will be
on a shoestring price budget. Could be something
above, but Autumn 2026 is nearing quickly.

Have Fun everybody!

Bye

P.S.: Some reports say CUDA doesn't run well. But
who needs CUDA if you have Vulkan? I also suspect
they product my only come out 2027 or 2028,

who knows? Maybe Microsoft has new a fewer, it
already dropped the Copilot+ brand, too confusing,
and its all "Ultra" now.

Mild Shock schrieb:
 > Hi,
 >
 > Micro Penis is worse than Sleepy Joe. He
 > probably only believes the existence of a
 > hammer, when you hit him on the head with
 >
 > a hammer. Currently Micro Penis is sitting
 > there and shitting his pants it seems.
 >
 > Bye
 >
 >  > stop polluting this group with nonsense,
 >  > you stupid unemployed former it-supporter.
 >  > I shit in your shaders. You were talking
 >  > about AI. Those ryzen AI laptops are for fools.
 >
 > Mild Shock schrieb:
 >> Hi,
 >>
 >> It seems micro penis has a real existential
 >> crisis right now. An alice in wonderland moment,
 >> falling down a rabit whole. Well no wonder
 >>
 >> micro penis lives under a rock and has never
 >> heard of the small model revolution that goes
 >> hand in hand with the AI laptop revolution.
 >>
 >> Here is a test, running deepseek locally on
 >> a budget laptop (via LM Studio, oMLX, etc..):
 >>
 >> qwen3.5-9b-deepseek-v4-flash
 >>
 >> Q: Well there is a formidable horse race going on.
 >> Given the danger that I compare apples with oranges.
 >> It is still interesting too see how the Al laptop
 >> landscape is forming.
 >>
 >> Thought for 1 minutes 20 seconds
 >>
 >> A: You hit on a really crucial point in the Al economy:
 >> the tension between cloud consumption and edge ownership.
 >> When you compare a $0.50 per 1k-token API call with a
 >> $2,000 laptop that runs Qwen3.5 locally for free
 >> (electricity aside), it's not strictly apples-to-oranges
 >> because one is a service and the other is an asset. But
 >> the implications for how we use Al are massive.
 >>
 >> Bye
 >>
 >> Mild Shock schrieb:
 >>> Hi,
 >>>
 >>> It seems micro penis struggles with mobile
 >>> grade GPU concept. Whats the difference
 >>> between a mobile grade GPU and non-mobile grade
 >>>
 >>> GPU? You know the **M** in **Readeon 860M**
 >>> means Mobile! Here is a comparison:
 >>>
 >>> **Mobile GPU:**
 >>>
 >>> Energy Consuption: Low
 >>> Device Memory: AUP (accelerator unit processor,
 >>>     shares memory with CPU, no VRAM)
 >>> Cooling System: Fewer or no fans
 >>>
 >>> **Non-Mobile GPU:**
 >>>
 >>> Energy Consuption: High
 >>> Device Memory: DUP (discret unit processor,
 >>>     has its own VRAM)
 >>> Cooling System: A lot of fans or other cooling
 >>>
 >>> Bye
 >>>
 >>> BTW: Here are some results for:
 >>>
 >>> 11.4 Giga Lips with a Budget Laptop
 >>> https://github.com/Jean-Luc-Picard-2021/gigabudget
 >>>
 >>> On a smartphone, namely Redmi Note 14 Pro+:
 >>>
 >>> 1 Shader
 >>> 1983 ms
 >>>
 >>> 4096 Shaders
 >>> 16253 ms
 >>>
 >>> The phone uses a Snapdragon 7s Gen 3
 >>>
 >>> Mild Shock schrieb:
 >>>> Hi,
 >>>>
 >>>> Micro Penis the putin payed troll, is now
 >>>> on the payment list of overpriced NVIDIA as
 >>>> well. He cannot get over the concept of a
 >>>>
 >>>> Shoe String Budget:
 >>>>
 >>>> "According to Darren Aronofsky’s debut
 >>>> 1998 film Pi, “everything around us can
 >>>> be represented and understood through numbers”,
 >>>> from the stock market to the “wax and wane
 >>>> of caribou populations”. But, ironically,
 >>>> the film’s own numerical facts feel particularly
 >>>> inexplicable. It was made on a budget of just
 >>>> $60,000, which is less a shoestring and more
 >>>> just the aglet at the end of a frayed lace.
 >>>> To put that in to perspective, 1999’s The
 >>>> Matrix – similarly based around the dystopian
 >>>> danger of AI – may have been slightly slicker
 >>>> and sexier, but also was made for $60m, a
 >>>> thousand times more buck for a thousand
 >>>> times less bang. Plus, it means that its
 >>>> profit margin was huge. As Variety’s headline
 >>>> following its release put it, ‘”π=$1,000,000!”
 >>>> 
https://www.vice.com/en/article/pi-soundtrack-20-years-aronofsky-aphex-twin-autechre/
 >>>>
 >>>> 04 Bucephalus Bouncing Ball
 >>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ez6xDGTFswQ
 >>>>
 >>>> Bye
 >>>>
 >>>> Loman Barabashev schrieb:
 >>>>  > I have a micro penis and my brain explodes
 >

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#647487 — Re: Micro Penis needs a lot of Diaper Now [Surface Laptop Ultra] (Was: Micro Penis is worse than Sleepy Joe)

FromJarrell Hamukov <auva@hmra.ru>
Date2026-09-11 16:27 +0000
SubjectRe: Micro Penis needs a lot of Diaper Now [Surface Laptop Ultra] (Was: Micro Penis is worse than Sleepy Joe)
Message-ID<1181a5v$1fdph$1@news.nntp4.net>
In reply to#647486
Mild Shock wrote:


> Hi,
> 
> Remember Micro Penis, the putin payed troll, with fluctuating *.ru Email
> adresses. He never grasped the concept of unified memory and iGPU. Poor
> boy.
> 
> I might need a lot of Diaper Now. Shitting his pants nonstop. There is a
> nice annoucement by Microsoft, cooperating with NVIDIA:

stop right there, talking about microsoft, that's now microsoft but some 
wankers from shit india. They dont even have toilets. Idiot

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#647489 — Red Hat: Playing stupid games, Winning stupid prices [Accelerator Linux] (Re: Micro Penis needs a lot of Diaper Now [Surface Laptop Ultra])

FromMild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm>
Date2026-09-11 18:59 +0200
SubjectRed Hat: Playing stupid games, Winning stupid prices [Accelerator Linux] (Re: Micro Penis needs a lot of Diaper Now [Surface Laptop Ultra])
Message-ID<1181c25$38o9$3@solani.org>
In reply to#647486
Hi,

When looking at CERN the term Accelerator Linux
has a totally different meaning, since they also accelerate
a lot of stuff in their Particle Physics experiments:

"Red Hat Enterprise Linux (RHEL 9 and RHEL 10) raised
its minimum CPU architecture requirements (requiring
x86-64-v2 and v3 instruction sets). If CERN had stayed on
the Red Hat / IBM ecosystem, they would
have been forced to decommission and replace those 2,200
functional industrial machines. Redesigning and replacing that
embedded hardware was estimated to cost around
CHF 5.4 million (over $6 million USD)."
https://www.phoronix.com/news/CERN-Goes-Debian-Leaving-RHEL

Ubuntu doesn't seem to have this dilemma, you can
easily Accelerate your Linux, by opting in to use vector
and/or matrix operations, and not only scalars:

"Opt-in "amd64v3" Performance: Starting with Ubuntu
25.10 and extending into Ubuntu 26.10, Canonical introduced
optimized package archives targeting x86-64-v3."
https://rueegger.me/ubuntu-2604-x86-64-v3-aktivieren/

Actually v3 is still a little weak. v4 has AVX-512 heavy
lifting, and many AI laptops have even more, like
general matrix multiplications (GEMM) units.

Bye

Disclaimer: CERN has clarified that their focus with the
migration is on their industrial accelerator-control computers
while data centers and experimental computing remain
on RHEL/AlmaLinux. LoL

Mild Shock schrieb:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Remember Micro Penis, the putin payed troll, with
> fluctuating *.ru Email adresses. He never grasped
> the concept of unified memory and iGPU. Poor boy.
> 
> I might need a lot of Diaper Now. Shitting his
> pants nonstop. There is a nice annoucement by
> Microsoft, cooperating with NVIDIA:
> 
> "unified memory" pool shared between 20 ARM CPU
> cores and a Blackwell GPU boasting 6,144 CUDA
> cores without melting a portable chassis, they
> use wide-bus, ultra-low-latency LPDDR5X channels
> mapped straight into a coherent memory space."
> 
> Introducing Surface Laptop Ultra
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s1Oj792qc80
> 
> I guess I have found my next tester for pi-WAM.
> So far I didn't acquire yet a AI laptop with a
> NVIDIA GPU and renting a NVIDIA GPU has also
> 
> stalled. But I doubt the above thingy will be
> on a shoestring price budget. Could be something
> above, but Autumn 2026 is nearing quickly.
> 
> Have Fun everybody!
> 
> Bye
> 
> P.S.: Some reports say CUDA doesn't run well. But
> who needs CUDA if you have Vulkan? I also suspect
> they product my only come out 2027 or 2028,
> 
> who knows? Maybe Microsoft has new a fewer, it
> already dropped the Copilot+ brand, too confusing,
> and its all "Ultra" now.
> 
> Mild Shock schrieb:
>  > Hi,
>  >
>  > Micro Penis is worse than Sleepy Joe. He
>  > probably only believes the existence of a
>  > hammer, when you hit him on the head with
>  >
>  > a hammer. Currently Micro Penis is sitting
>  > there and shitting his pants it seems.
>  >
>  > Bye
>  >
>  >  > stop polluting this group with nonsense,
>  >  > you stupid unemployed former it-supporter.
>  >  > I shit in your shaders. You were talking
>  >  > about AI. Those ryzen AI laptops are for fools.
>  >
>  > Mild Shock schrieb:
>  >> Hi,
>  >>
>  >> It seems micro penis has a real existential
>  >> crisis right now. An alice in wonderland moment,
>  >> falling down a rabit whole. Well no wonder
>  >>
>  >> micro penis lives under a rock and has never
>  >> heard of the small model revolution that goes
>  >> hand in hand with the AI laptop revolution.
>  >>
>  >> Here is a test, running deepseek locally on
>  >> a budget laptop (via LM Studio, oMLX, etc..):
>  >>
>  >> qwen3.5-9b-deepseek-v4-flash
>  >>
>  >> Q: Well there is a formidable horse race going on.
>  >> Given the danger that I compare apples with oranges.
>  >> It is still interesting too see how the Al laptop
>  >> landscape is forming.
>  >>
>  >> Thought for 1 minutes 20 seconds
>  >>
>  >> A: You hit on a really crucial point in the Al economy:
>  >> the tension between cloud consumption and edge ownership.
>  >> When you compare a $0.50 per 1k-token API call with a
>  >> $2,000 laptop that runs Qwen3.5 locally for free
>  >> (electricity aside), it's not strictly apples-to-oranges
>  >> because one is a service and the other is an asset. But
>  >> the implications for how we use Al are massive.
>  >>
>  >> Bye
>  >>
>  >> Mild Shock schrieb:
>  >>> Hi,
>  >>>
>  >>> It seems micro penis struggles with mobile
>  >>> grade GPU concept. Whats the difference
>  >>> between a mobile grade GPU and non-mobile grade
>  >>>
>  >>> GPU? You know the **M** in **Readeon 860M**
>  >>> means Mobile! Here is a comparison:
>  >>>
>  >>> **Mobile GPU:**
>  >>>
>  >>> Energy Consuption: Low
>  >>> Device Memory: AUP (accelerator unit processor,
>  >>>     shares memory with CPU, no VRAM)
>  >>> Cooling System: Fewer or no fans
>  >>>
>  >>> **Non-Mobile GPU:**
>  >>>
>  >>> Energy Consuption: High
>  >>> Device Memory: DUP (discret unit processor,
>  >>>     has its own VRAM)
>  >>> Cooling System: A lot of fans or other cooling
>  >>>
>  >>> Bye
>  >>>
>  >>> BTW: Here are some results for:
>  >>>
>  >>> 11.4 Giga Lips with a Budget Laptop
>  >>> https://github.com/Jean-Luc-Picard-2021/gigabudget
>  >>>
>  >>> On a smartphone, namely Redmi Note 14 Pro+:
>  >>>
>  >>> 1 Shader
>  >>> 1983 ms
>  >>>
>  >>> 4096 Shaders
>  >>> 16253 ms
>  >>>
>  >>> The phone uses a Snapdragon 7s Gen 3
>  >>>
>  >>> Mild Shock schrieb:
>  >>>> Hi,
>  >>>>
>  >>>> Micro Penis the putin payed troll, is now
>  >>>> on the payment list of overpriced NVIDIA as
>  >>>> well. He cannot get over the concept of a
>  >>>>
>  >>>> Shoe String Budget:
>  >>>>
>  >>>> "According to Darren Aronofsky’s debut
>  >>>> 1998 film Pi, “everything around us can
>  >>>> be represented and understood through numbers”,
>  >>>> from the stock market to the “wax and wane
>  >>>> of caribou populations”. But, ironically,
>  >>>> the film’s own numerical facts feel particularly
>  >>>> inexplicable. It was made on a budget of just
>  >>>> $60,000, which is less a shoestring and more
>  >>>> just the aglet at the end of a frayed lace.
>  >>>> To put that in to perspective, 1999’s The
>  >>>> Matrix – similarly based around the dystopian
>  >>>> danger of AI – may have been slightly slicker
>  >>>> and sexier, but also was made for $60m, a
>  >>>> thousand times more buck for a thousand
>  >>>> times less bang. Plus, it means that its
>  >>>> profit margin was huge. As Variety’s headline
>  >>>> following its release put it, ‘”π=$1,000,000!”
>  >>>> 
> https://www.vice.com/en/article/pi-soundtrack-20-years-aronofsky-aphex-twin-autechre/ 
> 
>  >>>>
>  >>>> 04 Bucephalus Bouncing Ball
>  >>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ez6xDGTFswQ
>  >>>>
>  >>>> Bye
>  >>>>
>  >>>> Loman Barabashev schrieb:
>  >>>>  > I have a micro penis and my brain explodes
>  >
> 

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#647498 — Terrence Tao payed troll, by System Inteligence Sect (Re: Red Hat: Playing stupid games, Winning stupid prices [Accelerator Linux])

FromMild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm>
Date2026-09-13 16:27 +0200
SubjectTerrence Tao payed troll, by System Inteligence Sect (Re: Red Hat: Playing stupid games, Winning stupid prices [Accelerator Linux])
Message-ID<1186bs0$4o8t$3@solani.org>
In reply to#647489
Hi,

Terrence Tao is a payed troll, by the System
Inteligence Sect Movement. Right? Now I read:

Slow Software: The Case for High-latency Systems Development
https://www.sigops.org/2026/slow-software-the-case-for-high-latency-systems-development/

Terrence Tao has a YT video about slow is better
than fast. Here he claims there is litterally a
paradox of efficiency:

Terrence Tao: The paradox of efficiency
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=svl_1upFpQo

He litterally paints a romantic picture of a
manchete excursion into an eldorado, while beaten
by a helicopter. LoL

I think its unhealthy to confuse efficient/ineffeicient and
slow/fast with exact/inexact and careful/careless etc..
These people are just morons.

Bye

Mild Shock schrieb:
 > Hi,
 >
 > When looking at CERN the term Accelerator Linux
 > has a totally different meaning, since they also accelerate
 > a lot of stuff in their Particle Physics experiments:
 >
 > "Red Hat Enterprise Linux (RHEL 9 and RHEL 10) raised
 > its minimum CPU architecture requirements (requiring
 > x86-64-v2 and v3 instruction sets). If CERN had stayed on
 > the Red Hat / IBM ecosystem, they would
 > have been forced to decommission and replace those 2,200
 > functional industrial machines. Redesigning and replacing that
 > embedded hardware was estimated to cost around
 > CHF 5.4 million (over $6 million USD)."
 > https://www.phoronix.com/news/CERN-Goes-Debian-Leaving-RHEL
 >
 > Ubuntu doesn't seem to have this dilemma, you can
 > easily Accelerate your Linux, by opting in to use vector
 > and/or matrix operations, and not only scalars:
 >
 > "Opt-in "amd64v3" Performance: Starting with Ubuntu
 > 25.10 and extending into Ubuntu 26.10, Canonical introduced
 > optimized package archives targeting x86-64-v3."
 > https://rueegger.me/ubuntu-2604-x86-64-v3-aktivieren/
 >
 > Actually v3 is still a little weak. v4 has AVX-512 heavy
 > lifting, and many AI laptops have even more, like
 > general matrix multiplications (GEMM) units.
 >
 > Bye
 >
 > Disclaimer: CERN has clarified that their focus with the
 > migration is on their industrial accelerator-control computers
 > while data centers and experimental computing remain
 > on RHEL/AlmaLinux. LoL
 >

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#647499 — Bounded Rationality and Herbert Simon (Was: Terrence Tao payed troll, by System Inteligence Sect)

FromMild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm>
Date2026-09-13 16:39 +0200
SubjectBounded Rationality and Herbert Simon (Was: Terrence Tao payed troll, by System Inteligence Sect)
Message-ID<1186cim$4p26$1@solani.org>
In reply to#647498
Hi,

These issues are at the core of cognitive science
and artifical intelligence. A milestone was for
example the Cognitive Revolution, leaving behind

Skinners behaviorism of simple stimulus/response:

Cognitive Revolution
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cognitive_revolution

Herbert Simon took it into economics:

Bounded Rationality
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bounded_rationality

But system intelligence now talks of blast radius,
and looks at ecosystems of software repositories.
So its clearly not anymore individual psychology

nor single software agent problems, or individual
freedom and accountablity. We are in the mists of
rediscovering distributed artificial intelligence

research and social psychology. So a Terrence Tao
giving machete djungle advice on an individual level,
is surely a lame joke, to say the least.

He doesn't know what he is talking about. And as a
top mathematician he could surely do better!

Bye

Mild Shock schrieb:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Terrence Tao is a payed troll, by the System
> Inteligence Sect Movement. Right? Now I read:
> 
> Slow Software: The Case for High-latency Systems Development
> https://www.sigops.org/2026/slow-software-the-case-for-high-latency-systems-development/ 
> 
> 
> Terrence Tao has a YT video about slow is better
> than fast. Here he claims there is litterally a
> paradox of efficiency:
> 
> Terrence Tao: The paradox of efficiency
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=svl_1upFpQo
> 
> He litterally paints a romantic picture of a
> manchete excursion into an eldorado, while beaten
> by a helicopter. LoL
> 
> I think its unhealthy to confuse efficient/ineffeicient and
> slow/fast with exact/inexact and careful/careless etc..
> These people are just morons.
> 
> Bye
> 
> Mild Shock schrieb:
>  > Hi,
>  >
>  > When looking at CERN the term Accelerator Linux
>  > has a totally different meaning, since they also accelerate
>  > a lot of stuff in their Particle Physics experiments:
>  >
>  > "Red Hat Enterprise Linux (RHEL 9 and RHEL 10) raised
>  > its minimum CPU architecture requirements (requiring
>  > x86-64-v2 and v3 instruction sets). If CERN had stayed on
>  > the Red Hat / IBM ecosystem, they would
>  > have been forced to decommission and replace those 2,200
>  > functional industrial machines. Redesigning and replacing that
>  > embedded hardware was estimated to cost around
>  > CHF 5.4 million (over $6 million USD)."
>  > https://www.phoronix.com/news/CERN-Goes-Debian-Leaving-RHEL
>  >
>  > Ubuntu doesn't seem to have this dilemma, you can
>  > easily Accelerate your Linux, by opting in to use vector
>  > and/or matrix operations, and not only scalars:
>  >
>  > "Opt-in "amd64v3" Performance: Starting with Ubuntu
>  > 25.10 and extending into Ubuntu 26.10, Canonical introduced
>  > optimized package archives targeting x86-64-v3."
>  > https://rueegger.me/ubuntu-2604-x86-64-v3-aktivieren/
>  >
>  > Actually v3 is still a little weak. v4 has AVX-512 heavy
>  > lifting, and many AI laptops have even more, like
>  > general matrix multiplications (GEMM) units.
>  >
>  > Bye
>  >
>  > Disclaimer: CERN has clarified that their focus with the
>  > migration is on their industrial accelerator-control computers
>  > while data centers and experimental computing remain
>  > on RHEL/AlmaLinux. LoL
>  >

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#647500 — Re: Bounded Rationality and Herbert Simon (Was: Terrence Tao payed troll, by System Inteligence Sect)

FromRoss Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com>
Date2026-09-13 07:46 -0700
SubjectRe: Bounded Rationality and Herbert Simon (Was: Terrence Tao payed troll, by System Inteligence Sect)
Message-ID<UuGdnWLXGJzxKjv3nZ2dnZfqnPqdnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#647499
On 09/13/2026 07:39 AM, Mild Shock wrote:
> Hi,
>
> These issues are at the core of cognitive science
> and artifical intelligence. A milestone was for
> example the Cognitive Revolution, leaving behind
>
> Skinners behaviorism of simple stimulus/response:
>
> Cognitive Revolution
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cognitive_revolution
>
> Herbert Simon took it into economics:
>
> Bounded Rationality
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bounded_rationality
>
> But system intelligence now talks of blast radius,
> and looks at ecosystems of software repositories.
> So its clearly not anymore individual psychology
>
> nor single software agent problems, or individual
> freedom and accountablity. We are in the mists of
> rediscovering distributed artificial intelligence
>
> research and social psychology. So a Terrence Tao
> giving machete djungle advice on an individual level,
> is surely a lame joke, to say the least.
>
> He doesn't know what he is talking about. And as a
> top mathematician he could surely do better!
>
> Bye
>
> Mild Shock schrieb:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Terrence Tao is a payed troll, by the System
>> Inteligence Sect Movement. Right? Now I read:
>>
>> Slow Software: The Case for High-latency Systems Development
>> https://www.sigops.org/2026/slow-software-the-case-for-high-latency-systems-development/
>>
>>
>> Terrence Tao has a YT video about slow is better
>> than fast. Here he claims there is litterally a
>> paradox of efficiency:
>>
>> Terrence Tao: The paradox of efficiency
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=svl_1upFpQo
>>
>> He litterally paints a romantic picture of a
>> manchete excursion into an eldorado, while beaten
>> by a helicopter. LoL
>>
>> I think its unhealthy to confuse efficient/ineffeicient and
>> slow/fast with exact/inexact and careful/careless etc..
>> These people are just morons.
>>
>> Bye
>>
>> Mild Shock schrieb:
>>  > Hi,
>>  >
>>  > When looking at CERN the term Accelerator Linux
>>  > has a totally different meaning, since they also accelerate
>>  > a lot of stuff in their Particle Physics experiments:
>>  >
>>  > "Red Hat Enterprise Linux (RHEL 9 and RHEL 10) raised
>>  > its minimum CPU architecture requirements (requiring
>>  > x86-64-v2 and v3 instruction sets). If CERN had stayed on
>>  > the Red Hat / IBM ecosystem, they would
>>  > have been forced to decommission and replace those 2,200
>>  > functional industrial machines. Redesigning and replacing that
>>  > embedded hardware was estimated to cost around
>>  > CHF 5.4 million (over $6 million USD)."
>>  > https://www.phoronix.com/news/CERN-Goes-Debian-Leaving-RHEL
>>  >
>>  > Ubuntu doesn't seem to have this dilemma, you can
>>  > easily Accelerate your Linux, by opting in to use vector
>>  > and/or matrix operations, and not only scalars:
>>  >
>>  > "Opt-in "amd64v3" Performance: Starting with Ubuntu
>>  > 25.10 and extending into Ubuntu 26.10, Canonical introduced
>>  > optimized package archives targeting x86-64-v3."
>>  > https://rueegger.me/ubuntu-2604-x86-64-v3-aktivieren/
>>  >
>>  > Actually v3 is still a little weak. v4 has AVX-512 heavy
>>  > lifting, and many AI laptops have even more, like
>>  > general matrix multiplications (GEMM) units.
>>  >
>>  > Bye
>>  >
>>  > Disclaimer: CERN has clarified that their focus with the
>>  > migration is on their industrial accelerator-control computers
>>  > while data centers and experimental computing remain
>>  > on RHEL/AlmaLinux. LoL
>>  >
>

 From what I understand it's "Terence" Tao, where
"Terrence" is a different individual of high intelligence.


Also, around here "Simon doesn't say".



The _thorough_ is an account for that beyond _sufficient_
reason is _thorough_ reason, thorough and fulfilling and fair,
about "cheap, fast, and correct: pick one".



One man's carrot is another man's troll.

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#647416 — Black is the new AI, AI is the new Black [Champagne Supernova]

FromMild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm>
Date2026-08-21 03:03 +0200
SubjectBlack is the new AI, AI is the new Black [Champagne Supernova]
Message-ID<116885b$qm24$1@solani.org>
In reply to#646517
Hi,

How it started:

""Arday’s Cool Britannia is both a brave
cultural history and a deeply personal odyssey.
Retrieving the 1990s from retro sentimentality,
Arday reminds us that the decade of Brit pop
and girl power was also an era of discriminatory
policing, hostile immigration policy and the
murder of Stephen Lawrence. A necessary corrective
to the Brit nostalgia and historical amnesia
that mark our present day."

Cool Britannia and Multi-Ethnic Britain
Uncorking the Champagne Supernova
https://www.routledge.com/Cool-Britannia-and-Multi-Ethnic-Britain-Uncorking-the-Champagne-Supernova/Arday/p/book/9781032239989

How its going:

Arday was found unresponsive at his home
in Battersea on 14 August 2026, and was
pronounced dead at the scene, aged 41.
Mr Cofnas, who claims he advocates for
“race realism”, is currently a postdoctoral
researcher at Ghent University’s department
of philosophy and moral sciences, according
to his website.
On 20 August 2026, Cofnas was suspended
from Ghent University.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/jason-arday-nathan-cofnas-university-b3036452.html

Bye

Mild Shock schrieb:
> Hi,
> 
> Micro Penis the putin payed troll, is now
> on the payment list of overpriced NVIDIA as
> well. He cannot get over the concept of a
> 
> Shoe String Budget:
> 
> "According to Darren Aronofsky’s debut
> 1998 film Pi, “everything around us can
> be represented and understood through numbers”,
> from the stock market to the “wax and wane
> of caribou populations”. But, ironically,
> the film’s own numerical facts feel particularly
> inexplicable. It was made on a budget of just
> $60,000, which is less a shoestring and more
> just the aglet at the end of a frayed lace.
> To put that in to perspective, 1999’s The
> Matrix – similarly based around the dystopian
> danger of AI – may have been slightly slicker
> and sexier, but also was made for $60m, a
> thousand times more buck for a thousand
> times less bang. Plus, it means that its
> profit margin was huge. As Variety’s headline
> following its release put it, ‘”π=$1,000,000!”
> https://www.vice.com/en/article/pi-soundtrack-20-years-aronofsky-aphex-twin-autechre/ 
> 
> 
> 04 Bucephalus Bouncing Ball
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ez6xDGTFswQ
> 
> Bye
> 
> Loman Barabashev schrieb:
>  > I have a micro penis and my brain explodes
> 
> Mild Shock schrieb:
>> Hi,
>>
>> Ok I was looking at this learning challenge,
>> producing vector (y1,y2,y3,y4) from a vector
>> (x1,x2,x3,x4), System R can do it via least square?
>>
>> | 0 0 0 1 |   | x1 |     | x4 |
>> | 0 0 1 0 |   | x2 |  =  | x3 |
>> | 0 1 0 0 |   | x3 |     | x2 |
>> | 1 0 0 0 |   | x4 |     | x1 |
>>
>> How it started:
>>
>> "multiplicative RNNs arises naturally from a
>> proof-theoretic interpretation of next-token
>> prediction as nested intuitionistic implication"
>> Paul Tarau - 2026
>> https://arxiv.org/abs/2601.19915
>>
>> How its going:
>>
>> "Dave uses a PDP-11 to train a real Neural
>> Network complete with Transformers and
>> Attention so you can see them at their most basic."
>> Mr. Taskmanager - 2026
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OUE3FSIk46g
>>
>> We see Doctor Frankstein in action from
>> the Bronze Age of Computing, producing
>> a Humunkulus, the progenitor of todays
>>
>> Bulgakov Shuriks in the Hyperscale Age!
>>
>> Bye
>>
>> P.S.: My impression neither cut to the core, that
>> this incredible transformer most likely
>> produced this deterministic attention:
>>
>> | -1 | * | k | + | 5 | = | k' |
>>
>> Or differently expressed y_k = x_{5-k}.
>>
>> How did the transformer do it? It produced
>> a neural network with 1216 parameters, but
>> didn't use embeddings or polar encoding
>>
>> of positions. But if we strip the noise
>> and denoise from the position encoding,
>> the denoise is done via softmax. We somehow
>>
>> must get the above, right? I still need to
>> verify my claim! BTW: The PDP-11 assembly
>> from 1979 uses wider example not with n=4
>>
>> but with n=8.
> 

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