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| From | Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | sci.math, sci.physics.relativity |
| Subject | Summary of 100 questions Chris M. Thomasson can ask (Re: You posted that already, but you didn't listen) |
| Date | 2026-08-02 23:20 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <114ocb4$rkbc$2@solani.org> (permalink) |
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Hi,
Chris M. Thomasson can ask 100 more questions.
I will happily answer them. But maybe I should
make a Wiki to explain the ever same things:
> But, I still don't know what you main goal is?
The goal is "Prolog inferencing"
> It has textures to work with in the pipeline.
I don't need textures for "Prolog inferencing"
> You seem to need queues, why not "imageAtomicAdd"
I don't need ideally unbouded queues from WebGL
> But the "imageAtomicAdd" are wait-free
I don't need wait-free queues, my queues should block
Hard to swallow, isn't it? Not my problem, its yours!
96 more questions to go, don't give up!
Bye
Mild Shock schrieb:
> Hi,
>
> I assure you I have like 3-4 times already
> communicated to you that my requirements are
> bounded queues. And not the ideally unbounded queues
> that you are using, i.e. imageAtomicAdd.
>
> Just check the postings in this forum. I have
> like 3-4 times already specified that I need
> bounded queues.
>
> > Works great and runs really fast.
>
> You repeating yourself. Whats the motivation
> of this spamming. I mean I can officially acknowledge
> here that I have seen your imageAtomicAdd code
>
> already. I also responded back then that I
> have a Queue prototype that exactly uses that.
> But it doesn't work for my purpose because I need:
>
> - bounded queues that can block
> - sizes are typically like 4-32 elements
> - blocking is not done in GPU
> - blocking is done in Hack
> - Hack can do work stealing etc..
>
> Because Hack can do a lot of tricks, you shouldn't
> worry at all. Also spinning with backoff etc..
> could be part of the picture, just check out:
>
> Parallel Programming, Spring 2019, Lecture 16+1:
> Spinlocks, Deadlocks, Semaphores
> https://spcl.inf.ethz.ch/Teaching/2020-pp/lectures/PP-l17-BeyondLocks.pdf
>
> So just let me do my research, and refrain from
> spamming me with always the same nonsense. Better
> listen. I assure you I have like 3-4 times already
>
> communicated to you that my requirements are
> bounded queues. And not the ideally unbounded queues
> that you are using., i.e. imageAtomicAdd.
>
> Just check the postings in this forum. I have
> like 3-4 times already specified that I need
> bounded queues.
>
> Bye
>
>
> Chris M. Thomasson schrieb:
>> On 8/1/2026 5:47 PM, Mild Shock wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Chris M. Thomasson can ask 100 more questions.
>>> I will happily answer them. But maybe I should
>>> make a Wiki to explain the ever same things:
>>>
>>> > But, I still don't know what you main goal is?
>>> The goal is "Prolog inferencing"
>>>
>>> > It has textures to work with in the pipeline.
>>> I don't need textures for "Prolog inferencing"
>>>
>>> 98 more questions to go, don't give up!
>> [...]
>>
>> Fwiw, I have several compute shaders that do what I want. Mainly
>> building vector fields, etc.... And yes I use textures for some input
>> and output, uniforms mainly for the settings, etc. Just, make sure to
>> code things up to a point where your compute shader never needs to
>> wait for something... Think of striving for wait-free algorithms.
>>
>> For instance, this is 100% wait free.
>>
>> void add_hit(ct_plane2d plane, vec2 p, vec3 weight)
>> {
>> vec2 uv = ct_plane2d_unproject(plane, p);
>> ivec2 px = ivec2(uv * u_resolution);
>>
>> if (px.x >= 0 && px.x < int(u_resolution.x) &&
>> px.y >= 0 && px.y < int(u_resolution.y))
>> {
>> imageAtomicAdd(accum_r, px, weight.r);
>> imageAtomicAdd(accum_g, px, weight.g);
>> imageAtomicAdd(accum_b, px, weight.b);
>> imageAtomicAdd(accum_hits, px, 1.0f);
>> }
>> }
>>
>>
>> Notice how I separated my accumulation buffer into different textures?
>>
>> layout(binding = 0, r32f) uniform coherent image2D accum_r;
>> layout(binding = 1, r32f) uniform coherent image2D accum_g;
>> layout(binding = 2, r32f) uniform coherent image2D accum_b;
>> layout(binding = 3, r32f) uniform coherent image2D accum_hits; //
>> alpha / hit counter
>>
>> Works great and runs really fast.
>
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Re: Chris M. Thomasson can ask 100 more questions (Re: Tablet and phone UBS-C remote debugging) Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-08-02 11:13 -0700
Pro Gauss-Jordan Reduction, Phigs and Phigs+ (was: Re: Chris M. Thomasson can ask 100 more questions (Re: Tablet and phone UBS-C remote debugging)) Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-08-03 02:27 +0800
Re: Pro Gauss-Jordan Reduction, Phigs and Phigs+ Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-08-03 02:35 +0800
Re: Chris M. Thomasson can ask 100 more questions (Re: Tablet and phone UBS-C remote debugging) "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2026-08-02 12:42 -0700
You posted that already, but you didn't listen [I NEED BOUNDED QUEUES] (Was: Chris M. Thomasson can ask 100 more questions) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-08-02 23:09 +0200
Summary of 100 questions Chris M. Thomasson can ask (Was: You posted that already, but you didn't listen [I NEED BOUNDED QUEUES]) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-08-02 23:17 +0200
Summary of 100 questions Chris M. Thomasson can ask (Re: You posted that already, but you didn't listen) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-08-02 23:20 +0200
Re: You posted that already, but you didn't listen [I NEED BOUNDED QUEUES] (Was: Chris M. Thomasson can ask 100 more questions) "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2026-08-03 12:55 -0700
Liar and spammer (Was: You posted that already, but you didn't listen [I NEED BOUNDED QUEUES]) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-08-03 22:16 +0200
Re: Liar and spammer (Was: You posted that already, but you didn't listen [I NEED BOUNDED QUEUES]) Rosalino Kablahov <oaror@vla.ru> - 2026-08-03 21:50 +0000
Even send_color and recv_color can block [Cerebras Waver] Re: The Wuhan Virus that destroyed Python [ggml Manifesto] Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-08-02 23:33 +0200
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