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| From | Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | sci.math, sci.physics.relativity |
| Subject | miniTriton CUDA is an alternative to torch variants (Was: Why forget Bulgarians, never on my mind) |
| Date | 2026-07-27 09:40 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <114721k$gc17$1@solani.org> (permalink) |
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Hi,
Some counter PyTorch Python trends are
for example OpenAIs Triton. And the variant
miniTriton CUDA vibe produced by Kimi K3 (sic!):
"We further tested whether Kimi K3 could build
a GPU programming system from scratch. Kimi K3
developed MiniTriton, a compact Triton-like
compiler with its own tile-level IR layer over
MLIR, optimization passes, and a PTX code-
generation pipeline.
Across supported roofline benchmarks, MiniTriton
delivers performance on par with or better than
Triton and torch.compile — beating Triton on
certain workloads. Beyond microbenchmarks,
MiniTriton sustains end-to-end nanoGPT training
with stable convergence, the loss curve
closely tracking the reference with only minor
divergence — validating the full pipeline on a
realistic workload. These results demonstrate
that Kimi K3 can build a coherent end-to-end
compiler — from DSL frontend and IR passes to
PTX codegen and runtime — rather than isolated
kernels; its from-scratch Tensor Core path
already rivals Triton’s extensively optimized stack."
GPU Compiler Development
https://www.kimi.com/blog/kimi-k3
Although many GPU corporate stuff is anonymized,
and some AI papers have lists of 30 authors. Here
nanoGPT is mentioned which is tied to the name
Andrej Karpathy. See also here:
Update Nov 2025 nanoGPT has a new and
improved cousin called nanochat.
https://github.com/karpathy/nanogpt
But as can be seen, he moved on to another project.
Bye
Mild Shock schrieb:
> Hi,
>
> Whats this "forget" trope of glue sniffing
> Rossy Boy with his herpes blisters?
>
> > Bulgarians, that's some real Boris and Natasha crap,
> > forget Hungarians and Bulgarians.
>
> Why should I forget Bulgarians,
> they are never on my mind. Do you
> see me doing ggml stuff?
>
> I only hypothesized that it is
> over for Python as the machine
> learning language or AI inferencing
>
> locally on AI laptops language, and
> made the ggml case, so I already forgot
> about them. Which might give you a glimps,
>
> why WebGPU was used for this here:
>
> 11.4 Giga Lips with a Budget Laptop
> https://github.com/Jean-Luc-Picard-2021/gigabudget
>
> Is an interesting choice. Even
> github has some Languages statistics,
> giving an account what I used:
>
> HTML 67.5% JavaScript 23.1% CSS 9.4%
>
> Have Fun!
>
> Bye
>
> P.S.: The example below is not p-adics,
> you complete imbecil moron. Its just:
>
> 7-11 cubic Solution by Pritchard & Gries
> https://www.cs.cornell.edu/gries/TechReports/83-574.pdf
>
> Ross Finlayson schrieb:
>> On 07/26/2026 10:52 AM, Mild Shock wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> You see it all boils down to find your inner peace
>>> by an immaculate inception of some queue datatype.
>>>
>>> KOAN/Fortran-S was an early 1990s research programming
>>> system for distributed-memory multiprocessors . Developed
>>> at ENS Lyon in the early 1990s . Often listed alongside
>>> other historical parallel programming efforts.
>>>
>>> The Message Passing: The research explicitly
>>> compared the SVM approach against message passing
>>> on the same hardware . The finding was that SVM
>>> could achieve good performance without the low-level
>>>
>>> complexity of managing explicit messages, though
>>> the best results often came from a hybrid approach (sic!)
>>> Here is an interesting baseline, from Java,
>>> a class ElevenSingle that only does:
>>>
>>> public static void run() {
>>> for (int A = 1; A < 192; A++) {
>>> int Y = (771-A)/3;
>>> for (int B = A; B < Y; B++) {
>>> int Z = (771-A-B)/2;
>>> for (int C = B; C < Z; C++) {
>>> int D = 711-A-B-C;
>>> if (A*B*C == 711000000/D &&
>>> 711000000 % D == 0)
>>> System.out.println("A="+A+", B="+B+", C="+C+", D="+D);
>>> }
>>> }
>>> }
>>> }
>>>
>>> And then compare it to ElevenMulti, doing some
>>> Work Balancing Scheduler Tetris Game with 8 cores:
>>>
>>> ElevenSingle
>>> A=120, B=125, C=150, D=316
>>> 6.628 ms
>>>
>>> ElevenMulti
>>> A=120, B=125, C=150, D=316
>>> 1.941 ms
>>>
>>> Not great, not terrible!
>>>
>>> Bye
>>
>> Oh, that's just "tricks of p-adic arithmetic".
>>
>> Like other sock-puppet howler trolls, when confronted
>> with its base incredulity, it will descend to its
>> lower levers of the pathos variety.
>>
>> You might be happier learning about Julia trees and
>> raster ops, instead of shilling yet another Ramanujan
>> series without saying how it's made.
>>
>> Bulgarians, that's some real Boris and Natasha crap,
>> forget Hungarians and Bulgarians.
>>
>>
>
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