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| From | "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | aus.politics, aus.general, sci.environment |
| Subject | Re: a small but significant win |
| Date | 2026-10-16 06:30 +1100 |
| Message-ID | <op.3w81s1p3byq249@pvr2.lan> (permalink) |
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multistrada <ab@in.valid> wrote > 000-666 wrote >>> you're forced to vote, >> How horrible eh, being asked to do your civic duty, eh moron! > It rather dilutes the need of conscienceand duty appreciably though, > doesn't it? Bullshit > Why bother to act decide to act 'ethically' if one is ordered to do so > by the state? > And why not remove the last vestige of silent protest by the masses - Nope, you are free to vote informally or not vote at all > simply reducing choice to play alongwith the systemic outcome > corruption. More mindless bullshit >> And just imagine those horrible consequences you face if you don't: >> You get a $20.00 fine. That's it! > No it's not: Yes it is > https://www.elections.wa.gov.au/vote/didnt-vote That's a STATE election, we are discussing FEDERAL ELECTIONS which only have a $20 fine > After an election we check the rolls. If it appears you have not voted > you may be sent an email or notice in the mail asking for an explanation. > The penalty for first time offenders is $50, and this increases to $75 > if you have previously paid a penalty or been convicted of this offence. > If you do not have a valid and sufficient reason for not voting, you can > pay the penalty and that will end the matter. Federal elections are different >> What absolutely unbearable horrible punishment! > Fines Enforcement Registry (FER) Referral Not with a federal election > If the matter has not been resolved after the first three notices have > been issued, it will be referred to FER and your driver’s licence could > be suspended. Not with a federal election > FER may issue a Notice of Intention to Enforce, which includes > significant fees in addition to the original penalty. The Western > Australian Electoral Commission is no longer able to accept payments > after this time. From this point all payments must be made through the > Fines Enforcement Registry. Not with a federal election >> You septics have zero concept of social responsibility! 😛 > No humaner society ought to compel its members to participate in > fraudulent elections, Nothing fraudulent about them, fuckwit >>> and then all you can do is vote for a party, >>> not a candidate? >> Sure. You are absolutely ignorant about the Australian electoral system He's right >> yet you have the audacity to make stupid comment on it. > Define the results of "ranked voting", dipshit. We have no such thing, fuckwit >> Maybe Google it first before you make yourself look like the arrogantly >> ignorant septic fool you actually are. > Right then: > https://rankthevote.us/ranked-choice-voting-in-australia-explained/ > "A unique feature of Australian politics is compulsory voting – > eligible citizens must register and vote in elections. Furthermore, the > requirement that a certain number of candidates and/ or parties are > ranked differs from the current way RCV is implemented in the US (thus > far). In the US, the ability to choose whether or not to rank certain > candidates creates more opportunities for ballot exhaustion (unranked > candidates) which allows for variability and unpredictability." Mindless waffle >> In Australia you are given the choice to vote for parties in a >> preferential order or alternatively you can cast your vote for the >> candidates directly, also in a preferential order. You have the full >> freedom of choice unlike you fucking sheep septics who have to live in >> gerrymandered/voter suppressed/billionaires manipulated first past the >> post shit-hole of a country. > Not to worry 'mate' we have the ranked voting scam too: > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ranked-choice_voting_in_the_United_States > As of April 2025, RCV is used for local elections in 47 US cities > including Salt Lake City and Seattle.[4] It has also been used by some > state political parties in party-run primaries and nominating > conventions.[5][6][7] As a contingency in the case of a runoff election, > ranked ballots are used by overseas voters in six states.[4] > Since 2020, voters in seven states have rejected ballot initiatives that > would have implemented, or allowed legislatures to implement, ranked > choice voting. As of March 2026, ranked-choice voting has also been > banned in nineteen states.[8][9][10] Complexity, cost, difficulty of > voting, and issues of transparency have been cited as barriers to > adoption We have nothing like that here >>> Do you people have any say as to who the candidates >>> are, or does the party decide all that for you? >> Decision about the selection of party candidates remain with the >> membership of the given party. > Being any party with a ranked mandate. >> If you want to have a say about the nominations you have to sign up as a >> member. > Of course. >> Nothing wrong with that. > If it ended there, but it doesn't. >> Anyhow, there are also independent candidates, and you have also no say >> in >> the decision of individuals nominating themselves for the office >> *providing they fulfil the criteria* for the nomination. > Ringers go freelance then eh? > And are never used to diminish another party eh? >> But, actually that is totally irrelevant from the standpoint of an >> average >> voter who have the power to reject or accept candidates at the ballot >> box >> and can do so in a preferential order. > Why do you nee d preference? That allows the voter to list who they prefer if the candidate they prefer doesn't get enough votes to get elected > What's wrong with a straight out vote to cumulative winner? Doesn't allows the voter to list who they prefer if the candidate they prefer doesn't get enough votes to get elected >> That is why our electoral system is far superior to the shitshow your >> septics have. > Utter BULLSHITE! Fact actually >> And now kindly bugger off in the sunset, together with your trolling >> ilk. >> -- ...and was promptly flushed and fully sanitised. 😛 > You just got your sorry arse handed to you Oztard, Just another of your pathetic little drug crazed drunken yankee troll fantasys <reams of your drug crazed drunken yankee troll fantasys flushed where they belong>
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a small but significant win R Kym Horsell <kym@sdf.org> - 2026-10-07 03:19 +0000
Re: a small but significant win multistrada <ab@in.valid> - 2026-10-12 12:57 -0600
Re: a small but significant win Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2026-10-13 09:23 +1100
Re: a small but significant win "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2026-10-13 09:50 +1100
Re: a small but significant win Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2026-10-13 13:51 +1100
Re: a small but significant win multistrada <ab@in.valid> - 2026-10-13 09:46 -0600
Re: a small but significant win multistrada <ab@in.valid> - 2026-10-13 09:41 -0600
Re: a small but significant win Jeremiah Jones <jj@j.j> - 2026-10-13 21:19 -0700
Re: a small but significant win Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2026-10-14 16:02 +1100
Re: a small but significant win "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2026-10-14 19:11 +1100
Re: a small but significant win Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2026-10-14 19:42 +1100
Re: a small but significant win "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2026-10-14 16:18 +1100
Re: a small but significant win R Kym Horsell <kym@sdf.org> - 2026-10-14 07:29 +0000
Re: a small but significant win Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2026-10-14 19:38 +1100
Re: a small but significant win "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2026-10-15 03:08 +1100
Re: a small but significant win R Kym Horsell <kym@sdf.org> - 2026-10-14 17:02 +0000
Re: a small but significant win multistrada <ab@in.valid> - 2026-10-14 14:35 -0600
Re: a small but significant win Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2026-10-16 14:48 +1100
Re: a small but significant win "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2026-10-16 15:56 +1100
Re: a small but significant win Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2026-10-16 16:02 +1100
Re: a small but significant win multistrada <ab@in.valid> - 2026-10-14 14:36 -0600
Re: a small but significant win Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2026-10-15 08:04 +1100
Re: a small but significant win "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2026-10-15 09:01 +1100
Re: a small but significant win multistrada <ab@in.valid> - 2026-10-15 10:41 -0600
Re: a small but significant win Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2026-10-16 20:38 +1100
Re: a small but significant win "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2026-10-15 09:39 +1100
Re: a small but significant win multistrada <ab@in.valid> - 2026-10-15 11:03 -0600
Re: a small but significant win "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2026-10-16 06:32 +1100
Re: a small but significant win Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2026-10-15 07:38 +1100
Re: a small but significant win multistrada <ab@in.valid> - 2026-10-14 14:42 -0600
Re: a small but significant win Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2026-10-15 08:24 +1100
Re: a small but significant win "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2026-10-15 09:10 +1100
Re: a small but significant win multistrada <ab@in.valid> - 2026-10-15 10:44 -0600
Re: a small but significant win Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2026-10-16 05:43 +1100
Re: a small but significant win multistrada <ab@in.valid> - 2026-10-15 13:00 -0600
Re: a small but significant win "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2026-10-16 06:48 +1100
Re: a small but significant win R Kym Horsell <kym@sdf.org> - 2026-10-16 03:06 +0000
Re: a small but significant win "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2026-10-15 09:38 +1100
Re: a small but significant win "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2026-10-15 08:11 +1100
Re: a small but significant win Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2026-10-15 08:26 +1100
Re: a small but significant win multistrada <ab@in.valid> - 2026-10-15 10:42 -0600
Re: a small but significant win "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2026-10-16 06:15 +1100
Re: a small but significant win Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2026-10-14 20:34 +1100
Re: a small but significant win R Kym Horsell <kym@sdf.org> - 2026-10-14 09:54 +0000
Re: a small but significant win Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2026-10-15 08:01 +1100
Re: a small but significant win Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2026-10-15 22:09 +1100
Re: a small but significant win Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2026-10-15 07:52 +1100
Re: a small but significant win Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2026-10-15 23:49 +1100
Re: a small but significant win Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2026-10-16 03:25 +1100
Re: a small but significant win "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2026-10-16 06:10 +1100
Re: a small but significant win Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2026-10-16 07:00 +1100
Re: a small but significant win "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2026-10-16 07:15 +1100
Re: a small but significant win Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2026-10-16 07:45 +1100
Re: a small but significant win "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2026-10-16 07:51 +1100
Re: a small but significant win Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2026-10-16 08:06 +1100
Re: a small but significant win "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2026-10-16 08:34 +1100
Re: a small but significant win Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2026-10-16 09:31 +1100
Re: a small but significant win "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2026-10-16 11:07 +1100
Re: a small but significant win Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2026-10-16 14:32 +1100
Re: a small but significant win "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2026-10-16 15:39 +1100
Re: a small but significant win Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2026-10-16 16:03 +1100
Re: a small but significant win 000-666 <8-0-15@never.invalid> - 2026-10-14 21:50 +0000
Re: a small but significant win multistrada <ab@in.valid> - 2026-10-15 11:01 -0600
Re: a small but significant win "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2026-10-16 06:30 +1100
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