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Re: a small but significant win

From "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com>
Newsgroups alt.global-warming, sci.environment, aus.general, aus.politics
Subject Re: a small but significant win
Date 2026-10-13 09:50 +1100
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Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote

> The "Greens" party are anything but GREEN!
> In Australia it is compulsory to vote,

> Right now done by preferential system where you must vote in order of
> preference 1 for party A, 2 for B, 3 for C and so on a minimum of 16
> times to be counted, OR just put one in the box for your party choice
> This has designed prefences decided by the party box you tick
> And this is what happens

> To get votes parties do deals to share preferences, Labor, Greens
> funnels votes as 2nd choice (as well as further count)

> So both Labor and "GREENS" have become a alliance with "Fantasia"
> climate policies turning the nation to ashes.

> The so called Labor party has no Labor people on its cabinet

More of your mindless bullshit

> The Greens are often described as a “watermelon” party—green on the
> outside, red on the inside.

> I see Albanese Labor as increasingly
> committed to a green-left political agenda,

More fool you

> while relying on Greens   preferences tostrengthen its chances in close  
> contests.

Even sillier and more pig ignorant given labor's massive majority

> But the deeper problem, in my view, is that "Labor" has become distant
> from the people it was founded to represent. Too few of its leading
> figures appear to have come directly from jobs such as mining,
> manufacturing, construction, rail or the trades.

Dregs like that are the last thing we need as MPs and senators

> The party is   increasingly shaped by university, union,party-office,   
> ministerial-staff and professional policy careers.

The last thing we need is ignorant bigots like Hanson

> The original Labor movement was built by tradespeople, miners, railway
> workers, and factory hands—people who knew what a hard day's physical
> work felt like..

And included professions like Evatt too

> Today, that base has largely been replaced by a professional political
> class

> .1. The Death of the "Blue-Collar" Politician
> In the mid-to-late 20th century, a Labor MP was highly likely to have
> come straight from a shop floor or a trade..

And the last thing we need is a fucking train driver as the fucking  
treaserer

> Today, a vast majority of Labor politicians in Australia follow a very
> specific, insular career path..

> The Pipeline:
> They go straight from university to working as a political staffer,
> then move into a role as a trade union official, and finally enter
> parliament..

> The Missing Link:
> They have never run a business, never had to worry about making
> commercial payroll, and have never worked a competitive job in the
> private sector

Fat lot of good that did Hanson

> .2. The Rise of the "Professional Class
>  "When modern Labor parties do recruit from outside politics, they
> tend to pull from a very narrow pool of white-collar professionals,
> which explains observation about "failed lawyers".

None of them are FAILED lawyers

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  Re: a small but significant win multistrada <ab@in.valid> - 2026-10-12 12:57 -0600
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      Re: a small but significant win "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2026-10-13 09:50 +1100
        Re: a small but significant win Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2026-10-13 13:51 +1100
        Re: a small but significant win multistrada <ab@in.valid> - 2026-10-13 09:46 -0600
      Re: a small but significant win multistrada <ab@in.valid> - 2026-10-13 09:41 -0600
      Re: a small but significant win Jeremiah Jones <jj@j.j> - 2026-10-13 21:19 -0700
        Re: a small but significant win Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2026-10-14 16:02 +1100
          Re: a small but significant win "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2026-10-14 19:11 +1100
            Re: a small but significant win Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2026-10-14 19:42 +1100
        Re: a small but significant win "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2026-10-14 16:18 +1100
          Re: a small but significant win R Kym Horsell <kym@sdf.org> - 2026-10-14 07:29 +0000
            Re: a small but significant win Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2026-10-14 19:38 +1100
              Re: a small but significant win "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2026-10-15 03:08 +1100
                Re: a small but significant win R Kym Horsell <kym@sdf.org> - 2026-10-14 17:02 +0000
                Re: a small but significant win multistrada <ab@in.valid> - 2026-10-14 14:35 -0600
                Re: a small but significant win Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2026-10-16 14:48 +1100
                Re: a small but significant win "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2026-10-16 15:56 +1100
                Re: a small but significant win Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2026-10-16 16:02 +1100
                Re: a small but significant win multistrada <ab@in.valid> - 2026-10-14 14:36 -0600
                Re: a small but significant win Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2026-10-15 08:04 +1100
                Re: a small but significant win "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2026-10-15 09:01 +1100
                Re: a small but significant win multistrada <ab@in.valid> - 2026-10-15 10:41 -0600
                Re: a small but significant win Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2026-10-16 20:38 +1100
                Re: a small but significant win "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2026-10-15 09:39 +1100
                Re: a small but significant win multistrada <ab@in.valid> - 2026-10-15 11:03 -0600
                Re: a small but significant win "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2026-10-16 06:32 +1100
                Re: a small but significant win Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2026-10-15 07:38 +1100
                Re: a small but significant win multistrada <ab@in.valid> - 2026-10-14 14:42 -0600
                Re: a small but significant win Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2026-10-15 08:24 +1100
                Re: a small but significant win "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2026-10-15 09:10 +1100
                Re: a small but significant win multistrada <ab@in.valid> - 2026-10-15 10:44 -0600
                Re: a small but significant win Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2026-10-16 05:43 +1100
                Re: a small but significant win multistrada <ab@in.valid> - 2026-10-15 13:00 -0600
                Re: a small but significant win "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2026-10-16 06:48 +1100
                Re: a small but significant win R Kym Horsell <kym@sdf.org> - 2026-10-16 03:06 +0000
                Re: a small but significant win "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2026-10-15 09:38 +1100
                Re: a small but significant win "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2026-10-15 08:11 +1100
                Re: a small but significant win Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2026-10-15 08:26 +1100
                Re: a small but significant win multistrada <ab@in.valid> - 2026-10-15 10:42 -0600
                Re: a small but significant win "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2026-10-16 06:15 +1100
            Re: a small but significant win Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2026-10-14 20:34 +1100
              Re: a small but significant win R Kym Horsell <kym@sdf.org> - 2026-10-14 09:54 +0000
                Re: a small but significant win Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2026-10-15 08:01 +1100
                Re: a small but significant win Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2026-10-15 22:09 +1100
              Re: a small but significant win Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2026-10-15 07:52 +1100
                Re: a small but significant win Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2026-10-15 23:49 +1100
                Re: a small but significant win Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2026-10-16 03:25 +1100
                Re: a small but significant win "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2026-10-16 06:10 +1100
                Re: a small but significant win Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2026-10-16 07:00 +1100
                Re: a small but significant win "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2026-10-16 07:15 +1100
                Re: a small but significant win Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2026-10-16 07:45 +1100
                Re: a small but significant win "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2026-10-16 07:51 +1100
                Re: a small but significant win Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2026-10-16 08:06 +1100
                Re: a small but significant win "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2026-10-16 08:34 +1100
                Re: a small but significant win Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2026-10-16 09:31 +1100
                Re: a small but significant win "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2026-10-16 11:07 +1100
                Re: a small but significant win Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2026-10-16 14:32 +1100
                Re: a small but significant win "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2026-10-16 15:39 +1100
                Re: a small but significant win Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2026-10-16 16:03 +1100
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          Re: a small but significant win multistrada <ab@in.valid> - 2026-10-15 11:01 -0600
            Re: a small but significant win "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2026-10-16 06:30 +1100

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