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Re: You have been removed from the list (repeatedly)

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On 6/10/21 7:43 pm, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 06, 2021 at 07:39:26AM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote:
>> On Wed, Oct 06, 2021 at 08:27:36AM +0300, Reco wrote:
>>> On Tue, Oct 05, 2021 at 04:40:41PM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote:
>>>> Is there anything I can do to stop it, other than simply
>>>> re-subscribing every time I post?
>>>
>>> It says there plain and clear:
>>>
>>>>> When in doubt, ... or send mail to "postmaster".
>>>
>>> Lists' postmasters were very helpful in pointing at errors in my setup
>>> when I had the problems with the list in the past. Mail them, ask for
>>> help.
>>
> 
> I just got bounced and have resubscribed :(
> 
> I sent a quick email to listmaster@lists.debian.org to let them know what's
> happening.
> 
> I'm guessing this user / users can be added to a deny list / deny block -
> I thought OVH was already deny-listed a while back.
> 
> All best,
> 
> Andy C.
> 
> 
>> That paragraph is telling me to talk to "postmaster@wooledge.org" which
>> is, unfortunately, me.
>>
>>> The most probable cause of your troubles - you do not have DMARC policy
>>> published, which means the whole Internet could send bounces to the list
>>> on your behalf. SPF policy that you have published is not enough.
>>
>> Another thing I have to learn?!  Crap.  Well, maybe some day I'll find
>> the time and energy to think about it.
>>
>> I still don't understand how a bounce message that was received by
>> the Debian mail server ("Delivered-To: lists-debian-user@bendel.debian.org")
>> with a "From postmaster@vps268904.ovh.net" on top of it can cause *me*
>> to become unsubscribed.  The only place my email address is mentioned
>> is at the top of the body.
>>
>> Is a message sent from Alice to lists-debian-user@bendel.debian.org with
>> Bob's address at the top of the body considered a "bounce from Bob"?
>> That sounds like a huge bug in bendel.debian.org to me.
>>
>> Either that, or they're not showing me enough context to understand how
>> this particular message from ovh.net got *me* in trouble.
>>
>> I guess the only thing I can do *right now* is hope that whoever this
>> ovh user is, they'll fix their setup and/or *actually* unsubscribe
>> instead of just thinking they have unsubbed.
>>
> 

I believe that the solution is simple, and, what the list 
administrator(s) of the Debian User list will not do; simply disallow 
messages posted to the list, from non-subscribers.

It is simple, will minimise spurious removals from the list, and, 
minimise spamming of the list.

-- 
Bret Busby
Armadale
West Australia
(UTC+0800)
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You have been removed from the list (repeatedly) Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org> - 2021-10-05 22:50 +0200
  Re: You have been removed from the list (repeatedly) piorunz <piorunz@gmx.com> - 2021-10-05 23:10 +0200
  Re: You have been removed from the list (repeatedly) "Thomas Schmitt" <scdbackup@gmx.net> - 2021-10-05 23:40 +0200
  Re: You have been removed from the list (repeatedly) Cindy Sue Causey <butterflybytes@gmail.com> - 2021-10-05 23:50 +0200
  Re: You have been removed from the list (repeatedly) Andy Smith <andy@strugglers.net> - 2021-10-06 00:10 +0200
  Re: You have been removed from the list (repeatedly) Reco <recoverym4n@enotuniq.net> - 2021-10-06 07:30 +0200
    Re: You have been removed from the list (repeatedly) Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org> - 2021-10-06 13:40 +0200
      Re: You have been removed from the list (repeatedly) "Andrew M.A. Cater" <amacater@einval.com> - 2021-10-06 13:50 +0200
        Re: You have been removed from the list (repeatedly) Reco <recoverym4n@enotuniq.net> - 2021-10-06 14:10 +0200
          Re: You have been removed from the list (repeatedly) Dan Ritter <dsr@randomstring.org> - 2021-10-06 16:30 +0200
        Re: You have been removed from the list (repeatedly) Bret Busby <bret@busby.net> - 2021-10-06 15:40 +0200
          Re: You have been removed from the list (repeatedly) Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org> - 2021-10-06 15:50 +0200
            Re: You have been removed from the list (repeatedly) "Thomas Schmitt" <scdbackup@gmx.net> - 2021-10-06 19:50 +0200
            Re: You have been removed from the list (repeatedly) Dan Ritter <dsr-onetimeonlytalktome@randomstring.org> - 2021-10-08 19:30 +0200
      Re: You have been removed from the list (repeatedly) Reco <recoverym4n@enotuniq.net> - 2021-10-06 14:00 +0200

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