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Re: You have been removed from the list (repeatedly)

From Reco <recoverym4n@enotuniq.net>
Newsgroups linux.debian.user
Subject Re: You have been removed from the list (repeatedly)
Date 2021-10-06 07:30 +0200
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	Hi.

On Tue, Oct 05, 2021 at 04:40:41PM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote:
> Is this happening to anyone else?

Not yet.


> Is there anything I can do to stop it, other than simply
> re-subscribing every time I post?

It says there plain and clear:

> > When in doubt, ... or send mail to "postmaster".

Lists' postmasters were very helpful in pointing at errors in my setup
when I had the problems with the list in the past. Mail them, ask for
help.

The most probable cause of your troubles - you do not have DMARC policy
published, which means the whole Internet could send bounces to the list
on your behalf. SPF policy that you have published is not enough.


> What is this "vps268904.ovh.net",

"whois ovh.net" will tell you all you need to know about it,
specifically - an abuse e-mail. Consider sending an e-mail there as
well.
Long story short - that host belongs to OVH, one of the Europe largest
hosting provider, and it's withing their power to excommunicate one of
their clients.


> why is it sending messages with the subject "**stop**",

Because it's host owner who misconfigured that sorry excuse for an MTA
called "Kerio Connect", so it's sending bounces.


> why do no such messages appear in the web archive of debian-user,

Because the list archive does not store bounces.


> and why are these messages causing me to become unsubscribed?

This e-mail is the consequence, not the reason of it. After all, it says
"we have already unsubscribed", so it was some other e-mail that got you
into this trouble.


> My best guess is that someone is spamming debian-user, the messages are
> being sent to everyone, my local MTA's spam filters are blocking them,
> and the mailing list is getting mad at me for blocking the spam that it's
> sending to me.

Silently discarding spam was always OK.
Replying to the spammer via list was not and is not.
Bouncing spammer e-mail (which could happen due to MTA misconfiguration
on your part) will get you removed from the list.

Reco

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You have been removed from the list (repeatedly) Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org> - 2021-10-05 22:50 +0200
  Re: You have been removed from the list (repeatedly) piorunz <piorunz@gmx.com> - 2021-10-05 23:10 +0200
  Re: You have been removed from the list (repeatedly) "Thomas Schmitt" <scdbackup@gmx.net> - 2021-10-05 23:40 +0200
  Re: You have been removed from the list (repeatedly) Cindy Sue Causey <butterflybytes@gmail.com> - 2021-10-05 23:50 +0200
  Re: You have been removed from the list (repeatedly) Andy Smith <andy@strugglers.net> - 2021-10-06 00:10 +0200
  Re: You have been removed from the list (repeatedly) Reco <recoverym4n@enotuniq.net> - 2021-10-06 07:30 +0200
    Re: You have been removed from the list (repeatedly) Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org> - 2021-10-06 13:40 +0200
      Re: You have been removed from the list (repeatedly) "Andrew M.A. Cater" <amacater@einval.com> - 2021-10-06 13:50 +0200
        Re: You have been removed from the list (repeatedly) Reco <recoverym4n@enotuniq.net> - 2021-10-06 14:10 +0200
          Re: You have been removed from the list (repeatedly) Dan Ritter <dsr@randomstring.org> - 2021-10-06 16:30 +0200
        Re: You have been removed from the list (repeatedly) Bret Busby <bret@busby.net> - 2021-10-06 15:40 +0200
          Re: You have been removed from the list (repeatedly) Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org> - 2021-10-06 15:50 +0200
            Re: You have been removed from the list (repeatedly) "Thomas Schmitt" <scdbackup@gmx.net> - 2021-10-06 19:50 +0200
            Re: You have been removed from the list (repeatedly) Dan Ritter <dsr-onetimeonlytalktome@randomstring.org> - 2021-10-08 19:30 +0200
      Re: You have been removed from the list (repeatedly) Reco <recoverym4n@enotuniq.net> - 2021-10-06 14:00 +0200

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