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Re: You have been removed from the list (repeatedly)

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On Wed, Oct 06, 2021 at 07:39:26AM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 06, 2021 at 08:27:36AM +0300, Reco wrote:
> > On Tue, Oct 05, 2021 at 04:40:41PM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote:
> > > Is there anything I can do to stop it, other than simply
> > > re-subscribing every time I post?
> > 
> > It says there plain and clear:
> > 
> > > > When in doubt, ... or send mail to "postmaster".
> > 
> > Lists' postmasters were very helpful in pointing at errors in my setup
> > when I had the problems with the list in the past. Mail them, ask for
> > help.
> 

I just got bounced and have resubscribed :(

I sent a quick email to listmaster@lists.debian.org to let them know what's
happening.

I'm guessing this user / users can be added to a deny list / deny block -
I thought OVH was already deny-listed a while back.

All best,

Andy C.


> That paragraph is telling me to talk to "postmaster@wooledge.org" which
> is, unfortunately, me.
> 
> > The most probable cause of your troubles - you do not have DMARC policy
> > published, which means the whole Internet could send bounces to the list
> > on your behalf. SPF policy that you have published is not enough.
> 
> Another thing I have to learn?!  Crap.  Well, maybe some day I'll find
> the time and energy to think about it.
> 
> I still don't understand how a bounce message that was received by
> the Debian mail server ("Delivered-To: lists-debian-user@bendel.debian.org")
> with a "From postmaster@vps268904.ovh.net" on top of it can cause *me*
> to become unsubscribed.  The only place my email address is mentioned
> is at the top of the body.
> 
> Is a message sent from Alice to lists-debian-user@bendel.debian.org with
> Bob's address at the top of the body considered a "bounce from Bob"?
> That sounds like a huge bug in bendel.debian.org to me.
> 
> Either that, or they're not showing me enough context to understand how
> this particular message from ovh.net got *me* in trouble.
> 
> I guess the only thing I can do *right now* is hope that whoever this
> ovh user is, they'll fix their setup and/or *actually* unsubscribe
> instead of just thinking they have unsubbed.
> 

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You have been removed from the list (repeatedly) Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org> - 2021-10-05 22:50 +0200
  Re: You have been removed from the list (repeatedly) piorunz <piorunz@gmx.com> - 2021-10-05 23:10 +0200
  Re: You have been removed from the list (repeatedly) "Thomas Schmitt" <scdbackup@gmx.net> - 2021-10-05 23:40 +0200
  Re: You have been removed from the list (repeatedly) Cindy Sue Causey <butterflybytes@gmail.com> - 2021-10-05 23:50 +0200
  Re: You have been removed from the list (repeatedly) Andy Smith <andy@strugglers.net> - 2021-10-06 00:10 +0200
  Re: You have been removed from the list (repeatedly) Reco <recoverym4n@enotuniq.net> - 2021-10-06 07:30 +0200
    Re: You have been removed from the list (repeatedly) Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org> - 2021-10-06 13:40 +0200
      Re: You have been removed from the list (repeatedly) "Andrew M.A. Cater" <amacater@einval.com> - 2021-10-06 13:50 +0200
        Re: You have been removed from the list (repeatedly) Reco <recoverym4n@enotuniq.net> - 2021-10-06 14:10 +0200
          Re: You have been removed from the list (repeatedly) Dan Ritter <dsr@randomstring.org> - 2021-10-06 16:30 +0200
        Re: You have been removed from the list (repeatedly) Bret Busby <bret@busby.net> - 2021-10-06 15:40 +0200
          Re: You have been removed from the list (repeatedly) Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org> - 2021-10-06 15:50 +0200
            Re: You have been removed from the list (repeatedly) "Thomas Schmitt" <scdbackup@gmx.net> - 2021-10-06 19:50 +0200
            Re: You have been removed from the list (repeatedly) Dan Ritter <dsr-onetimeonlytalktome@randomstring.org> - 2021-10-08 19:30 +0200
      Re: You have been removed from the list (repeatedly) Reco <recoverym4n@enotuniq.net> - 2021-10-06 14:00 +0200

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