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Re: You have been removed from the list (repeatedly)

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On Wed, Oct 06, 2021 at 08:27:36AM +0300, Reco wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 05, 2021 at 04:40:41PM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote:
> > Is there anything I can do to stop it, other than simply
> > re-subscribing every time I post?
> 
> It says there plain and clear:
> 
> > > When in doubt, ... or send mail to "postmaster".
> 
> Lists' postmasters were very helpful in pointing at errors in my setup
> when I had the problems with the list in the past. Mail them, ask for
> help.

That paragraph is telling me to talk to "postmaster@wooledge.org" which
is, unfortunately, me.

> The most probable cause of your troubles - you do not have DMARC policy
> published, which means the whole Internet could send bounces to the list
> on your behalf. SPF policy that you have published is not enough.

Another thing I have to learn?!  Crap.  Well, maybe some day I'll find
the time and energy to think about it.

I still don't understand how a bounce message that was received by
the Debian mail server ("Delivered-To: lists-debian-user@bendel.debian.org")
with a "From postmaster@vps268904.ovh.net" on top of it can cause *me*
to become unsubscribed.  The only place my email address is mentioned
is at the top of the body.

Is a message sent from Alice to lists-debian-user@bendel.debian.org with
Bob's address at the top of the body considered a "bounce from Bob"?
That sounds like a huge bug in bendel.debian.org to me.

Either that, or they're not showing me enough context to understand how
this particular message from ovh.net got *me* in trouble.

I guess the only thing I can do *right now* is hope that whoever this
ovh user is, they'll fix their setup and/or *actually* unsubscribe
instead of just thinking they have unsubbed.

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You have been removed from the list (repeatedly) Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org> - 2021-10-05 22:50 +0200
  Re: You have been removed from the list (repeatedly) piorunz <piorunz@gmx.com> - 2021-10-05 23:10 +0200
  Re: You have been removed from the list (repeatedly) "Thomas Schmitt" <scdbackup@gmx.net> - 2021-10-05 23:40 +0200
  Re: You have been removed from the list (repeatedly) Cindy Sue Causey <butterflybytes@gmail.com> - 2021-10-05 23:50 +0200
  Re: You have been removed from the list (repeatedly) Andy Smith <andy@strugglers.net> - 2021-10-06 00:10 +0200
  Re: You have been removed from the list (repeatedly) Reco <recoverym4n@enotuniq.net> - 2021-10-06 07:30 +0200
    Re: You have been removed from the list (repeatedly) Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org> - 2021-10-06 13:40 +0200
      Re: You have been removed from the list (repeatedly) "Andrew M.A. Cater" <amacater@einval.com> - 2021-10-06 13:50 +0200
        Re: You have been removed from the list (repeatedly) Reco <recoverym4n@enotuniq.net> - 2021-10-06 14:10 +0200
          Re: You have been removed from the list (repeatedly) Dan Ritter <dsr@randomstring.org> - 2021-10-06 16:30 +0200
        Re: You have been removed from the list (repeatedly) Bret Busby <bret@busby.net> - 2021-10-06 15:40 +0200
          Re: You have been removed from the list (repeatedly) Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org> - 2021-10-06 15:50 +0200
            Re: You have been removed from the list (repeatedly) "Thomas Schmitt" <scdbackup@gmx.net> - 2021-10-06 19:50 +0200
            Re: You have been removed from the list (repeatedly) Dan Ritter <dsr-onetimeonlytalktome@randomstring.org> - 2021-10-08 19:30 +0200
      Re: You have been removed from the list (repeatedly) Reco <recoverym4n@enotuniq.net> - 2021-10-06 14:00 +0200

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