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Re: ubuntu/snap future

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On Fri, 09 Apr 2021 21:30:45 +0200
Linux-Fan <Ma_Sys.ma@web.de> wrote:

> Celejar writes:
> 
> > On Fri, 9 Apr 2021 20:48:01 +0300
> > Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > On Vi, 09 apr 21, 08:02:46, Celejar wrote:
> > > > What about cases where the software simply isn't in Debian at all?
> > > > Recently, I've used IntelliJ IDEA and Android Studio, and I'd like to
> > > > set up an OwnCloud server when I get a chance. These, and many other
> > > > complex / fast-changing applications aren't in Debian, but are
> > > > available in containerized app formats.
> 
> [...]
> 
> > Have the packages I'm interested in not been in unstable because
> > potential maintainers knew they couldn't make it into stable (and now
> > that there's fasttrack, they'll get into unstable), or is there some
> > other reason they can't be in unstable (and hence can't make it to
> > fasttrack either)?
> 
> I do not know it for the excact packages you mentioned but to me it seems  
> quite plausible that there are modern open source applications which cannot  
> be easily included in Debian (not even in unstable). AFAICT it boils down to  
> the fact that some of that applications' build processes do not meet  
> Debian's high quality standards (formally: Debian Policy).

For NextCloud, see this thread (there's some discussion of the
fasttrack option as well):

https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=835086

Celejar

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                Re: ubuntu/snap future Yoann LE BARS <yoann@le-bars.net> - 2021-04-09 18:20 +0200
                Re: ubuntu/snap future Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> - 2021-04-09 19:50 +0200
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