Re: ubuntu/snap future

From	"Andrew M.A. Cater" <amacater@einval.com>
Newsgroups	linux.debian.user
Subject	Re: ubuntu/snap future
Date	2021-04-03 19:00 +0200
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On Sat, Apr 03, 2021 at 07:38:53PM +0300, George Shuklin wrote:
> I'd like to stir some debates.
> 
> Ubuntu (which is 'enterprise friendly Debian with ambivalent feeling about
> free software') started to push snaps onto servers for real. It looks to me
> like they desperately want to jump away from debs into 'vendor friendly
> packaging'. Is it so?
> 

Yes, I think it might be. The problem with some packages is that they're 
impossible to keep up to date in the traditional way, seemingly, and Ubuntu
want to use snaps to make things easier to manage / quicker to update.

Lots of different ways to make a distribution: Ubuntu / MXlinux and all sorts
of others, each with their own ideas, Debian with theirs - lots of shades
of opinion dividing the pool of Linux users and Linux development talent.

Ubuntu is a commercial distribution with its own viewpoint - though when I 
first came across it (before it first released in 2005 - when it was still a
quiet discussion) it was described to me by one of the very first participants
"If we could have got away with calling it Debian for desktops, we would have
done" - so stuff has quietly changed in tha last 16 years as has the overall
profile of the distribution.

All best, 

Andy C.

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ubuntu/snap future George Shuklin <george.shuklin@gmail.com> - 2021-04-03 18:40 +0200
  Re: ubuntu/snap future "Andrew M.A. Cater" <amacater@einval.com> - 2021-04-03 19:00 +0200
  Re: ubuntu/snap future Paul Johnson <baloo@ursamundi.org> - 2021-04-06 02:00 +0200
    Re: ubuntu/snap future Peter Ehlert <peter@sdi-baja.com> - 2021-04-06 03:10 +0200
    Re: ubuntu/snap future Yoann LE BARS <yoann@le-bars.net> - 2021-04-06 11:30 +0200
      Re: ubuntu/snap future Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2021-04-06 13:50 +0200
        Re: ubuntu/snap future Celejar <celejar@gmail.com> - 2021-04-06 14:30 +0200
        ubuntu/snap future riveravaldez <riveravaldezmail@gmail.com> - 2021-04-07 05:30 +0200
          Re: ubuntu/snap future Dan Ritter <dsr@randomstring.org> - 2021-04-07 12:20 +0200
            Re: ubuntu/snap future riveravaldez <riveravaldezmail@gmail.com> - 2021-04-09 09:20 +0200
              Re: ubuntu/snap future <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2021-04-09 09:30 +0200
                Re: ubuntu/snap future riveravaldez <riveravaldezmail@gmail.com> - 2021-04-09 11:40 +0200
                Re: ubuntu/snap future <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2021-04-09 13:00 +0200
                Re: ubuntu/snap future Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2021-04-09 15:00 +0200
                Re: ubuntu/snap future <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2021-04-09 15:30 +0200
                Re: ubuntu/snap future Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> - 2021-04-09 19:50 +0200
                Re: ubuntu/snap future Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2021-04-09 20:30 +0200
                Re: ubuntu/snap future George Shuklin <george.shuklin@gmail.com> - 2021-04-10 16:10 +0200
                Re: ubuntu/snap future riveravaldez <riveravaldezmail@gmail.com> - 2021-04-29 02:20 +0200
                Re: ubuntu/snap future Yoann LE BARS <yoann@le-bars.net> - 2021-04-09 13:10 +0200
                Re: ubuntu/snap future <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2021-04-09 13:40 +0200
                Re: ubuntu/snap future Yoann LE BARS <yoann@le-bars.net> - 2021-04-09 13:50 +0200
                Re: ubuntu/snap future <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2021-04-09 14:50 +0200
                Re: ubuntu/snap future Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2021-04-09 15:10 +0200
                Re: ubuntu/snap future <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2021-04-09 15:40 +0200
                Re: ubuntu/snap future Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2021-04-09 17:10 +0200
                Re: ubuntu/snap future <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2021-04-09 19:00 +0200
                Re: ubuntu/snap future Yoann LE BARS <yoann@le-bars.net> - 2021-04-09 18:10 +0200
                Re: ubuntu/snap future Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> - 2021-04-09 19:30 +0200
                Re: ubuntu/snap future <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2021-04-09 19:30 +0200
                Re: ubuntu/snap future Celejar <celejar@gmail.com> - 2021-04-09 14:10 +0200
                Re: ubuntu/snap future <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2021-04-09 15:00 +0200
                Re: ubuntu/snap future Celejar <celejar@gmail.com> - 2021-04-09 15:30 +0200
                Re: ubuntu/snap future tomas@tuxteam.de - 2021-04-09 15:40 +0200
                Re: ubuntu/snap future The Wanderer <wanderer@fastmail.fm> - 2021-04-09 15:50 +0200
                Re: ubuntu/snap future <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2021-04-09 16:20 +0200
                Re: ubuntu/snap future Charles Curley <charlescurley@charlescurley.com> - 2021-04-09 16:20 +0200
                Re: ubuntu/snap future Celejar <celejar@gmail.com> - 2021-04-09 16:30 +0200
                Re: ubuntu/snap future Celejar <celejar@gmail.com> - 2021-04-09 16:20 +0200
                Re: ubuntu/snap future Yoann LE BARS <yoann@le-bars.net> - 2021-04-09 18:20 +0200
                Re: ubuntu/snap future Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> - 2021-04-09 19:50 +0200
                Re: ubuntu/snap future Celejar <celejar@gmail.com> - 2021-04-09 20:40 +0200
                Re: ubuntu/snap future Linux-Fan <Ma_Sys.ma@web.de> - 2021-04-09 21:40 +0200
                Re: ubuntu/snap future Celejar <celejar@gmail.com> - 2021-04-09 22:10 +0200
              Re: ubuntu/snap future Celejar <celejar@gmail.com> - 2021-04-09 14:10 +0200
        Re: ubuntu/snap future George Shuklin <george.shuklin@gmail.com> - 2021-04-10 16:10 +0200

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