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on keep providing python 2 packages

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From	Sandro Tosi <morph@debian.org>
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Subject	on keep providing python 2 packages
Date	Fri, 19 Aug 2016 09:30:03 +0200
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I got a feeling we are somehow discouraging the introduction of
python2 package in unstable (it was also discussed at the BoF).

while i can see why we dont want to introduce new python2-only
package, i feel that just providing a py3k pkg while the module is
also py2 compatible is a disservice to our users: wether we like it or
not, python 2 is the de facto interpreter for python and not having a
module available will not just make everyone switch to py3k (i already
faced it a couple of times already, where i needed a module to extend
an already existing project, and it was not there)

does anyone else agrees with this view? should we clarify that, when
available, python2 modules must be provided (along with their py3k)?

apps/scripts are fine being py3k by default, but the underlying
modules has to be provided by for py2 if compatible.

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on keep providing python 2 packages Sandro Tosi <morph@debian.org> - 2016-08-19 09:30 +0200
  Re: on keep providing python 2 packages Olivier Sallou <olivier.sallou@irisa.fr> - 2016-08-19 09:50 +0200
  Re: on keep providing python 2 packages Ondrej Novy <novy@ondrej.org> - 2016-08-19 10:10 +0200
  Re: on keep providing python 2 packages Julien Cristau <jcristau@debian.org> - 2016-08-19 11:50 +0200
  Re: on keep providing python 2 packages "W. Martin Borgert" <debacle@debian.org> - 2016-08-19 12:20 +0200
  Re: on keep providing python 2 packages Dmitry Shachnev <mitya57@debian.org> - 2016-08-19 12:50 +0200
    Re: on keep providing python 2 packages Sandro Tosi <morph@debian.org> - 2016-08-19 13:00 +0200
      Re: on keep providing python 2 packages Dmitry Shachnev <mitya57@debian.org> - 2016-08-19 19:30 +0200
        Re: on keep providing python 2 packages Sandro Tosi <morph@debian.org> - 2016-08-20 18:50 +0200
          Re: on keep providing python 2 packages Mattia Rizzolo <mattia@debian.org> - 2016-08-20 21:10 +0200
            Re: on keep providing python 2 packages Sandro Tosi <morph@debian.org> - 2016-08-20 22:30 +0200
              Re: on keep providing python 2 packages Rick Thomas <rbthomas@pobox.com> - 2016-08-21 00:40 +0200
              Re: on keep providing python 2 packages Piotr Ożarowski <piotr@debian.org> - 2016-08-21 00:40 +0200
                Re: on keep providing python 2 packages Mattia Rizzolo <mattia@debian.org> - 2016-08-21 09:50 +0200
                Re: on keep providing python 2 packages Barry Warsaw <barry@debian.org> - 2016-08-21 22:20 +0200
    Re: on keep providing python 2 packages "Elena ``of Valhalla''" <elena.valhalla@gmail.com> - 2016-08-20 13:40 +0200
  Re: on keep providing python 2 packages Barry Warsaw <barry@debian.org> - 2016-08-19 15:30 +0200

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