Path: csiph.com!eternal-september.org!feeder.eternal-september.org!aioe.org!gothmog.csi.it!bofh.it!news.nic.it!robomod From: Sandro Tosi Newsgroups: linux.debian.maint.python Subject: on keep providing python 2 packages Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2016 09:30:03 +0200 Message-ID: X-Mailbox-Line: From debian-python-request@lists.debian.org Fri Aug 19 07:20:46 2016 Old-Return-Path: X-Amavis-Spam-Status: No, score=-7.697 tagged_above=-10000 required=5.3 tests=[BAYES_00=-2, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FORGED_FROMDOMAIN=0.001, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.001, LDO_WHITELIST=-5, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Policyd-Weight: DYN_NJABL=ERR(0) NOT_IN_SBL_XBL_SPAMHAUS=-1.5 BL_NJABL=ERR(-1.5) CL_IP_EQ_HELO_IP=-2 (check from: .gmail. - helo: .mail-lf0-x232.google. - helo-domain: .google.) FROM/MX_MATCHES_HELO(DOMAIN)=-2; rate: -7 Dkim-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=jpQNSXvOGgnfXE8227ktm0GXyJihaR5b4rMKEdqXigQ=; b=us7WFG3mo+1ttR8yV0QPtGhjSZzMu3AN554oGQH+9wUEZwuz6AKCnjdHtA++f/hilH NUlg4LWyvp5lq7rBxYqgXLRczGGyel2ZiskzKHsvQo1L8yE5ZAoeClQmg7MdMdC7nQvM HLo4tMErwx8e499tWPakMTErtPtb9M2IdykGz0DIdQaiJhE3alIgklSs4WVukxqPD48r tFslASYhH7hAZ7gmZgFNk88DBIFTXZBqaKWuMKNYXjXYJx9aCnHcae4ru11x/M8lx0x8 dpI9vvsdhtNNR9DR922f8menODdL4uQJQNvOK5THW9E3vhDo6GBwVkLCUUWPe/yIqwAW BPDg== X-Google-Dkim-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:sender:from:date:message-id:subject :to; bh=jpQNSXvOGgnfXE8227ktm0GXyJihaR5b4rMKEdqXigQ=; b=TwHzyEuEK8re/+8mM0gdyqCerFTkUnvphfPB/qCmtSetTG7QcgR0q4v2rm/3x88rUw Nj5xzLTyAyj7ado3M9Xexc9X6MqTSRxSgbf6ni51jiKyKMnzrsXdjclmA3Y6M7Ln8COv AYUBSf1qJ2ciA8R3ofVMYtzwSR+KCrRZoY5QbmMowxEef9IixvdFaDvqqX02BVQswHyE x1J2i2U5RdiGZOQf9Jb1msabrgC8eTvhzTvkkBnSe3Od/hMw1xaGrqEtFaBq+iGlDhJI 0eVgruPZdZamxw1ZUn8Z/g058PjgwEtxX0V9TGfHsrSx0PfS7WdcqWE6Uk0PrWYqx02E 6mIg== X-Gm-Message-State: AEkoouuESf2MTfTfph7opAoImDdmhAT3lY/P48aiQSDabqVEbTxmk1RoyWHG6N1moSp/W/rBT4NKFw0jS8iKUw== X-Received: by 10.25.19.105 with SMTP id j102mr1352692lfi.44.1471591217347; Fri, 19 Aug 2016 00:20:17 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: robomod@news.nic.it X-Google-Sender-Auth: kryFDQzVp-gbmTJkn3jdjQ3Fvx8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/14125 List-ID: List-URL: List-Archive: https://lists.debian.org/msgid-search/CAB4XWXz5oDCwHKVzR3EcETUwA3383Bamnj4u98DEQ97VaBz1-w@mail.gmail.com Approved: robomod@news.nic.it Lines: 22 Organization: linux.* mail to news gateway X-Original-Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2016 08:19:46 +0100 X-Original-Message-ID: X-Original-Sender: sandro.tosi@gmail.com Xref: csiph.com linux.debian.maint.python:8784 I got a feeling we are somehow discouraging the introduction of python2 package in unstable (it was also discussed at the BoF). while i can see why we dont want to introduce new python2-only package, i feel that just providing a py3k pkg while the module is also py2 compatible is a disservice to our users: wether we like it or not, python 2 is the de facto interpreter for python and not having a module available will not just make everyone switch to py3k (i already faced it a couple of times already, where i needed a module to extend an already existing project, and it was not there) does anyone else agrees with this view? should we clarify that, when available, python2 modules must be provided (along with their py3k)? apps/scripts are fine being py3k by default, but the underlying modules has to be provided by for py2 if compatible. -- Sandro "morph" Tosi My website: http://sandrotosi.me/ Me at Debian: http://wiki.debian.org/SandroTosi G+: https://plus.google.com/u/0/+SandroTosi