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Re: on keep providing python 2 packages

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On Fri, Aug 19, 2016 at 11:42 AM, Dmitry Shachnev <mitya57@debian.org> wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> On Fri, Aug 19, 2016 at 08:19:46AM +0100, Sandro Tosi wrote:
>> does anyone else agrees with this view? should we clarify that, when
>> available, python2 modules must be provided (along with their py3k)?
>
> I disagree with the “must” wording.

i should have probably specified public modules

> For example, I have a module (which supports both Python 2 and 3), but
> the only user of this module is an app (which is Python 3 only).

then this should be an internal module, installed in /usr/share/<pkg>
and not importable via python -c "import <module>"

>
> What’s the point of shipping the Python 2 version of that module then?
>
> In my opinion, we should neither encourage nor discourage shipping the
> Python 2 version, and let the maintainer make the decision.

leaving the decision to the maintainer for public modules means we'll
have py3k-only packages leaving python2 without a usable module, and
if you need one then you file a bug, you wait for the maintainer to
act on it, maybe you need it in stable and you have to backport/ask
for it.

i think we have to support python2 and python3 at the best we can, as
we mandate to have py3k packages
(https://www.debian.org/doc/packaging-manuals/python-policy/ch-python3.html)
i think we should extend the same level of support to python2, until
it will be decided to drop that stack completely

-- 
Sandro "morph" Tosi
My website: http://sandrotosi.me/
Me at Debian: http://wiki.debian.org/SandroTosi
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on keep providing python 2 packages Sandro Tosi <morph@debian.org> - 2016-08-19 09:30 +0200
  Re: on keep providing python 2 packages Olivier Sallou <olivier.sallou@irisa.fr> - 2016-08-19 09:50 +0200
  Re: on keep providing python 2 packages Ondrej Novy <novy@ondrej.org> - 2016-08-19 10:10 +0200
  Re: on keep providing python 2 packages Julien Cristau <jcristau@debian.org> - 2016-08-19 11:50 +0200
  Re: on keep providing python 2 packages "W. Martin Borgert" <debacle@debian.org> - 2016-08-19 12:20 +0200
  Re: on keep providing python 2 packages Dmitry Shachnev <mitya57@debian.org> - 2016-08-19 12:50 +0200
    Re: on keep providing python 2 packages Sandro Tosi <morph@debian.org> - 2016-08-19 13:00 +0200
      Re: on keep providing python 2 packages Dmitry Shachnev <mitya57@debian.org> - 2016-08-19 19:30 +0200
        Re: on keep providing python 2 packages Sandro Tosi <morph@debian.org> - 2016-08-20 18:50 +0200
          Re: on keep providing python 2 packages Mattia Rizzolo <mattia@debian.org> - 2016-08-20 21:10 +0200
            Re: on keep providing python 2 packages Sandro Tosi <morph@debian.org> - 2016-08-20 22:30 +0200
              Re: on keep providing python 2 packages Rick Thomas <rbthomas@pobox.com> - 2016-08-21 00:40 +0200
              Re: on keep providing python 2 packages Piotr Ożarowski <piotr@debian.org> - 2016-08-21 00:40 +0200
                Re: on keep providing python 2 packages Mattia Rizzolo <mattia@debian.org> - 2016-08-21 09:50 +0200
                Re: on keep providing python 2 packages Barry Warsaw <barry@debian.org> - 2016-08-21 22:20 +0200
    Re: on keep providing python 2 packages "Elena ``of Valhalla''" <elena.valhalla@gmail.com> - 2016-08-20 13:40 +0200
  Re: on keep providing python 2 packages Barry Warsaw <barry@debian.org> - 2016-08-19 15:30 +0200

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